New Warhammer Tanks

[robust ravine]

Been hearing a lot about future collab surveys today so figured it was a good time to post a suggestion for more Warhammer 40k tanks or 40k inspired tanks. There are an absolute ton of armored vehicles to choose from and I want to showcase a few of them in here that I think would make for some fun additions. My goal in providing stats is not so much a suggestion and is more to show how they could be added while keeping with some of the original spirit of the vehicle.

As I update this post with images, descriptions, more vehicles, and hopefully stat proposals I will add links to them next to their names below:
Hydra (E2 TD) #1417983226621984809 message
Predator (E3 Medium) #1417983226621984809 message
Vindicator (T10 TD) #1417983226621984809 message
Fellblade (E3 SH) #1417983226621984809 message
Falchion (E3 SH TD) #1417983226621984809 message
Sicaran (E3 MBT) #1417983226621984809 message
Vanquisher Leman Russ (Turret option) #1417983226621984809 message
Destroyer Tank Hunter (E2 TD) #1417983226621984809 message
Kratos (E3 Heavy) #1417983226621984809 message
Land Raider (E2 Heavy) #1417983226621984809 message
Grot Tank (T4 Light) #1417983226621984809 message

WIP: more chimeras

Starting with the Hydra, this is a medium armor SPAA vehicle that can be used in a direct fire role. Its weight comes in at 42 tons with a top speed of 50kph and a fully traversible turret. It has predicatably poor gun depression and in universe its accuracy against terrestrial targets is poor due to the vehicle's machine spirit refusing to lock on to them necessitating manual aim.

Stats wise this vehicle would need some edits but I believe will fit well into Era 2.

Hydra (Era 2 TD)
Caliber 40mm
Damage 40/60
Module Damage 20/20
Pen 150/40mm
Dropoff at 500m 100/40mm
Ammo speed 1500/1200
Ammo APDS/HE
Blast Radius 0/0.55m
Reload 16s
Clip size 32(8 per autocannon)
Intraclip .05s
Burst damage 1280/1.6s
DPM 4364

Accuracy .32m
Accuracy during hull traverse 2.3m
Accuracy during turret traverse 1.4m
Aim time 2s
Elevation 76
Depression 3
Turret traverse speed 35

Top speed 50kph
Reverse speed 20kph
Hull traverse 32
Terrain resistance 0.6/0.8/1.8
Horsepower 900
Weight 42t
HP/T 21.4

Health 2400
Camo 420m/375m
View range 520m
fire chance 15%
Frontal hull armor 150mm
Turret armor 100mm

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[cinder acorn]

Sorry man, I am not saying WH content isn't cool

But I don't like it being a WW2 tank focused tank game

Don't take it as hate but rather as an opinion

[lament maple]

Just throw it over in CW

I dont care what happens there😂

Add anything you want over there😂

Keep ww2 with somewhat real tanks. Or atleast real looking tanks

[robust ravine]

funny enough most of these I intended to go to CW as we got the lion's share in ww2 during the last collabs

I do intend on the Vindicator being a WW2 tank and am undecided on where to put the Fellblades atm. I was thinking the Falchion could perhaps go to Era 2 with reinforced frontal armor and its improved firepower whereas the base Fellblade could hang around in WW2 occupying a similar niche to the Type 5

Ill be adding a stat package for the Predator later tonight or tomorrow. I intend on that one being an Era 3 IFV

[nimble anchor]

Vindicator should be WW2

Blitz cooked there 🙏

[hazy verge]

If they do more 40k they better not sell it only in a $300 bundle. Super sick for that greed to be that bad.

[runic nova]

last full sale event had all the tanks available on their own, previous to that we did chests as part of Skull Fest which was a commander chest - which does have tanks with a very low drop chance (as they have been since they have been a thing). Previous feedback was that if tanks are in a chest, players would prefer that there be at least a mega bundle option so if someone really wants to go for the tanks (i would not advice aiming for the tanks in a commander chest) they can avoid spending a lot of money and not getting the tanks at all or that they want, so a mega bundle would avoid that.

So we did what was suggested and in the next sale had the tanks on their own

[hazy verge]

Ah well that does make sense. Loot boxes are always bad but, atleast you listened and gave some people the option.

People do give you guys a hard time. Im sure alot of the greed issues isn't in the devs control.

[runic nova]

people vote with their wallets, what they say in discord doesn't always match what they do elsewhere 😅 We will always do that we can to find the best mix of best for the player and the product. The game can't exist if both aren't happy in some way, whether that's enjoying the battle or making sure you get a paycheck at the end of the month 😄

[hazy verge]

Yup, very true 🙂

[robust ravine]

So for the Predator I'd like to focus on the Destructor pattern primarily but I might make a turret swap that allows it to mount the Annihilator patterns twin linked lascannons in favor of the autocannon. The autocannon I plan to treat as a 40mm similar to what we see on the Strf 9040 and the lascannons I will treat as 20mm. It will also have a hunter killer missile as a secondary, mounted to the side of the turret. Alongside its other characteristics I think this tank will be a good fit in Era 3

[robust ravine]

The Predator is an adaptation of the Rhino APC. Over time its usage has shifted between IFV and MBT depending on the force using it. The Predator Destructor is the autocannon variant pictured below. It is said to fire rounds "larger than a space marine's fist" with a high penetration HE round as well as an armor piercing option. Overall the vehicle carries many similar characteristics to something like a Bradley albeit altered to suit the combat of 40k. Armor wise the vehicle is surprisingly thick with its composite armor being 65mm thick and an under layer being 55mm on the sides and front and 50mm on the back with an additional 10mm reinforced upper glacius. This armor leads to a weight of 48 tons yet it retains a top speed of 68kph. There is another vairant of the Predator classed as the Predator Annihilator which replaces the autocannon for twin linked lascannons while retaining most of the same vehicle characteristics. In game this could be adapted as a simple turret change similar to the Rogal Dorn's loadout.

Predator (Era 3 Medium)
(Destructor Turret)
Caliber 40mm
Damage 50/80
Module Damage 25/25
Pen 235/90mm
Dropoff at 500m 220/90mm
Ammo speed 1400/900
Ammo APDS/HE
Blast Radius 0/0.6m
Reload 14s
Clip size 30
Intraclip 0.2s

Accuracy .32m
Accuracy during turret traverse 0.96m
Accuract during hull traverse 2.8m
Aim time 2.3s

Accuracy 0.30m
Accuracy during turret traverse 0.8m
Accuracy during hull traverse 1.9m
Aim time 2.2s

Shared characteristics

Elevation 28
Depression 15
Turret Traverse speed 40

Top speed 68kph
Reverse speed 25kph
Hull traverse 38
Terrain Reistance 0.5/0.6/1.1
Horsepower 915
Weight 48t
HP/T 19

Health 3200
Camo 355/355m
View range 560m
fire chance 10%

(Annihilator Turret)
Caliber 20mm
Damage 30/50
Module Damage 15/15
Pen 180/50
Dropoff at 500m 170/50
Ammo speed 1600/1200
Ammo APDS/HE
Blast radius 0/0,2m
Reload 23s
Intra 0.03s
Clip size 50

(Hunter killer atgm secondary)
Damage 1100
Module Damage 203
Pen 800mm
Ammo Speed 260
Ammo ATGM
Reload 16s

Elevation 5
Depression 5
Bound to turret movement

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[robust ravine]

annihilator variant

I'll put together the Vindicator next. I'm thinking a +210mm caliber somewhere around tier 8 and 10

[clear forum]

man I remember this tank in wot blitz

it one of the worst premium

ADD into the game pls

[hidden ice]

I asked.

Been asked this.

Been made a post about it.

Very little people liked it.

[hidden ice]

Sir we already stopped doing that.

The Yoh tanks

(I know they were a real idea)

Like. Come on.

Look at them

They aren't exactly lookers

[lament maple]

na i agree. but atleast they kinda fit in

same colors and stuff

not the WH ones from outer space🤣

[robust ravine]

Most the warhammer ones are based on existing analogs or at least inspired by them. Many WW1 inspired heavies and a lot of the rest you can see clear connections to modern tanks ie Rhino to M113

[lament maple]

maybe but they dont looks real at all

greean and tan. crazy colors

id be ok if maybe they were skinless

still dont like them tho

[robust ravine]

Probably just the paint jobs throwing you off. I'd say a KV-5 would be just as alien in one of our NATO or Bright camos

[lament maple]

i just wish i could turn off the ugly skins

i know this game isnt realistic, but i try to make it as much as possible

[robust ravine]

fair enough, thats kind of a whole separate thing though. There are tons of wacky or collab cosmetic elements in the game. Ik PC has a filter for it but that would be a different thread

[lament maple]

i agree

theres alot i wish i could turn off

pretty much every colab tank

[robust ravine]

Been a bit too busy to get the Vindicator stats finished but I am kind of curious how anyone would feel if I went with a different armor pattern than what wot blitz used and instead went with the deimos pattern so I could drop the additional spaced armor

Going for something more like this rather than adding the massive spaced plow armor

[nimble anchor]

I like the idea of the spaced armor blow and giving it very limited yaw

[robust ravine]

Funny enough both vehicles have the same gun constraints. Just a question of if it has a plow or not and a mantlet or not

Technically the frontal armor on the Deimos pattern is better but just given how our spaced armor works on console the plow makes me kinda nervous 😅

[nimble anchor]

It looks like the one without the plow would have more lol

[robust ravine]

i mean i could always tweak the stats so there is a difference between them. Im thinking i may just do both sort of as a gun or turret swap option like i did with the Predator

[teal hawk]

Yes, that does sounds like a good idea.

[robust ravine]

Alright so I've got the stat packages made (finally) for the Vindicator with some slight tweaks between the variant with the plow and the one without. I had to take some liberties to make these playable that otherwise would be kinda tough (example being 0 gun depression and yaw) as well as some of the overtuned elements like how this vehicle is another Rhino platform tank and as such shares its immense top road speed of 64kph which i felt compelled to reduce.

I feel it relevant to mention that I intended for this vehicle to share a similar hull armor thickness to the Predator which is said to be roughly 200mm effective armor between all of its spaced plates. For the sake of retaining WW2 modeling I would argue to drop the spaced armor to a single 10mm plate directly on top of a 200mm effective upper plate (which I assume for this vehicle would mean something aroud 150mm thick?) while the sides could be thinner at two sheets of something like 50mm interior and 20mm track guard. I decided to go with the more common Vindicator armor pattern rather than the Deimos pattern so please ignore the Iron Fists (yellow) vindicator above when you wish to see how the vehicle's armor may look.

The base model without the plow should be pennable with most tier 10 standards frontally when unangled. The plow variant should be thick enough to result in non-pen for all rounds but retain weakspots in the form of a viewport, cupola, and the flat bar across the top of the superstructure. I believe there should be an option to change variants in the loadout without making them separate tanks.

Vindicator T10 TD (with Plow stats in these)
Caliber 305mm
Damage 1200/1500
Module Damage 295
Pen 315/105mm
Ammo Speed 355/355
Ammo Heat/HE
Blast Radius 0/11.5m
Reload 30s
DPM 2400

Accuracy 0.4m
Accuracy during hull traverse 1.9m
Accuracy during gun traverse 0.9m
Aim time 3s
Elevation 80
Depression 4 (2)
Yaw -7/+7 (-3/+3)
Gun traverse speed 22

Top speed 46kph (30kph)
Reverse speed 10kph (8kph)
Hull traverse 28 (20)
Terrain resistance 1.1/1.3/2.6 (1.3/1.5/2.8)
Horsepower 675hp
Weight 48t (65t)
HPT 14 (10.4)

Health 2100
Camo 430/410m (445/430m)
View range 390m
Fire chance 15%

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[clear forum]

315 heat?

[robust ravine]

Yup

[robust ravine]

Should have fellblade stats ready soon

[vivid furnace]

Give me my vanquisher cannon on a lemun russ and ill be happy

[grand ether]

-2 degrees of gun dep = 💀 unplayable on 90 percent of maps

Unless it's frontal armor is completely impenetrable i don't want this tank

[robust ravine]

It wouldn't be impenetrable as there would remain weak points above the plow as well as a drivers port but hitting the plow would result in non-pen for even the highest pen HEAT rounds thanks to the massive spacing gap

[robust ravine]

If I get some time I might add it to the list in the next week or so. Could be fun

[full quail]

Id like to see a mode with a fellblade/baneblade. But for Pubs, nope, you clarely not a 40k collector, its 4x size of the russ

a chaos one WGing???

id love a moving skin. Nurgle predator, (use the OLD pred model, the 2nd edition predator)

i doubt GW let you do that

but you forgot the Sicaren. Everybody else go find your own piccys of them. They meant to be fast

4 different versions of that, 2 mediums 2 TDs

[full quail]

Learn to find GD. Its hard work, but easily found

[robust ravine]

I am aware of the size issue, just figured it could be rescaled to more Type 5 like proportions. Rather than a multiple story house 😂

[robust ravine]

Yeah I can add the Sicaran as well

[full quail]

4x size of russ, 2 very nasty battle cannons in twin. 4 las cannons, one demolisher cannon in hull. Frak knows how many heavy bolter.

[robust ravine]

So far I've focused on the battle cannons exclusively and ditched mws in favor of a DB mechanic

[full quail]

nahhh, it wouldnt be right. And please NO shadow sword

brb, il show why

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbO8BGr0Tgs because shadow swords are meant to kill these and they use that gun, 1 size down.

5billion damage also crashes game

[robust ravine]

Error too many 0s lol

[full quail]

Anything above 8k is going to break things if game is optimised. So id expect the limit to be +/- 32k

[robust ravine]

My plan was the twin accelerator cannons to go for something scaled down to about like the Type 5 140 but again I'll have full stats done probably tomorrow morning. I know it's not to scale for the lore or even compared to the other models but it's just such a cool vehicle and I'd like to see it in game if possible

[full quail]

the plasma/las/punisher are now available plastic so i think gw let wg have them. Not sure if the Kratos is exclusivly 30k?

[full quail]

thats why id suggest special 1+bots vs 10 players

we still get to see it, play with it. Id love to see a Tzeench fellblade/kraytos

btw, kratos = small fellblade

[robust ravine]

I'd love to see more heretic armor in general.

[full quail]

missing the boat on the e100 was bad, it needed a chaos skin.

[robust ravine]

One of my personal favorites is the plagueburst crawler but honestly I omitted it because I refuse to design a designated artillery stats

[full quail]

many tank in 40k, orks loot anything IG for starters.

So where is my ork skin for Leman russ? A rogal would never be left to be captured

[robust ravine]

Orks would be the easiest to do reskins or styles with. I debated adding the Kill Bursta but figured it would be best served if I left it it for a skins specific thread and used it for a sturmtiger style

[full quail]

we have a Chimera, which can easily be given missles, hydra, quad AAA. I refuse to speak of Griffin/Baslisk

grot tank would be funny

[robust ravine]

Honestly could be great as a low tier

[full quail]

Dark eldar, eldar, necros, tau all exclusively hover. But a themed skin on sensible tank, (like the emissary) is fine

[full quail]

id play low tier if we had that. But they have to be funny, stupid unstable, or gun that shoots wrong target for you.

Grot tants would be hilarious, but gw would never let wging have them as tgey not in plastic

forge world, old resin casts only for those. 2nd ed/rouge trader

[robust ravine]

yeah that could work, I wasnt really thinking of the other xeno factions outside the orks. Could maybe even make a Tyranid themed skin in that case

[full quail]

Easily, just cover a tank in Tyranid Citin

bit like the wraith

necro would get black metal and green glowy bits

[robust ravine]

dark eldar would be pretty easy with just a bunch of pointy bits and painted black while the eldar could maybe go wraithbone?

[full quail]

eldar get a shiney new looking one

[robust ravine]

im kinda at a loss for Tau, not a fan of that faction and have rarely seen their models in person

[full quail]

easily done. Darkys are very pointy. A darky commander would also tick man boxes also

[full quail]

im a space wolf player. Hate tau. GW are 100x more blatent with their balancing and the bait and switch

and SW get invarriably shafted, and tau have too much dakka

there tank tho, are basically more blocky eldar tanks

its mostly Gungum battle mechs tho.

blame imperium for that one

And go find yourself a copy of Imperial armour.

its out of date, but should be online

because you forgot, "single" las cannon, twin linked las cannon. The Baal pred which gets twin rotories.

and lets not forget Leman Russ varrients either

Punisher (gau)

Vanquisher (very long BC)

Demolisher, (sturm tiger gun)

Exiqutioner (Plasma)

and for collectors of 40k that didnt know this stuff is a thing. Dont glue your turret on to your Russ, resin turrets are £35 from forge world (or get somebody to print one 4u)

that saves you £35 a pop. I think an irl russ is £70 now

[full quail]

There is a lazer destryer version also, 4x Las, and big plasma

and sry sturm, you didnt miss hydra

and can we not have sponsons for purposes of just looking cool?

and if anybody wants to weigh in on the Land raider. I think it works with 200° archs both sides. And if somebody 100m away, if they dead in front/behind they get both sides

there is also the Tarrantula. Aka the tracked field gun with Big Laser destoyer

and the Whirlwind. Please not as IDF

Manticore and Death strike arnt worth thinking about either

and i think the hell hound wouldnt work well

[robust ravine]

I think the first and biggest issue is just controlling all the auxiliary systems. Cycling multiple turrets is hard enough to manage even with the Japanese super heavies and their mini turret, having 2 turrets with no overlap in firing angle and a center blind spot would be even more frustrating to manage with current controls.

It could maybe work in the case of the Land Raider if it was kept to the sponson lascannons as the only armaments but it would still be pretty tough to play imo

[full quail]

But no different to udes 03?

[robust ravine]

Udes is a bit more intuitive being more of a front towards enemy and the siege mode lets it aim nearly freely with the camera

[full quail]

and also. Gw only let you have Kraytos/baneblade

[full quail]

yes, it would be a skill tank. The fact they even got russ to work supprises me

[full quail]

it has to be on the shelf as plastic.

fellblades are £800, baneblades are £110

[robust ravine]

I might get around to making some stat packages for em once i get through the current list. I could pretty much swap the non-gun stat package of the Fellblade to the Baneblade with little change tbh, I just went Fellblade because I wanted to make use of another DB heavy tank and preferred its turret geometry. Ill probably get around to adding a few of the others we have discussed once I get through the current list

[full quail]

yes, the 1/4 dome on the fellblade is lovely. But also void shields. That £800 includes a plastic baneblade. (as they are same chassis)

but the shadow sword, doesnt have a much smaller gun (Volcano Lance?) that that titan.

go look at getting some printed/second hand Epic (5mm 40k)

and lookup that book.

[robust ravine]

Yeah I was planning the Falchion for Era 3 and to hit like a train at around 2.2k firing both barrels again scaled massively down to actually fit with a playable size for the game

[full quail]

yeah, they sound great, look great. But i just think we better off trying for the smaller ones. We might get a plastic fellblade 1 day. We have the Kraytos.

Have you seen a kraytos?

its a bit like the fellblade turret. Or the 2nd ed predator

but smaller than baneblade. GW defo let wging have that. Kraytos quite new as plastic

[robust ravine]

not in person but i pulled up images after you mentioned it. Its neat and id be down to make a stat package once I actually read up more on it

[full quail]

few discords you could join for it. Awespex Tachtics has one.

Others will have stls if you have printer

and, on the board? Its 2+ armour T8 about 16 wounds. So between baneblad and Russ

no void shield i think

[robust ravine]

for translating to WoT i am not too worried about a void shield, i have been kind of routinely making cuts and edits to each vehicle so far in order to fit existing mechanics and game design as best i can

[full quail]

i dont have it in my book

[full quail]

yeah best. Las cannon are a bit much. And you were counting LCs as 20mm? Really?

the preator AC should be very like the era 2 bagel

[robust ravine]

yep. That was more a gameplay choice as I really wanted to cement a difference in the armament choices. I decided to go with the LCs being smaller yet still anti armor capable. The AC I went 40mm and took heavily after the stats on the STRF 9040 while boosting up the HE to make it feel like a heavier weapon

[full quail]

you could also have the twin AC/Las razor back. (the ifv)

[full quail]

yeah, your ideas work. Il get my stuff up one day, a day latter il get asked to design the next 40k skin

You have to be at least semi pro to collect Wolves

[hidden ice]

Imagine a 40k game mode where people duke it out wjth predators and vindicators

The losing team gets nuked by a imperial class titan.

[full quail]

Imperitor Class Titan.

[hidden ice]

Imperitor*

Sorry

[full quail]

that one i. Posted above

[hidden ice]

Thats the big walking church yes?

[full quail]

yes, the one that came with OG titan legeons

that had a macro 6 barrel and macro volcano/plasma

and some clever folk made a full 40k size lower leg for a games day.

[hidden ice]

Oh really? Wow.

[full quail]

yeah, didnt you see the stairs on the legs?

[hidden ice]

No I didn't actually

[full quail]

They are, tropps disembark out of the legs

so the 50mm scale one was just used as a dyorama

easy enough to find

[hidden ice]

Pretty neat

[full quail]

its 2m tall

[hidden ice]

So taller than most people? Cool

[full quail]

just one lower leg

[hidden ice]

Wonder how big the thing would be full size.

[full quail]

fully done would be +1m for hips and +2-3m for the upper

that one in the vid is a bit short tbh. Might be 1 size down. Still an Imperitor. I. Prefer reavers anyway

[robust ravine]

Apologies for the long gap in me getting the next stat packs out, however I did finish both the Fellblade and Falchion.

For background info the Fellblade is an absolutely massive superheavy tank with devastating weapons capable of wiping out just about any ground target. For the purposes of WoT they would need to be massively scaled down.

CW could use a few tanks in the superheavy category and these two offer a chance for a massive raw armor hulk with firepower enough to demand respect from their enemies. Starting with the armor I would like to see these vehicles have armor on par with existing damage sponges like the Strv 122a, Molot, and Belka against kinetic muntions. For the Fellblade the cupola should remain a frontal weakspot while the inner hull above the track, sponson, and rear cupola should be side armor weakspots, while the rear hull remains extremely vulnerable. However unlike these vehicles I would propose going for raw effective armor rather than reliance on spacing or ERA countermeasures so that it may remain vulnerable to the high pen munitions (850mm+) if not angled sufficiently. The Falchion should have the same characteristics however adding the side and rear of the superstructure as a weakspot. The side armor on both should be thick enough to withstand conventional hits shallower than 60 degrees from kinetic munitions if not aimed for the weakspots. The side hull armor should be able to stop atgms completely with its thick spacing unless again aimed at weakspots.

In the firepower department these vehicles will hit hard, really hard thanks to their double barrel mechanics. Fighting these vehicles head on should be intimidating however they should struggle on account of their lacking DPM.

Fellblade (Era 3 Superheavy)
Caliber 140mm*2
Damage 700/870
Module Damage 200/200
Pen 670/240mm
Ammo Speed 1700/1250
Ammo APFSDS/HE
Blast Radius 0/2.9m
Reload 11.5s
DPM (1 gun) 3652
Intraclip 2.5s
Lockout 2s
Burst damage 2100/11.5s or 1400 instantly

Accuracy 0.33m
Accuracy during turret traverse 0.9m
Accuracy during hull traverse 2.5m
Aim time 2.3s
Elevation 20
Depression 6
Turret Traverse speed 28

Top speed 45kph
Reverse speed 15kph
Hull traverse 24
Terrain Resistance 1.3/1.4/2.4
Horsepower 2300
Weight 150t
HP/T 15.33

Health 4150
Camo 500/480m
View Range 560m
Fire Chance 10%

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The Falchion is a tank destroyer variant of the Fellblade featuring much larger hull mounted Volcano cannons. In universe these are fortress breakers and titan killers, featuring some of the most devastating firepower possible for a terrestrial war machine. For a look at the armor please read the Fellblade entry above #1417983226621984809 message

Falchion (Era 3 siege td)
Caliber 180mm*2
Damage 1150/1500
Module Damage 244/244
Pen 730/250mm
Ammo speed 1900/1400
Ammo APFSDS/HE
Blast Radius 0/5.8m
Reload 20s
DPM (1 gun) 3450
Intraclip 5s
Lockout 4s
Burst damage 3450 in 20s or 2300 instantly

Accuracy 0.35m
Accuracy during gun traverse 0.8m
Accuracy during hull traverse 1.6m
Elevation 30
Depression 6
Yaw limit -2/+2
Gun traverse speed 24

Top speed 45kph
Reverse speed 15kph
Hull traverse 24
Terrain Resistance 1.3/1.4/2.4
Horsepower 2300
Weight 150t
HP/T 15.33

Health 3950
Camo 500/480m
View Range 560m
Fire Chance 10%

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[robust ravine]

Warhammer 40k Tanks

[robust ravine]

To make the thread easier to read I am adding links to the bottom of stat cards to jump back to the original post so that it may act as an interactive table of contents

cuz uh its gonna get a whole lot longer 😂

[clear forum]

UH sir that damage is way to high for a double barrel

and those rounds are going comically fast

and 730 meters of pen

NO thats one shotting a some the of era 3s

oh thank god its just a single shot

double barrel verison cant hurt me

[robust ravine]

Its about on par with the 140-152mm guns of era 3 with pen moderately below them. The original vehicle is firing a laser so I wanted to preserve that feeling of a fast round while keeping its apocalyptic firepower. I am hoping worst in era mobility, largest in era size, and poor gun arc will help tamp down its firepower.

It is a double barrel but each barrel is 1150 so the combined shot damage is 2300 at a full lockout and reload time of 44s stock (ofc improved by skills/equipment)

with HE it would be capable of one shotting a bottom era stock LT 50% of the time which is pretty wild I agree but for such a massive vehicle I want to make it difficult to actually target such vehicles

think like double barrel jag100 but with armor that works

[clear forum]

OH GOD

IT CAN

HURT

ME

PLEASE reconsider the alpha i beg of you

cant we think this through and go 850 or 750

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-shrek-please-beg-pretty-please-gif-9647046979984591269

[robust ravine]

totally could be, after all its a fictional vehicle firing an energy weapon that ive scaled down to about Type 5 size

[lament maple]

I hate them cause of the bullsh** armor. Most annoying thing is trying to pen a rogaldorn. If they make more there needs to be less spaced armor etc

[full quail]

I think if they wanted buffs to the Yag, we would have just seen them. But it got %age adjusting buffs, not 100mm extra on UFP or upper Structure. Hell, 1° each side would have been a buff.

[quasi raft]

I would f dream of it

[robust ravine]

bumping this back up, Ill have a little time on my hands this week to hopefully finish up the vehicles that I added onto the main post.

Im going to continue going in order from top to bottom. On the Sicaran I am thinking of having 2 options of either the twin accelerator cannons (autocannon) or an omega plasma array (double barrel). Currently I am looking to see it added as a heavy (MBT) with great mobility and ok armor. Of the patterns I could find I thought these sounded the most interesting

[robust ravine]

Sicaran (Era 3 Heavy)
Twin Accelerators (autocannon)
Caliber 55mm
Damage 70/100
Module Damage 35/35
Pen 240/75
Dropoff at 500mm 225/75
Ammo speed 1600/1100
Ammo APDS/HE
Blast Radius 0/0.8m
Reload 30s
Clip size 40
Intraclip 0.1s
DPM 4956

Accuracy 0.31
Accuracy during turret traverse 1.1m
Accuracy during hull traverse 2.4m
Aim time 1.5s

Depression 10
Elevation 10
Turret Traverse Speed 44

Top Speed 75/20
Hull Traverse Speed 40
Terrain Resistance 0.9/1.0/2.1
Horsepower 1400
Weight 65t
HP/T 21.5

Health 3500
Camo 440/460
View Range 530m
Fire Chance 15%

Omega Plasma Array (Dual Barrel)
Caliber 120mm
Damage 510/640
Module Damage 180/180
Pen 560/670/140
Ammo Speed 1650/1650/1150
Ammo APDS/APDS/HE
Blast radius 0/0/2.1m
Reload 7.8s
DPM (1 gun) 3923
Intraclip 2s
Lockout 3s
Burst damage 1530/7.8s or 1020 instantly

Low hull armor effectiveness, Driver hatch area and turret should be the most effective but should not bounce without angling. Side armor should be thick enough to angle effectively on flat ground to bounce and stop HE.
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[atomic turret]

Id play them

[robust ravine]

Leman Russ Vanquisher (turret option)
Caliber 140mm
Damage 650/850
Module Damage 190
Pen 265/320/90
Dropoff at 500m 245/295/90
Ammo speed 1350/1050/950
Ammo AP/AP/HE
Blast Radius 0/0/2.1m
Reload 17.3s
DPM 2254

Accuracy 0.30
Accuracy during turret traverse 2.8m
Accuracy during hull traverse 4.1m
Aim time 2.3s

Top speed 32kph
Power to weight 14.29
Weight 63t

The Leman Russ Vanquisher is an anti-tank variant of the Leman Russ we see in tier 10 currently. It mounts a larger, longer, and higher penetration Vanquisher cannon to the same platform so it would be best introduced as a turret option rather than a stand alone premium vehicle. The stat package above is intended to make the LR Vanquisher play more of a methodical support role in contrast to the LR's greater capacity for aggressive pushes.

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[full quail]

It have the sicaren as a medium in era3. And yes i think the double barrel mechanic would work great for the plasma

and you found some really well painted ones

and the sicarens need to be doing 80, they are flanking tanks in lore

and im not sure if the plastic kit makes the plasma. GW not let you have it unless they do it in plastic

Forge world are a "different" company

[full quail]

And i think your idea to lvl it to roughly a twin bagle work

[keen wave]

This thread made me remember that the Leman russ has a 120mm gun for some reason, would it of been criminal to give it a gun caliber capable of over matching 40mm armor plates.

[main marsh]

WH40k event mode when?

[severe charm]

If we ignore lore accurate size, I'd love to see a Baneblade ingame

[pulsar grove]

I'd have made the Predator a Medium MBT

[robust ravine]

Destroyer Tank Hunter (Era 2 TD)
Heavy Laser Destroyer (155mm)
Damage: 800/950/550
Module Damage 205
Pen: 510/510/510
Dropoff at 500m: 490/490/490
Ammo Speed: 2100/2100/2100
Ammo: AP/AP/AP
Blast Radius: NA
Reload: 12.9s/16.4s/7.5s
DPM: 3729/3475/4000

Accuracy: 0.17m
Accuracy during hull traverse 0.34m (0.17m)
Accuracy during turret traverse: 0.20m (NA)
Aim time: 1.5s
Depression: 3 (6)
Elevation 12 (14)
Yaw: -2.5/2.5
Turret Traverse Speed: 20

Top Speed 50/18 (30/18)
Hull rotation: 34
Terrain Resistance 0.8/0.9/1.7
Horsepower: 900
Weight: 52t
HPT: 17.3

Health: 2750
Camo: 415/370m
View Range: 510m
Fire Chance: 15%

Siege Mode Activation: 0s
Siege Mode Deactivation: 1.5s

So this is essentially a Leman Russ converted to a casemate tank destroyer. This stat package draws from the variable reload of other high caliber "laser" weapons such as the Nemesis for its gun. It suffers from poor gun arcs so to make this a bit more playable I suggest adding siege mode to the vehicle. Its armor thickness would be akin to that of the Leman Russ at tier 10, leaving it rather vulnerable to most weapons in Era 2 beyond autocannons.
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[main marsh]

Still 100% think that if the 40k collab returns it should come with an event mode

[golden temple]

With the amount of tanks Warhammer has, WG should honestly make some deal with Games Workshop to have a mode

[main marsh]

There’s a lot of potential there

[full quail]

That picture is a battle cannon, not laser

[full quail]

i dont ever want to play bane blade if all the guns dont work. 11

a shadow sword might be better idea. 1 gun. Base it level with bzt

[main marsh]

Baneblade is too big, would have to be an event boss imo

Image is from sturm a while back

Too many weapons for 1 player to keep track of and cycle through without a special UI

And the thing is downright huge

[full quail]

Then give me a nurgle baneblade.

pve, titan above you

[full quail]

1 big battle cannon, demolisher in the hull. 4 las cannons, and another 5 in various places.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOaA_08RXN4

11 barrels of hell

[pulsar grove]

A Predator Tank with all of its guns working would be interesting but difficult

[vapid sleet]

Would be awesome to have more unique cw tanks in the game.

[pulsar grove]

Chaos Predator when?

[robust ravine]

Kratos (E3 Heavy)
Battle Cannon (130mm)
Damage: 600/600/740
Module Damage: 165/165/165
Pen: 570/640/210
Dropoff at 500m: 562/624/210
Ammo Speed: 1800/1700/900
Ammo: APFSDS/APFSDS/HE
Blast Radius: 0/0/3.05m
Reload: 8.8s
DPM: 4091

Accuracy: 0.26m
Accuracy during hull traverse 0.34m
Accuracy during turret traverse: 0.43m
Aim time: 2.1s
Depression: 6
Elevation 20
Yaw: 180/180
Turret Traverse Speed: 36

Top Speed 50/18
Hull rotation: 34
Terrain Resistance 1/1.1/1.7
Horsepower: 1600
Weight: 90t
HPT: 17.78

Health: 3900
Camo: 490/475m
View Range: 550m
Fire Chance: 10%

(Hunter killer atgm secondary)
Damage 1100
Module Damage 203
Pen 800mm
Ammo Speed 260
Ammo ATGM
Reload 30s
DPM 2200
Arming Distance 100m
Elevation 10
Depression 2

Heavy breakthrough tank, effective armor comparable to western designs but relying more on thickness rather than composites. Vulnerable to high pen atgms frontally, turret to take hits from all but 1200+ pen. We are bringing back yellow and orange pen indicators with this one if you arent aiming for weakspots (:

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[atomic turret]

Oh a super heavy in era3 interesting

[robust ravine]

The next one is the real strange one. I doubt the game works in a way the package I made can even exist but had to get the ol reliable included

Land Raider (E2 Heavy Multi Turret with All Fire Mechanic)
Pintle Mounted Twin Linked Lascannons (20mm) *2
Caliber 20mm
Damage 25/30
Module Damage 12/12
Pen 140/50
Dropoff at 500m 70/50
Ammo speed 1600/1200
Ammo APDS/HE
Blast radius 0/0,2m
Reload 19s
Intra 0.06s
Clip size 45
Clip damage 1125 (2.64s)
DPM 3119
Convergence 400m

Accuracy 0.25m
Accuracy during hull traverse 1.2m
Accuracy during turret traverse 0.62m
Aim time 1.9s
Depression 32
Elevation 42
Yaw: ~92/92 (?)
Turret Traverse Speed 38

Top Speed 55/35
Hull rotation: 30
Terrain Resistance 1.2/1.3/2.1
Horsepower: 2500
Weight: 79t
HPT: 31.65

Health: 2800
Camo: 480/465m
View Range: 450m
Fire Chance: 10%

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It would be pretty tough to make use of pintle mounted guns with how the game flows so I tried my best. The obvious limitation of a massive blind spot is difficult to overcome. The idea I went for was something that can put out autocannon damage beyond something like the Marder but with the obvious limit of nearly never being able to put its full firepower on target reliably and a lower clip size on each turret. I reduced its mobility significantly from its official specifications but 38hpt on a nearly 80 ton tank is just waaaaaaay to good for ramming even after I nuked the turn speed. Its armor is not very thick, most vehicles besides autocannons should have little difficulty punching through any of its armor except when angled, which the side mounted turrets would allow for. The gun should not be part of the damage model but the housing should be.

The gameplay loop I targeted is a vehicle that has difficulty turning but has the speed and weight to be a tough opponent up close. This vehicle would be a solid sidescraper and excellent rammer but would have to sacrfice its autocannon burst damage to do so. Its armor is 95mm across the hull and superstructure making it highly vulnerable when caught out of position. This should create a risky vehicle that wants to throw its weight at targets but risks being outmaneuvered and outgunned when an opponent can avoid being hit with both turrets.

[robust ravine]

Grot Tank (T4 Light)

Capable of utilizing different existing weapons like the 3in Howitzer Mk1, 37mm T16, 2cm Flak38, 3cm Mk103 along with their gun/turret stat packages.

Top Speed 62/20
Hull Rotation 44
Terrain Resistance 0.9/1/1.7
Horsepower 400
Weight 18t
HPT 22.22

Health 520
Camo 319/319
View Range 380
Fire Chance 20%

Overall the hull should feel a bit like a gangly ramshackle Stuart with some spaced armor junk tossed on top and plenty of wacky dakka. Would make an excellent vehicle to just give away to players or to use in an event mode.

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If all were added this would bring us to a total of:
1 Tier 4
1 Tier 8
1 Tier 9
4 Tier 10s (+Leman Russ Turret Option)
4 Era 2s
5 Era 3s

Or in other words 7 WW2 and 9 CW vehicles. There are still plenty of vehicles that could be added beyond what I have put in this thread so please feel free to suggest more vehicles here and I will update the list.

[robust ravine]

Updated posts to include module damage.

[full quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X13Tgb36E_k

i saw this one ages back. Sry if its above

[robust ravine]

[nimble anchor]

Dude thinks we can get quality new content and not resales

[full quail]

Not even such what that TDs/arty are. I think they talon exclusive

various russ were easy.

[robust ravine]

New Warhammer Tanks

[iron spindle]

Unfortunately any warhammer tank that doesn’t have a ballistic primary weapon is simply a non starter.

The nemesis is as close as you’re gunna get to a laser

[pallid stone]

Ork nut

[restive vault]

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