Regiments: The Latest Dev Update

[pseudo shell]

Commanders!

Today we gave you an update into Development of Regiments. You can read more about this here: https://wotma.gg/DevDiary-Regiments

And this thread is for all your comments, questions, suggestions etc that may still be lingering.

Finally, it is important to note that this is a Multi Staged Update, what you see in the Dev Diary is only the beginning

[sour badge]

It’s rare, but I’m happy. Best news I’ve heard in a while.

[glad haven]

fact_true

[kindred brook]

will regiment challenges apply to co op mode too, asking as a regiment commander

[molten latch]

As I said on the stream, I think it’d be cool to see your regiment members platoons displayed on the member section of the regiment hq page

[tribal lantern]

Will there be a feature to allow existing clans to combine and combine resources? Or is everything just individualized for individuals within the group.

Also, items like tanks should NOT be exclusive to regiments—at most just time delayed.

[wooden glen]

And as I said in the stream, that request is already in the backlog of requests for future updates

[molten latch]

Cool, looking forward to it

[gilded onyx]

Rare good news. It's about time clans got some purpose. I'm looking forwards to regiment exclusive rewards

[sinful panther]

With any Regiment Camo, please make sure there is a realistic option for CW. I really don't like to use the neon camos in CW.

Some Regiments will only play or focus on CW. There should suitable camos for them.

If it is a set (4 camo environments), the camo should have a white version for winter and sand colored version for desert. Summer and Urban can be the same. I would simply apply a color filter to the camo or swap out a key color to create a winter or desert version.

[quiet oasis]

@wooden glen will the amount of members you can have in a regiment stay the same as clans? I have like 7 clans, 4 are full with 100 each so will I be able to combine them into 1

[wooden glen]

There is no plan to change the cap of 100 players in a clan at this point

this is more of a server capacity traffic load reason - fetching presense data for say 500 because they are all part of a single clan is more expensive than fetching it for 100 people

[quiet oasis]

I’m glad tbh moving so many people would be a headache, thanks for fast response, appreciate it

[royal stratus]

The "Regiment Daily Missions". It looks like a single "Clan/Regiment" member earns the new tokens. Question, Can this be earnt playing in non-platoon battles? i.e. You are a member of a Regiment, but you are playing by yourself in PvP or Coop modes. Question, the daily missions, are they the same as the current Weekly missions? Does a Regiment member now have access to 3 daily, 7 weekly missions (like we have now which is 28 a week) plus Additional/Extra Regiment ones, so 5 x7 =35, a total of 63 a week for Regiment members (of which only 35 count for the new tokens).

[sinful panther]

They said there can be a regiment of one.

[royal stratus]

👍. Thanks and the missions?

[sinful panther]

They said they were personal missions so that bigger regiments don't have an advantage over smaller ones.

[cunning wolf]

Great info on regiments 👍🏻 It's great that after almost 2 years since we first heard about clan functions, they are now within reach. But WG needs to understand that these functions are crucial for the game; every other WG game really has them. All resources must be put into making sure they appear as quickly as possible. What makes me suspicious again is this addition "we will integrate these functions over the course of the year...". No WG, it has already taken far too long, do everything you can to ensure that this is done completely in the next 2 updates and not a few parts here and there which then takes ages to form a complete whole! Please get your act together and finally give the game back the full competitive possibilities it has to offer, as these were already part of WoT before the 0.6 update! I think I speak for all clan players in saying they're really excited for clans to finally have a bigger role in the game.

P.S. Clan battles should offer the option to play in tiers 6, 7, 8, 9, or 10. Simply so that tiers 7 and 9 get more attention and new tactical options and variety in tanks are introduced.

[calm spear]

Clans been renamed Regiments, feed back.
I don't think this will gel with most players as it sounds like I'm a real soldier, yes sir two bags full sir to me and clan is just so much easier.
The new currency Regiment coin or Regi/Regt coin yep ok i guess.
Squadrons would be a better choice of name than Regiments imo but still no better than clans. Also Squid could be it's currancy (UK slang for pounds)

[calm spear]

I think its great news that you will be introducing these new features for clans 100%.
Can i ask that new rolls within clans are also considered such as Trainer or coach for example. Someone to bring along the new guys or improve the veterans like me.
Within these updates you will have lots of opportunites to improve players experiences within clans and it sould not be a missed opportunity.
Im sure there are other rolls people could suggest.

[calm spear]

Clan Rewards and one part I'm NOT ok with.
Bam said on the last stream "Buiding a clan is an ongiong process" and i agree 100%. But making it that the future clan rewards will be available to a clan of just one person is massive take away from the efforts of the clans that have grown beyond that.
A clan or Regiment should have at least 4 people Commander XO, RO and one Private before been eligible for rewards.

[delicate needle]

Too bad. Was hoping you'd raise the cap to at least 125.

[quartz dragon]

Hello i don't see regiment icon in game.😫

[pseudo shell]

Thats because this is a Development Update, not a Release Announcement

[quartz dragon]

Thank you. Sorry i misunderstanding this update. My mistake.

[pseudo shell]

Heads up: If you have any concerns/questions about Regiments, please leave them in this thread and we'll be looking to answer them on an upcoming stream

[cunning wolf]

My main concern lies solely in the fact that the statement "Over the course of the year..." We can't just release the version with the HQ features now, and then wait two or three or even four updates for the rest! Coins, clan battles, etc., need to follow as quickly as possible so that everything functions as a whole! Surely, as a serious developer, you can answer that more precisely. Don't get me wrong, I'm really excited about the announcement and the new features, but if it just plods along now, even more players will lose interest in the game before it really gets going! If all of that comes in the next two updates, that would be great, and we'd have a perspective.

[craggy hawk]

Don’t call me Shirley 😉

[tacit ridge]

In game clan features are a 10/10. Love the additional customization elements like mottos, traits, and banners as well.

On the topic of custom clan logos, I understand that verifying these would be difficult and a lot of extra work, but I think it is essential to the game. I think it also provides a huge monetization opportunity for WG as many clan commanders would be willing to pay large amounts of gold for this. My suggestion would just be to lock it behind a paywall. 3-5k gold would be sufficient enough imo to ward off bad actors from attempting to upload bad logos.

As for regiment battles, I am excited to hear this being discussed. my only feedback would be keep it casual but fun and meaningful. If I had to pick a format, I would say 5v5 battles at Tier 10 on a select set of standard battle maps: Airfield, Arctic Region, Cliff, Ensk, Ghost Town, Himmelsdorf, Live Oaks, Malkinovka, Mines, Murovanka, Prokhorovka, Redshire, Sand River, Steppes, and Westfield. Have a 10 minute timer. You could do 7v7 but 5v5 is more accessible imo. This is a different enough format from standard competitive tournaments that would still be fun and exciting to play. Have battles open at certain hours of the day for each server (maybe a weekend only thing).

Regiment coins and rewards sound interesting. I hope the camouflages are vibrant and aesthetically cool rather than just being a boring drab color reskin. I am a bit worried about the "exclusive" tanks that are available. I hope they are reskins (like current tier 10s with unique 3D styles) rather than completely new tanks. I have opposed PC clan wars reward tanks for the same reason though I guess these would be available for anyone, not just top clans.

Apart from that, a couple of other suggestions that I had before that haven't been addressed yet:

• Can we get more positions in the clan (ie commander, executive officer, etc.)? Both opening more positions for current titles but also new titles.
• It would be nice to have communal clan challenges that you work on as a clan. Currently doesnt seem to be any reason for clans to work together for a goal. Could have rewards like seasonal/yearly boosters.
• Will old clan tags from inactive and disbanded clans ever be usable again?

[quiet oasis]

100% agree with Kellen, I’d be willing to pay gold for my clans logo and take full responsibility for it.

The suggestions for Regimental battles are spot on too. Hopefully they can be a taster for people becoming more involved in tournaments.

[tribal lantern]

On clan logos:
It’s not clear if you are asking / expecting WG to make the logos or to create something to allow an upload.

Not to be a pessimist but more realistic…
5k gold —that’s like $20– for a customization to be made by WG specifically for a clan—a design an artist at WG must build into a game—to be used by most times by less than 10 people does not seem realistic.

Uploading means they would have to build a system first and then check the uploads.
Sorry but WG has not demonstrated the ability to check or proof anything (see guides, contest results, news articles, clan tags now), let alone have the manpower to do so now. Then there is the malicious virus upload issue and other bad actor issues.

To make it worth it for WG, the charge would need to be a lot for the manpower for a very unique customization—50k or 100k gold, but who is buying at that price?

They can’t even make 3D skins from PC viable for the price.

And then there is the issue of either WG making or allowing the upload of intricate designs and meeting player satisfaction for distortion—eg see warped camos etc. Just another headache they would need to dedicate resources to.

Far more likely and realistic for 5k gold is that you can have a set of premade and sized shapes like Halo and maybe they will auto populate the letters of the clan tag on there. Maybe if there is enough requests, they will add shapes that have high requests.

[tacit ridge]

Its very clear that I am asking to be able to upload logos. No, it is not unrealistic. There just needs to be an incentive to dedicate time to verification. You don't think $20 is enough for a couple of seconds of work to look at an image and decide if its suitable? Sounds like an easy money opportunity to me.

[glad haven]

omw to ask my pc friends what the clan logo upload system is like

[glad haven]

well ive sent that, but afaik personally its if u see an innapropriate one you report it

[tribal lantern]

Eh a couple seconds? You have more faith in their coding I guess. You would also need to have people to answer reports because even the best of systems miss things. And the subtle political things—not everyone is a news junkie. We don’t need any KKK or bucket of chicken garbage going on—It is bad enough with clan tags now. Just think for the price you are asking, it’s Halo shapes.

[tacit ridge]

small gold fee, think it was like 650 if I remember correctly, cant remember if there was a verification period or not

[glad haven]

ah ok

[glad haven]

if not everyone is a "news junkie" then it wouldnt matter, cuz only a small % would even get it

[tribal lantern]

Talking about the reviewers. WG has demonstrated many times they are not exactly up to date. They can’t be expected to know every news event around the world.

[glad haven]

??? what reviewers?

[tribal lantern]

The ones spending a “couple seconds”

[glad haven]

ohh

then it wouldnt matter, cuz only a small % would even get it

i dont get how it'd matter lol

[tribal lantern]

Oh no doesn’t matter at all…

Which explains why it has not been done and why it has been stated as such by WG previously.

[glad haven]

i mean i dont get how it would need to be removed

[tribal lantern]

Because most companies try to avoid fines, litigation, etc. Teen game on MS and Sony platform.

[glad haven]

eh ig it makes sense

[sour badge]

There is one major issue with the logos element.

If it used built-in layers, such as Forza or Black Ops…brilliant.

But so much as a font used on their IP can be a lot of legal issues,

[tacit ridge]

I just don't understand why it would be an issue in this game but its not in others though?

[sour badge]

Everything involves legal and licenses, it’s a cluster f of awaiting land mines and is a deterrent to a bunch of new ideas and features we’d benefit from

[tribal lantern]

Eh Black Ops iirc had a very bad bucket of chicken issue. Maybe that was Ghosts though. 🤔

If people can rotate shapes and resize—there are people out there that are absolutely brilliant in making beautiful art with it. Unfortunately people can also make ugly things the same way. Shapes have to be limited in rotating and resizing.

[hard wolf]

Will it be possible to invite clan mates to the squad right from the regiment list?

[glad haven]

Iirc yea

[crimson seal]

Does renaming clans to regiments impacts wargaming api scheme in any way?

[wooden glen]

we are changing some of the dossier stuff under the hood - not sure if any it will be external facing atm

[tacit ridge]

Disappointed that custom logos are no longer a possibility. I do think it would have been a great opportunity both for us to show off as well as a profit point for WG. Workload for reviewing submissions could have been mitigated with strict time gates and high costs to change or add a logo. Admittedly its one of the lowest priority features, but I do hope it gets revisited in the future.

As for stuff that is seemingly still on the table we have:

• Basic clan function (at launch)
• Banner customization elements (after launch; short term)
• Leaderboard (after launch: short term)
• Regiment Battles (after launch; long term)

My question is when will regiment coins and store arrive? Would be very nice to have that as an at launch item.

Also, it would be nice to see a bit more back and forth on these features that you are requesting feedback on. I was kinda hoping to see that this stream, but we didn't really get any new information that wasn't available 2 weeks ago.

[sinful panther]

I wasn't able to watch the Stream yesterday. I understand no custom logos and emblems.

I would like to be able to use existing emblems and inscriptions. (likely just non-licensed ones)

[wooden glen]

I'm fairly sure that BAM said that Regiment Coins and Store are launch features.

I remember distinctly saying in the stream that regiment coins are seasonal and will explicitly expire at the end of the season. So use 'em or lose 'em.

[tender flare]

The store and coins thing kinda reminds me of pc,s bond,s system

I'm assuming it's kinda similar to it

[gilded onyx]

Could be cool if tier 9-10s prems were enabled to earn those like PC to make up for their lack of other earnings

[tender flare]

Would actually make them useful for something for once

[wooden glen]

I suspect that the details of the system will be talked about in the near future...

[tacit ridge]

Thanks for the clarification.

[crimson seal]

actually there is already production issue with wg api service, at least on clan endpoint.
When you hit e.g.:
https://api-modernarmor.worldoftanks.com/wotx/clans/info/?application_id=<<app_id>>&clan_id=1073751696
array of members_ids is empty. Dont know if this is regiments related, still it'd be nice to have it fixed. I see undesired effect both on my own app as well as on wotstars.
Thx in advance for taking a look

[crimson cedar]

Don’t tell me….

WG clanLeaderboards, clan ids, wotstars clan data collection have all stopped working. My guess is this is for the new clan system?

I REALLY hope the plan isn’t for every leader to remake each tag as a new regiment and have every player reapply. If that’s the case my god it will be a disaster. People taking everyone else else’s tag as a meme, the loss of retired players on the old tags, needing to rebuy the tag and retag id also expect many people might just leave the game. So are we talking another 6.0 but much much worse?

This crap makes me paranoid….. the nightmares have started. Not asking for a information leak just some reassurance to ease my mind.

[royal stratus]

Update 6.0

[pseudo shell]

No, the plan is not for all to be remade once Regiments is complete. The plan is that all clans, become Regiments. No need to remake/spend the gold again etc

[crimson cedar]

🙏

[wooden glen]

I forwarded that issue to the people in charge of that system - I will update as required

[wooden glen]

Should be fixed now.

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