#Remove Ardennes from CW

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dusky tiger
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rain tinsel
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I have a better idea - absolutely remove all small maps from WWII that should never have been in Cold War. And best of all - remove all maps from WWII from CW mode.

dense shell
rain tinsel
dense shell
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Lots of people including me love most of those maps. Removing the maps will ruin CW and make the playerbase worse.

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Smaller maps are fine. Not every map needs to be big.

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What a crazy suggestion when CW is already repatative.

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Oh incase you didnt notice Era 1 and Era 2 has ww2 tanks in it.

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So mabey you can argue era 3 only but still less maps is bad.

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People need to stop asking for removal and ask for improvement. Removing stuff almost always ruins games.

dusky tiger
rain tinsel
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I definitely preferred the Cold War with only four starting maps, prepared especially for this mode. There is also a 5th fantastic training map with burning oil wells. And it definitely looks the best for the Cold War. And probably in the whole game... The 3rd era should be played exclusively on these 5 special maps. The 1st era can contain maps from the 2nd world war because there are many vehicles from tier 9 and 10 of the 2nd world war. However, the 2nd era should have only the largest maps from the 2nd world war plus these 5 for the 3rd era. I do not think that the more maps the better for players. And I do not think that fewer of them but better quality will cause monotony in the game.

dense shell
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Well I can tell you haven't played many games. Destiny tried that. Players hated it. Many examples of if there are too few maps you dont keep players. Game is boring with little to work towards.

rain tinsel
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WOT was not a stupid and fast shooter similar to many others. Until WOT significantly stood out from other online games, the player base grew quickly at the beginning and then remained at a constant level for years. It was WG's controversial decisions and drastic changes that discouraged long-time experienced players. Despite the merger of platforms, the number of players is constantly decreasing. Today's players come and go quite quickly because the game does not offer many challenges, apart from the increasing number of unbalanced maps and the constant introduction of premium vehicles. Those that are definitely too strong are expensive. And if there is a large group of complainers, they are changed a lot, which WG still pays off. These cheaper premium vehicles do not stand out in any way from the best. They only lose old premium vehicles and those from the technology tree. I completely do not understand the point of offering old and weak premium vehicles in very expensive packages? Players are still decreasing... despite the fact that the once unique and demanding game has become easy, fast and colorful... Oh yes, and Ardennes is probably the worst map in the history of WOT right now... Same for WWII as for CW. Especially with the current spawn points...

Tunnel/ bobsley maps in today's WOT are completely pointless.

dense shell
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Well, your opinion is noted. For cheap premiums. The EE and 490 are definitely top performers. If not the top performers. The game is dieing for sure but the maps are not the cause. Lots of other reasons. Many like the balance of small big and each has its own challenges. No map is good for every tank. Again removing content will not save this game it will kill it faster.

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Many of my friends were excited with the new ww2 map additions to CW. So thats already 12 people satisfied with that decision.

rain tinsel
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The problem of the falling popularity of WoT is not the number of maps, whether they are too big or too small, but their quality, balance and size inappropriate for CW. The problem, and the biggest one, is simply monotonous gameplay, without such great importance on how many maps, but the lack of activities such as those available on the PC version. The lack of a larger number of events as there was, for example, during Christmas. The lack of demanding challenges such as long haul. The lack of 7 vs 7 battles, etc. The lack of clan battles for provinces, assaults, etc. This is the source of boredom in this game and the reason for the departure of loyal players over the years. I played many online games and often after a few months I played on several maps. See Counter Strike for example. Several iconic maps for a dozen or so years.

dense shell
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You can even name ligit reasons why this game is dieing but then you talk maps and most people I know will disagree with you.

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Even in this thread to remove Ardennes more people disagree.

rain tinsel
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All the previously mentioned elements, their absence or major changes had an impact on the slow decline of this game and the departure of the best players' community. These reasons have existed either since the beginning of the console WOT (lack of clan functionality and clan events) or have arisen in recent years as a result of bad decisions. On the other hand, the lack of new maps adapted exclusively for the CW mode and the addition of maps from 2Ww, especially the very small ones, additionally discourage players from CW and the entire WOT game. And this process cannot be stopped. The game is falling faster and faster and only at the WISH OR RATHER the demand of WG itself. The lack of prospects for any improvement does not encourage spending money. Even profitable crates, which big players bought hundreds of, were destroyed... because having several hundred premium vehicles - collected for many years, they received a refund in gold, which they spent in the game and did not withdraw at an ATM... In addition, there is the technical condition of the game. No quick break for reported problems. No. last example with bots on 2 QW that shoot at undetected players... The problem has been there for months... Op premium tank tier 10 (1st in the history of the WOT tier 10 game with a bonus to earnings was destroyed after 2 months...) T249 WG "fixed" it in about 2 months. and they can't use bots for half a year.

rain tinsel
dense shell
rain tinsel
# dense shell Ah got to assume everyone that disagrees are lesser players. So common. Well you...

You don't have a Nick from the game on discord so I can't say how long you've been playing, what your level is, at least on your current account, so I don't know how much you know about the WOT game from a longer perspective. But I conclude that either you're not a good observer, or you can't draw conclusions from observations, or you simply have your own vision that is at odds with reality. And the reality is that there are more and more bots in battles, in every mode at every level of 2WW and the CW era. Whether you see it or not, it's like this and it's getting stronger. And on top of that, the bots on 2WW are broken... We really don't have anything to discuss any longer.

dense shell
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See again you have to degrade the other party to seem more correct. No point in continuing.

rain tinsel
dense shell
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I refuse to argue with arogance.

rain tinsel
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yep no poin to discuss...

sweet osprey
# rain tinsel https://www.wotstars.com/xbox/7768963

Lack of clan functionality and events.. my 450 player strong clan is proof that clans can do fine if effort is put in to them.
Events.. there’s a whole server dedicated to tournaments and playing competitively, it’s where all the best players STILL PLAY!

Why are you bringing up her stats?

Shall we talk about your 11k WN8 by stat padding in tier 4? No wonder you know all about OP bots 😂 Over 2500 battles in the M8A1, yeah
 I wouldn’t be trying to stat shame anyone if I were you.
You’ve also only had 1600 battles in CW and this post is about removing a map from CW.

What a load of nonsense

dusky tiger
mental yarrow
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Ardennes is terrible and turns into an early base cap 90% of the time I play it

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Constant base caps under 5 minutes with the majority of the lobby doing absolutely nothing

mental yarrow
dusky tiger
rain tinsel
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Stats paddingng... on random games made with WG MM?
You mad or what?
You use words whose meaning you don't understand...
JustKekU

Clone Battles are just training rooms and meetings there are organized by players themselves and there is nothing more to it. It has nothing to do with clan bits or the fortress from WOT PC. This event and functionality should be provided by WG. But they are too lazy and it seems a shame to give them some gold. But you can see that with such an approach of the players themselves, if you are doing so well, WG does not have to change anything. This is pathetic. Only one group gathered 45p players in clans who did nothing to make clan battles a part of the WOT CONSOLE game, and not just a private initiative... Seriously, there is nothing to brag about here...

dusky tiger
pallid torrent
rain tinsel
# dusky tiger Irrelevant to the threads subject

For me it is important that someone uses such arguments in my direction. As for the topic, only maps designed for CW mode should be available on the 3rd era. Removing only one map ARDENES (which is the worst map in WOT CONSOLE from 2WW) will not solve the problem of the remaining 2WW maps that are inappropriate for CW mode.

The 1600 battles that I supposedly have on CW are mostly on the first 4 maps. I was right not to research vehicles there because that is not how this mode was supposed to look. But if the majority likes it... then the majority can't be wrong, right? Most players on CW play like lemmings in a trance, driving without an idea and dying quickly. This is how senseless battles on CW currently look on maps from 2WW.

astral latch
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Ardennes is a faceplant right into zee cappos plums

sweet osprey
# rain tinsel Stats paddingng... on random games made with WG MM? You mad or what? You use wor...

There are wargaming sponsored events.. you can win prizes like tanks, gold, premium time, camo..

Not to mention all the independent tournaments that are driven by passionate players who want to create a competitive environment for tankers to enjoy, you can even win cash prizes in some of them.
If you’re going to take the post off topic, and if you’re going to stat shame someone by sharing their wot stars link (which by the way is against this discords rules) then at least be well informed and not rocking out in tier 4 yourself.

dusky tiger
rain tinsel
# sweet osprey There are wargaming sponsored events.. you can win prizes like tanks, gold, prem...

Does a link to a publicly available player statistics page violate Discord's rules? At what point? No one should be ashamed of their statistics. It's just a small determinant of whether someone can lead a discussion in a given topic or not. For me, what is organized outside the game doesn't matter. That's why clan membership itself is pointless. Such CLAN WARS functionality should be implemented in the game. You'll probably agree with me here? Only such a systemic organization makes it possible for all clan members to participate in it. when others have, for example, blocked vehicles after their matches. In the training room, you can organize many events, e.g. playing tag or hide-and-seek XD But this topic is not about that. This is a petition to remove one map from the CW mode.

rain tinsel
dense shell
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^this is why I didn't continue with him.

dusky tiger
rain tinsel
# dusky tiger Then clearly you can’t lead a discussion then if your saying that cause of your ...

I believe HELA, when she says I have 1600 battles on CW. I didn't count it 😄
I dont known where XD
I remember how great it was to play when the CW mode appeared and "only" four maps didn't interfere with the great fun. Supposedly 4 maps... But what maps they are, they are simply beautiful maps and then the additional one from the training mode with burning oil wells.. Oh and I also have other accounts, on one of them over another 10k, ~6000 battles on CW... But ok everyone can have their own opinion.
I dont like 2WW small maps on CW. Its my and only my opinion.
Now i dont like CW chaos... and dont play. Dont pay. Simple. Nev players era.

lucid spindle
rain tinsel
cloud valve
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Just remove standard battle from all CW versions of WW2 maps. They are too small and early caps actually ruin games.

eternal geode
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Remove Ardennes from CW and WW2 entirely. Worst map in game.

open anchor
open anchor
dense shell
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Was not a problem until that point.

dense shell
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This is why your blocked you say alot of false things.

open anchor
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👋

dense shell
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Again false comments.

open anchor
dense shell
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Incorrect I agrred with everything except removal of all ww2 maps from CW. Gave examples and my clan loving the new ww2 maps. Never degraded his opinion. Just didnt agree. Thats ok. Not everything needs to be Im 100% and your 100% correct. We are going to stay on those extremes. That doesnt make either side lesser. Until the other party starts saying otherwise.

dense shell
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I actually dont see many saying why thet hate adrennes. I get its small. However it has city and hills. Several choke points but, many places for fast tanks to flank.

dusky tiger
dense shell
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Sorry king I called them out in similar way in the past. We took it to DMs and solved it. Should stop.

dense shell
open anchor
dense shell
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The capping can be solved like one guy said by doing white cap and TD only.

dense shell
dense shell
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A good middle ground.

dusky tiger
dense shell
dense shell
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Province is one I cant defend. That map is awful