#Thrungva clip increase

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placid nest
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The auto load clip on the Thrungva needs to be increased to 4 rounds. 3 round auto clip just is not cutting it. Would like to see the clip reload be 1 round at a time. Each round would take 7.5 seconds to load until you have a full clip. You can also shoot while reloading so you're not defenceless. This would make this tank much better.

plush merlin
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This

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Is wild

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Wanting an autoreloader is already crazy enough

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But now you've turned it into the most overpowered Heavy in Era 1

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7.5 seconds is faster than the IS-4M and M103A1 fully kitted out

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The tank has 430 alpha, so it'd easily out DPM basically anything

sudden vortex
livid birch
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Bruh it does 430 ×3 =1290 average burst damage it's fine

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If it had 4 rounds it do a average of 1720

north urchin
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The IS 4s are still better overall. However 3 clip size was well balanced.

placid nest
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Its 7.5 seconds per shell and adding 1 more shell to make it 4 rounds instead of 3. Total reload for 4 shells sould be 30 seconds.

chilly agate
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Your suggestion looks like an autoreloader capable of 3440 dpm when firing empty. Fully equipped single shot heavies of the era are at or below that threshold. Do you see where the problem lies in allowing a tank to dump 1720 damage in 9 seconds and then still have nearly best in class dpm?

ripe widget
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You are asking for your Kranvagn to reload faster than my T95E3 does, with a bigger gun and additional rounds in the clip for security?

That does not seem remotely balanced

livid birch
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Era1 amx40 effectively JUSTrip

placid spoke
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I’ve been playing it…needs higher penetration values on all 3 round types.

wide dust
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the tank is fine lol

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coping

final crow
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No sense in why to play worse version

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It has a smidge of higher dpm but the t10 has better clip potential and I rather take that

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Is4,m103,4005 is still way better

north urchin
north urchin
final crow
north urchin
# final crow Kinda sucks ngl

Opinion, if you use it right its great, lots of 6,000 plus games. 103 is not better to me. I actually dislike the 103 the most. Ill take some side loss for superior situational armor.

final crow
north urchin
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If premium spam wasn't a thing, front turret penns wouldn't happen.

teal wind
placid nest
ripe widget
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Have you not played an Autoloader before?
The defenselessnees during a reload is part of the whole package. It's a balancing feature.

You're asking for it to be changed to an autoreloader and for the reload to be lowered per shot. That is not balanced.

placid nest
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The times i put are just examples for what it could be. Not suggesting a 4 round auto loader with 15 second reload time. It can be done and be balanced, look at the Bisconte C 45 in ww2. It can be done and balanced. And yes i've played autoloaders before. I have several of them.

north urchin
placid nest
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Not with a 25.5 sec reload

north urchin
placid nest
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That is what the reload time is now, if it goes up to 4 rounds, reload time will increase. The only help on reload you get is from the comander perk and that takes it down to 21.75. Add one more round and reload each round seperately. At least you'll not be a sitting duck while reloading.

north urchin
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Again your ignoring the most important thing. YOU will never wait the full reload unless it was convenient. Taking away the sitting duck balance of it. That tank would be too good if it can just shoot non stop plus have extra if they waited long enough.

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Even a medium with that ability would be destructive in era 1.

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Armor is to weak.

ripe widget
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Autoreloaders must have the longest equivalent reload out of the reload types, as they offer the greatest flexibility.

placid nest
placid nest
ripe widget
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What do you think would be a fair reload time, per shot, for an autoreloading Thrungva?

Because if you haven't seen, the fully upgraded M103A1 reloads in 11.3 seconds base. Your 7.5 second figure would completely invalidate that.

placid nest
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Have to watch what i say, i dont want to get banned from st. Like i said the times were an example, not asking for each round to be 7.5 sec reload. So say for 4 rounds its 35 seconds, divide that by 4 and you get a reload of 8.75 sec per round until you get to 35 seconds. Now drop that by 10% for the commander perk and you get a total reload for 4 rounds of 31.5 seconds for 4 rounds. Plus you would be able to shoot after the first round is loaded. This is what im talking about. Even at 30 seconds for all 4 rounds, your talking 7.5 seconds per round for a total of 30 second full reload and again the ability to shoot after tbe first round is loaded.

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And with the commander perk, it would be 27 seconds for full reload. How is that making this tank op for era 1?

ripe widget
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Even with those numbers, that would make it have a shorter reload than the M103A1. I know, 430 alpha compared to 450 alpha, but an autoreloading Thrungva should be sitting at an individual shot reload at least 12 seconds, likely 13+. Per shot.
Compare your Bisonte with other 360 alpha tier VIII heavies, or other autoreloaders with their peers.

placid nest
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Ok, what about the char 25 ton, has a 6 round clip and a 23.04 reload time or the chat 40 ton, also 6 round clip and a reload time of 22.61 seconds. Strictly talking reload times. One more round and making it be able to shoot the first round when its loaded, is not going to make that much of a difference in era 1.

ripe widget
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Those two are 90mm guns, and they're autoloaders. Not autoreloaders.
The Char 40t has a reload of 35.1 seconds base with the 100mm.

north urchin
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The Char 40 and 25 have half the alpha too.

teal wind
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and doesn’t have any armor too.

gaunt stone
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This tanks already insanely good and really doesn't need anything different.
Mobility is great and travels 69kph easily.
Turret armour is godly combined with fantastic 12 degrees of GD.
And the reload for the clip is quick enough that your really not out of the game for long at all.
Only bad point is that the guns derpy at range.
Plays like a Hulldown medium more than what you'd call a traditional 'heavy'

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Get in, clip, get out

final crow
teal wind
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just hide lowerplate, and it’s already almost impossible to hit cupolas.

final crow
livid birch
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Definitely looking forward to picking it up this weekend PepeChad

teal wind
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especially when you are using derpy tanks like 4005.

teal wind
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HE is doing nothing to 225mm thick armor.

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you have to shoot upper plate to actually do something.

final crow
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It's just a kranv

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103 will do fine against it

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And others

livid birch
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I wonder if anything can pen it's 9 inches of turret armor when it's using it's 12 depression 🤔

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Might have to test it this weekend throwing the strongest rounds at it

placid nest
north urchin
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Thats like saying a pistol can shot 6 rounds so snipers should shoot 6 times but faster.

placid nest
north urchin
# placid nest It wouldnt be any faster than any of the autoloaders in the game and all your do...

No, stop with the games. You said it would load each round individually. Plus the 4th round. I wont repeat myself a third time. The load each round plus an extra is what would make the tank to much. Speed has nothing to do with it because YOU said individual loading of rounds. That means however long it is you still get a round faster then the other top heavies, plus you can have extra in the clip. Thats way too much. Unless its about that plz stop replying about reload speed.

livid birch
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Once again it would do 1720 clip damage if it had a 4th round currently it does 1290 which is fine

placid nest
north urchin
# placid nest Everyone else was on my back about it. So i put times in for the reload speed. I...

1st because that ability is tank specific. No other auto loader type tanks both in CW and WW2 have this ability. I also made the point of in ww2 you cant always guarantee penns so auto loaders aren't to much. However in CW any tank should penn as long as you aim for the most part. So having the most overpowered kind of autoloader on a heavy tank with high alpha and your giving it an extra round is how you end up with weisels and ELCs.

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Might aswell give all tanks that ability. Why single shot ever again.

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So no. Bad idea IMO

ripe widget
placid nest
north urchin
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Yes only that line. What dont you understand about that. Tank specific?

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If they add Italian tanks you may see that in CW.

placid nest
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What dont you understand about what im asking for?

north urchin
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You cant just give tanks special guns and load types. More so with real tanks.

ripe widget
north urchin
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You have two people attempting to clarify that with you.

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Plz try and understand.

placid nest
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So lets say hypotheticaly if you just added one more round to the clip and made it a 4 round autoloader and increased the reload time to 30 or so seconds for 4 rounds without the individual reload, you would be fine with that as long as it didnt have the individual round reload?

livid birch
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Idk how many times we need to mention it dosen't need a extra shell in the magazine

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430×3 =1290

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You can clip out 50% of everything's hp bar pretty easily with it

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If it had a 4th shell it could clip out some tanks

placid nest
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I dont think so

north urchin
livid birch
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Literally some tanks don't got 1800 hp

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All the starter tanks would be in potential danger of getting clipped out

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All the light tanks would be as well

north urchin
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Those tanks also already struggle to kill it.

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Unless you cant find a good position that tank is very strong.

livid birch
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If it had 400 alpha it could easily have the 4th round

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But since they gave it a extra 30 alpha per shell a 4th would be ridiculous

north urchin
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Mabey if they do a TT line they can lessen the alpha and give 4 rounds.

livid birch
ripe widget
north urchin
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Why it would have higher dpm if you penn all 4?

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Depending on the alpha.

livid birch
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400×4=1200 430×4=1720

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Big difference

north urchin
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Ah I see. didnt do the math. However they dis on TT anyways so its the expected result these days.

livid birch
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It would do a extra 520 damage on average

placid nest
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I suggested it because of what i have seen in game while playing it

livid birch
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That 30 extra alpha adds up very fast

north urchin
placid nest
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Congratiulations on your good games.

livid birch
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Personally never played the tier10 version but I do like autoloader tanks and especially tanks with really good depression

north urchin
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A good player can change a game as it is now. Im not even that good Compared to the top players.

north urchin
livid birch
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Only thing i can see that's objectively bad about the era1 krangvang is it's moving gun handling and raw accuracy

north urchin
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Imigine a 3 stack platoon of them. Its very tough to deal with.

north urchin
livid birch
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1290×3=3870PepeChad

north urchin
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It would have been awful if all people did was sit in the back of the maps hoping to never get shot.

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Some still do. Even with bad accuracy.

livid birch
north urchin
sour idol
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It’s fast for a heavy as well

livid birch
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Full speed build it goes 69

sour idol
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It’s quick

livid birch
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If you put prem gas as well probably goes like 73

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Pretty nuts for era1

ripe widget
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Faster, actually

sour idol
livid birch
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Lol

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Nothing more terrifying then having a 120mm autoloader chasing you

sour idol
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I was surprised how fast it is

ripe widget
final crow
livid birch
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Does the tier10 version do more burst damage?

north urchin
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Different mode.

final crow
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The tt has a 400 alpha but 430 is isn't really better if it's got 3 rounds and not 4

final crow
north urchin
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We just proved with Math how wrong that is.

north urchin
livid birch
final crow
north urchin
livid birch
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Not everyone cares to grind out a entire tt to just play it

north urchin
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I also hate not having TV

final crow
livid birch
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How's it worse ?

final crow
final crow
north urchin
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Does the IS 4 have the same stats no.

final crow
livid birch
west belfry
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This seems a hot topic.

north urchin
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Close is not the same

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Just like this new tank its close but not the same.

livid birch
west belfry
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Oh. I see.

west belfry
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I shall return to silently seething that we cant just earn the damn things.

livid birch
north urchin
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The FV4005 was balanced with more speed but less concealment.

north urchin
gaunt stone
west belfry
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I was so excited to have a gen 1 kranvagn.

north urchin
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Its my new Fav Era 1 tank.

gaunt stone
west belfry
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I wouldn't be opposed to the reward

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If it wasn't a NM 116

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They hand those things out like hotcakes

livid birch
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I really want it

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I've been waiting for a era1 heavy autoloader

north urchin
livid birch
north urchin
livid birch
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Nah I'm not buying them

north urchin
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Even with free gold?

livid birch
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I'll be fine with the 5 total chests from the event

north urchin
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Well thats why I save all the gold I get. For stuff like this.

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You dont get much but it adds up.

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More so when your lucky.

west belfry
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I guess I'll get the cold war version. I don't have that.

north urchin
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I wont be getting the Mjornir tank. Way overpriced.

livid birch
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I save gold as well but I used it to buy the ultimate pass for this season so I got like 200 gold atm lol

north urchin
final crow
west belfry
livid birch
gaunt stone
west belfry
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CV90120? neat

north urchin
final crow
livid birch
livid birch
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Never said it was

north urchin
livid birch
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In my opinion the fv4005 shouldn't be in era1

final crow
livid birch
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But anyways back to the topic

final crow
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Plz read

north urchin
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So

gaunt stone
livid birch
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I did watch your video on it thing rips PepeChad

north urchin
livid birch
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I do wonder if anything can penatrate the turret when it's using it's 12 depression

north urchin
gaunt stone
livid birch
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So besides that it's practically invulnerable when using it's depression JUSTsussy

north urchin
livid birch
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The hull has 70mm so it can somewhat side scrap

north urchin
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I ment turret sides.

livid birch
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Oh that yeah

fickle whale
north urchin
fickle whale
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or you can just get higher 💪

north urchin
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Im trying thats for sure.

fickle whale
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You can do it!!

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I'll get mine one day and try to 1 mark it 🙂

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what does the mark look like ? a skull?

north urchin
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I think itll be the yellow line like most Swedish tanks. Could be wrong.

fickle whale
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It's indy though, I was thinking the yellow line too, so it put me to skull.

north urchin
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Indy?

fickle whale
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wait, it's western alliance my bad.

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Mjolnir is independent

north urchin
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No no they are both Independent.

fickle whale
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really both?

north urchin
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The STRV is independent but has its country's mark.

north urchin
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Comfirmed both independent

fickle whale
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Crap I was right initially, I put my Freyja in WA for the points, that's what threw me off.

north urchin
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Yeah I just didnt recognize Indy as independent.

fickle whale
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I was to lazy to type it out.

north urchin
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I understand. I hate texting. Atleast on this small screen.

fickle whale
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I hope they give it axes for viking as marks, skulls are cool too

north urchin
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Saddly axes are already Japans moe

fickle whale
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those are in red, these can be in yellow or white

north urchin
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Fair, not sure why certain marks look the way they do anyways. Like why a red star for both China and Russia.

livid birch
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The Swedish cw tanks are independent

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The thrungva is a Swedish tank but for some reason the era3 light is a mercenary tank

gaunt stone
livid birch
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Oh it's a hybrid tank didn't know that

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Thought it was just the strf 9040 with a 120mm lol

north urchin
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Is the Mjolnir worth the price?

fickle whale
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So any guesses what line will be incoming in CW? in the future

north urchin
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CW Artillery.

fickle whale
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guided artillery 😆

north urchin
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Yup you just get to fly the shot around the map.

fickle whale
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sounds like fun especially with TV

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It's like guaranteed pen every shot, since tanks are weakest up top.

north urchin
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The ammount of nerf requests would be insane.

gaunt stone
livid birch
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Considering we have gotten quite a few Swedish tanks for cw recently I'd assume it's next

north urchin
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Swedish would make sense. Have alot of premiums already. Need some free options.

gentle cypress
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is the Thrungva good?

north urchin
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Its my new fav for Era 1. If you use it properly you can easily guarantee 3,000 games and get up to 11k games.

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Block 4005 shots too and its fast for a heavy.

final crow
wide dust
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someone gift me this tank and ill test if it's good 🙂

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@storm cave 🙂

north urchin
fickle whale
livid birch
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Bought the tank yesterday and yeah it's fine the way it is pretty good actually if there's anything to actually complain about it's the accuracy and moving dispersion even then negligible

gentle cypress
livid birch
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Yes he did

gentle cypress
livid birch
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Said something wasn't supposed to

north urchin
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Oh wow did he really. Dang.

livid birch
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Yeah

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But anyways might have to go for marks on the thrungva

north urchin
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I sure am!

fickle whale
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I'm going for marks on it to, one day.......lol

north urchin
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63% atm

livid birch
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0% PepeChad

sharp nymph
gentle cypress
sharp nymph
gentle cypress
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its hard to get ban in here since its has 40% more free speech than other discord servers

sharp nymph
gentle cypress
sharp nymph
fickle whale
livid birch
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I'd assume the marks for it are whatever the Swedish ones look like

fickle whale
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Yeah but I want to see it on the Thrungva, to insire me to get my 1 mark (and buy the tank).

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Should be different for a god tank.................my opinion

fickle whale
livid birch
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At some point

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Idk if I'm gonna start this season once I finish the nm-116 earn op hopefully today I'm taking the rest of the season off need a mental break from it

fickle whale
livid birch
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I have the nm-116 two marked

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Was referring marking the thrungva probably not getting to that this season

fickle whale
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gotcha, when you mentioned going for the nm-116 (I was think you might be marking it later).

livid birch
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I currently have two tanks 3 marked in era1 m103a1 and amx30a