The auto load clip on the Thrungva needs to be increased to 4 rounds. 3 round auto clip just is not cutting it. Would like to see the clip reload be 1 round at a time. Each round would take 7.5 seconds to load until you have a full clip. You can also shoot while reloading so you're not defenceless. This would make this tank much better.
#Thrungva clip increase
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This
Is wild
Wanting an autoreloader is already crazy enough
But now you've turned it into the most overpowered Heavy in Era 1
7.5 seconds is faster than the IS-4M and M103A1 fully kitted out
The tank has 430 alpha, so it'd easily out DPM basically anything
The Kranvagn finally gets to live out it's hopes and dreams 🙏
Bruh it does 430 ×3 =1290 average burst damage it's fine
If it had 4 rounds it do a average of 1720
The IS 4s are still better overall. However 3 clip size was well balanced.
Its 7.5 seconds per shell and adding 1 more shell to make it 4 rounds instead of 3. Total reload for 4 shells sould be 30 seconds.
Your suggestion looks like an autoreloader capable of 3440 dpm when firing empty. Fully equipped single shot heavies of the era are at or below that threshold. Do you see where the problem lies in allowing a tank to dump 1720 damage in 9 seconds and then still have nearly best in class dpm?
You are asking for your Kranvagn to reload faster than my T95E3 does, with a bigger gun and additional rounds in the clip for security?
That does not seem remotely balanced
Era1 amx40 effectively 
I’ve been playing it…needs higher penetration values on all 3 round types.
The t10 version is better
No sense in why to play worse version
It has a smidge of higher dpm but the t10 has better clip potential and I rather take that
Is4,m103,4005 is still way better
I love the CW one alot more. The lesser clip is for balance.
103 no, Is4 depends, 4005 come on of course its still the best.
Kinda sucks ngl
103 is better overall when being a heavy due to side armor
Opinion, if you use it right its great, lots of 6,000 plus games. 103 is not better to me. I actually dislike the 103 the most. Ill take some side loss for superior situational armor.
Fair but keep in mind every tank has weakness even on the turret
Yup, rarely have that problem. Even block 4005 shots consistently. So its my new favorite.
If premium spam wasn't a thing, front turret penns wouldn't happen.
it’s meant for hull down.
What im asking is for an increase to 4 rounds, load each round seperately, not all at once, like the Italian ww2 tanks. First round loads in x amount of time, 2 round loads x ammount of time and so onuntil you get the last round loaded. This will inable you to shoot while the reload is taking place so you're not defenceless while waiting for a full reload to take placs as it is now.
Have you not played an Autoloader before?
The defenselessnees during a reload is part of the whole package. It's a balancing feature.
You're asking for it to be changed to an autoreloader and for the reload to be lowered per shot. That is not balanced.
The times i put are just examples for what it could be. Not suggesting a 4 round auto loader with 15 second reload time. It can be done and be balanced, look at the Bisconte C 45 in ww2. It can be done and balanced. And yes i've played autoloaders before. I have several of them.
What your suggesting would make it the new op tank that would be unstoppable. You can already sit behind a hill and be almost unkillable. That would make it way to strong in era 1. Remember armor doesn't exist in CW. So almost every shot you take should penn. If aiming properly.
Not with a 25.5 sec reload
You said each round loads separately. So it would never be 25.5 unless you wait for all ammo.
That is what the reload time is now, if it goes up to 4 rounds, reload time will increase. The only help on reload you get is from the comander perk and that takes it down to 21.75. Add one more round and reload each round seperately. At least you'll not be a sitting duck while reloading.
Again your ignoring the most important thing. YOU will never wait the full reload unless it was convenient. Taking away the sitting duck balance of it. That tank would be too good if it can just shoot non stop plus have extra if they waited long enough.
Even a medium with that ability would be destructive in era 1.
Armor is to weak.
The Bisonte has significantly longer reloads than an equivalent single shot tank. You are asking for a shorter reload on top of the clip capacity.
Autoreloaders must have the longest equivalent reload out of the reload types, as they offer the greatest flexibility.
Read what i said, the times for reload are examples, not what i want. It would have to be adjusted accordingly for a 4 round clip. And you're missing the point. Im saying 4 rounds, not 3, with the ability to shoot while reloading like the Biscante C 45. Reload time would need to be adjusted accordingly.
The 25.5 reload is what it is cutrently, without the commander perk, with the perk, its 21.6
What do you think would be a fair reload time, per shot, for an autoreloading Thrungva?
Because if you haven't seen, the fully upgraded M103A1 reloads in 11.3 seconds base. Your 7.5 second figure would completely invalidate that.
Have to watch what i say, i dont want to get banned from st. Like i said the times were an example, not asking for each round to be 7.5 sec reload. So say for 4 rounds its 35 seconds, divide that by 4 and you get a reload of 8.75 sec per round until you get to 35 seconds. Now drop that by 10% for the commander perk and you get a total reload for 4 rounds of 31.5 seconds for 4 rounds. Plus you would be able to shoot after the first round is loaded. This is what im talking about. Even at 30 seconds for all 4 rounds, your talking 7.5 seconds per round for a total of 30 second full reload and again the ability to shoot after tbe first round is loaded.
And with the commander perk, it would be 27 seconds for full reload. How is that making this tank op for era 1?
Even with those numbers, that would make it have a shorter reload than the M103A1. I know, 430 alpha compared to 450 alpha, but an autoreloading Thrungva should be sitting at an individual shot reload at least 12 seconds, likely 13+. Per shot.
Compare your Bisonte with other 360 alpha tier VIII heavies, or other autoreloaders with their peers.
Ok, what about the char 25 ton, has a 6 round clip and a 23.04 reload time or the chat 40 ton, also 6 round clip and a reload time of 22.61 seconds. Strictly talking reload times. One more round and making it be able to shoot the first round when its loaded, is not going to make that much of a difference in era 1.
Those two are 90mm guns, and they're autoloaders. Not autoreloaders.
The Char 40t has a reload of 35.1 seconds base with the 100mm.
The Char 40 and 25 have half the alpha too.
and doesn’t have any armor too.
This tanks already insanely good and really doesn't need anything different.
Mobility is great and travels 69kph easily.
Turret armour is godly combined with fantastic 12 degrees of GD.
And the reload for the clip is quick enough that your really not out of the game for long at all.
Only bad point is that the guns derpy at range.
Plays like a Hulldown medium more than what you'd call a traditional 'heavy'
Get in, clip, get out
just hide lowerplate, and it’s already almost impossible to hit cupolas.
It's not hard to hit actually
Definitely looking forward to picking it up this weekend 
if you are shooting this thing at 300m away, it will be not that easy to hit.
especially when you are using derpy tanks like 4005.
When in doubt he it out
HE is doing nothing to 225mm thick armor.
you have to shoot upper plate to actually do something.
I wonder if anything can pen it's 9 inches of turret armor when it's using it's 12 depression 🤔
Might have to test it this weekend throwing the strongest rounds at it
Talking strictly reload, not alpha, not anything else but reload and adding 1 more round to the clip and having the reload reload 1 round at a time untill all rounds are loaded and being able to shoot while reloading.
You cant ignore the dmg increase because thats the MAIN reason why what you're talking about would be an issue.
Thats like saying a pistol can shot 6 rounds so snipers should shoot 6 times but faster.
It wouldnt be any faster than any of the autoloaders in the game and all your doing is adding one more round to the clip.
No, stop with the games. You said it would load each round individually. Plus the 4th round. I wont repeat myself a third time. The load each round plus an extra is what would make the tank to much. Speed has nothing to do with it because YOU said individual loading of rounds. That means however long it is you still get a round faster then the other top heavies, plus you can have extra in the clip. Thats way too much. Unless its about that plz stop replying about reload speed.
Once again it would do 1720 clip damage if it had a 4th round currently it does 1290 which is fine
Everyone else was on my back about it. So i put times in for the reload speed. I think it would be a better tank with 4 rounds and loading each round individually, so you can shoot while reloading, jt was do in ww2 and no one complained about it, so why complain when someone suggests it for era 1?
1st because that ability is tank specific. No other auto loader type tanks both in CW and WW2 have this ability. I also made the point of in ww2 you cant always guarantee penns so auto loaders aren't to much. However in CW any tank should penn as long as you aim for the most part. So having the most overpowered kind of autoloader on a heavy tank with high alpha and your giving it an extra round is how you end up with weisels and ELCs.
Might aswell give all tanks that ability. Why single shot ever again.
So no. Bad idea IMO
The Kranvagn in WWII is an Autoloader, not an Autoreloader. Intraclip reloading is not a feature of that tank.
The Italian line in ww2 has that ability at tier 8 and 10.
Yes only that line. What dont you understand about that. Tank specific?
If they add Italian tanks you may see that in CW.
What dont you understand about what im asking for?
Your asking for a tank to get something it never had.
You cant just give tanks special guns and load types. More so with real tanks.
I understand you perfectly.
It's just what you're asking for will make the tank disgustingly overpowered, when it's already rather excellent
So lets say hypotheticaly if you just added one more round to the clip and made it a 4 round autoloader and increased the reload time to 30 or so seconds for 4 rounds without the individual reload, you would be fine with that as long as it didnt have the individual round reload?
Idk how many times we need to mention it dosen't need a extra shell in the magazine
430×3 =1290
You can clip out 50% of everything's hp bar pretty easily with it
If it had a 4th shell it could clip out some tanks
I dont think so
4 or 3 Im indifferent but 3 was the more balanced choice.
Literally some tanks don't got 1800 hp
All the starter tanks would be in potential danger of getting clipped out
All the light tanks would be as well
Those tanks also already struggle to kill it.
Unless you cant find a good position that tank is very strong.
If it had 400 alpha it could easily have the 4th round
But since they gave it a extra 30 alpha per shell a 4th would be ridiculous
Mabey if they do a TT line they can lessen the alpha and give 4 rounds.
That wouldn't be very fair to the tt version if that happens
That's the crux of the issue, yes.
That individual reload would've given it a quicker reload than the existing 120mm Era 1 heavies.
Now, I disagree about it needing that fourth round anyway, but the autoreloading mechanic was the big issue here.
Ah I see. didnt do the math. However they dis on TT anyways so its the expected result these days.
It would do a extra 520 damage on average
I suggested it because of what i have seen in game while playing it
That 30 extra alpha adds up very fast
You just git to adapt. I still get 6,000 to 8,000 games with just 3 and thats crazy good for Era 1
Congratiulations on your good games.
Personally never played the tier10 version but I do like autoloader tanks and especially tanks with really good depression
A good player can change a game as it is now. Im not even that good Compared to the top players.
I had bad experiences in my Emil so Im glad its so good in CW
Only thing i can see that's objectively bad about the era1 krangvang is it's moving gun handling and raw accuracy
Imigine a 3 stack platoon of them. Its very tough to deal with.
Agreed, I think to force campers to not just sit with it.
1290×3=3870
It would have been awful if all people did was sit in the back of the maps hoping to never get shot.
Some still do. Even with bad accuracy.
That's a lot of damage every 20ish seconds
Yup
It’s fast for a heavy as well
Full speed build it goes 69
It’s quick
Faster, actually
I was playing the 107 the other day and one was almost keeping up with me
I was surprised how fast it is
Considering how fast the 107 is, the Thrungva is probably a bit too fast
It's literally less damage than the tt version
Does the tier10 version do more burst damage?
The ww2 TT
Different mode.
The tt has a 400 alpha but 430 is isn't really better if it's got 3 rounds and not 4
Yeah so why play a worse version
We just proved with Math how wrong that is.
I hate tier 10 ww2 and its very fun in CW without all the ww2 teir 10 meta.
Different mode fir one thing 2nd it's a premium tank
Clip potential is is more useful
Debatable
Not everyone cares to grind out a entire tt to just play it
I also hate not having TV
So it's a worse version at least they can do is copy and y
How's it worse ?
Fair point but still
Much worse clip potential
Does the IS 4 have the same stats no.
Close to it actually armor wise and alpha
Consider the placement of the era1 version if it had 4 shells it do 1720 damage that's to much
This seems a hot topic.
Really isn't just people want it more powerful then it already s for some reason
Oh. I see.
It would be fine with that
I shall return to silently seething that we cant just earn the damn things.
Bruh it could potentially clip out starter tank,s some td,s and all the lights that's not balanced
The FV4005 was balanced with more speed but less concealment.
Yeah why only unrelated tanks.
This versions better, same armour, Much Quicker, similar gun handling, Faster reload of clip with slightly higher alpha which matches era 1
I was so excited to have a gen 1 kranvagn.
Same!
Its my new Fav Era 1 tank.
its an absolute beast
I wouldn't be opposed to the reward
If it wasn't a NM 116
They hand those things out like hotcakes
Yup, why do they hate us players.
Yeah I already have both versions of it so I'm choosing the tier8 version because it gives a extra 600k silver 
Hope yiu can get it. Mabey some lucky chests feom the event. If yiu cant afford it.
Nah I'm not buying them
Even with free gold?
I'll be fine with the 5 total chests from the event
Well thats why I save all the gold I get. For stuff like this.
You dont get much but it adds up.
More so when your lucky.
I guess I'll get the cold war version. I don't have that.
I wont be getting the Mjornir tank. Way overpriced.
I save gold as well but I used it to buy the ultimate pass for this season so I got like 200 gold atm lol
Yeah, I understand that the 490 was well worth rhe gold.
Losing out on damage from a clip isn't a win in my book
Honestly I had to get it seeing how well it performed in battles
It's a variant of the strf 9040 but with a 120mm gun
you get in and get out quicker which helps it with the speed of era 1.
CV90120? neat
Its called balanced. If you cant understand the differences between Ww2 and CW by now. Stats need to be different as it is now.
U realize that the 4005 1-2 shots everything right and somehow people consider that balanced
Have you marked the thrungva yet petty?
It isn't balanced
Never said it was
No I said the stat changes were for balance plz read.
In my opinion the fv4005 shouldn't be in era1
That wasn't for u
But anyways back to the topic
Plz read
not yet, had to be playing the others. Played 18 in it so far, managed near 11k game in it lol, avg nearly 5.8k so far.#1270303828498976868 message
Damn nice 👌
I did watch your video on it thing rips 
Wow 11k in Era 1 thats amazing.
I do wonder if anything can penatrate the turret when it's using it's 12 depression
So much for my dreams of 3 marking mine.
268 HEAT will, not much else can tho
So besides that it's practically invulnerable when using it's depression 
Watch your sides even a slight angle can get you shot.
The hull has 70mm so it can somewhat side scrap
I ment turret sides.
Oh that yeah
You can still 3 mark it relatively, if you where gold marking yeah that would be tough given the numbers above for Pineapple.
Ive yet to 3 mark a tank. 2 is the highest I have achieved. 93 was my closest with the 4005.
or you can just get higher 💪
Im trying thats for sure.
You can do it!!
I'll get mine one day and try to 1 mark it 🙂
what does the mark look like ? a skull?
I think itll be the yellow line like most Swedish tanks. Could be wrong.
It's indy though, I was thinking the yellow line too, so it put me to skull.
Indy?
No no they are both Independent.
really both?
The STRV is independent but has its country's mark.
Crap I was right initially, I put my Freyja in WA for the points, that's what threw me off.
Yeah I just didnt recognize Indy as independent.
I was to lazy to type it out.
I understand. I hate texting. Atleast on this small screen.
I hope they give it axes for viking as marks, skulls are cool too
Saddly axes are already Japans moe
those are in red, these can be in yellow or white
Fair, not sure why certain marks look the way they do anyways. Like why a red star for both China and Russia.
The Swedish cw tanks are independent
The thrungva is a Swedish tank but for some reason the era3 light is a mercenary tank
Thrungva is just the Kran which is swedish. The Mjolnir is a merc tank as its the STRF hull and UDES 15/16 Turret and gun.
Oh it's a hybrid tank didn't know that
Thought it was just the strf 9040 with a 120mm lol
Is the Mjolnir worth the price?
So any guesses what line will be incoming in CW? in the future
CW Artillery.
guided artillery 😆
Yup you just get to fly the shot around the map.
sounds like fun especially with TV
It's like guaranteed pen every shot, since tanks are weakest up top.
The ammount of nerf requests would be insane.
no
I have three ideas of what's next
#1 Italian tt
#2 Swedish tt
#3 the t-64 tt
Considering we have gotten quite a few Swedish tanks for cw recently I'd assume it's next
Yup thought so TY.
Swedish would make sense. Have alot of premiums already. Need some free options.
is the Thrungva good?
Its my new fav for Era 1. If you use it properly you can easily guarantee 3,000 games and get up to 11k games.
Block 4005 shots too and its fast for a heavy.
How much is it?
Thats hopeful lol
lol, oh it's good
Bought the tank yesterday and yeah it's fine the way it is pretty good actually if there's anything to actually complain about it's the accuracy and moving dispersion even then negligible
@livid birch did this guy got banned?
Yes he did
how
Said something wasn't supposed to
Oh wow did he really. Dang.
I sure am!
I'm going for marks on it to, one day.......lol
63% atm
0% 
Nah he got banned for having a joke which is a joke in itself
Was it a KKKlan like joke?
Why on earth would it be that
its best way to get banned
its hard to get ban in here since its has 40% more free speech than other discord servers
It’s not hard at all I’d say watch but I’m not thick enough to do it like that
What joke did he said
I’m not sure I just know he was messing around and got sanctioned for it
Hurry up and show that mark cause then i'll know what I have to look forward too!!! 👍
I'd assume the marks for it are whatever the Swedish ones look like
Yeah but I want to see it on the Thrungva, to insire me to get my 1 mark (and buy the tank).
Should be different for a god tank.................my opinion
Are you going to mark yours up?
At some point
Idk if I'm gonna start this season once I finish the nm-116 earn op hopefully today I'm taking the rest of the season off need a mental break from it
If your going to mark the nm-116 CW, don't do it during a TD contract/op, you get subbed in for a 4005 when there are lots of them in the in the game trying to complete the contract/op.
I have the nm-116 two marked
Was referring marking the thrungva probably not getting to that this season
gotcha, when you mentioned going for the nm-116 (I was think you might be marking it later).
I currently have two tanks 3 marked in era1 m103a1 and amx30a