#E50M, Jag E100, E100, 57 Heavy, 50B, and others

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south valve
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All of these aside from the e50m are fine

potent veldt
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True, the T57 does need a nerf

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In all seriousness though, E-50M is the only one that truly falls behind. 50B gun handling buffs would be appreciated though. The rest are fine or even too good

weary solar
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And u don't seem them as much because everyone is playing op tanks only

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Such as avre and others

potent veldt
weary solar
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E50m is an aggressive med

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With decent armor

potent veldt
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420 alpha with the same reload and another 30-40mm on the turret

weary solar
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I wouldn't mind that

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And it wouldn't make it op or anything

arctic kestrel
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The Jag is by far the worst tank listed in my opinion, too slow to do much except die on a flank, it’s armor doesn’t work anymore because other td’s have power crept it big time, it’s reload is too long for a measly 1000 damage when the gun isn’t much smaller than the 4005/183

50B is good but it’s concealment is really bad, it also only has 477m of vision range with optics which isn’t that great either, this all would be fine if it’s shells were good but the AP round is mid. On top of that it’s got a high top speed but horrible accel, similar to the e50m issue

The e100 is borderline useless even with turret buff, it’s gun is very hit or miss, and the 12.8 isn’t much better

The 57 heavy I can admit would probably be broken no matter what you did to it.

potent veldt
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You lost me at "measly 1000 damage"

weary solar
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The tanks are not hard to play at all

arctic kestrel
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The Jag E100 is the second lowest 3 mark requirement of all tier ten tds lowest is the fv 215b 183

Usually by looking at mark requirements you can tell how good/bad a tank is.

There’s only a few tanks with guns around this caliber/similar alpha damage

The Taran, which has literally better everything, has a gun that is 18mm smaller but hits for 50 less damage, when it could be argued it rolls for 1000 more than the jag does.

The 4005 which basically has better everything (other than armor obviously) plays way more consistent and better than the jag and it doesn’t get a true “premium” round as it has hesh which has 240 pen vs the jags 420mm prem pen

The 183 can hide and snipe (even though having horrible gun handling) and has a way better hatch than the jag.

The jags “armor” doesn’t work because it has a hatch made of card board, so even if you go hull down (which won’t help you anyway) you’ll get shredded. If it wasn’t hard enough to hide your underplate you also only have 6 degrees of gun depression which isn’t working in your favor

potent veldt
# arctic kestrel The Jag E100 is the second lowest 3 mark requirement of all tier ten tds lowest ...

1.) Official mark requirements are not published and 3rd party sources are off by hundreds.
2.) Mark requirements are a horrible way to tell if a tank is bad. Do you really think a T-22 Medium is a better tank than an AVRE because it has a higher damage requirement?
3.) The Jag has 1050 alpha making it 100 more than the Taran and 100 less than the 183s.
4.) Stop comparing every tank to broken vehicles like the Taran. TDs as a class are stronger than any other, we really dont need to push them all to the extreme.
5.) The Jags cupola is tiny and completely covered if you are using gun depression. God forbid a tank have a weakspot, right?

weary solar
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Just because a tank has low marks doesn't make it bad such as the vk45.02b or obj.780

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Both great tanks

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And the jags 3rd mark is 4400 and that isn't bad

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It's not a op tank but a decent one

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Not to mention it has the highest pen for ww2 so it can't be op