Returning 8 year player who quit 3.5 years lol, need tank build advice thanks

[dull linden]

Looking for the best 4 equipment slots and 9 commander skills for some tanks that I mostly play, I know this is asking for a lot but would greatly appreciate the help, maybe even link up with a very experienced player and discuss builds on mic:

Hydra
E 100
VK 72.01 (k)
JG.PZ. E 100
KPZ 50 T

[narrow hull]

Keep Enhanced Targgetting info on everything

[dull linden]

Yes that I did know should have said 3 oops

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E 100
VK 72.01 (k)

For these, run Optics (view range), Rammer (reload speed), and Stabs (accuracy on the move)

JG.PZ. E 100

For this, run rammer, camo net, and your choice of ammo-swap/optics/or traction

Crew Wise:
E-100 and VK K:
Born Leader
Rapid Loading
Steady Aim
Snap Shot
Run-N-Gun
Sixth Sense
Situational Awareness
Armor Angling
Clutch Braking OR Off-Road Driving

JG. PZ. E 100:
Born Leader
Rapid Loading
Steady Aim
Sixth Sense
Situational Awareness
Run-N-Gun
Camouflage Expertise
Muffled Shot
Silent Driving

@dull linden

[dull linden]

🫡

[narrow hull]

I have never played the Hydra and haven't played the Kpz recently

[dull linden]

Hydra's amazing crazy alpha for the tier and very tanky, KPZ 50 mediocre as hell but looks so good for a paper tank

[narrow hull]

I just exclusively play tier 10. 450 games in the last 30 days, all are tier 10

[dull linden]

I have 463 games total played E 100 was my first tier 10 ever, I've played since Xbox 360 era but yeah quit nearly the last 4 years to strictly play World of Warships Legends only 🫠

[narrow hull]

Well, welcome back. You seem to have come back in a bad time 😅

I hope my equipment and crew setups help you out

Feel free to @ me in #general if you have questions

[dull linden]

Thank you very much, yeah I quit shortly after update 6.0 or whatever that big one was xD

[dull linden]

I had mostly all these earlier today, but took off Born Leader and Armor Angling to try some other stuff but I went back to what you recommended now,

Do you think it's a horrible idea to instead of Clutch Braking or Off Road Driving to rather use Rapid Aim?

[narrow hull]

Rapid Aim?

Rapid Loading and Steady Aim are both in that list already

[dull linden]

It's turret and gun traverse speed

[narrow hull]

You could if you wanted

[naive spire]

Hydra
Equipment
Adv Optics
Adv Loader
Stabs

Skills
Born Leader
Rapid Loading
Steady Aim
6th Sense
Track Mechanic
Situational Awareness
Snap Shot
Run N Gun
Supply Conversation or whatever you think works for your playstyle

I never have had 9 skills on a Commander in the Hydra as I use it to train crews and earn silver.

[stone meteor]

i find armour from kpz50t. i dont know why others cant. firm tank. The hydra has Phenominal armour for tier.

[stone meteor]

id keep rapid aim for bad turret traverse offenders, IS4, CW Bulldog. Arty to get there and get aiming quicker.

Im not the biggest badest person on game. but if you want to toon. DM me

[dull linden]

I'm only really speaking from experience with KPZ 50 T from like 3.5+ years ago, idk if it's got buffs since then but when tank was newer every enemy knew it's weak spots, and in my experience maybe I was getting attacked by higher tier tanks too idk

[stone meteor]

its the turret. know what tanks are throwing Heat. any high heat pen will butter it

you likely have some crews to spec out. many will be at 9 perks

[bold bone]

u already played for 8 years, wat are asking advice for

[dull linden]

I quit nearly the past 4 years of those 8, so I ask peoples builds on these tanks to compare to mine or try new things, maybe shifting meta over time,
I was a solo back then never really learned ideal setups from any experienced players and,
not the greatest player so never really knew if I had tanks and commanders setup ideally.

The real question is if you not trying to help, share your builds or can contribute to thread in a positive manner why even bother commenting 💀

[novel vapor]

Jagdpanzer E 100 with camo net?? Are you joking mate? That's is a weird recommendation for a super heavy TD. It's a tank you play in front in the enemy's face, and the camo is so but i would not bother improving or recommend people to snipe with that tank. I would play with rammer, vents and gun laying drive. No ammo switch cause Heat is just a beast and it is not like a FV4005 where you will need to swap depending what is in front of you to do more damage with HE or AP. HE will be used quit few with tank, would rather boost the tank all the time than maybe have one situation per 5 or 10 round where ammo switch will really do something for you

[narrow hull]

Gun Laying Drive only works if you're sitting perfectly still

And the Jag is already accurate enough

Camo Net allows you to cross areas and maintain the element of surprise.

Firing only HEAT is a great way to find your shells absorbed

Also, Jag has no armor and limited gun arc, screw playing it in the front

[novel vapor]

If you know where to aim it is fine😌 and yes gunlaying is only working when standing or moving very slow, but it will give you a better opportunity to be aimed fully and taking the shot earlier which should be the gola for this tank because you wanna face the enemy as less as you can

[narrow hull]

No, just sitting still. Moving at all makes it not work

[novel vapor]

😂 alright, yes armor is quit squishy some times but you can trade HP really well and still bounce some shots, staying back is a waste of a gun

[narrow hull]

Not if you have shots and are landing them

Jag is a support TD, not a frontline TD

Plays like a FV4005 rolewise imo

[novel vapor]

Alright mate, I will not bother arguing with you, in my opinion it is just sad that people's promote camping

It is not even close to Fv4005 play style

[narrow hull]

Both are support TDs

[novel vapor]

Fv got no armor, legit no armor, but it has a turret, you can compare that tanks

[narrow hull]

Okay, Nemesis TD or Deathstar

Also support TDs

[novel vapor]

Also TDs you should play at the front beside you heavies and help them trade

[narrow hull]

Support TDs sit behind the heavies

Wanna know what helps you not get shot at? Camo net

[novel vapor]

😂 I can't bro sorry, this is ridiculous

[narrow hull]

If you're not running camo net on nearly every TD, you're not taking advantage of camo net

Most broken equipment in the game right now

[novel vapor]

Yeah so you have like 350 camo while moving or even worse and I scout is still spotting you at 400 meters😂 really great

Then I wonder, if it works so good, why have you not marked this tank? Questionable

[narrow hull]

Because I don't play it constantly?

Nice try at statshaming

All the top players run camo net on nearly every TD, including the Jag

Wonder why that is

[novel vapor]

No probkem mate😂

I personally know no good players that to that on Jagpanzer e100. Yes on Taran, grille 15, and many many other tds but jagdpanzer is so good playing in front and trading.

I mean many players even good ones are not able to play at the front so they snipe with jagdpanzer e 100, kinda skill issue I guess

[narrow hull]

"Skill issue" lol

Just say you don't know how good camo net is

[novel vapor]

Mate I know how good it is😂 but not on jagdpanzer e 100, vents and gun laying give you a use all the time when you aim and shoot, camo will maybe give you a small advantage in 1 out of 10 games, that is ridiculous

But go on and promote camping and make the game more lame🫡 good job to you

[narrow hull]

Aw, Vents, one of the worst pieces of equipment in the game

And Gun Laying Drive, the thing that requires you to sit still in a tank with no turret and limited gun arc

"Promote camping," I'm promoting playing a TD in the way that is currently the best and most meta.

[novel vapor]

😂😂😂 yeah, delusional 😂 who told you that? Clone guy?

[bold bone]

this is an interesting read

[novel vapor]

Whom are you voting for Lethal?😂

[stark stirrup]

Camo net is OP on most mediums, lights and TD’s.

You don’t run camo net on some TD’s (Jagdpanzer) because they receive little benefit over vents ect.

[novel vapor]

Thanks Dave🫡

[stark stirrup]

And GLD is arguable on TD’s, personally I’d rather take vents even though it sucks and build my crew to aim easier

[novel vapor]

YES SIR🫶🏻

[narrow hull]

And yet most top players run camo on ALL tds

[novel vapor]

Not on Jagdpanzer mate, but yes on the most others and with that I agree

[narrow hull]

On Jagdpanzer too

Fv4005 has same camo and people do it

[novel vapor]

Okay, which top player?

[narrow hull]

People run camo net on the AMX 50b, which has the same camo

[stark stirrup]

Never said they don’t, I do
But Jagdpanzer? Pointless

[narrow hull]

I'd argue otherwise

[novel vapor]

That i know but you can't olay that at front cause it is made out of paper, but me for myself I tried it and play it without camo cause you still get spotted most of the times

[narrow hull]

Get any map other than a town? You're now a sitting duck easily seen

[stark stirrup]

If you need camo in a Jagdpanzer, you’re sitting too far back

Best to take vents and improve your gun handling

[narrow hull]

Camo Net allows you to set up ambushes, move unspotted, and not get hit as often

[novel vapor]

How good is you moving camo with japgpanzer with that setup?

[stark stirrup]

Yes, but Jagdpanzer is getting seen regardless

[stark stirrup]

357m

[novel vapor]

Yeah, take a tier 10 scout and that reduced the camo between 40 to 55 meters, so you still get spotted at 400 which is a difference of 45 meters to max spot range

Most scouts come closer to that

So what about your stealth now?

[narrow hull]

I think you overestimate how good Jag armor is

[novel vapor]

No I know mate I 3 marked it

[narrow hull]

I'd rather have better camo over minimal gun handling increase. Atleast with camo I'll get shot at less, the tank has no armor

[novel vapor]

But it works some time and you got HP, and if you know how to angle and you wiggle, most players struggle against it

[stark stirrup]

Run camo net if you want, it’s not useless but im always too far forward for it to have any benefit, and in crossing camo net or none you’re gonna get seen so I’d rather with a 20s reload make sure every shot hits

[novel vapor]

And it is way better for the team and for the fun of your to not snipe and go play the game

[stark stirrup]

Good for you

Preference

[narrow hull]

Fun is subjective

And granted camo net is dominating games right now, is also better for the team

[stark stirrup]

I’m not going to say it’s wrong for you to prefer camo net because I understand it

But likewise making sure you don’t waste a shot on a long reload is also beneficial, so marginal still helps

[narrow hull]

With 360 camo, a Jag will see a heavy tank first

So heavy tank gets hit for 1050, quite possibly without ever getting to shoot back

Same reason people run it on 4005

[stark stirrup]

Problem is, camo net ain’t worth Jack once you fire the first time

Then that heavy only has to drive an extra 50m to see you perma

[narrow hull]

And is now down half their health

And is pushing towards you and your team

[stark stirrup]

And you get battered by their supporting pack + arty

Arty love Jags

[narrow hull]

That would happen more without camo btw

[stark stirrup]

No but closer often means you have more cover

Further back just means camo, once you’re seen you’re countered

[narrow hull]

Not if you position yourself right

You can sit farther back and still have cover

[stark stirrup]

“Position right” isn’t a sure thing when you have to consider team structure + movements

Jag is a big girl

[narrow hull]

I'd argue, and dare I say it, camo net is the higher skill Jag setup I think.

Both could work ig

[novel vapor]

Nope cause you don't build view range, moste have get easy above 500 meters with optics, that will reduce your camo to about 385-400

Most heavies are better than that

[stark stirrup]

Camo net if you want to be a TD
Vents if you want to be a brawler

Both work, should be the end of it, anything else is going in circles

[narrow hull]

My point is, playing a TD usually nets better games

[novel vapor]

I don't wanna argue with you mate but stats depending it is not a really good option, if you like it that is on you but I would love to show you the "real" way to play Japanzer e100

[stark stirrup]

Try to do it without getting sent back to the menus

[novel vapor]

Yes, usually, but there are tanks where you have better choice, of course you playstyle is important

[narrow hull]

I put camo net on all my TDs and never went back.

My Sturm has camo now

[novel vapor]

What you mean?

[stark stirrup]

I run camo on as many lights, tds and mediums as I can

[stark stirrup]

IHR KONTO WURDE BIS 05.01.2025 22:27:09 GESPERRT.

[novel vapor]

😂😂

You got a point, but i am able to play again

And that was the first and last time Dave🫡

[stark stirrup]

I hope so, I’ll be watching with my pitchfork if it happens again

[novel vapor]

😂😂😂 deal

[dusk hornet]

Dont put camo net to the jgpz e100 its a bold mistake...

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[stone meteor]

It does not require you to be still. Its just the 17cm yag will aim out all the way everytime you move due to despersion. It is active all of the time trying to bring that circle back with a 10% reduction. Considering the aim time i dont think it is a bad shout. As for the camo net idea, not worth it.

[narrow hull]

Aim Time is only effective when you're sitting still

Your tank only starts aiming in when sittinh still

Thus, GLD is only effective when still

And camo net has multiple benefits, especially for a TD

[stone meteor]

you are not exactly moving fast with yaggeroo. And any aount of aim is still aim. Its not as th the thing is moving 50kph and snap shotting

[stone meteor]

Camo net is stupid dump sweaty play. It doesnt snipe well, cant out spot anything the moment it has to turn which is always.

yes there is a distance where a net and a bush might be good for a couple of shots. And because of the non existant camo rating you would be better off joining the fight and not just waiting for you team to die.

[narrow hull]

That's not how that works

GLD only works sitting still

That's the point

Camo Net is used by high skill players, and works.

[hoary light]

Why?

[stone meteor]

Because its really hard to be a bush wookie without.

Take it off yur active lights

[hoary light]

Seems like there is a lot of advice here, but I'm happy to help a returning player. Feel free to reach out to me. I play all tiers and I'm approaching 11 years...6.0 almost made me quit too. Just a note, I will give you recommendations and advice and I will fully explain my opinion/recommendations with reasons and justifications, so that not only will you understand, but will be better equipped to make your own decisions about tanks and there configurations you chose to play.

[narrow hull]

Don't do that either

The only Lights that is justifyable for in WW2 is the T249 and Tusk

[hoary light]

Seriously, if making a suggestions, giving advice you should say why? As in life there are many options and there is not only one way to do something. However, Targeting cursor is helpful for players that are learning the game and that struggle to see their target, but once you get comfortable knowing the terrain and seeing tanks to shoot, this slot can be and should be freed up to us other equipment that can assist you achieve greater results with that specific tank and your skill level.

[narrow hull]

Except most top players still use targetting info

Probably a reason for that

[stone meteor]

CW 107, bulldog, tier 8 tippy,

[narrow hull]

Yes, I do know, and no it doesn't prove the point

[hoary light]

LOL, interesting that you know "most" top players still use it...Well that maybe your opinion, but you'll need to show the poll and even if that were true, it still would prove the point I was making.

[stone meteor]

i believe it does. "good" players vs good players. Ever been in a match with your light not spotting and 3 tank lengths behind you. This is one of the "good" players.

[narrow hull]

Your average tier is less than 5

[stone meteor]

Bush wookies only keep bush wookie friends. Because other people disown them. I know players between 300 and 4k wn8. Some will remove target info, some wont

[hoary light]

You believe is accurate, you backing up with facts would be even better. You maybe one of the good players, but it's still your opinion, because I know I'm one of the good players and use and don't use depending on the situation. Again, I'm not being critical that you do use. I'm simplly saying your blanket statement isn't educatiing people on how to become better at the game and enjoy what or how they want to play the game. Again, you gave a reason and people can judge based on the reason to follow the advice or not.

[narrow hull]

I'm one of the good players

Sorry to bring stats into this, but your linked xbox accounts average tier is 4

And you are average

[hoary light]

Average tier means nothing...I stated earlier I play all tiers, I have almost 70k in battles so my average would tend to show the tier I play the most, which lately is tier 2, because I'm working on raising that specific tiers numbers, because I didn't focus on that early on (this is for me alone not suggesting others should)

[hoary light]

Your not sorry or you wouldn't have brough it up...Again your proving my point. I'm honest about everything I do in tanks. I just answered you about average tier, it means only what it means. I play all tiers.

[narrow hull]

Don't try and use "I'm good so do this..." or "good players do this..." when it's not true

That's my point

I'm done arguing in this thread

[stone meteor]

dont make blanket statements about "good" players either.

[hoary light]

Stop, this is about helping this person get back into playing tanks, I simply said give a reason why when giving advice as this will help people better understand. You took it apparently as an attack, which it was not.

[stone meteor]

mine was. I cant abide the bush wookie

[hoary light]

I never said do it because I'm good, I did state I am one of the good players. Your putting words into my messages.

LOL, I believe you supastalka

[hoary light]

I apologize for clouding your simple request for assistance. Please feel free to reachout directly to me, if I can assist you.

[stone meteor]

hey dude. I do it, but il do it with flimsy TD/Med. I wont do it in the teams' only light tank.

[hoary light]

See again, your making blanket statements and then not backing is up with facts. You have shown your true self here.

[narrow hull]

I have moved on 🙂

[hoary light]

The beauty of this game, is that you can do whatever you want. I'm not judging.

[hoary light]

As you should

[hoary light]

As will I

[stone meteor]

i find i horrid when you dont have an active light WW2. The "good" player will have you believe its some sort of big brain play. When the actual good player knows they are just buffing stats

[hoary light]

I've done an entire video on my youtube about stats, telling the truth, even information players don't share about stats. There's a lot here to unpack.

[hoary light]

Good luck and Happy Tanking to you!

[dull linden]

No worries, I'm surprised thread is still active xD, I've read all comments appreciate all opinions and perspectives I shall try Jg. Pz. E 100 both ways