#Merge wot pc and console together

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glad anchor
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it would give much bigger playerbase bigger dev team more budget and faster mm time

just make compination of pc and console ww2 mode and cw already ready i have seen some pc player complaining that console gets cw tanks and not pc this would fix that

I know its very hard to do but would be VERY good for future

everything would i guess take 4-7 months to do

This would be massive update for pc players because of cw also update for console player because more player bots could maybe be fully removed and bigger updates in future

Console already has full keypoard and mouse support that might help idk

I dont see anything very negative about this

reef frigate
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PC wants nothing to do with us. They may be jealous of some tanks yes, and maybe our economy if they know it’s better, but not our game overall. We are an “inferior joke” to their community (typical PC/console rivalry obviously)

Our available tanks list is larger and different, our economy is actually better than PC, our commander system is more simplified, our research system is different, we have two different modes.

We crossed beyond any possibility of being even remotely mergeable years ago, far before 6.0.

Any sort of merge now and I can almost guarantee you there will be riots on potentially both sides, and depending on what’s done, thousands upon thousands of players will have to be refunded hundreds to thousands of dollars of content we paid for in either money or time.

There absolutely is everything negative about this

glad anchor
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This if done perfectry would be very good for both sides

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Wot c is anyways dying in couple years max if big good changes dont happen

glad anchor
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random mauve
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It probably took more than 4 to 7 months to do the transfer of players across WoT PC servers for the split from Lesta, if you think that's how long it'd take to merge to entirely separate games that have different tanks, different accounts, different pretty much everything and that's before adding in the complexity of Sony + Microsoft... you are sorely mistaken 😅 .

The legal complexities alone (as Derren alludes to) would likely take a year or two, then the dev resources going into building things that are missing from each other to put them on equal footing would take a long time and mean during that no other work can be done. And that's before you start to consider "what game engine/code stuff is this running on?" because the PC game engine/code doesn't run on console and it seems from your comments you'd want the PC version to be the main basis, so now add in on top of all that they would need to move to a new game engine or entirely rework theirs, that's even more work/time on top.

So realistically it would be a process costing $10's of Millions (if not hundreds), taking several years of work with no development put into pretty much anything else for both games and honestly i doubt most people would be happy at the end anyhow.

Having been around the different WG communities a fair while you tend to find that everyone has preferences and often only see the "greener grasses" of the other side as it suits. While at PC i would get DMs and pings telling me about this great thing console did and it's so bad PC doesn't have it etc etc and then friends from console talking about why they hate that same thing 😅. Both games are different, both have things the others community would like and things the other community wouldn't like.

open oar
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Inferior is telling the truth our game is made for the silly little brother, we have simplified mechanics because devs think average IQ of console players here is room temperature.
You have just to look at the numbers On Players and on viewers on platforms like twitch youtube etc.
We have more tanks because we have skins made extra tanks for more money obviously.
We have clown lines like mercenaries no one wanted and broken tanks like avre taran nighstalker 249 etc.
No clan content
No extra gamemodes like frontline or onslaught
No real balance changes

PC has some of its own problems but it has much more and better content than our game.
The only thing PC could do would be to delete our game and start with a console Port from PC and give us some stuff for a fresh start but chances for that would likely be under 1%

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reef frigate
spiral spear
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Sixth sense is a bit simplified I'll admit

open oar
spiral spear
open oar
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having the possibilty to customize your tanks stats in many different ways is for me atleast affecting the gameplay

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spiral spear
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We have simplified garage features, that's not really an argument. But our mechanics are extremely similar to PC (since they were taken from PC in the first place). The only mechanics that have changed since launch (I think) are how targeted works and arty having it's own special targeted

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I guess there's also stun but I don't think anybody on console misses that

random mauve
# open oar capped Crewskills, no field modification, less equipment

PC changed their crew skill system and somewhat added a cap, about 4 months ago in 1.26 i think. It's still not the same as ours but just as an FYI, it's a lot closer and PC moved towards our design and not away from it - to simplify it.

Also, i'm personally not a fan of the bond and bounty equipment, it just adds more separation between the haves and have nots and depending on distribution has potential P2W arguments. More variants for equipment though is a different thing and something i have discussed on and off with Zorin for a longgggggg time 😄

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# random mauve PC changed their crew skill system and somewhat added a cap, about 4 months ago ...

We have our own pay 2win problems here with premium tanks being much stronger than TT vehicles due to the "no nerf policy" bounty and bond equipment is a nice addition if all players could get it.
And PC has a better System for getting stuff here you just have to grind xp tank kills etc for stuff on PC you actually need to get certain things done like X ammount of dmg or blocking dmg or spotting etc you need to become better.

To the next point our arty has more than double the dpm PC has and 3times its HP so yeah i would rather be stuned than getting hit every 15 sec from arty.

spiral spear
# open oar We have our own pay 2win problems here with premium tanks being much stronger th...

Yeah P2W stuff like the Russ and Dorn and 4211 are a bit much, but there's a lot more average stuff like the Taran and TOW. X amount of damage/spotting doesn't make you better lol, there isn't much WG can do to make players better. We have similar ops for season passes if you didn't know. PC you get hit every 15s by arty AND stunned so yeah. Both arties suck. One isn't preferrable to the other.

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spiral spear
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spiral spear
open oar
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it was never average just because a bot cant perform in it does not balance the tank.
Thats one of the reasons why it is banned from most comp games other than the grille, 268 or 268v5

spiral spear
open oar
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ok i see you want accept the logical answer so we try it another way.
why did WG in their wisdom make a special MM for a "balanced" tank to only play against itself ?

spiral spear
worthy lance
# reef frigate PC wants nothing to do with us. They may be jealous of some tanks yes, and *mayb...

"4-7 months to do"?

I'm sure it would take far loger than that. How many years did it take after 6.0 for the console game to resume some sort of stability? By then, unfortunately, many players had been lost, and once people move on they rarely go back. The same thing would probably happen if they made other major changes to the game, like what you are suggesting. Even a 4-7 month disruption may be too long. (They should do it in the summer, if they must).

reef frigate
worthy lance
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(Just entered this channel).

reef frigate
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Haha all good lol accidents happen

worthy lance
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I do think it is unworkable at this point though. I've been playing the game over 10 years now. 6,0 was definitely the change that "broke" the game and drove players away. It will never completely recover from that. (Implemented right before Christmas too, which was foolish).

glad anchor
worthy lance
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Are the two versions even compatible at this point? I haven't played the PC version.

Also, wouldn't those with ultra-powerful PCs be strongly at an advantage?

toxic sedge
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just replace ww2 with wot pc

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random mauve
# worthy lance Thanks. I just googled it, but no need to read further. I think we still have R...

Due to Ms/Sony and no server split we have a different situation, but across all of WG we no longer accept payment from RU/BY countries, but we don't actively block their players. As PC WoT and Warships have it so you have different accounts for each server, they split the CIS servers off from the WG title and Lesta was released to run it's own game separately. Due to the CIS server including many players from places like Ukraine, Serbia, Kazakhstan, etc - they offered the chance to move servers so players from the CIS server had a choice as to remain with WoT or move to what would become "Mir Tankov".

As i mentioned above this was an arduous process to implement, and as much as once in place players needed only click a button and they were transferred automatically within days - the work to make this happen was extensive and consuming.

You can find more info in various press statements and articles on the Wargaming website 🙂

mossy field
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Regardless i dont want to merge with wot pc

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All we need is a serious and honest attempt at balance

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So i have a reason to tell friends who left the game to come back and even tell new people that hey this free gme is worth your time

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And id even say merge na server with eu

worthy lance
# random mauve Due to Ms/Sony and no server split we have a different situation, but across all...

It doesn't affect me, as a console-only player to this point, but thanks for the detailed info there. I hope CIS players' selections could be kept confidential, as there could be real-world consequences in some countries. It's a shame the world is going that way, but that's where we find ourselves today. I don't want to get into politics, but the Russian name seems questionable. Unless I'm mistaken that translates as something like "Tank Peace". That isn't what's being experienced in the real world, unfortunately.

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mossy field
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Yes and im worried about ping

worthy lance
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Out of curiosity, does the game have players inside Iran?

mossy field
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Im inside iran

worthy lance
# mossy field Im inside iran

I know some Iranians here (outside Iran). No idea if they tank or not. I also know a lot of young Iranians seem to be "Westernised" still, but wasn't sure if they got to play online games. I would have thought getting a console itself would be a major hurdle. There were export restrictions, at least in the past.

mossy field
# worthy lance I know some Iranians here (outside Iran). No idea if they tank or not. I also kn...

Iran has cycles of restrictions which is related to general political issues of nation

But as we have encountered many issues we also have some ways to just bypass them but in the last protests we have lost internet for gaming eqch time for at least 3 months

Consoles and iphone smartphones are available in iran but generally more expensive due to them not sold from official stores of these companies

mossy field
worthy lance
# mossy field Iran has cycles of restrictions which is related to general political issues of ...

We'd probably better get back on-topic, but thanks for the answer. I was initially expecting you to be outside Iran, until you posted otherwise. Obviously there are ways of getting around restrictions, especially when they have been around, in some form, for decades. VPNs probably help on the internet side of things, but perhaps not for gaming. Glad to have you joining in with us on WoT though. The world needs to come together more. Tank combat is fun as a game, but can be hell in real life. Let's stick to the game version.

mossy field
worthy lance
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Thanks. I may do so at some point. (Not "massaging" though, lol).

mossy field
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Oh my bad miss typed

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smoky musk
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Horrible idea.

unkempt flume
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It would still be a herculean effort but also probably still easier to add PC support to Modern Armour & Console support to OG WoT

Plus merging games would (as mentioned before) just ruin both. It'd just objectively be better if both playerbase had the other version available to play ||without buying a new damn system||

Modern consoles are definitely strong enough to run PCs version of the game. Mods would pose a bigger problem. But it would solve the whole "grass is greener on the other side" problem that any game with platform exclusive versions has

silent berry
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No
They are incompatible platforms.
If somehow they could merge, Console players would be at a major disadvantage and become nothing but cannon fodder.