.

[iron crest]

This tank does not need buffs.

[red hemlock]

disagree since how inconvenient the gun is its don't feel like a sniper

[iron crest]

Its not a sniper. Play it to its strengths and its fine

[red hemlock]

It still bad td

just play a leo1 grille 15 and t-100 lt those are better aggressive tanks

[iron crest]

None of those tanks can do 1800 damage in 6s. The tank is quite broken in close quarters combat.

[red hemlock]

You know its heat pen is bad and its use heat as standard round and also, it can do 1260 damage in 6s so don't lie

[iron crest]

315 pen is bad? Thats the best standard round in the game iirc. But you should really be abusing the HE with crazy pen and damage.

[red hemlock]

315 is bad for td you can't pen everytime with he due it's have same problems as heat

[iron crest]

315 is enough for anything. Thats the same as premium rounds on a lot of meds and heavies. Being a TD has nothing to do with anything.

[red hemlock]

it's not going to kill smart heavy player in close combat

[iron crest]

You shouldn't be brawling with heavies anyway. Play it like a light, you will see its potential then.

[red hemlock]

i would agree with you if its fast small and fires apcr as vanguard

[iron crest]

So just because it fires HEAT you cant play like a light?

[red hemlock]

i can play it but lights are good at tracking because they have ap rounds and faster shells dpm

[hardy vine]

I would ask for advice on how to play the tank rather than simply saying it is under powered.

Watch some videos from the CCs. Gamblt has a video on it. Learn how to play the tank utilizing it strengths.

It is different than other tds. That is a GOOD thing!

[red hemlock]

just play batchat amx 105 ^ better ambush tanks

[tired river]

So, why does it need buffs?

I personally think the tank is quite the delight. Speedy, stealthy and capable of hurting in a very short space of time. The shell arc is also quite abusable.

[red hemlock]

^ i would agree with you it's accuracy is fv215b level and it can shoot up

[sharp verge]

BAT is very good tank. No need for ”balance” what so ever. It works really well if player can actully play lights.

[red hemlock]

they can play better lights tds ^ give me good reasons its very good

why you need td to play a light role

[tired river]

It's not a traditional TD, so avoid playing it like one.

It's a very lightly armoured, lightweight and mobile tank. It is thematically closer to a light tank than a TD, and it reflects that in-game.

[red hemlock]

grille 15 move like lt its better tank

[sharp verge]

Pairs MM. Priceless.

[red hemlock]

huh?

[sharp verge]

If you cant pick up that I do understand your grief over BAT

[prisma oar]

This tank needs no buffs. It's heat round has good pen, and the HE round is outright crazy. 180 mm 570 damage is enough to pen most tanks in the side (some even in the front) and deal 1710 damage in 6 seconds. It's also small, agile, and well camouflaged. For an autoloader the dpm is fantastic. Think of it like a higher skill ceiling AMX 13 105.

[red hemlock]

good pen lol

[prisma oar]

Yeah 315 is enough to pen anything frontally aside from certain tanks like a chieftain or IS7 hull down

[red hemlock]

can't pen e3 amx m4 54 pz.kpfw vll lower plate 100%

[prisma oar]

It pens all of those with low difficulty. Can even pen the upper plate of an AMX M4 54 as long as it doesn't low roll or hit at too steep an angle.

[red hemlock]

Sure, Sturm

[prisma oar]

All of those lower plates are within the 250-280mm range.

[main magnet]

The only thing it needs buffed is the camo and shell speed

[red hemlock]

it's gets 50% stronger if they angle little bit

[main magnet]

Make the camo like 210-215 and buff the shell speed

[prisma oar]

Opens up thinner weakspots. For the amx it's those side slants on the front of the hull, pz7 it's the area under the turret, E3 it remains the bowl

[prisma oar]

Heck no way too much camo

[red hemlock]

Camo buff nah shell buff is helpful

[main magnet]

The minotauro gets better camo and it's a massive target

[prisma oar]

We do not need a vehicle incapable of being spotted at 200m that does 1710 clip damage

[prisma oar]

The Mino is incredibly slow and the gun is horrid

[main magnet]

That's if it hits the target

[main magnet]

Not really

Plus it gets 300mm in the front

[prisma oar]

The intraclip is 8.66 seconds and its accuracy is .46 base. Most autoloaders can drop their whole clip in that time, T114 bat is no exception.

[main magnet]

The shell speed on the 114 is almost as slow as the sturm tigers premium he

[prisma oar]

For comparison base fully aimed sturmtiger is .43

[prisma oar]

Yeah, makes it absolutely dirty for looping it over a ridge. Using bushes you can comfortably close to within 350m unspotted making landing those shots a lot easier

[main magnet]

U can't hide with 270 camo

[prisma oar]

You absolutely can.

[main magnet]

U get spotted very easily

A tiger 2 out spots it

[red hemlock]

its 200mm if you over angle it's still a 53.5ish chance and let's hope slowass heat shell hits gun mallet without hitting the gun

[red hemlock]

What is your crew setup?

[main magnet]

I put everything u can do with camo on it

[sharp verge]

250m is correct number. VR 499 without vents. Equal to AMX 13 105. Mobility is on par. Damage potential way above.

[main magnet]

Only went to 270

[prisma oar]

Even without a crew the Tiger 2 is never outspotting this tank

[main magnet]

270 is garbage

[main magnet]

With crew it will

And I've tested it

[red hemlock]

disagree

i think 315 camo is garbage for tds

[main magnet]

How is it not garbage

[slim fern]

Slightly better camo than the batchat

[main magnet]

U get spotted the moment u shoot

[red hemlock]

muffle shots is good

[slim fern]

That's everything

[slim fern]

Muffled shot is trash

[main magnet]

Batchat has much better gun tho

[slim fern]

Different gun. Much lower dpm, worse accuracy

[main magnet]

Doesn't help it

[prisma oar]

It literally will not

[main magnet]

Betty shell speed and more damage output

[main magnet]

How is urs 250?

When I played it it was 270

[prisma oar]

Camo expertise+camo net+camo

[slim fern]

Different gun. That's the point. Some upsides, some downsides

[main magnet]

What crew do u have on ur tiger 2

[slim fern]

It barely does anything with how the camo formula works

[main magnet]

Mine was 270 last I played it and it was maxed out

[prisma oar]

The standard 6 perks extra accuracy skills

[slim fern]

Wasn't maxed then

[prisma oar]

OK well as you can clearly see it reaches 250

[main magnet]

The bat is still better

[slim fern]

Shopped clearly

[red hemlock]

E25 S1 LEO 1 T62A:

[slim fern]

E25 duh with the small caliber

[main magnet]

So why was mine different then

[prisma oar]

Because you forgot a commander skill or to apply camo

[main magnet]

I remember it being 270 because I hated that's what made me wanna sell it

[main magnet]

I had everything on it

I used my grille crew on it

[prisma oar]

You did not. Again it reaches 250. I don't understand how this is debatable

[main magnet]

That's what it should for me so don't look at me and even still that doesn't change the shell speed

And 250 still is as good as it should get

It's a small tank

[red hemlock]

Jigtig 88 foch 120 with muffled shot seeing this:

[main magnet]

Those are decent tanks tho

With better camo and guns

[red hemlock]

Foch jig does not have better camo

[main magnet]

Wait aren't you the gun that thought 300 heat wouldn't go through a ax turret 🤔

[red hemlock]

didn't say that

[slim fern]

Lot of people debate things that are demonstrateably false and double down when presented with facts

[main magnet]

It was u😂

U said it would be hard to pen😂

[shadow scroll]

In order to have best possible camo you need everything to boost crew performance camo net and camo on the tank

[red hemlock]

proof? @main magnet

[shadow scroll]

Oh and rations as well

[inner sky]

Looks like I need to bring some numbers to the party

[main magnet]

We even tested it

I got the whole conversation 😂

[red hemlock]

people who think 263m camo muffled shot is bad has play too much weasel tow that they lose their standards what is good or not. muffled shot helps you not get spotted in bush firing

[shadow scroll]

And personally I haven't played the t114 yet but it looks fun is it bad?

[main magnet]

Camo and shell speed is

[shadow scroll]

Ah

[slim fern]

Better camo than every medium tank

[prisma oar]

Dude we have been over this it has 250m camo

[main magnet]

The shell speed is almost as slow as a Sturm tiger premium

[main magnet]

Could be better for how small it is

[slim fern]

Skill issue

[shadow scroll]

I wouldn't say 250 camo is bad but apparently that's not the best at tier10 in regards to td,s dispite it being small af

[main magnet]

Go look at it

[prisma oar]

The only downsides are shell speed, weight, and gun depression/elevation. All of which are pretty easy to play around. Tank is a solid top B tier maybe A imo

[red hemlock]

the only thing i agree with you

[shadow scroll]

I do like my td,s might have to play it at some point

[main magnet]

Id say c in my opinion

[prisma oar]

I personally enjoy it. Lots of fun

[slim fern]

A is doubtful. It's a niche tank that's average

[main magnet]

I think it's 45 faster I believe

[red hemlock]

i said spaced armor make heat harder to pen it

[shadow scroll]

And it has what 315mm standard pen that's pretty good 👍

[red hemlock]

cs has better pen ammo type^

[main magnet]

Yes but u can see the green next to the gun

[red hemlock]

just move

[shadow scroll]

Yeah ik other tanks have stronger heat rounds but dosen't mean it's weak

[main magnet]

Not hard to hit and we tested it

[inner sky]

What tank do you want T114 to he compared with? I got everything

[red hemlock]

the context is ax would work with space armor as the tier 8

[prisma oar]

Exactly what I tried to tell em. 315mm pen can go through any tank frontally as long as they aren't hull down

[main magnet]

Compare the heat speed to the sturm premium he is almost the same for speed

[red hemlock]

or not angling at flat ground

[prisma oar]

Toss in an AMX 13 105, a BC25T, and eh let's say dealer's choice

[main magnet]

He was hull down tho

[slim fern]

Compared to the murat, there are tier 7 mediums with the same dpm

[inner sky]

wow one single stat. much gppd many information wo how it performs

[prisma oar]

Not talking about your Centurion side conversation

[shadow scroll]

Isn't 315mm pen the highest standard pen at tier10 now?

[prisma oar]

Yes

[red hemlock]

fv4005 says no

[prisma oar]

4005 is 310

[main magnet]

We are talking about shell speed not dpm

[prisma oar]

And since the t114 bat is firing heat it experiences no pen drop-off

[red hemlock]

which has better ammo performance

[main magnet]

Makes it garbage

[slim fern]

Compared to the E4, there are tier 4s with the same shell velocity

[main magnet]

Ah my apologies then

[prisma oar]

The question was about highest standard ammo pen. That belongs to the T114 Bat

[main magnet]

And the e4 has great shell speed

[red hemlock]

does ap normalization makes it feel like it's has 320?

[inner sky]

not so garbage after all when you thing of it like a light tank

[slim fern]

It's more medium than light. It's honesly a similar role to the batchat or TVP

[inner sky]

one sec

[red hemlock]

AX with spaced armor will make turret workable

[main magnet]

It doesn't have the stats as a little ntm shell speed is horrible

[red hemlock]

Which are better tanks

[inner sky]

still not toooo bad

[prisma oar]

Depends on a lot of different factors. Armor thickness, angle, range. Heck even shell speed, low enough shell speed at range and the loop can let the shell drop onto the armor and decrease the angle. All depends on scenario. But as far as the number 315>310

[main magnet]

Of the buff the opening next to the gun it will

[inner sky]

so you think its a bad tank when its only in the middle of the pak inb performance ?

thanks WG for spoiling the kids

[prisma oar]

Do my eyes deceive me or according to your data it's better than the other tanks on the list? Clearly T114 needs buffs

[main magnet]

36 bounce 😂

Whos doing that

[inner sky]

super unis

people who can play

[red hemlock]

rudeness make him looks smart

[main magnet]

They must be not that bright then

[main magnet]

If u think u won't pen the he

[inner sky]

this chat will be fun i guess xD

[prisma oar]

It's for amount of shots they bounce with their armor 🧠

[inner sky]

uhm bro its shot bounced by the strumtiger armor

[main magnet]

Keep in mind u can cheat the uni system

[inner sky]

guess you are not so bright then

[slim fern]

Issue right here lol. If it's middle of the pack, people complain that it's not worthwhile. If it's good, people cry p2w

[slim fern]

That's some 1600 wn8 gospel right here

[inner sky]

they cant cheat me

i hand picked them

semi random ish

[main magnet]

Ah I thought it was the amount they don't pen my bad

[inner sky]

dint pick riggers

[red hemlock]

Kinda hard plays it like light how bad elevation is let's hope light tanks don't yolo you and track you or ram you

[inner sky]

my data is as legit as it can be

[main magnet]

Not really

[prisma oar]

Yep. And honestly the fact this tank with all of its niche little features is performing pretty decent overall, shows how good it can be in the niche situations its meant for

[inner sky]

its based on 125000 matches from 80 or soTrue super unicums

[inner sky]

its the first UNIQUE tank in ages and people complain

[main magnet]

Are u going over all or 30 day?

[inner sky]

90 day

[lucid swan]

The shell arc is so Meme worthy. Its hilarious what you can do with it. Love it.

[red hemlock]

what makes it unique?

[main magnet]

90 still easy

[inner sky]

they cant cheat me, didnt pick accounts with too much CW, lowtier or high fraction of light tank gameplay.

i know how things work

[main magnet]

Shell speed needs to be better

[inner sky]

id make camo of some TDs worse and make it a light tank

boom problem solved

[prisma oar]

Low shell speed, autoloader with amazing HE potential, super small.

[main magnet]

It's stupid how easily it is to cheat it lol

[red hemlock]

medium would work

[inner sky]

you can fool the idiots with that sure.

but you cant cheat me

[slim fern]

Murat but yeah

[inner sky]

and i guess 80% of the players i picked are active or used to beactive comp players

[prisma oar]

I think he is missing the "hand picked" part

[main magnet]

I have a friend that played one match on a tier 4 and now he has 30k wn8 in it

[inner sky]

data is legit, dont need to find excuses

[slim fern]

He never listens don't bother arguing

[main magnet]

No I got that part I was just saying in general

How it was easy

[inner sky]

general idiots didnt make it.

[prisma oar]

Tali's data is not general

[inner sky]

its from the top2% or so

i might be the worst players in there

im pretty sure i played against most of them at one time in some tournament

[main magnet]

I try not to play the game as much so idk what mine is any more

[slim fern]

1600 WN8 gospel

[main magnet]

Plus I have 2 other friends that play on my account

[red hemlock]

caliban has those things?

[slim fern]

1600 WN8 gospel

[main magnet]

I would hope it's not that low lol

[inner sky]

caliban sucks though and isnt toxic, if it would suck less it would be a t8 avre

[main magnet]

Damage on it is good

[main magnet]

What ur gt😂

[inner sky]

sure dmg is good on caliban

like it isnt

[slim fern]

Same as my discord. I got nothing to hide

[inner sky]

well, atleast he's checking before he stat shames

[main magnet]

@slim fern ur wn8 is 3400 so sit down

And ur in imtls

[slim fern]

There's like 50 people who could actually stat shame me and I've beaten almost all of them in comp at one point or another

[prisma oar]

Claiban isn't as small and mobile. The Caliban is an autoreloader or single that takes as long to load its 2nd shell (or single shot) as the T114 Bat takes to load a whole clip.

[slim fern]

Lol

[inner sky]

he sucks, its confirmed

[main magnet]

Have u not seen the sweats with 6k wn8

[slim fern]

Never beating those rumors

[inner sky]

looks like you dont know how wn8 works, how the formula works and what expected values are

[main magnet]

Na those are the ones that gold mark everything

[slim fern]

Yeah there's like 20 of them in the game

[prisma oar]

think he will link his own stats to back up the stat shaming?

[inner sky]

yep, and i guess we know all of them by name

[main magnet]

They need a break on the game lol

[inner sky]

this sounds like something a noob would say

his brain would melt if he knew gera

[main magnet]

I've been playing sense it came out

It's not hard to play the game

[red hemlock]

It's kinda believable he has 1110 WR8 No offense Iron I will not tolerate muffled shot slander 😡

[slim fern]

1600 is good wn8

[inner sky]

and yet no serious comp team would consider you

[main magnet]

Not really

[inner sky]

thought the game is not difficult?

[slim fern]

It’s like top 3rd of players

[main magnet]

U do realize I've turned down imtls right

[prisma oar]

waiting for iron to link his stats if he wants to stat shame nate

[inner sky]

wait imtls is asking players now?

[main magnet]

I have a buddy in it and he asked if I wanted to join

I said no

[slim fern]

Believable

[inner sky]

who doesnt have buddys in some clan, going by that logic i could be in any clan

[main magnet]

They are to toxic and I don't need another comp to to fight to get play time like drksd

[red hemlock]

t114 with single shot would be balance fun as m113

[prisma oar]

you gunna link your stats or just point at other people's

[slim fern]

Allergic to proof

[inner sky]

make it a light, and do this https://discord.com/channels/630895439520202783/1276904214874030120

[main magnet]

Isn't it linked already?

[prisma oar]

the account you have linked is not attached to a wot account

[shadow scroll]

OK so I got a question how do you determine wn8 or whatever it's called 🤔

It's not a stat in game

[main magnet]

I thought it links when u put discord on ur Xbox

[slim fern]

It is

[prisma oar]

oh doesnt show for me

[slim fern]

It’s a zero not an o

[inner sky]

math. it compares your performance to an expected performance per tank. thing is console wn8 is poorly maintained and breaks down with many tanks. also wn8 kinda breaks with high dmg numbers

[prisma oar]

ah

[main magnet]

My apologies on that I can change it if needed

[slim fern]

It’s linked fine. Sturm can’t read

[shadow scroll]

So higher the number the better?

[prisma oar]

nah im just on mobile couldnt see the difference 😂

[inner sky]

basically yes, but 5k on BC25t cant be compared to 5k on MAUS

[slim fern]

You wouldn’t play with your stats

[shadow scroll]

Oh so it's different for each tank

[slim fern]

The whole point of wn8 was that 5k on maus equaled 5k on the bat

[main magnet]

Stats isn't everything and keep in mind I have 2 friends that play on my account to

[inner sky]

true, doesnt work on console

[shadow scroll]

It would be nice to see all these hidden stats in game ngl

[slim fern]

I looked at MOEs

[inner sky]

my brother and grandma play on my account too

[prisma oar]

nah its a flawed metric. Can be farmed if you know how to exploit it

[iron crest]

admitting to acc sharing is crazy

[shadow scroll]

Oh it's flawed by what bot farming?

[main magnet]

It's allowed 🤷

[inner sky]

tbf experienced players use DPG, moe and some guesstimating to judge skill

[main magnet]

And they come over to so why not

[prisma oar]

that and also averages. If you have a 2k game down at like tier 1-5 its going to show as a ridiculously high number. Same applies in CW for multiple tanks because the health pool is so high you can reach super inflated stats.

[nocturne hill]

These are some great T114 Suggestions 🙂

[shadow scroll]

Ah I see

[prisma oar]

gunna have to scroll up for that. Seems its been decided so far the proposed changes are unnecessary

[shadow scroll]

I can't say really anything on the t114 I played in one match of coop to just mess with it

It looks cool about all I can say 😂

[inner sky]

i didnt play it but data from people who can play suggests that its fine

[prisma oar]

Its a good tank. It will be a lot more fun once this contract ends though. With the massive load of TDs in the MM rn its a bit more difficult to play the T114 Bat like a light and it doesnt exactly do well at the whole trading at range thing the popular tds do.

[shadow scroll]

Yeah I'm currently at like 20kish xp out of the 318k I need to get the roswell

[prisma oar]

id say once the roswell contract ends it will likely be more fun to play not only the T114 bat but tier 8-10 in general lol

[shadow scroll]

Contracts are annoying

Being forced to play a certain type of tanks constantly is mind numbing

Like I get it the roswell is a heavy tank/td but I think contracts shouldn't force you to play certain things

[inner sky]

Contracts shouldnt be "play a lot"

There should be a skill component

[shadow scroll]

I generally avoid contracts because they take forever lol

[inner sky]

Like do 4k dmg 5x in a row

[shadow scroll]

Probably more fair would be do 4k damage in 5 games doing that in a row would get really irritating

There has to be a ballance between difficulty and ease of progress on them

[nocturne hill]

I would like to see contracts be less of a steady grind and more of a Feat as well. Especially bc they have long run times and usually return, everyone gets a fair shot

[red hemlock]

its good if you love 200m range

[inner sky]

people cried when they had to get 2 highcaliber for machine iirc

[nocturne hill]

Tier 3s and 5s have the same velocity.

[slim fern]

No it was 2 high caliber in lights for the sharpshooter

[red hemlock]

bro compare a tier 5 to a tier 10

[shadow scroll]

Personally I can't say anything about that old contract if that was during the mercenary update I wasn't active on the game then

[inner sky]

ouh sharpshooter then. but it was just 2

[nocturne hill]

Im saying that people grind those tanks without issue, they get used to the velocity

give the tank more playtime, i dont think your suggestions are bad or wrong, its cool to consider it as a single shot

[iron crest]

disagree

[shadow scroll]

If wg gave you the option to use a single shot gun or the 3 round magazine

Similar to how the one tier8 amarican heavy gives that option

[inner sky]

Why do people want op tank all the time?

And yet all complain about wiesel and taran

Is this Schrödingers balancing?

[shadow scroll]

I don't want op crap

[red hemlock]

huh

[shadow scroll]

I dispise dealing with a molot in era3 or dealing with tier10 bs in a weak tier8

[inner sky]

It's either crap or op. Anything between doesn't exist

[red hemlock]

my buffs would not make it op it's still suck at sniping even if i buff it

[shadow scroll]

It wouldn't make sense to give it faster shell velocity it's a recolilless rifle

Yeah ik it would make more consistent at range but clearly wg didn't want it to work like that

Same thing goes for the m113 or the m50 ontos in era2

[inner sky]

It doesn't need any buffs when compared to similar tanks

#1277994466380218388 message

[red hemlock]

needs single shot options. autoloaders bored me or
elevation needs improvements

[sharp dragon]

Not all TD's are snipers

The nm-116 in cold war, the minotauro line, ect

Hellcat even

[red hemlock]

most of them don't have 500

[sharp dragon]

So what, your doing the equivalent of comparing the IS-4 against the RU-251 💀

[prisma oar]

500m/s just means you get tested on all those vector problems from back in school

[sharp dragon]

It's not built for sniping

[red hemlock]

Sigh

[sharp dragon]

Its an autoloader with a semi short inter clip reload

Its no sniper and isn't built for it

Like every tank
Play its strengths

[prisma oar]

Basically it's just a light tank that trades the moving camo bonus for a spicier gun

[red hemlock]

let's hope i don't lose 1200 hp playing it like lt

[sharp dragon]

You don't see CW players complaining bout the m113, even though it shares some traits with the T114

[red hemlock]

Cw mentioned opinion ignored

cw is different story

[sharp dragon]

It has the same law

Play a tank to its strengths

You cannot play all heavies the same

And neither the lights

Ur not gonna use a sturmtiger as a sniper

And your gonna play the leopard 1 (ww2) in a similar way to light tanks

[shadow scroll]

I'd prefer the t114 being a era1 tank personally it gets tiresome seeing something like that getting added to tier10

[sharp dragon]

Cold war already has a similar tank, tech tree even, the M113

[shadow scroll]

Ment as a premium

[sharp dragon]

We have the ontos for those who like the M113 as a premium

Same gun x6 as an autoloader

[red hemlock]

that doesn't have turret

also slow

[shadow scroll]

It's slow to help balance it

[sharp dragon]

And if u want full 360, use the m113

[shadow scroll]

If it was fast it would basically be era2 weasel

[red hemlock]

t114 will be good era 1 tank

[shadow scroll]

It would be a era2 more then likely

Now it probably wouldn't be op in era1 but depends really

[prisma oar]

Technically speaking the t114 is further development of the m113 and test of the m114

So era 2 would make more sense. But the m113 and ontos exist there so it wouldn't really be special

[tired river]

T114 and T113 were contemporary. They're from the same period.

Technically the M113 with the 106mm dates to after this

[prisma oar]

T114 was prototyped after the first t113 tho wasn't it?

[tired river]

There's about a year or two difference. Not a huge amount in the late 50's

[red hemlock]

they added clown tanks who cares about historical accuracy

[shadow scroll]

I don't mind fictional tanks like Warhammer stuff as long as it's not op

[red hemlock]

era 1 is boring we need more era1 tanks

[sharp dragon]

Roghal dorn and leman rus moment

[sharp dragon]

We just got more era 1 tanks TODAY EVEN

[red hemlock]

those are old tanks

we play before play like ww2 ones

[red hemlock]

leman rus easy to kill

[shadow scroll]

Well good news we just got two more in era1

Even tho they are ports from ww2 honestly I don't mind them porting tanks over makes sense to

Like whenever Japan comes to cw I'm sure the stb-1 will either be top era1 or bottom era2

[red hemlock]

bottom era1

[shadow scroll]

Nah it won't be the starter tank

That would be the sta-1 or 2

[red hemlock]

still will be bad

[shadow scroll]

Nah

[red hemlock]

they will give it auto siege and not improve armor

[red hemlock]

i hope it's not end up like mk5

[shadow scroll]

The centurion or chieftain mk5?

[red hemlock]

mk

[shadow scroll]

And just because a tank dosen't have armor dosen't mean it'll be bad simply look at the Leo prototype (type 773) in era1

[red hemlock]

MK2 cough cough m60 cough cough

[shadow scroll]

The centurion mk2 and base m60 have something in common both are bottom era of thier respective era,s so it's not surprising that they suck

[red hemlock]

they were good before buff

[shadow scroll]

They never got buffed?

[red hemlock]

i mean ww2

[shadow scroll]

I don't remember if the tier8 centurion or the tierx m60 ever got buffed tbh

[red hemlock]

m60 got dpm buff

[spice vault]

@tired river do you know that I notice the blatant hypocrasy that goes on here ? Do you care ? Probably Not, and that's the True Spirit of what caused this game to die like it has.

[kind sleet]

wtf is this ego

are you even super uni yet to be saying this?

[high palm]

Didn’t you play in amd? Didn’t they pay people to play on their accounts to win some irrelevant semi pro non sponsored tournament? 💤💤💤💤 nice ego old man

[main magnet]

Not hard to get to 3k

[main magnet]

I did and no they didn't

Who told u they got paid

If so where's my money lol

[high palm]

[high palm]

Why would anybody pay you to play? 🤷‍♂️

[main magnet]

Well u said pay to have people play on their accounts

Why wouldn't get paid for playing in the tournament

[kind sleet]

you dont even have 3k

[high palm]

“I’ve been playing since the dawn of time, I’m a wot console expert, stats don’t matter”

[main magnet]

Because 2 other people play on my account and could care less on wn8 now that I mainly play wt

[high palm]

😡

[blazing nimbus]

@main magnet since your stats are pretty bad wanna play on my account and drop my stats so people don’t call me good no more

[main magnet]

Sucks to suck ig

[main magnet]

Ur is probably bad as it is so it wouldn't make a difference

U do know I can cheat the system right?

[blazing nimbus]

You gotta show me man

These people don’t know what their talking about

[kind sleet]

nice excuse

[main magnet]

Just how it is

[prisma oar]

my dog plays on my account

[high palm]

[main magnet]

Probably more useful than 90% of the player base

[prisma oar]

ngl he got dumpstered by NbdyKnowsImADog. But he at least tried 🙏

[blazing nimbus]

Need myself a furry just like Dakota

[kind sleet]

anyways

bat is fine

would rather have a non op td over another op one anyways, so i dont think it needs a buff

[brazen aspen]

@main magnet This is where I know that you are totally out of your mind; you're suggesting that this tank needs buffs (specially shell velocity), but the Bär is fine and "should be played from afar"? Lmfaoooooo 🤣

[brazen aspen]

Skill issue ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[red hemlock]

.

[zenith mason]

@mossy geyser

[main magnet]

U do realize Jake is the same person that suggested a t95 armor buff💀

114 almost had the same shell speed as a sturm premium and that's horrible

[zenith mason]

Cupola could use a 10-20 mm buff

[blazing nimbus]

He don’t like me no more

[zenith mason]

Aint it a She?

I have no idea now 😭

[blazing nimbus]

Idk they don’t like me no more I thought we had a bond

[main magnet]

It doesn't need it

[zenith mason]

Alr, i guess we gotta suffer for the T110E3🤣

[main magnet]

If u think the t95 is bad then u have a major skill issue

And u never played it so be quiet

Especially with ur 1 tier 10 being a premium

And ur 800 wn8

[kind sleet]

nice ego

[main magnet]

Bro u can't say Im wrong about this one

He's played hardly any tanks

And complaining about it

[zenith mason]

My buddies Got another account nerd

@main magnet youve been here since 2014, and only 2500+ wn8?

And most damage in a Wiesel? That Screams sweaty

2 marks on a FV4005? Once again, that screams sweat

Lotta big talk for someone who doesnt even have a 3 marked tank :/

Granted mines a M113, but still more than you

• it seems to me that the only era 3 tanks, and a Magach7c/6B (that im seeing) is a bunch of premium tanks, ofc the only one youve done good in is the OBJ477A

[zenith mason]

@kind sleet did u mute him?

[prisma oar]

No that would be one of the moderators who did that