#why is it so hard to admit that T-72 ural has incorrect hit points

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verbal flame
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Come on devs, why we re pretending here that nothing s going on.
"Heavy" era 2 CW t-72 ural with 2350hp.
I look around my garage-wait a minute mobat and fv4211 got 3000hp, then i look at mediums in my garage leo 1a1 2.5k, forad 2.6k, wz122 2.56k, magach 2.8k, enigma 2.8k, only LT i have is object 934 with 2.3k hp.
Now i go to premium tanks list
Rdf/LT got 2.4k hp, i mean srsly is t-72 made from paper or what, mauler got 2.4k as LT, amx 13 ss got 2.3k hp..
Lol boat LT tank type63hg got 2.4k hp, hiss got 2.4k, ignis 2.5k hp.
Leopard vt-2 medium 2.93k hp seems legit..
So from all era2 premiums- all the heavies got more HP than t72ural then all the era2 mediums got more HP than t72ural and then rdf, mauler, type63, hiss, ahiss which is 5 LTs got more HP than "heavy" t72ural
And then obj934 and Amx got only 50hp less than "heavy" t72ural.
Only premiums that got even less HP than t72 are one LT and one TD: armadillo 2.1k, ontos 2.19k
So was t72ural supposed to be LT because it definetely aint heavy or medium. Pls fix this nonsense

toxic barn
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Maybe... Just maybe..the Ural is NOT a top tier heavy

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The t72m1 and fv4211 and Monat/cat are all top tier heavies

spiral gorge
toxic barn
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T72s are fast heavies with a bit of armour, the m103a2 is a true heavy tank

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I mean not every Premium tank has to be great, the Ural is just a bottom tier tank in that era.

verbal flame
# toxic barn Maybe... Just maybe..the Ural is NOT a top tier heavy

I totally despise "opinions" like this, it s getting too old, u just couldnt help urself, could u? Thank u for sharing this pearl if wisdom i see u really took ur time reading what i wrote before sharing ur half baked "thought".
Maybe try to read first and then reply.
In case u have some kind of disability let me just give quick recap for free:

  • t72ural has less hitpoints than ALL of premium era2 heavies
    -t72ural has less hitpoints than ALL of premium era2 mediums
    -t72ural has less hitpoints than 60% of premium era2 light tanks

Now read this and burn it into ur brain
And before trying to come with another "pearl" and "thought" NO! T72ural doesnt have any significant advantage over these heavies and premiums and LTs to justify these extremely low hitpoints.
They need to fix this or reclasify this "heavy".

spiral gorge
# toxic barn T72s are fast heavies with a bit of armour, the m103a2 is a true heavy tank

If you look at heavy tank health in era 2 they are fairly standard. The M103A2 has to have some of the worst effective armor in era 2.

2350 - T-72 Ural (tier 1)
2500-2700 - M1032 (tier 1)
2650-2950 - Conqueror Mk.1, Conqueror Mk.2, T-72A (tier 2)
2700-3100 - TR-125. T-72AV, Chieftain Mk.5, Chieftain Hybrid 120, T-72M1, Mobat, Cat, FV4211, Leopard 2AV, (tier 3)

The lowest HP numbers are from stock turrets in era 2.

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The Ural should at least have 2500 HP.

toxic barn
# verbal flame I totally despise "opinions" like this, it s getting too old, u just couldnt hel...

The Ural has less Hotpoints bc it's a stock t72 in bottom tier.
Just deal with it.

You are right saying that all the other stock bottom heavies have more HP.

But the Russian t72 line, even in era 3 don't play like true heavies 🙂
If you would compare it to ww2, they are like heavy mediums.

If you want WG to buff the Ural, just take a sneak peak at the t72m1. Same Playstyle but better in every singe way.

Power creep is real in CW

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I'm not saying you are wrong, it's just WG adding better tanks everytime, bc they want money.

verbal flame
toxic barn
verbal flame
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"Faced with the production problems and high cost of the complex T-64 tank, the Soviet Union initiated the Object 172 project to develop a new main battle tank that would retain the T-64’s best features, including its light weight, 125mm cannon, and use of an autoloader to reduce crew size. The result, the T-72, was considered an effective "wartime production" version of the T-64. It became the most-used tank throughout the Warsaw Pact from the 1970s to the 1990s."
I wonder if devs thought of Ural as autoloader tank. I get it it s supposed to be lightweight, but geez more fragile looking vehicles got more HP.

toxic barn
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All Russia tanks have the autoloader

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Even the t62 has one

verbal flame
toxic barn
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They have also a billion versions from the centurion and skinned/u skinned tanks.
Classic WG move

crude jolt
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t72 Ural is trash

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there's nothing good about it due to the t72m existing

toxic barn
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True

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T72av is the best, t72m1 for gold farm and Ural is baaaad