#Cold War Progression Update

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balmy raft
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It varies but the important piece of information in the article on this is:

  • The silver reduction is based on the new module/tank cost. Its only done to keep the earnings proportional to the new values for that particular era.
  • The silver economy is remaining a Silver positive economy so that you still are earning silver. We have not lowered the silver earn to make you lose silver.
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Since ERA 1 is where the most changes are taking place with Silver cost, that is where you'd see the most difference. Era 3 cost are mostly the same so earnings will mostly be the same.

jaunty portal
digital fog
balmy raft
digital fog
# balmy raft Hello, i'm not sure where you are getting 70% from? That is not in the articles ...

Not made up—deducted. I’m asking for more information to prove the deduction wrong.

You would agree that the era 1 examples in the article show at least a 30-35 percent reduction?

You agree the article says the average silver reduction is 56 percent?

The deduction then is that Era 2 and Era 3 must be reduced by more than 56 percent as Era 1 examples only show 30-35 percent reduction (conservatively). If Era 2 is around 56 percent reduction, then a conservative estimate for Era 3 is 70 percent.

All I’m asking for is some examples for Era 2 and Era 3. In particular, the Weasel which WG just sold weeks ago.

balmy raft
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We can't make stuff up and then ask us to prove it wrong. Again, we have provided the real information in the article that you can refer to and have answered this above. If you are choosing to not believe us, then we cannot help in this situation.

balmy raft
digital fog
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I’m not trying to badger you. It feels like WG is asking the player base to accept a decision on which they are not informed about. When did informed choice become a bad thing?

atomic hound
atomic hound
jaunty portal
atomic hound
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I understand we all would like to see more examples of what it would look like but they may not have time to put together all the article pieces to show you

digital fog
# atomic hound You have been well informed, the reduction is 56% across the board. Your just ma...

This is why you get blocked. Don’t like my posts? Tough. Use the block button. Quit trying to be a bully and telling people what they can post, when they can post or how they have to feel about something. You are just trying to derail. WG wants feedback and it’s better for them to get that now. You are free to ask me why I believe something, but you don’t get to tell me how I have to feel.

Explaining to you a subject matter you can’t comprehend due to your myopic view is not my raison d'être.

atomic hound
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If you don't like or can't handle the truth then not mine or anyone else's problem but if your gonna continue to assume things people are gonna call you out on it

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I'm not the bully here lol you are as you've been told by wargaming staff numerous times that it's 56% less and we keep telling you that but your somehow coming up with false numbers like 70% and telling them they are doing a bad change

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And when anyone disagrees with you you slander them much like you are now so how about you stop bullying people who disagree with you and stick to your false point

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Plus I don't care if you block me honestly so go ahead block me see if it bothers me cause it dont

digital fog
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WG didn’t say it was “wrong”. They danced around the request. I asked for examples for era 2 & 3 as my feedback. That’s within the bounds of this feedback channel. Everything else was explanation of why and I never asserted absolution, but again inquiring.

Why are you so opposed to players asking for and having more information?

atomic hound
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I'm not opposed to anyone asking but your saying it's a 70% decrease in era 3, when they have given nothing to suggest that

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At this point though they have given explanations to pretty much all questions and the change is only a few days away so instead of hassling them for more why not wait a couple days and find out

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Yes it would be nice for examples of era 2 and 3 but they may not have anything to show on those fronts

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I'm not bullying anyone nor am I telling anyone what they can or can not post as it's a public thread so as nicely as I'm gonna say it stop assuming I am

digital fog
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They have given something to suggest era 3 will be higher than the average 56 percent by a fair portion.

Again why are you so opposed to players asking for and having more information?

If it’s truly not significant then it really shouldn’t matter to you in any case right?

Why are you opposed to WG releasing a couple of examples of the silver change for Era 2 and 3? It didn’t take long for them update from the first article, so time isn’t really it.

Why are you opposed to players having more information?

atomic hound
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I've never once told you don't ask them for more or anything like that

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Your just assuming that

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So in your words your bullying me

digital fog
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Then why do you tell me to “wait and find out”? Why do you try and bully me on every post about my request—say I am “making things up,”have no reason for asking as “nothing to suggest”?

atomic hound
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As for the wait and find out well if your so hard up on those two eras I'll say this be lucky they gave you any info at all

digital fog
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As I said it was deduction—a logical conclusion based on evidence presented.

And again you try and bully me—saying I’m lucky we were given any information—implying that somehow my inquiry is somehow improper.

atomic hound
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No

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We are all lucky they gave us any info when they did lol, they could've waited until today to tell us this info

atomic hound
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Also on top of that how do you know they won't give any examples on stream today

digital fog
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Then you agree asking WG for the silver change for Era 2 and 3 premiums is an appropriate request for the feedback channel?

atomic hound
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I never disagreed with it

digital fog
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Then you are trolling. Which is against the rules and harassing other posters.

atomic hound
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When did I disagree hmm

digital fog
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If you don’t disagree and you’ve added nothing to the discussion, then you are trolling and harassing.

atomic hound
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I've added lots to this discussion that you disagreed with so I guess that means your trolling

digital fog
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you’re

atomic hound
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Also there's a very big difference between harassing and having a discussion

atomic hound
digital fog
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It’s not a discussion when the sum total of your posts amounts to I need to not ask.

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It’s just harassment

atomic hound
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Nope

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I've given many opinions that you've disagreed with because you've come up with outrageous numbers

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56% across all eras is 56% there's no other variables to suggest otherwise

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But since you're continuing to be a BULLY I'm going to leave now since nobody can have a normal convo with you without you bullying their opinions that go against your own

digital fog
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The only opinion you have shared in this portion is to not ask and to make gaslighting bully statements like you just said—particularly about “no other variable”.

atomic hound
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There isn't any other variable that suggest a bigger percentage lost in era 2 or 3

digital fog
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There you go again being a bully.

They released era 1 into and the avg. Again you try gaslighting on this trying to stop people from asking.

atomic hound
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It's not bullying when it's fact

digital fog
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Gaslighting is bullying.

atomic hound
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I'm not gaslighting

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The only variable they've given is 56%

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Not 60% or 70% like you keep somehow bringing up

digital fog
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It is when you try and tell someone how they should feel, what they can ask about, when the facts released are not what they are.

digital fog
atomic hound
digital fog
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If the silver reduction average is 56, and the era 1 examples show 30 percent reduction conservatively, how do you think the average of 56 is arrived at?

You do understand average correct?

In one aspect I do appreciate the attention to the issue however improperly you may be going about it.

atomic hound
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That 56% could be a full proper 56% at era 3 lol have you not thought about that

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Where era 1 is 30% era 2 could be around 40% and then era 3 is the full proper 56%

digital fog
atomic hound
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Irrelevant

digital fog
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Now you are gaslighting again.

atomic hound
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Nope it's not relevant to this current convo, your gaslighting by trying to change the topic

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Now your bullying me because I'm sticking to the convo at hand

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Not how averages are made

digital fog
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So average is no longer relevant?

atomic hound
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Your asking me how I think average is decided which is not relevant

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Which doesn't matter how I think it does because you would bully my answer anyway

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Like you have on ALL my other answers or posts

digital fog
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So again you are saying I can’t ask something because you have deemed it “irrelevant”.

How about you stay in your own lane?

atomic hound
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It is Irrelevant because it doesn't matter how I think something is made

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Also there you go bullying me again telling me to stay in my own lane lmao

digital fog
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But you shouldn’t tell me what I can ask about on a feedback thread. And in that sense, yes, I can tell you to stop bullying. Telling someone to stop bullying is all I said you need to do, whereas you have gaslighted and tried to stop me and others from inquiring.

atomic hound
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I'm not stopping anyone from asking anything or am I trying to stop it

atomic hound
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Telling people what to do

digital fog
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You have harrasssed, gaslighted, stated and implied that I should not ask. The post are above and I’ve taken pictures.

atomic hound
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I have never once told you not to ask also again if I had been harassing or doing any of that I would have been muted or banned already

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So your wrong here

digital fog
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Again gaslighting—I’ve already pointed and quoted posts above.

atomic hound
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Not gaslighting, I have never specifically said to you or anyone to not ask

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Your just trolling at this point which is against the rules

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But whatever makes you feel good about yourself but I'm out since I'm tired of your bullying of everyone who tells you exactly what has been said or those who disagree with your opinions

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Goodbye everyone if it wasn't for him I would continue to have civil convos with you but it's impossible with someone who slanders all of your thoughts and opinions

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And don't ping me because I'm not gonna answer to you anymore @digital fog

digital fog
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You’ve been the only one. If you noticed I’ve not pinged you. You keep trying to ping me—attacking but I have you blocked. But I don’t let bullies bully.

atomic hound
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I'm not bullying like you

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But again whatever makes you feel good

digital fog
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You have a good day then.

atomic hound
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I will because I won't be bullied by you

digital fog
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Ok have a good day.

errant halo
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When talking to players/users/people in general Game Owners seem to struggle with 'updates' and 'game direction'. Watching Blizzard self-destruct with WOW and Diablo comes to mind. I still here the reply of "Don't you own a phone" at a BlizzCon ringing in my ears and the look of disbelief on BlizzCon staff.

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Reason: Bad word usage

lofty urchin
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What was it? Boomer?

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talibumbum has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

lofty urchin
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And yet diablo for mobile made them millions and billions, We aren't the majority anymore, we aren't even the group that pays the best. It's our moms and dads who play candy crush and farmville

errant halo
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Yes it, did but it was the way it was announced was a disaster, in front of a PC crowd who had paid to be there. Candy Crush level 14,686 never spent a dime, King hates me.

lofty urchin
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The disaster happened because we players didn't know where we are. We're way down in the food chain

noble coyote
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That's the neat part: you don't.

brave plume
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otherwise the devs, instead of posting updates that no one has asked for, don't you want to be useful? by correcting matchmaking for example? tired of falling into games with 6 wisel in front and only 1 at home...

atomic hound
brave plume
atomic hound
brave plume
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it would be enough to set up a rating system, each tank has a rating based on its average efficiency and you balance the two teams

atomic hound
atomic hound
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Fingers crossed they look into it at some point

soft stream
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I'm probably in the minority but I don't hate the update because it dosen't effect cw coop if anything it's a benefit to it

atomic hound
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atomic hound
soft stream
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I mean that kinda silver earn is still really damn solid

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But I'm so glad finally the grind in cw won't be painfully slow and breaks the bank on every purchase lmao

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The dumbest example of a overpriced module is the gun upgrade on the type69-2 all it does is .1 better base accuracy for 2million silver 💀

real meteor
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I think the majority of CW folks are good with the update.

atomic hound
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That's a wild guess as to how it will be

atomic hound
soft stream
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Yeah I'm definitely interested to see how the earn rates are going to be

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Only thing wargaming said was it's still going to be better then ww2 silver earn

real meteor
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I see 7 thumbs up and no thumbs down so guess it's good

errant halo
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I keep seeing large current silver earnings 400,000 plus yet the 2 examples from WG are much lower T95E3 M48A5PI Patton
Current average Silver earned per battle:
52,000 Silver
Current average Silver earned per battle:
29,000 Silver

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Where are these high silver returns coming from? Era? Booster? Premium Tanks?

atomic hound
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I'm hoping anyways

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Imo it wouldn't make sense for them to make era 3 premiums make basically nothing, that would be like changing ww2 silver earnings and making tier 8 premiums make very little

errant halo
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Ok, I never see 400k plus with no boosters etc in Era 1 TT tanks.

atomic hound
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For example today I played the wiesel without boosters and all premium atgms and made 500k

steep iron
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You again with wiesel stories😅😅🤣

muted hatch
jaunty portal
muted hatch
jaunty portal
muted hatch
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Which is a reason why WG might want to reduce earnings after reducing the costs. For those players it's simply way faster progression after the update.
It's slower than mp, so maybe it's fine

However at this point there are no plans to change it, let's just hope it stays that way

atomic hound
# steep iron You again with wiesel stories😅😅🤣

First off if your gonna slander someone just because they play a specific tank for silver you shouldn't be here as you are providing no feedback or any knowledge of how it is now. Second this further solidifies my previous comment of it being the best silver earner of era 3 IF you own it. Third I was having a civil convo with someone else and there is no reason for you to be trying to start stuff. So since you seem to always want to be negative towards me I'm gonna be blocking you

vague ether
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There seems to be a bug with cold war at the moment, pls read my post at #bug-reports-playstation

vague ether
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Thx, havent noticed this because i just went into the Game as always without selecting anything.

atomic hound
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atomic hound
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Maybe that's because I'm more consistent in it compared to the jag

soft stream
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I love the jaguar1 it's a much more stable platform than the the weasel but yeah if your playing the run and gun style the weasel is more effective

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The amount of ammoracks I've gotten with the jaguar on molots is funny Upepe6

atomic hound
soft stream
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Hmm so good

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Oh I've also had my best ever game in the jaguar damage wise

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Was a bit under 17k damage

atomic hound
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Nice

atomic hound
soft stream
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Before my jaguar game I think I had 11k-12k damage in the bottom era3 Chinese heavy mbt

atomic hound
prisma bluff
# atomic hound Yeah that's true but hey this change is something that could be very good right,...

I'd settle for some sort of logical organisation of the selection screens at this point. That is something that SHOULD be easily within their capabilities, yest somehow every time I need to find a commander or tank it's search-through-the-scrambled-mess time, yet again. We waste far too much time on routine tasks like that which should be simple and mistake-free. Being fined 60 Gold (or more) any time you make a mistake doesn't help either.

atomic hound
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atomic hound
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atomic hound
soft stream
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It's biggest issue is not a lot of ammo think it holds 37 shells?

atomic hound
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soft stream
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The type90-2 is the top era3 Chinese heavy mbt

atomic hound
atomic hound
prisma bluff
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(That's what happens wehen you respond to one message, and are flung to the latest posts, missing whatever was posted in-between).

atomic hound
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Lol

prisma bluff
soft stream
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I'm taking wargamings word that cw coop isn't getting changed but if it actually got ruined I'm done with this game ngl

atomic hound
atomic hound
atomic hound
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Just seems confusing lmao when your saying nobody asked for these changes in the cw progression update but your talking about ww2. Sorry if that makes little sense

soft stream
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So the update is nothing but positive to cw coop

atomic hound
soft stream
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I nearly went off because they are nerfing the silver earn in cw then noticed that coop isn't changing

prisma bluff
soft stream
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Like I primarily play cw coop with my friend so if it would've gotten nerfed we would've stopped playing the game

atomic hound
soft stream
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I love pve modes in games ever since halo reach firefight amd cod bo1 training room

atomic hound
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atomic hound
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Imo they can't do new tanks for the entire pass though and they have no way of knowing what people need. Now with that said it would be awesome for them to use premiums we don't see often as rewards

soft stream
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I don't mind duplicate tanks because a lot of free silver

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But I get why people see it as annoying

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atomic hound
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It would be nice to see some tanks we haven't seen in awhile

soft stream
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atomic hound
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Yeah

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atomic hound
soft stream
atomic hound
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I personally wouldn't make all tanks in the pass refund gold but I would either make the stage 25 tank or the stage 75 tank give gold back

soft stream
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You know what I hate

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Why does the bp go past lvl 100

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It's pointless

atomic hound
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Stage 118 gives commander xp bonus and 124 is a silver bonus but after that it's useless

soft stream
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The post season bonuses you can get should be given once you finish the bp

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If not then stop it ay lvl125

atomic hound
atomic hound
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And if you get to let's say stage 300 you get a random low tier premium

soft stream
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There's zero incentive to keep getting lvls after 125

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atomic hound
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atomic hound
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But leave the stage 100 tank as silver

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atomic hound
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Just my thoughts

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atomic hound
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Could be nice but we'll have to wait and see

prisma bluff
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Anyway, gotta move on to other things for now. Maybe earn the T-34-3 for my alt later, if I have time.

prisma bluff
atomic hound
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Nice you'll be fine then

prisma bluff
atomic hound
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Lol I'm trying to earn as much silver as I can before Tuesday and get as far as I can on the kv4 ktts contract

errant halo
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I'm on the last stage which is pretty grindy.

atomic hound
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soft stream
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I wouldn't buy anything in cw atm if your playing mp just get as much silver as possible before it's nerfed

late nova
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To be honest, I like the Cold War and World War II, but it makes me wonder how people would have coped back in the day without two times silver boosts and a 25% extra silver bonus on top of everything when reaching level 125 in the season pass. It was a real grind. I'm really looking forward to the changes. It means I can grind the Cold War tanks without worrying about how much silver I'll need for the next tank. And that being said people not being able to earn millions in silver go back to World War II and just go full premium on ammunition and consumables

muted hatch
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I'm weirdly looking forward to the update, I want to continue my CW lines...

balmy raft
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Hello, this thread is about Cold War Progression update. Please don't use it for other feedback. Please create your own threads on other topics if you wish to discuss them.

jaunty portal
balmy raft
jaunty portal
balmy raft
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Otherwise, wait until the official one is posted. This thread is not for season feedback

jaunty portal
quiet rain
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It'd be interesting to reduce the XP required to some tiers 9 I think, because some of them need too much XP to the tier(s) 10...

muted hatch
prisma bluff
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Just curious, but does the game have any players actually in China?

prisma bluff
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Who do you think they named the new season for GP? Italians?

digital fog
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Well this thread isn’t a season feedback thread. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Players actually in China are not the only ones who like Chinese things—nearly 5 percent of Canada is Chinese btw.

And I know you know how to read various comments in a thread. So 🙄

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digital fog
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lol this isn’t the season feedback thread in any case. They added a new section for you so you can let them know of your distaste of all things Chinese until your heart’s content.

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errant halo
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Not me, no idea. So any more info on CW 2.0 ?

prisma bluff
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I believe it starts tomorrow.

Get out there raking in silver. You know you NEED it. Lol.

errant halo
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lol, I can think of 1,859,221,236 why I don't.

jaunty portal
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real meteor
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loan sharking.....................lol

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real meteor
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It’s built in the game if you don’t pay up you get -25% RNG, terrible MM and your commanders get a -25 % penalty on all skills. Also your rounds are blanks in battles.

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