#ERA add on armor

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balmy merlin
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I think it coud be a good idea to have an equipment that adds weight to you vehicle and in exchange allows you to equip ERA blocks on your tanks
Also era should be adjusted to provide more efficent protection against atgms.
What do you guys think?

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ERA add on armor

vale marsh
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No era doesn't provide anything against modern atgms and is pretty useless again apfsds so it'll change nothing

balmy merlin
vale marsh
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A lot of them yes

dense nacelle
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we have no tandem charge mechanic on console so ERA would absolutely be effective. I would be pretty cool with seeing some upgrade packs that include them

vale marsh
balmy merlin
limber pelican
balmy merlin
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👀

limber pelican
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Because jeez man something like a challenger2 needs era

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Just a atgm magnet

balmy merlin
# vale marsh A lot of them yes

Ohhhhh i also realized something

There are many era blocks that are designed to defend against tandem shaped charged atgms

And they do work
Ao we can have those era blocks who says it should be kontact 1? Russia especially we like to mock them but their era packages work ...if they bother to put them on and uncle yuri hasnt sold them for this years Christmas vodka

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So basically we dont even need to bend reality

vale marsh
balmy merlin
vale marsh
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Usa is using it on the side of their tanks to add additional "armour" to try protect the crew from getting melted but on leopard and stv it's composites most missiles don't care if its era or composites that's why aps systems exist

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But irl you also just spam shots at a target until it burns so...

dense nacelle
vale marsh
dense nacelle
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There already is ERA in game...

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A lot of it

vale marsh
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But it doesn't work like era my guy

dense nacelle
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Yes and neither do the tandem charge missiles. So I'm really curious why it was even relevant to mention when in game neither system works like in reality

vale marsh
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Oh wow 15mil more armour that'll surely save you 🤦

dense nacelle
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ERA in game provides a penetration reduction multiplier to chemical rounds that hit em, yes it absolutely makes a difference

vale marsh
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So does air or heat cage's which would be a way better alternative

dense nacelle
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Yes those are different ways of blocking chemical rounds. ERA is just a nice simple way of doing so without changing needing drastic changes or hampering APFSDS rounds

balmy merlin
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I think the problem is that you dont completely understand the physical rule behind it

Atgms and shaped charge munition are not magical things that ignore armor

These type of munition are for starters at already nearing their limit of performance

Beside that their penetrate loss is much higher because they dint have the mass and lenght of a rod meaning their energy disipates much much more after encountering a resisting force be it passive layered armor or simple spaced armor

Beside that tandem shaped charge atgms only have a small extra charge on their head ehich detonates a simple era block like kontact 1

Every other gen 2 era like kontact 5 are specifically designed to counter such threats

Now as complicated all of this is its relatively simple problem to fix

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@vale marsh

vale marsh
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Like i said there's a bunch of clips that'll show you how "effective" Kontakt is. generally can't trust statements made by Russia since there's clips of supposed era on the T90 just being rocks and they're lying about a bunch of other things+corruption throughout the military

balmy merlin
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First of all we dont know the full extend of those videos and as chieftain said before you only see the videos of the times it did manage to penetrate no pojt in showing you when they fail to penetrate

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So far you have failed to provide a single reasonable and logical reason as to why the era armor doesn't work

minor frigate
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This would actually be pretty neat

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Both mechanic wise and visually

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Imagine seeing a M1A2 coated in TUSK in this game.

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Or a 2A4V from Ukraine or something

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Would be pretty cool

balmy merlin
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It would

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And imagine the gameplay benefits!

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The only reason you wont want this is because you fear you wont be able to use atgms ingame

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🥸

minor frigate
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The only ATGM carriers I'm worried about are tanks that sorta rely on them

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BMP-1, 2, 3 are grand examples

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That poor line needs a buff in general

balmy merlin
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Given how my t-72 avis still getting penetrated in the areas its not covered id say they are still fine

minor frigate
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Otherwise other ATGM carriers have enough damage to make a successful hit still quite rewarding.

minor frigate
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That thing is my favorite tank, and its criminal how many ATGMs get past the ERA bricks

balmy merlin
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😄

minor frigate
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I actually got 2 marks on it. Getting hit by ATGMs more feel like a 50/50

pastel flame
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Atgms are definitely effected by spaced armor/era in this game. I know this is an extreme example but the molot and belka are very renowned for eating atgms with the sheer amount of spaced armor. Abrahams also does a solid job at absorbing impacts frontally with is spaced blocks. And the obj 640 composite/era armor absorbs atgms for breakfast, and era 3 t72 varients ufp too

vale marsh
balmy merlin
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🙂

tawny pond
# balmy merlin I think it coud be a good idea to have an equipment that adds weight to you vehi...

Explosive Reactive Armor is a slippery slope
First of all there are many types of ERA form differing eras
Second the addition of ERA makes the game work harder
Third you could do it but then people might what Active Protection System in the game which is another thing that you can see on tank example amx 30b2 which means you probably have change who they face which is just to much work at this point

balmy merlin
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Well all im saying is that maybe as a equipment that takes something but gives protection against atgms its a good idea

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Plus maybe they can program the equipment in a way that after each hit that specific panel is gone this way it will make the tanks like t-72av be better

dense nacelle
limber pelican
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Aps would be cool but then atgm player's would cry because i can't hurt anything now

tawny pond
dense nacelle
limber pelican
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If we ever get era4 I can see aps being one it's unique mechanics

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Yes ik technically some era2 tanks could get it namely some Soviet tanks