REMOVE Missiles from Cold War

[red zodiac]

Remove Cold war I would say… 😉

[white junco]

no reason to remove only special thing from this game everyonr who can would just change to pc

[hard kelp]

Remove 70+ km/h MBTS

Remove 700+ pen AP shells

Remove >700+ AP shells

[regal grove]

"Pls remove Cold war 😤😭"

[amber slate]

There not going to remove Cold War. If you don’t play Cold War why do you want it removed if you do play it stop and play WWll.

[glass parrot]

Can anyone provide like a bullet point list as to why?

[spark frost]

Sarcasm

[regal grove]

WTF What's your problem? There are quotation marks (" ") in the sentence and sarcastic emoticons.

[regal grove]

exactly

[glass ruin]

[amber slate]

I’m not sarcastic there are no quotations in my message. Those crying faces are not mine
So please get your facts straight before you make accusations on what I messaged.

[amber slate]

Before you jump on the wagon get your facts straight, there is no sarcasm in my message those crying faces are not mine.

[spark frost]

woosh

JV statement was sarcasm

[winter gull]

Remove cold war. Much better

[glass parrot]

@winter gull @red zodiac @grim delta as someone who has played cold war since the beginning it use to be much more balanced. Atgm tanks had "standard" light tank concealment. Not this stealth tech were are dealing with now. You can still get really good lobbies with fair fights and it's awesome but they keep getting more infrequent.

[red zodiac]

Lobbies filled up with bots because the queue is too small. In a pvp game I prefer playing against real people instead of bots. Tragic that a lot of players don’t realize that. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[spark frost]

The queue for cold war on any era isn't small and the only real way to get bot matches is if you play in early/late hours of the game unless you get that weird 1/1000 game where it just gives you a bot match without any time spending in the queue

Tho, who am I kidding

Your entire existence in this server is to hate on cold war

No matter what is said it's always gonna be you parroting the same nonsense

[red zodiac]

How big is the queue compared to ww2? Let me know

Maybe 100 to 30 people waiting?

[spark frost]

100 odd people on tanks that see different tiers so it has to account for a larger pool

[red zodiac]

In ww2 there are different tiers as well

And before 6.0 there was no bot lobbies

Fact

[spark frost]

Is that supposed to matter?

That's a feature, not an issue

[red zodiac]

In a pvp fighting bots is a feature?

[spark frost]

Yeah

It's called filling in space

Would be an issue if the game was actually "dying" like everyone and their mother has been saying for the past few years

[red zodiac]

You would like the time before the internet because you always fight against bots 😉

[spark frost]

What's that even supposed to mean

Come on, be direct

[red zodiac]

In a pvp game I want to play against real people not bots! Simple to understand right

[spark frost]

It's fair

But also necessary for bots to be in a match of need be

[red zodiac]

Why? They could also start with 10 vs 10 if needed

[spark frost]

Because 15 v 15 is a part of the foundation for the game

10 v 10 would be a nice mode

But don't ask me ask WG if you're so concerned about bots

[red zodiac]

I would not ask you bro to be honest 😉

[spark frost]

You asked me why

[quartz steeple]

Sorry to disappoint you, but even PVP games that sold to a massive audience have at least a few bots in matches, and they are getting smarter in those games, what is important is that they are decent enough for you to not notice them.

[red zodiac]

I made my point … thx

[red zodiac]

Which games?

[quartz steeple]

Call of Duty, Fortnite, Battlefield, etc. and most Battle royales out there have a few bots too, even War Thunder has a few, this is not a specific issue, it is part of the game industry.
Hell sometimes these bots are not made by the game studio but are actual player made bots.

[red zodiac]

True… but maybe is because of skilled matchmaking what we don’t have. I still don’t like bots in pvp. Good conversation thx

[regal grove]

????? Man, I meant that MY message was SARCASTIC. I don't know if it was a translation error or if you didn't understand, but now I'm clarifying it for you.

[quartz steeple]

BTW is it really that hard to just ignore CW and stick to ww2? there is a lot of players that only play one mode, why do you have to be so hostile about it? some of us love CW i do mostly because of TV and being able to depend less on the team.

[regal grove]

😱

[red zodiac]

I share my thoughts like everyone else on the server because iam a customer. If someone create an interesting OP I will give my thoughts.Free speech right.

[quartz steeple]

I used to play ww2 a lot, but for me after 6 years it got stale and boring, hell 6.0 was pretty much the last nail in the coffin for it for me and many others, i guess we lost like 1/3 of the player base and it has slowly regrown in some way, there are days i see more than 23K online (Before we were in the high 30K's), but a reason i came back was because of CW i like the system and to be fair i played it so much, i feel ww2 slow and sluggish, plus i don't like getting shot by a tank i can't see at 40 meters because my genius light tank mates decided to die before the match hits 2 minutes, plus there are rarely BOTS in CW when i play, you have to play past 12:00pm to start finding them, "When most people are sleeping"

[amber slate]

Sorry misunderstood the message

[amber slate]

Thank you for your clarification on your sarcastic comment.

[red zodiac]

I respect your opinion. To bring just tier 11 and 12 would make more sense to me. Guess I would complain less. I have to start work now. Take care 👍

[quartz steeple]

Tier 11 would be an interesting way to play, the Russian server of WOT has it on PC, have a nice day at work darling 😘.

[regal grove]

ok, it's okay

[glass parrot]

Yeah but you never say anything of substance hardly ever. Do you even play the mode you hate on and have tech tree tanks for all eras? Like I hate on WWII but have hundreds of tanks in it.

[red zodiac]

Who are you coming late to the discussion? Substance or not… still a paying customer who has all the rights to say whatever I want 😉

Hope you can deal with it. Take care and have a good time playing. 🖖

[glass parrot]

Cant help but notice you're avoiding the question.

If you don't have any constructive feedback just don't say anything at all.

[quartz steeple]

The game is Free tho XD

[red zodiac]

I still say my things… thx

[red zodiac]

I paid a bit… maybe you too guess wg console like it 👍

[quartz steeple]

Yeah but that doesn't give me freedom to demand things, i am a costumer yes and WG has to abide by the laws of my country and my rights, but i am not the only costumer. We can have our opinions heard and try to communicate problems we have in the game, but one voice is not enough for a 20k playerbase.

[red zodiac]

Right.. I speak for myself. Remove missiles.. I don’t like them

[glass parrot]

You say nothing though. And you're still dodging the question do you have any tech tree tanks in cold war? If so provide any level of meaningful insight and feedback.

Saying remove atgms is toddler level reasoning. They are how tank combat has progressed.

[quartz steeple]

And you have the right and freedom to do so, but expect counter arguments and counter opinions of other players.

[red zodiac]

Iam dodging you bro.. that’s the difference. Like I said ! Take care and bye

[quartz steeple]

We are at a point where that is not going to happen, but we can work together to make WG balance them ALPHA, MODULE and PEN wise.

[glass parrot]

@quartz steeple he doesn't want a discussion. From ive seen from him he is just talking about things he knows nothing about or has minimal experience with.

[red zodiac]

Come on and calm down pls. We are done here aren’t we?

[frank wharf]

Removing missiles from cold war seems a little short sided, but a good few nerfs can do.

Like. Why is there a tiny tank that has a 34m detection radius at gen 2 that can do the same damage as maxed out Gen 3 ATGM carriers?

[glass parrot]

We're just tired of you trolling my dude.

[glass parrot]

Not to mention the module damage

[frank wharf]

Oh yea. That too, I don't mind it much. But it sucks losing 2800 HP because they instantly nailed and destroyed your ammorack

Altho that's sorta rare.

[red zodiac]

I don’t troll.. maybe you troll talking about a manual spotting tool in a different OP.
Who decides what is trolling and what is sharing thoughts? @glass parrot

[frank wharf]

What's going on?

I don't think ATGMs should be removed, just tweaked.

Making them slower doesn't feel like the way.

Like. Gen 2 ATGMs, some of them feel fine. 800dmg average while it is a good chunk it isn't going to do half your HP.

So I feel like most tanks should average 800, at most 900.

Maybe tank destroyers specifically can do more. Like 1000 average.

But 1200 average ends up making most medium tanks lose up to 40 to 50% of their health in a single hit.

[glass parrot]

People who contribute nothing and make snide comments like you. This thread is about atgms and their balancing and you just said remove them.... do own or use any atgm tanks?

[glass parrot]

Youre right it should definitely top out at 1000 damage or less

[red zodiac]

I agree with the OP.

[glass parrot]

🤦‍♂️op went on to provide reasoning below the title that is now deleted. You are just complaining while providing no feedback or suggestions like these posts are for.

And you still haven't answered the question whether you have any atgm tanks in cold war tech tree or otherwise which would give you credibility in this thread.

[red zodiac]

You are a bit too offensive so iam a bit scary now. Please let me just be ok. Unfortunately the OP is dead. Still don’t like missiles in this game. Sorry that it triggered you

[quartz steeple]

The fact that "OP is dead" doesn't bother me at all, he wants to use discord as an echo chamber and the second you give a different point of view or opinion, he blocks you, people like this don't want to improve the game, they act like children and only want praise for their opinions.

[red zodiac]

What? Please let me alone! Everything is said!

[quartz steeple]

I am not attacking you, i am talking about OP.

[red zodiac]

Nice.. I don’t even follow this OP anymore. So I don’t care what you have to say.

[quartz steeple]

Is ok mate, i am not here to be in fights, but i also don't tolerate bad behavior, we need to do our best to find common ground in this posts, we can't just go for black and white topics, we also have to take in consideration other tankers and the game.

[red zodiac]

And you are the guy who decides what bad behavior is here? Get a life and let me be! Bye 👋

[quartz steeple]

No, common sense and education does.
And if you think blocking everyone that disagrees with you is not bad behavior then i don't know what to tell you.

[winter gull]

You guys cry of missels so maybe its better they put T249 into cold war. U can kill a t100 lt with 12 shoots. 12 Hits and 1500hp are gone and the Magazine is is big in this tank. So maybe its better wg put it to cold war

[red zodiac]

Education? Do we know each other? Remove missiles… yes I agree. To be honest! You bore me know.. get well bro. End