Dark Realm Season

[echo anchor]

Commanders!

The Dark Realm Season is live! Please leave all your feedback relating to the following here:

• Patch Notes
• Season Info

[woeful leaf]

I want to congratulate the developers on the beginning of the new season and the successful nerf of light tanks and anti-tank vehicles that played by camouflage

It's a complete failure, you're the best

Now the relevance of such machines is much less and more players will go to other games I hope you will realise it someday

[sharp condor]

Agreed !!! Cold War is unplayable for me now, die Guns are soo inaccurate now, all tanks are permanently open now...

My fear came true...puuuuh

[silver turtle]

Skill for rocket boost tanks is not here the one that said 1 most rocket boost and higher boost speed

[echo anchor]

Delayed

[cloud remnant]

Traction system is now additional grousers and it does not give you a 10% inscreased speed anymore. Imo that should have been removed and reimbursed. It is not the same equipment anymore nor is it a piece that combines the old piece with another piece. Now we need to sell them all, get 50% less for and spent more credit for something else.

[woeful leaf]

5 games in the new season each ended with a score of neither 14:0 or 0:14 the developers who are responsible for this must quit, 3 times we are promised equal to Kinga distribution of teams, but there is no result

[vestal nest]

I found a bug lol, if u put like the additional grousers on ur tank, it will make ur stats worse xddd

[frigid lily]

It's known

KB already sent a ticket for it

[median wasp]

What an absolute clown show this lot are!

More proof that they never test any updates especially one so game changing 🤦‍♂️

[woeful leaf]

Played for 2 hours and deleted the game.

You made all the tanks visible, but in the Cold War, a lively look

You have a complete misunderstanding of what your game was about

Downloaded call of duty Wargaming goodbye

[frigid lily]

See you tomorrow

[atomic verge]

Thank you, dear developers, for destroying half of the tanks in the hangar. I won't spend a penny on this pyramid scheme. A quiet engine is vital for many tanks. Thanks for removing it, now these tanks are junk. And that was my money. “We are not weakening premium tanks”... we are weakening the entire game mechanics to destroy an entire class of tanks. First we weakened guided missiles (thanks to whiners), now camouflage (thanks to whiners). Meanwhile, artillery remains quite playable to this day, despite being the MOST TOXIC class of vehicles in the game. What's next? Reducing shell damage? Penetration? To make it easier for whiners to play. Thanks, but I don't want to play this anymore. Now I have a reason to sell my XBOX, which I kept only for the tanks.

[candid spire]

Komarin is definitely not a tier ten map

[vestal nest]

There is no reason to play lights and tds in cold war, 0 camouflage. Absolut heavy meta now. :)

[grave falcon]

Not to mention some of the reload times are really bad in cw with it's pacing...

[leaden inlet]

gg wargaming for this failed update you can't make such mistakes to take away our pleasure of playing this game. sorry but this is a mockery of all console players.

[fair trail]

Removed from Era 1:
Himmelsdorf = I agree.
Siegfried Line = why?
Swamp = why?
Fjord = why?
Severogorsk = why?
Berlin = why?
Sunset Coast = why?
Mountain Pass = why?

Removed from Era 2:
Severogorsk = I agree 50%.
Sunset Coast = I agree.
Mountain Pass = I agree 50%.

Removed from Era 3:
Kaunas = why?
Sunset Coast = I agree.
Mountain Pass = I agree.

PS: You should remove Province from ERA 1, tier 9 and tier 10 as well btw

[wooden patio]

Complete & utter Dog 💩 this Downgrade of a decision is.

[cyan wind]

Unsurprisingly any tank that relies on stealth has been utterly ruined.

[livid bridge]

This game is so far in the dust bin that i would rather play crossy road

[marble hamlet]

Too many bugs, you call this "quality life" ?

[wooden patio]

It's Quality of Death.

[mortal viper]

Hello, everyone.
I'm a player who's been playing this great game for over 12 years.
I have over 386 crew members.
So, with the new update, all those crew members have lost their corresponding abilities based on the tank being used.
Now I have to go through them one by one, wasting my time like many players in the same situation.

I find the solutions Wargaming gives after submitting a ticket shameful, as it seems like a waste of my time.

Don't you think that with things like this, losing players is normal?

Greetings

[limpid umbra]

Crap season pass rewards!.

[vocal abyss]

Good afternoon! Are you planning to restore crew perks and equipment to the way they were before October 7, 2025? With the game changes, you've essentially diminished the role of highly skilled crews with perks. Personally, I spent many years ensuring that all my medium tanks had every perk slot on the crews. Now, crews are useless, since you've moved most of the important perks to equipment. In light of this, I'd like to know if you plan to roll back these unfortunate changes?

I understand that you were motivated by the desire to lengthen battles by removing the crew reload perk, but by transferring most of the useful functions to tank equipment, you essentially devalued my years of crew development. I bought premium tanks for this purpose, so I could develop the crews of each nation separately. This is no longer relevant, since the crew is no longer important; everyone has a light bulb. This really hurts me.

I appreciate these changes to the game. I see that you're trying to support and develop the game by adding new events and tanks, but what's been done with perks and equipment makes me reluctant to spend time collecting perks for my crews and equipment for tanks and the game as a whole.

Sincerely, Maxim, save the game.

[wooden patio]

After this failure of an "update" for the ridiculous excuse of "quality of life" because they can't keep players for the obvious long past reasons I'm not going to spend my money anymore on this. I think this might be my 1st time that I don't buy Ultimate pass like I always do. I will wait & see what happens.

[limpid umbra]

Ultimate pass the tank is also crap.

[livid bridge]

Idk maaan

Accuracy is gone, reload is long, games dead

[limpid umbra]

Yes agree.

[mystic echo]

Good update so far i enjoy not having one best setup but having to choose how i want to play the tank. Get rid of the bugs and get the description of stuff working and then it will be good

[chrome parrot]

I think the reworks are good with most of them being positive, but I would like to address an issue that old wot used to have (basically what we have right now with some differences)

Since 6.0 (thats the update that changed the game if I remember correctly) the devs have been constantly reworking tanks to work with the new changes, we also didn't have tier 10 lights back then only tier 8 lights. Now we have tier ten lights, as well as so many other tanks have had vision range and camo reworks. This has created a issue with lights being almost irrelevant now. Before you thumbs down this message let me explain the reasoning.

Insane vision on tier ten lights worked great with the old system because tanks were borderline invisible (especially taran and grille). With the changes these tanks (tds and meds especially) have to sit so far back from the battle in order to stay unspotted. This creates a scenario where light tanks drive around and basically get shot at by the enemy team and the friendly team can't push up far enough to support them.

Originally I thought light tanks would thrive but this is not the case.

Another tank type that has been completely obliterated by the changes is medium armor and speed TDs. Tanks like the FV215B 183 (this is the only one I have tested so far). The same positions I used before the update to snipe I can no longer use because I cant get to them, Even with advanced concealment and low noise exhaust. Now I am forced to sit so far back that I will not be able to get damage and have a high probability to miss even if I do see something because of all the accuracy perks being removed. This forces these tanks to brawl. We all know how great the FV215B 183 armor is. TLDR version, its terrible. Add on a 25.8s reload and these tanks might as well be pre balance waffle. Once you fire, everyone rushes and kills you to get you out of the fight.

I will say that heavies, super heavies and armored TDs feel great!

There is a couple of ways I think we could fix most of the issues with the least amount of work.

A Increase render range so TDs can still support light tanks. This would fix the light tank issue as well as the issues with the medium armor and mobility TDs.

A Decrease in render range would do the same thing but I think this is the wrong choice.

Hot take: WW2 with True Vision.

An Emergency Nerf to all vision ranges (less or none to light tanks).

An Emergency Buff on all Concealment.

Personally I think all of these create issues of their own except one of them.

That one being:

• Increased Render

You could make it to where the entire map is in render range. This would be slightly different than true vision. You would still remain invisible until spotted, but once you are spotted you can be hit as if it were true vision. Keep in mind that almost all WW2 tanks can not shoot across the map because most are limited to how far their round will travel before despawning.

Personally I think if the entire map was in render, 99% of the issue with this update would be fixed, and lights/mediums/medium armor TDs would be viable tanks to run again.

[cyan wind]

These changes do make TV in WW2 a much more palatable option.

[vagrant dust]

Can we get an option to wipe out all commander skills and get vouchers for all the tank equipment currently installed? This way we can re-spec our commanders and tanks at our own pace instead of racing to do 900 commanders and 850 tanks in 28 days. The time this is taking leaves no room to actual play the game. This is the first time in years I am questioning if I should buy the season pass as I am not sure I will finish it with all the re-specking I need to do.

[viral mica]

i happy lights and tds have to use more brain cells

[distant mica]

Tier 10 lights came in LONG before 6.0, they came in 2017 while 6.0 was end of 2020. And the max possible view range is basically if not the exact same now as it was then, thanks to the return of binocs.

[distant mica]

The last major crew changes this is almost exactly what we did, and the widespread feedback was basically "i have to redo EVERY commander now, don't ever do this again, if you change commander skills let us keep what isn't change and change only what we need"... so we did that, and now people are asking for what we did last time and got told to never do again 🤷‍♂️

[chrome parrot]

I just don't remember the order of events correctly but my point still stands about potential next steps forward. I do like the update, and big deal about the commanders, yes it will take time to reselect perks for the crews but it is what it is. Something had to be done and I do believe the game is in a better state now. I'm enjoying watching heavies miss and not hit every single shot

[vagrant dust]

Loose/Loose situation. I understand and thank you for your reply. I was there for 6.0 As I was suggesting, maybe the option for the end-user to trigger the wipe instead of forcing it. Maybe next time. Thanks again

[trail flicker]

I do like the fact that the camo, accuracy and dpm had been reduced, but skills and equipment I still use about 75% same. Only couple slots varying. So I'm basically copy and paste over 100's of commanders. Jack of all trades feels useless due to lack of number of skills. Pre 6.0 it was viable due to amount of skills. But now?Idk. Equipment feels like way too many options for camo. Not needed. In essence update feels good just get rid of sbmm, because of that I cannot play weak tanks, knowing that I'm letting my team down.

[gilded wyvern]

Y'all really need to start putting information about changes IN GAME. Give us surveys to take for feedback IN GAME. Don't take us out of the game by using the god awful console browser. The average player is not on Twitch or Discord. And please stop closing threads here so quickly. I'd love to leave my final feedback on the previous 2 live tests, however the threads get closed first thing the next day. I'm not able to leave full and coherent feedback late Monday nights. Please leave those open for a couple days at least.

[distant mica]

Both previous tests had emails with surveys sent to all people who played during them. That will be combined with feedback from all social spaces.

[mystic echo]

i got the +/-1 survey but not email or ingame for Autoaim sadly i got a link from another player.

[grave falcon]

I never received emails.

Correction there's one about metal fest and that's it inside the spam box.

[buoyant sonnet]

It's any chance you will add to game option to turn off this horrible red borderlines.

[sick urchin]

Yag buffs are the most recent attempt at lip service. Total nothing buff. 1° arc was wanted by everybody. 2° even. Or/and +100mm UFP and super structure

Nothing else buffs it.

[delicate reef]

lyes

[tall fossil]

Id say the commander skills should have stayed untouched

[distant mica]

• @mystic echo

so i checked into it and my mistake, it wasn't an email, it was an in-game pop up. So it's possible you skipped it without realising 😅

[grave falcon]

Not to be rude or anything, is there any way emails can be sent more about changes and on a side note may we get a rework of the circles around our tanks that are accurate ?.

[distant mica]

not rude at all, but as these pop up's hopefully show there is an intent to get more and more feedback and from all/as many players as possible 🙂 So i'm sure the people responsible will continue to try and improve the reach as they go 🙂

By circles around your tank, i assume you mean the dynamic camo thing. I've seen that coming up a lot and i think it's something we need to surface the info for more/better. But TLDR it is working as intended, and as it always has (since 2016). It's just the reduction in camo + binocs coming back at the same time has made it feel a bit more alien to some. If you compare to old vids (it was added end of 2016) it looks the same and works the same since then

[grave falcon]

I much preferred the circles prior to update because now I feel like it's lying to me more as I asked Max but he said I need videos I guess and post in bug reports.

[distant mica]

So the circles are the same, it's just the reality has changed because they are Dynamic.

To potentially re-explain (apologies if you already know/understand this), but basically it shows the worst case scenario. So it takes your camo and then looks at the highest possible view range on the other team and then displays that as the circle. So what has happened is binocs adds a big chunk to view range, so a single person running binocs + food means their potential view range is much larger than before the patch. That means your circle will now be bigger. THEN because of the camo reduction, you can't reduce the circle as much so it's bigger again.

Now, this doesn't factor in things like foliage. So if you are behind a bush/knocked down tree and so on, that circle is not accurate to that, it's just a worst case "2 people out in the open" kinda situation. It was always like this, but likely the situational aspect of binocs + not many people running it means the gap between where you will likely get spotted and what that "worst case" is has become larger with this patch, which means you notice it far more.

[mystic echo]

Ok ty for looking up 🖖
If possible u guys could do both ? We get much stuff there and an email would be better to keep track

[distant mica]

i believe @thorn monolith (rare occasion i get to ping him so taking it) is already taking that into account as feedback for any future surveys and what not 🙂

[grave falcon]

Yha this makes sense but before the update I was using it as I have this much camo to work with, while having a 25% of getting spotted outside the circle right now I'm having the issues of never knowing when I'll be fully spotted now. That's my issue with the circle at least I had an almost accurate reading of it .

[distant mica]

it still works as a "i 100% know i can't be if" situation, but beyond that having more game knowledge will be more useful than before IMHO.

[thorn monolith]

That is correct

[clear sphinx]

Great update! Finally people must learn how to play, like before 6.0.

[pine knot]

New update has made TD’s the weakest class as they have similar concealment to medium tanks yet don’t have the armour, mobility or even a turret in some cases, yet light tanks have been buffed as they now have the most concealment and spotting among the classes. Great update for heavy and light tank players mediums have stayed the same and tank destroyers have been rendered almost useless as they are just a hard hitting medium with no mobility or turret for some specific tank destroyers

[marble hamlet]

Seems all consealment skill and equipment not working correctly. Because in the game the data shows your consealment is 300m but in the battle, you found that is not correct. Is it surpposed to be, or it is acturally a bug? Very confused.

[fervent lantern]

Wow matchmaking is broken. Played 8 matches. 4400 WN8. 2 wins. WOT is really focused on leveling all win rates by placing a player with a high win rate with 14 potatoes. Make matchmaking random!

25k battles. WOT lost a lot of players after making significant changes in 6.0. For the past few years players have learned how to play 6.0 and for a portion of the player base post 6.0 is all they have experienced. Now WOT does another significant change which I think is for the worse. Players want three things. +1/-1 matchmaking, no more than 1 arty per team, and random matchmaking which is not skill or win rates based. WOT instead chose to mess with the mechanics, skills, matchmaking, and equipment. After playing 25k battles this is the least playable and fun tanks has been. It has decreased my playtime and money I am spending.

[fervent lantern]

WOT wants the matches to be close slugfests. Minimal tactics and eliminate the use of cover and concealment.

[cloud remnant]

@clear sphinx Agreed. The proof is there just below your post😂

[scenic crater]

It's actually working as intended. It takes your camo against the highest view range on the enemy team (which if someone has binos will be rather high) so the camo circle is showing your worst case scenario detection range.

[livid bridge]

Why is bro sharing the same opinion in multiple threads

[fervent lantern]

Matchmaking is officially fixed to decrease people’s winrates down to 50% . worst updates. Zero replay value.

[fervent lantern]

Players with a high win rate can now only win if they sweat and completely carry the team each time. I play this game for fun. If I have to sweat every game then the fun is eliminated.

[delicate reef]

wrong channel bro

[cloud remnant]

@fervent lantern Wrong thread, but you are right about MM. SBMM is absolutely dog💩

[delicate reef]

that we can agree to

[verbal nebula]

The new updates in C.W basically ..so far anyway, I understand yhe general reset down with dpm , it slows the pace which i like , but it definitely seams the shooting has become a bit vanilla, im sure they're going to continue to tweak it

[frigid lily]

I hope so too

And I mean for many tanks they're gonna have to

[fervent lantern]

Matchmaker is still in full DEI mode today. The goal is to make everyone’s winrate 50%. If you have a high skill level WOT will place you on a potato team each time. Played a tier 10 match where 8 of my teammates got either zero damage of less than 1000. Even worse is when the highest skill level on your team are tier 8’s and the opposing team has their highest skill level at tier 10’s. DEI is in full effect.

WOT is solely focused on having everyone at a 50% winrate.

Make match making completely random when it comes to skill level/winrate. This is the only fair way to play. Matches where people win because of their level of play rather than WOT purposefully staking one team over another. If every game has to be a sweat fest in order to win than the enjoyment and replay value decreases.

[mystic echo]

The WT employee strikes again 😂

[scenic crater]

the copy paste fiend is back

[fervent lantern]

Zero constructive criticism or counter argument.

[scenic crater]

because you are not on the topic of the thread

[fervent lantern]

WOT is placing players with a high winrate or high skill level at a disadvantage every match in order to level everyone winrate to 50%

[fervent lantern]

This is 100% on topic as it is part of the gameplay this season. To make everyone winrate 50%.

[scenic crater]

again not the topic of this thread. This is about the Dark Realm Season. You are talking about mm introduced last season

[fervent lantern]

It is on topic as I just stated and you provide zero counter argument.

[fervent lantern]

Matchmaking this season and last season has focused on leveling all winrates to 50%. Now high skill/winrate players are placed at a disadvantage every match in order to level win rates at 50%! DEI in action.

My goal this week is to spend zero money on the game. I usually spend money each week but now I am a unsatisfied customer.

[tawdry fern]

I don’t feel like these replies to people are very professional. I had been considering coming back if the updates were rolled back, not sure I will if your reaction is to dismiss people’s issues with snarky replies. Some of us weren’t here for the reset to 6.0, but you probably didn’t think that far before deciding to jump on people providing feedback YOU GUYS ASKED FOR. Have the day you deserve.

[distant mica]

Posts comment about listening to feedback then immediately leaves... ggwp

[lean radish]

And the cost of equipments to add or to change ! And MM still not fixed since ... the beginning ! And half of tanks no more playable with so much handicap (arty, long-time reloading, low accuracy). 6.0 is back ! Total regression.

MM still not fixed, all best players on one side (Xbox privilege ?), series of victories or defeats in a row, 80% of games' results are predictable by checking teams compositions.

[late apex]

I thought there were supposed to be to be feedback threads for the tanks that received changes. Where are the threads for the 3 tanks that were buffed, the change to the crew death on autocannons, etc.? What about the other tank changes for tanks in tier 8, 9, 10?

[late apex]

Komarin is just a bad Swamp.

[late apex]

Not sure why you all thought it was better to move the counter for how many emblems, inscriptions etc, but please put it back. You have the silver listed below and it makes more sense to see it listed by there so we can judge quickly how many we have. It makes no sense to move it to the top right.

[livid bridge]

Jeezums this game is unplayable

[verbal nebula]

Its definitely a change , for me so far anyway I can't really determine if I like ut better. Definitely a great improvement with the standard equipment and standard 6th sense , this was a smart move and it allows for more freedom in picking equipment set up. I found my Russian tanks are affected more in regards to gun effectiveness, the west tanks are still decent in shooting. Im sure its just going to he an adjustment period to get accustomed to the shooting, still fun game basically the only game I still play 😆, although I mentioned b4 , having a few storage slots extra per tank , so u can say purchase 6 pcs of kit , and swap yr set up if u want to without being penalized

[plain zinc]

I didn't find the discussion about that, but.
REMOVE KOMARIN FROM THE GAME, ITS UNPLAYABLE

[late apex]

Komarin is pretty much unbalanced garbage. The strong hill on the east that was necessary for the south spawn is pretty much nerfed into uselessness—removed cover and the north spawn has too much cover too much access too easy to spot up the south with snipers hiding behind.

[worn sparrow]

Remove Komarin from tier 9-10. It should only see tier 8 at max.

[late apex]

I do not think it should see tier 8. More like 5 and below.

[native vault]

Turn that off!!!!

[native vault]

.

[last oracle]

It's not good on the eyes and just a unnecessary gimmick imo.
Seriously how many people asked for the red wall of death to be added to the maps?
All other changes are 100% ok imo.

[native vault]

How to tell them about it?

And yes, my eyes hurts, i can't play to long with this

When HP low it's red too, I hate it too

[frigid lily]

In the future they need to let us change the opacity/intensity of it in display settings
Personally it's not an issue, but I do 100% understand where you're coming from with this

[plain zinc]

And why +1/-1 was remowed?
There was no problem with queue time, and game feels much better
What the reason of removing?

[worn sparrow]

I would love an ingame toggle for the red map boarder.

[fervent lantern]

Only 3 improvements were needed to make the game more enjoyable and bring more value to the customer. +1/-1 matchmaking, only 1 arty per team, and random matchmaking that is not skill based. I welcome anyone to debate me on these 3 improvements.

Wargaming instead chose to punish players with high winrates. Force customers to spend millions in credits to re-equip existing tanks in your garage. Reduce the amount of skills available for commander customization. Nerf or eliminate all accuracy, camo, and reload skills and equipment.

In my opinion this was a terrible update and has effectively reduced my playing time as the game is less enjoyable. Since then I have purchased nothing except the season pass and will continue to do so unless the improvements listed above are implemented.

Will I even purchase the season pass next season? TBD.

[plain zinc]

Its better to completely remove arty from the game. Idk who thinks that this is fair when you on HT went to position, got hit -500hp from Arty and -600 from another arty. Is that skill based game ? Don't think so

In what other video game is it considered normal for an enemy to be able to damage you while you can't do anything to them?
Only in WoT

[worn sparrow]

WT, WoWS, WoWSL, most FPS, plenty of other games.

[plain zinc]

Agreed, +1/-1 completely unplayable,

[plain zinc]

In FPS you able to shoot enemy if he shoot you

[worn sparrow]

Shoot through walls. Ballistic shields. Vehicles.

[plain zinc]

Dk what you talking about
You can handle vehicles, game usually gave you instruments to do that , in bf for example .
Same with shields, in 90% games shield ≠ invulnerability

[worn sparrow]

And yoy cant deal dmg to them without specific tools.
The same thing happens here.

Higher pen ammo, or HE.

[plain zinc]

You can't do anything to artillery untill most of enemy team dies, but artillery can damage you from the very beginning of the match

[worn sparrow]

You literally can. Indirect fire has been a thing in CoD and BF for decades at this point.

[plain zinc]

The only thing she does is ruin gaming experience of other players.

[plain zinc]

This topic is about WoT

Tell me, how you'll handle with arty when you on your HT?

[worn sparrow]

You are the one who brought up other games mate. I was just replying to you saying that other games have plenty of mechanics that allow one to attack from a safe position without then enemy being able to fight back.

It isnt unique to WoT.

[verbal nebula]

For anyone that enjoys co op , I basically only play that now , the games are alot more enjoyable when its 7 or less humans , maybe capping at 7 or less would make for better games overall , I dont bother playing if 12 humans are on board because its not enjoyable its a race for shooting that lasts 45 seconds, vs the many great games u get when theirs 5 human players , anyway just my opinion .

@plain zinc the idea is to have semblance of reality over comfort and fairness, every vehicle has strengths and weaknesses, i agree sometimes its frustrating but if it was all just equal then types of vehicles wouldn't really matter ?

[foggy prairie]

Man, playing light tanks and TD's in CW just isn't enjoyable anymore. A lot of tanks that didn't need nerfs needlessly got caught up in the commander skill rework. Games are longer for all the wrong reasons now.

[grave falcon]

Still having matches decided in first three mins and ending in 5 mins

[fervent lantern]

World of Tanks has completely lost touch with its stakeholders. Was any input asked from the community? People like +1-1 , but WOT said no. People dislike arty yet we constantly have matches with 2 on each team. Matchmaking needs to be random and not skill based, yet WOT took the DEI approach where high winrate players are “taxed” by having to sweat every battle to win and the taxes are then transferred over to the low winrate community. Garbage product.

I will continue my boycott of spending money on the game. Last thing I purchased was the season pass. Usually I purchase chests each week. Showing good discipline by not purchasing chests! Feels good.

[worn sparrow]

Lmao. DEI.
Its ogre. WoT has gone woke.

[tardy jetty]

Need WoT to add the 3D anime cat girl commanders

[verbal nebula]

The Russian tanks have just become poor 640 being worse, no accuracy, long reload for a standard damage shell , and its catching on fire easily, not sure what's good about it anymore? I find u basically have to use premium tanks , west guns still good but random aswell, i understood the idea of reducing lethality to add some more randomness but as the other guy mentioned some unnecessary nerfs to tanks that weren't o. p. To start with

[plain zinc]

Wdym " russian tanks"?
Ussr?

Soviet tanks were outdated in their characteristics, it's true

[plain zinc]

1. Game is not trying to be realistic anymore. We already have toy t10 tanks in game
2. Artillery is unfair. 2 arty can easily destroy enemy maus OR force him to stay behind the building all match, which is worse , but maus can do nothing to artillery

[tall fossil]

Reload doesn’t matter since every reload is worse now

[frigid lily]

He means Russian as in tanks made in Russia proper
But it also extends to the whole USSR/eastern alliance stuff
They really did get the stick when the changes came

[verbal nebula]

Lol all valid points guys , thanks for clearing that up yes the Eastern alliance side , I understand its all relative with load times the catch is tho with them already having less accuracy, adding the nerf on top of the slower reload , u get those bounces thrown in the mix and yr not putting up the best dpm , again I only play co op now so my opinion is not that relevant to the real games , I stopped that a while back ,

[distant mica]

One man army would like to have a word with you 😅

[hearty sedge]

Am taking a break, first time since the infamous 'Mordor garage' update. Stealth reliant TDs and lights get spotted too easily making them redundant. Was playing regularly then asked myself am I enjoying the game anymore and since the changes I have to say no. May dip in but for now... Nah.

[mortal viper]

Hello Tankers

I've been playing this game for many years, and with the latest update, I simply quit after 12 years of playing.
I'm quite disappointed with the changes to the game.
If something's going well, why bother? But hey, Wargaming, as always, is about what the players want, since the only thing is making money.
What do you think?
Greetings

[distant mica]

The game is now much more similar to how it was 5-6 years ago and since the 6.0 changes there has been a broad and near constant complaints about aspects of the game that were now changed, and not a single change provided any form of additional or increased monetisation. So the changes were driven by community feedback and request, and were public and asked for feedback for months.

If there is something more specific you have issues with please share them and let us know what and why it is 🙂

[mortal viper]

I've been a WoT player for many years because I loved the game and its mechanics.
But since the last update, the game hasn't been the same, and it doesn't seem fair to me that for the two hours I have to play, I have to waste my time assigning more than 386 crew members and their corresponding abilities to each tank.
I've invested more than enough hours without having to waste any more with the huge update everyone's complaining about.

Thanks

[mortal viper]

The truth is that with the new update, people are complaining very little because not even 90% of the people who have been playing this game for years have liked it.

[late apex]

Need in game polling

[opaque lantern]

They didnt give away Death Stalker for free 5 years ago

[distant mica]

As a PS player you may have been playing since release in 2015, and the game changed quite a lot with the changes in late 2020 and it was a common complaint from people like yourself (veteran players) and also newer players about aspects of the game that can be associated with the changes in 2020. As part of the QoL focus a number of changes are taking place to address that as well as other player raised issues. This is not a one and done thing, we will continue to make changes based on feedback and data to improve the experience of players - veteran and newer alike.

In terms of the commanders and equipment, this aspect is really no different than any other time. Anyone who starts the game has to train commanders, learn the builds, earn silver to buy equipment and so on. Obviously doing part of this again for veteran players can be frustrating (some are finding it a lot of fun), and that is why commander respec was made free and equipment was discounted. In previous changes it was complained that we wiped all commanders/equipment (with refunds) and that FORCED people to have to respec, redo, etc. So taking that into account, this time we only refunded things that were removed, and added in place combined perks - this way if you were happy with the existing build you had to do either nothing or fill in the extra slot or 2. This system is obviously still not perfect and was a frustrating experience for some, and for any future changes we'll look to improve that experience even more, but we did the best we could with the systems available to us and based of the feedback from previous similar situations.

[distant mica]

the 2 most recent tests had "press to dismiss" pop ups with links to surveys for anyone who played during that time 🙂 and it's likely a process that will be repeated

[mortal viper]

Hi, it's very frustrating having to change up to 5 skills per crew member.
But for me, it's not fun going through them one by one when everything was already configured according to my years of playing.
Okay, I'll wait to play again when all the skills are set up so I don't waste any more of my time. As you can understand, at 46 years old, all I want is to play, not fix that messy update.

[late apex]

Those were appreciated—particularly the space to write in as s/t the questions don’t always configure to a players thoughts.

It would be nice to hear a summation of them on stream with percents, common comments both ways and even left field thoughts.

[fervent lantern]

The last two months have been the least fun that I have experienced in the game. Do the developers even play the game or do they just ignore the fact that players want to+1-1 matchmaking, no more than one artillery per team, and zero skill based matchmaking. The value proposition and replay value of this game is minimal.

I typically averaged 651 games a month over the last 90 days. The last 30 it decreased to 430 quickly decreasing as this past week I have played around 60. Garbage game.

[fervent lantern]

I truly believe that WOT hired consultants to revive the game but the consultants have never actually played the game.

What is keeping +1-1 from happening?

What is keeping random matchmaking that is not skill based from happening?

Why has arty not been reduced to 1 max per team?

Terrible updates

[fervent lantern]

It would be great to know how many WW2 matches have been played each week since implementing changes two months ago. Has it increased or decreased?

I would assume multiple WOT personnel were probably terminated after implementing these unpopular changes.

[late apex]

You’re in the Dark Realm feedback thread—a season that just started last week. 🫠

[distant mica]

Changes went live October 7th, and nearly every possible player metric has improved since. So i guess according to your logic we've had to hire some more people 😅

[fervent lantern]

What player metrics have improved? Be specific. Or have player metrics received a temporary boost due to the Halloween event?

[fervent lantern]

Any time an answer is general in response it means there is a hidden truth that does not want to be revealed.

[native vault]

Do you wanna know what the best way for game and others? Just add another WoT console, not WoT Console MA, before 6.0., that's the best way for everyone. Add another "World of Tanks Console " before 6.0. update. You can do whatever you want with "WoT console MA" and don't touch "WoT console" before 6.0. update.

[distant mica]

upvoting your own posts doesn't really do much 😅 just a heads up.

In short, i'm not going to list them all, as i said it's basically every single possible one. But i imagine the ones most would care about are Active Users (Daily and Weekly, Monthly is not possible yet), Concurrent Users (Average and Peak) but there is also a ton of others that have increased/improved. TLDR, in terms of voting with their time, players have so far mostly voted they like this update.

But of course that doesn't mean it's perfect, and we'll be using all the feedback to look to make things even better for those who like it and hopefully "fix" or "improve" things those who don't 🙂

[distant mica]

Given how much people think the "splitting the playerbase" of adding CW and Co-op did, i'm not sure that adding what is essentially another split would be popular or that good an idea. Feels like something that'd be better off as a mode or 1 off thing

[mortal viper]

Hello, good tachists!

I find it shameful that after we play a game as a hobby, when we put it on, it's just to play.

They're giving us an update to make us work harder by giving more skills to many crew members and investing more money in equipment because some players don't have that money or time.

I have to stop playing and literally delete a game I loved because of the new update, since it doesn't seem fair to me to add more than 5 skills to more than 386 crew members.

Thanks for messing up the game a little more each time

[mortal viper]

Well, the more I read, the more negative they are.

[distant mica]

According to this argument that an extra equipment slot is anti-player and making people invest more money, then adding a new tech tree line is the exact same? Because that adds another 4 (previously 3) slots per tank.
Also not sure what you mean by the skills thing. Every commander still has 9 slots, and anyone playing the game can unlock all 9 and put skills in it. That hasn't changed in the slightest, it's just a skill most players would take is now inbuilt and some of the choices changed. The options are the same to everyone, and the same as they were before.

[mortal viper]

A commander has 9 skills, and I have over 300, and in many of them, 5 have been lost for each one.

Calculate how much time I have to invest in updating them for each tank.

I've invested over 6,000 hours, and it seems like it's just what I needed.

I think it's quite indefensible that an adult has to waste more time.

The well-done update isn't here, and not everyone will like it, but there are more negatives than positives. Another thing is, you don't want to see it

[mystic echo]

dude assigning is a commander takes 20 seconds people who have spent 6000 hours in a game have the time to spend 2h to do their commanders besides no one is telling you to do them all at once do like 10-15 which u mostly play and the other whenever you want also do you never try out new stuff ? Now is the time for that

[mortal viper]

No, sorry.
I'm not going to repeat a job I've done with my 6,000 hours.
I already had all the skills set up for the car I was playing.
So I'll wait for them to set up on their own, which I doubt they will.
Again, I don't know where you're seeing players happy with the update, since all I see are complaints.
Regards

[mystic echo]

will be difficult when those skills no longer exist but well the earth will continue to spin 🤷.

[mortal viper]

If the earth kept turning and there were fewer players, WoT would have thanks to those interns with great ideas, hahaha

[mystic echo]

people who leave because they are to lazy to spend 20 sec for a re spec of a commander wont be many and they wont be missed. I

[mortal viper]

Busy people in general
Don't waste time on things they've already worked on.
Because it's a waste of time.
If I were a kid, I wouldn't mind, but when I play a game, it's to play, not to fix crappy updates.

Now that I have more free time due to crappy updates
I'm here to remind you of them

They're as bad as Windows' updates, so they invented a service pack to fix the security flaws.

[mystic echo]

busy people dont spend 6k hours in an online game.
on every hobby you waste time on stuff you already did on driving its maintenance on gardening is keeping the plants alive, on online Gaming its adjusting to the new updates metas etc.
People like you describe them have no time to play at all jesus i find it funny how you try to make the casual gamer out to be working 24/7
If you would invest the time you spent here complaining about it you would already be finished.

[mortal viper]

Hahaha, you don't take criticism very well.
Well, from what your colleague told me, you're fed up with it, so get used to it. You get paid for it.
Sugerencias

[scenic crater]

How is WG even supposed to go about automatically replacing skills that have been deleted or migrated to the equipment slot? I much prefer that we got given an open slot for the effected skills because it saves the few seconds of a full respec and it allows me to choose any skill I want in that slot instead of being stuck with something totally different from what was in that slot without my input.

[mystic echo]

you did not critise me you did critise WG.
I have 0 connections to them so i dont know what you are trying to say i am just a player
I showed you how you are wrong and you are getting defensive now because you have no arguments

[mortal viper]

You're the one on the defensive.
And there are plenty of arguments based on the complaints of a ton of players.
Besides, if you're not involved with WoT, who's giving you a leg up on this? 😂😂😂

[mortal viper]

Die Kerze bei dieser Beerdigung ist ein spanischer Ausdruck.

[mystic echo]

Dude most people are happy with it sure there is some stuff which could be better but overall feedback is positive
you always have those who moan about any change but those are the clear minority and in this not even 5% are complaining about the stuff u did.
Ernsthaft wer regt sich darüber auf schnell 5 skills auf nen Kommandanten zu klatschen dafür lohnt sich der Discord post nicht

[mortal viper]

From what Spon says, what you say is positive isn't true.
Since he says in a message that he's receiving a lot of complaints from people, so you better inform yourself.

[mystic echo]

they guy who upvote his own post is back welcome @fervent lantern and for you just scroll up @mortal viper

[fervent lantern]

Always upvote a good post.

+1-1 matchmaking. 1 arty per team max. Random matchmaking that is not skill based were the only improvements needed for the game. Period.

I have reduced my playtime by about 75% since these unnecessary updates occurred. Have not purchased any chests in a few weeks and will continue not purchasing. The game is significantly less enjoyable to me.

If I had not enjoyed this game for 25k battles I would not be posting. This was my daily go to game.

[worn sparrow]

Its like this, skills were removed, and now there is more skills that are available to cover for a tanks weak spots, or change its playstyle.

[worn sparrow]

They cannot replace skills that were removed or made into equipment.
Instead of giving you random skills, they opted to let you add new skills to the commander.

[fervent lantern]

There are less skills available for commanders now. They are also weaker skills.

[mortal viper]

Yes, but they should put the best ones according to the tank.
Since it was at 386 crew members, 3 minutes per crew member is 1,158 minutes, which I don't have to do since it was done before the full update.

[late apex]

I understand frustration of respec hundreds of commanders. I would suggest clearing most of those you don’t use frequently as there are likely still new skills coming—and it’s free.

Also, wanted to add that moving sixth sense to be auto included is actually a pretty good thing where you lose nothing but time to add something else you may have wanted.

I do wish they would have changed the accuracy perk to one for stationary shooting instead of removal and maybe rapid loading could have been changed to decrease aim time. Still hope they add a decrease aim time park because it seems much more a thing for a skill than equipment.

[formal sorrel]

Im honestly quite enjoying the changed skills there's some actual thought put into which ones I want instead of just copy and paste like previously

Definitely looking forward to the skills that didn't make it in with the update

[late apex]

Maybe at first but then you start to realize they just rearranged some of the deck chairs. Now instead of having variety in the last three skills you almost have none because many are situational and don’t matter.

[grave falcon]

Pretty much which is just copy and paste.

[latent coyote]

Personally really pleased with the update, the game slowed down 🙂
Although sadly the fourth equipment slot costs soooo much silver it´s crazy (I would have preferred it being completely removed or free to be unlocked in tne tech tree of each tank)

[fervent lantern]

Spending a huge amount of silver on equipment is a huge negative. Less commander skill customization was also a drawback. There are less skills to choose from. The worst update they did was to the matchmaker in which the only games a person with a high winrate wins are those that they have to sweat and carry the team.

[fervent lantern]

When is +1-1 matchmaking going to be implemented?

What was the feedback from the customer on +1-1?

Everyone I have spoken to loves the +1-1 yet WOT chooses not to implement a positive update.

[formal sorrel]

Self upvoting is cringe

[fervent lantern]

Criticizing posts of others and bringing no value to the conversation is cringe.

[mortal viper]

I'm waiting for them to fix the mess from the last update.
Which I don't think they will.
Aside from the +1-1 thing, forget it, it's a lost war.
They've been doing it for years, and otherwise, people playing level X would start crying because they don't have 8 easy kills.
Cheers

[late apex]

lol what masochist made those game board ops? For a 3D commander?

That don’t get shot one is bad. I guess it’s time to roll out some HMH arty to sit in the back and pick up crits.

[gleaming parrot]

Please fix the camo on the light tanks ww2. Playing wz-132-1 now on maps like Arctic region is less fun now then Ensk before the giant camo nerf. The spotting mecanics is what i like with this game. This reminds me of the true vision test. Not fun at all.

[hallow lark]

I have a mixed feelings about this season.
It is great bcause of perks / equipment changes for sure. Game has become far more healthy than after 6.0. Awesome work Wargaming, keep the direction!
Now for the bad part - Nightstalker has been exposed to be picked by any player for just playing. The tank that is known as heavily overpowered since the very beginning so year ago -> #1290625476188049441 message. Tank which toxic impact was not so much visible when it has been hidden under gold price. Tank that should not be even added to ww2. Now it has it's significant impact on ww2 battles, impact that refrains me from playing this game atm until it calms down.
Summing up: realy positive changes impacted with harmful one. It wont get better until this nightstalking abomination gets huge nerf.

[minor tendon]

Just move the Nightstalker up to tier 10 and make the pramo rockets normal and different pramo rockets. This way no tier 7 tanks will ever face a Nightstalker.

[fervent lantern]

I have played close to 25k battles. I have thoroughly enjoyed the game. Until 2 months ago I have never posted anything on the channel. This was my go to game. I disagree with the changes and do not enjoy the game anymore. When you update a game and you have longtime customers dissatisfied with the product to the point they stop purchasing product from you and reduce their playtime it will impact your Profit and Loss. If your goal is to make the game equitable then this is not the game for me.

[mortal viper]

Hello, good day.

I had over 40,000 battles and played 423 matches last month.

But since the new update, I've only played two matches, and it seems like they've ruined the game so much that I don't plan on playing anymore.

Even though I have over 300 days of premium and gold, which I literally don't care about.

Regards.
Thanks to Wargaming for ruining a great game

[last oracle]

I'v had 60,000+ battles and played about the same as you last month.
I'v played a couple of hundered battles since the new update to give it a fair chance.
I'v decided I very much like the update and hope you hope you can give it a fair chance as well.
Judging it after only 2 battle seems more like old dog new tricks rather than there is something you really hate about it.
Correction, I don't like is the Red Wall of Death within this new update.

[mortal viper]

Hello, good day. I've only played two games because I have to assign a ton of skills to the crew members, and I don't feel like wasting any more time. When I play, I play to have fun, not to do the work twice. Assigning all the new skills to 386 crew members one by one seems ridiculous. That alone has convinced me not to play anymore.

[fervent lantern]

My goal this week is to play no more battles. I will also continue not purchasing anything. The game is no longer fun. Spent millions of credit to re-equip just a portion of my tanks previously fully equipped. Weaker equipment and skills. Less skills to choose from. Updated “Equitable and Fair” matchmaking have ruined the game for me.

Played 1800 games the last 90 days. Played 370 the last 30. My playtime has decreased significantly over the past month. The goal is to play 0 in the last 30. Tough when this was my go to game for so long.

[last oracle]

Yes, I do sympathise with you on the crew skills and tank equipment as its a bit of a chore and so many commanders and tanks to alter for all of us. But honestly I do think it's worth it and hope you give it another go.
It would be great to see WG extend the free crew skill swap and 50% off equipment beyond the 28 days they gave us, or at least repeat it again in again in a couple of months time as lots of players do think this side of it is a big negative.

[mortal viper]

Hello, good day. I don't think I'll be returning to the game since I don't like repeating the same thing twice; it feels like a waste of time. Besides, I've lost money on this update by not being able to enjoy the premium days I have, as I don't want to play again because I have a lot to do and little time to play.

But thanks for the encouragement, but I'm very disappointed with the game and with Wargaming. Regards.

[delicate reef]

holy copypasta

[fervent lantern]

The game is now slanted against players with a high winrate. If I do not carry the team or place in the top 3 we typically lose. No fun playing a game where you only win if you sweat. Taxing high winrate players so low winrate players can have wins. Socialism has reached WOT console.

My streak of not purchasing anything continues!

Averaged 12.6 games per day over the last 30. I was averaging 22.95 games per day the 60 days before that.

I play significantly less now and my average games played per day is decreasing. If I get punished for have a high winrate what is the purpose of playing this game?

The enjoyment and replay value of my favorite game is almost completely gone.

[fervent lantern]

Sorry to hear you are leaving the game. I have not hit that point yet but on the verge. Already significantly decreased my playtime. The game is no longer fun because it punishes players with higher winrates. No fun playing a game where I have to carry the team each time to win occasionaly.

[marble dune]

I've always wanted a system to praise other players for their hard work, so I'm glad that we were able to at least partially realize that during the Halloween candy distribution event.
However, I'd like to have a system to praise other players on a regular basis as well. I think Blitz had one.

[late apex]

Didn’t realize at first but for the Trick or Treat event, if you hover over one of the treats you receive, it allows you to send one back quickly. That was nice to have and wish I found it sooner!

[native vault]

Same man, WoT Console became the worst game i have ever played, and it getting even worse...

I was playing in this game from xbox 360, i have no money in those time to play online, i entered in from the shop to play online, i remember this time, it was awesome

[marble hamlet]

Hi Devs, Have you ever attention the online player quantity is inreased or decreased compare with the same time of last month and last year? What's happenning about the consealment of the MT, no consealment skill or equipment effetive for them. But nobody give an answer for that. And there so many other bugs there. I have to say this is the worst season ever before. You can see my battle times decreased a lot this half year. You are moving those exciting things from your game. If you think people already invested a lot time and money in this game before, they will play it forever in the future, then it will be big mistake. Good luck, guys.

[mortal viper]

Welcome to the club of people who quit playing the game because of Wargaming's interns. See my previous comments. Cheers.

[fervent lantern]

If your winrate was high before they implemented the equitable matchmaking update then winning will be very difficult. I only win now if I carry the team and I am in the top three. If I don’t carry the team then we lose. The game is no longer fun.

The matchmaker was implemented to level everyone winrate to 50%. This makes those with low winrates feel good. Wargaming will start issuing out Participation Medals after every match.
Those with zero damage will get an additional medal, the “I want everyone to carry me” medal.

[native vault]

And they still didn't turn that off

Who need this 💩

I'm not blind

players don't want to see this

[grave falcon]

Wish I could turn it off as well

[fossil quest]

French heavies gotta change

[delicate reef]

I love the metallic camos they are awesome going to grind for a few more of these thanks wg

[light elbow]

The matchmaking change has ruin this game for me. It’s either I play sweaty and stick with the most meta tanks or get smashed because I didn’t carry. I can deal with overpowered tanks and general balancing issues and random changes to equipment and skills and the selling of ugly tanks. But the matchmaking change is a step too far. You get an F wgc.

[mortal viper]

Hello fellow gamers!

First, the interns release an update so good it ruins a good game.

Then they release a new French line with a monstrosity on its head so everyone can shoot it.
Now they're releasing a Black Friday deal with a tank they tweaked because it was too good. Please, get rid of these monkeys at Wargaming.

[late apex]

Why do the new French heavies not have stroboscopic cupolas?

[native vault]

I'm done...

I hope they die of money.

[pastel brook]

So... like the Dark Realm update, some parts were a bit odd here and there but I've gotten used to it.

There are a few oddities as previously mentioned, but nothing too groundbreaking or negative.
(Will update this either here, or make a Twitch/YouTube video about it)

[fair trail]

We still wait for "trade-in" and sales with free XP...

We were told they'd come more regularly when WG decided to remove tons of premium tanks available to buy.

Well... nothing for ages... about 8 months already...

Concerning the Black Friday:
The new skins + the extra XP to win with them can be interesting.

However, we were expecting for more sales (premium tanks, skins, etc), not only the "black tanks/skins"...
And we were used to be able to get one as reward after completing a challenge, but nothing here in 2025...
2024 was 100% the same as 2023...

[pastel brook]

Didn't they say more would be released as time went on or something?
(Some Premiums, as far as I'm aware of, cannot be re-bought cuz of licensing, sadly)