#Allegiance Season Feedback Thread

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hollow sparrow
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Let us know all your thoughts about the new season & update here:

As a reminder, here's a few things you might want to comment on:

  • ASTRON Rex 105mm
  • Object 780
  • Other Season Rewards
  • Ribbons
  • Arty 2.0 (No hate or bashing!)
  • Spectator HUD QoL

Also feel free to drop comments about other releases throughout the season

viscid sapphire
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I approve of the direction of Arty 2.0
Requires review to fine tune the intent and a look at reducing the HP gains to compensate.

Overall their 1 shot potential is capped but their nuisance factor has been increased.

Also HUD and 2ScumbagAiming is nice

royal musk
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Still 3 Arties sucks. Slow TDs and Heavies are feeling the pain. Way mich better with only on Arty per game!

tawdry oriole
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Season rewards look really good this time but don’t like the way the season points have changed. I only play casually (work shifts permitting) so the last season was a let down as it started to feel like a second job!
I know it’s a business and blah blah blah but why make it harder for players with other commitments?
I’ve always got the ultimate pass but this season I think I’ll pass on it as one job is enough for me.
Censored for rantiness!

gaunt frost
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I wants to turn off the Arty 2.0 because it make the game less real. I like surprise arty hits. It was very fair. Now it is not fair.

haughty forge
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See lots of people saying new arty is terrible, change it before it’s too late

dusty ravine
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Because the gun carriage can tank the shot no problems

jade pike
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1: arty changes are a step in the right direction.

2: please make the ribbons optional.

sick patrol
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Ok I am gonna need to have WG let me bring my BMP 2 into WW2 to "balance" the Arty problem. Seems fair to me.

dusty ravine
royal musk
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Once you are dead all ribbons and damage indicator is gone

jade pike
dusty ravine
jade pike
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it won't change the math

random bough
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The fact they buffed artillery it was very simple WG in needed a flat out damage reduction

regal kindle
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Nerfing the alpha of artilleries by 40% was a great idea.
Buffing their reload, aim time, accuracy, and health??- is beyond me how anyone could think it's a good idea. 6.0 skills are a thing -__-

tribal dune
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While it's great that the ribbons have returned, for me, they stand out like a sore thumb in the UI and actually somewhat take me out of the game as they really do not march the style.

The UI is quite minimalist so I'd suggest adding to the backlog for the Art Department to update the visuals of the ribbons to complement the battle UI better.

drifting finch
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I have downloaded the update, but not played yet. So I don't know how Arty 2 turned out. However, I am happy that you are trying something.

dusk siren
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Spectator HUD now doesn't show any damage or assisted numbers for the tank you are spectating? I'm assuming that is a bug? This season is absolutely horrible as far as CW rewards (are there any??). Between this season having no CW rewards, and the really poor week 1 CW sale, many streamers/CW players aren't too thrilled. It also makes it harder to get players to return/try CW when everything is WWII. It will take much longer to finish this season with the point changes... not a good thing for casuals.

regal kindle
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The health buffs are insane. 1.3k HP is way too much for an artillery... Being able to take 3 shots from a 390 alpha gun and still be alive to kill them is insane.

drifting finch
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#memes-and-images message

sand glacier
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Ok so you cha ged Arty, messed with the Camo, can we get the Power to weight ratio and handling upgraded to compensate?

drifting finch
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I did pause when I saw large buffs to arty accuracy and dispersion. Large health increases too. Perhaps the damage reduction and corresponding reload increase would have been enough. But like I said I have not launched a match yet.

chrome ledge
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They need to make it 1 arty per team having 3 all being able to shoot so fast is ridiculous

regal kindle
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GW Tiger: Hitting people for 300-500 dmg instead of 600-1000 is great. But you reload so fast now and are so accurate that it doesn't matter, you end up doing more than pre-arty-2.0 🤦‍♀️ Again, especially with the health buff.

drifting finch
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I am glad BAM1500 said Arty 2.0 was a 'live test' and not set in stone.

haughty forge
gloomy thorn
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I haven't done enough battles to set my mind on it ... But from what I saw :
👍 - Ribbons comeback is great
👍 - Arty sixth sense is VERY great (and hopefully there is that to dodge new arty accuracy)
👍 - Arty does not kill with one shot (or takes out 80% of your health) anymore.
0️⃣ - It's ... Neither great or bad ... But sure the improved accuracy seems strange ... But at least I do not feel as betrayed by the game as before when they manage to hit me. I don't think as much "God damn it ! He was just lucky with his RNG to hit me !".
(little) 👎 - Not something huge ... But am I the only to think sixth sense alert sounds aren't loud enough ?
👎 - I can understand the improved reload to keep DPM the same (I don't like it ... But fair enough : they don't one shot anymore and it allows, let's be honest, this frustrating class to play to be more consistent) ... But I don't get why the buff to HP ... And what a massive buff !
If you want to keep it, decrease the DPM, so it constitutes a trade with their improved reliability ( = Have more possibilities to hit tank ... But in exchange you shoot less often)... Or decrease the buff to HP. Their privilege to stay at back of the map should come with a price.

Up to now, those are my conclusion about the update. Not a massive one, but with good ideas :), even for arty (despite my high dislike about this class I do not play anymore since years). But once again, it still first day, lets see how does it go with time.

rain vault
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Ribbons are disappointing. They disappear when you die and are not shown in the postaction report. What's the point in doing something only half

drifting finch
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I think many are looking at these arty changes in the wrong way. Yes, they may not have it right yet. However, it shows just how far they are willing to go the rebalance arty. A lot!

Many were not satisfied with the very minor changes to arty over the summer. This is a gigantic change. I am sure they will adjust it more to get it dialed in. But it shows they are willing to make dramatic changes to arty to improve the game.

real dust
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i would rather be one shot then die a slow death to arty

long lake
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Ribbons are disappointing. They disappear when you die and are not shown in the postaction report. What's the point in doing something only half

It's been specifically mentioned in the #wotma-bulletin channel / last friday's stream that the Ribbons in PBRS weren't ready for 7.9 - they will be introduced there as soon as we can make it happen

soft oriole
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I have just had ten battles and I only had two victories... I stopped because it is not possible to continue in these circumstances (like at the start of each new season...).

I was able to see the changes concerning the artillery: it was time to make these changes which are much better.

I hope that soon only one artillery will be authorized per team, because 3 are too many, especially since players like me are strangely constantly targeted by artillery...

The return of the ribbons is great! I'm happy and I'm sure that many players who have known the ribbons must be happy too.
But we don't see them anymore when our tank is destroyed, and we don't see the ribbons of our allies, sad...

I'm happy to see a level 10 tank offered in the season.

I just find it a pity that the Soviet flag is missing in the picture with the three soldiers and the three flags (UK, USA and France), Soviet union is one the main winners of WW2 as well, I hope it's not for political reasons...

gloomy thorn
swift ingot
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After dying it would be fun to browse through teammates to see their ribbons.

jade basin
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Garage is alot cleaner and smoother nice QoL improvements, engineers have done great job this update, wish there was more CW content in season and CW contracts and CW premiums in keycards.

fair nexus
summer juniper
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I think you should remove the HP buffs you gave the arty's, other then that the arty changes are fine in my opinion

real dust
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yea im selling both my arty now

clear horizon
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I feel like if you’re going to decrease the damage of artillery, you should also decrease the price of the ammo

inland dune
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Ribbons are welcome . Arty targeted sound as well. Don't find it entertaining at all with arty shooting not stop as it feels, less DMG ,but way too often. Combination of two or more Artillery is overkill. Why couldn't you guys just reduce the DMG and just leave at that? Mind boggling.

swift ingot
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How does this compare to PC arty 2.0? Did they only reduce the damage on PC?

regal kindle
rare jacinth
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Spectate not statistic fails

river aurora
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Played quite a few games today and you cant play a slower heavy or td because if you play against 2/3 artys wich can shoot every 10-15 seconds each you are more or less unable to do anything cause you get arty spammed the whole game

stuck stump
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Can we not get a Male commander for the next season? It seems like for the past 2 seasons you guys have been pushing out more female commanders for some reason. Thinking this was supposed to be a WWII season I expected something a little more realistic. The only female commander that I know of from WWII was from the Russian wife of a tank commander whom I believe was killed in action so she bought the T-34 I believe & went to go fight.
Also, I believe the equipment is bugged for the Stabilizer, I added it to the premium tank & it did not change it at all.

swift ingot
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I want a 3D Oddball commander. Bonus if we can have his voice.

rigid coral
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I know others have said it but not being able to see your damage - or any of your teammates' - when you are spectating really takes the fun away from spectating.

stuck stump
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Here's a feedback.. quit giving us so many female commanders & make it a bit more realistic & give us male commanders back. It's annoying only getting female commanders & not even having the option to choose if we want 1 or the other. On top of that, bring back the 2D commanders like before for every nation. We don't want to pay 500k silver every single time for a new "3D" commander with ONLY 1 perk slot.

full siren
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My feedback on Arty 2.0 is that even though it was aimed to be a nerf, it is more of a buff for SPGs all together, for example the BC155-58 has more damage potential per clip than before the changes and the aim time buff is making it easier to hit targets, Arty 2.0 was necessary to reduce damage from 1 shell.

On a more positive note the re-introduction of Ribbons is great easier to read info on the fly (such as kills and how many shot you have hit)!

jade pike
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@full siren it was never meant to be a nerf, were did you hear that?

hidden locust
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Ribbons are back - thats cool but trophy "Eyes peeled" not poping after requirements are met - thats not cool

ivory pine
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Haven't played Arty yet, but for now the things I noticed are the missing ribbons and damage counters in the spectator view, as some said before. The new 'detected', or sixth sense, sound for normal tanks seems a bit too subtile, it should be louder, i can't really tell if I'm detected or already targeted.
And with the return of damage ribbons I was hoping to get my 'Eyes Peeled' trophy for PS5 finally done, but it still seems to be broken.

kindred schooner
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Yeah the noise for when you are spotted is way to quiet. And also the fact arty seems to have twice as much hp, shoot a lot faster, and more accurate seems stupid. Even as someone who sometimes plays arty that seems dumb. They should of just left it as it was. Might be a unpopular opinion but I think it was fine the way it was.

regal kindle
dapper raft
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I sold my arty its trash now xD

covert rock
distant bramble
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i don't like that the commander from the ultimate pass was already commanding the astron rex tank -- means that you need to use gold to get it to any nation other than USA

hidden perch
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Shame that the garage hasn’t changed to reflect the winter season. Arty nerf is good, and the notifications noise (spotted & sixth sense) has brought back some memories

rain vault
deft vortex
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So far ive had some great games in the ASTRON and its a very fun tank, the ribbons are a very welcome sight to see and great nostalgia. The arty 2.0 does need a few slight reworks, such as the accuracy and reload put back to the original versions before 2.0, but the HP is fine in my eyes. Oh and the notification noises are also kinda cool but take time to get used to.

topaz parcel
fair spoke
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HP buff for arty is broken, get it back to normal

azure kindle
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As an artillery only player, I'd like to say that I'm thoroughly enjoying Arty 2.0, best thing to happen to the game in a while. Arty now more flexible, more resistant to counter-battery and light tank attacks, now with the ability to influence the behaviour of enemy tanks without even firing via the arty warning. Just more enjoyable overall, I can see many more players wanting to play the class now. Just saw a T92 do 7K damage, so overall damage potential similar, if not increased due to increased flexibility.

haughty forge
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Why can’t we see our damage or Friendly’s damage when spectating? We need this back ASAP.

warped owl
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After i bought the astron and played a while, i have to say the tank is a little bit overpowerd. i nearly clipped a full live kv-3, a t7 heavy, with a single magazin. just missed the last shot.

the tank feels like a bourrasque on steroids.

drifting finch
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I do have one complaint. You guys messed with the 6th sense sound notification. It is quieter and different. Not cool. You just can't do something like that. I didn't realize I was spotted half the time.

Change it back ASAP.

cerulean sundial
quasi torrent
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you have no idea how much damage you have done if you die prior to the end of the game. please fix

copper lake
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Artillery late game doesn’t have the same weight to it when you land a hit. It doesn’t feel fun to land a shell just for a 240m gun to do 400 damage.

The FV304 didn’t need the damage nerf I feel either. Dropping an already small guns alpha further seems to punish it for something it’s not responsible for.

Happy to see the ribbons are back though, Nice little thing to keep track of.

steady jacinth
mossy lynx
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ARTY is so much more fun to play now. 😁

hollow creek
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If you can cap the number of arty per team to 2 I think that would be the perfect middle ground for everyone. It wouldn't mess the matchmaker up too much from what I've considered. Won't be able to play today so I don't have more feedback than that at the moment

halcyon valley
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I recommend removing two equipment slots and nullifying all accuracy and reload perks. What we got is 6.0 2.0

coral narwhal
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Arty 2.0 is clearly an overall buff to arty. Which is the opposite of what we asked for.

The new season is cool tho.

strange bone
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As somone who has only gone up the arty lines because I had nothing else to grind, these changes made arty more annoying to fight against while also making the class much less fun to play at high tiers. One of my favorite things to do was to counter battery, with these changes that play style is no longer even viable. Spend 1 or 2 minutes targeting arty only to get a direct hit but only deal 200-400 damage because it didnt pen, and now the other SPG knows its being targeted and relocates. If you want to give them more health just turn them into direct fire tanks and actually properly balance them (indirect less health, direct fire more health and better gun) . The indirect fire aspect needed a flat nerf, not a rebalancing.

Its a shame that the arty changes had to launch at the beginning of the season. They overshadow any of the nicer aspects that the season had to offer.

raw plaza
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1 step forward 5 steps back so far for this season

lone drift
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You changed the damage on other tanks too. Why is my SU-152 doing only 400 damage with premium rounds?

sage sonnet
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High damage artillery feel okay, low damage artillery (the FV304 in particular) feel like they’re shooting spitballs. The HP buff makes hunting artillery in the late game absolutely miserable and far more dangerous than it already was. Arguably the most egregious SPG in the game, the Sexton I, still one-shots tanks at tier III every 5 seconds with pinpoint accuracy. Not good for player retention.

Damage statistics disappear upon death nor can you see the statistics of your teammates as you switch to spectate them.

The HEAT rounds on the SU-152 and Dreadnought appear to have received a significant (and welcome) damage nerf but I can’t find any information about that in the listed patch notes.

strange bone
clear horizon
strange bone
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idk

spring plank
swift ingot
soft oriole
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I forgot earlier to mention that it is a great idea to see a neutral turret during the battles.
It was weird to see an Abrams while You were playing a T-34 or T-72... or whatever You play

sand kettle
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all they did was shorting the reload on most of the arty everything else with them was nerfed, added 2 rounds to the tier 10 batchat like 7 secs between rounds lol

distant bramble
raw plaza
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There seems to be a lot of bugs so far this season.

rare jacinth
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This is arty buff no nerf, bad update

sand glacier
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Dont listen to the Artyhaters, they are going to be upset about any change to Arty thats not a nerf.

About time Artys more consistent 👏

long heron
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Kinda seems a buff to arty and the rest of the tanks get a little indicator to know when 1 of 5 arty are looking at you to balance.. lol

gloomy thorn
# sand glacier Dont listen to the Artyhaters, they are going to be upset about any change to Ar...

Despite my despise for artillery, I admit I'm ... I don't believe I'm saying this ... "Happy" arty is less subject to RNG, more consistent. Because it was kinda infuriating to be killed by arty just because RNG decided to "work" this time in its favor.
That won't push me to play artillery (I want to keep what is left from my soul MINTO ) ... But it looks less frustrating to play : if you aim correctly, it looks like you should land more often it ... Like a normal tank.

But I keep wondering (like a lot from what I saw) "Why the HP buff, tho ???".

And by the way, it's not because "artyhaters" don't like the changes we shouldn't listen to their feedback 🤔 ... Those with arguments and are arguing with respect, I mean. But it works in both way.

So no, we have to listen to those not liking arty ... The same way we have to listen those playing this class too 🙂 (Once again, I don't like the class, not its players)
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At least, now arty can be a greater source of assist for me and my light/ sort of light tanks MINTO .

jade pike
tribal dune
rare jacinth
jade pike
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arty 2.0 was never meant to be nerf.

rare jacinth
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and that's a real mistake

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arty spoils the game, i play them the chips crash

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why can't you see statistics in postmortem mode?

mossy lynx
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I am enjoying the changes to artillery, it's a refreshing and surprising change to the game.

rare jacinth
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3 artys game omg stupid

torpid torrent
regal kindle
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Artillery 2.0 is only really a nightmare because of 3 artillery per team being back. With only 1 artillery it's kind of pretty nice rebalance. Especially with the health buff.
In my GW Tiger I used to hit Maus's for 800. Now? 123. 250.
Artillery reloads faster and is "more accurate" (in the GW Tiger I still miss alot. And I cannot count on splash damage), but when hitting tanks you hit for such less. Even hitting a Grille 15 in the side only did 600dmg. Whereas before 2.0 that might've dealt close to 1k dmg.
Like, this really is not a bad rebalance.
Even for artilleries that have crazy reloads like the Object 261. Would be fine if there was only one artillery per match.
Edit: Oh the AP rounds definitely need to be removed from artillery, still. That has been needed for a long time...

winter kernel
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I really like toe OG stuff making a comeback like the ribbons, the voice overs in game and the original you’ve been spotted warnings. Will be seeing the return of a few more maps soon? We will see the return of the OG WEEKEND RANKED BATTLES?

unkempt cypress
regal kindle
# unkempt cypress Totally agree. Arty just got balanced and became a support class, yet people are...

The Health buff seems crazy but, if it was only one artillery per game, it wouldn't be a problem. It makes the artillery seem like a mini-boss. Like the giant turrets you have to take out in the Frontline gamemode on PC xd
The rebalance is pretty darn good. Like WG said last month they just need to figure out how to make so 1 artillery per match is possible without long queue times.
The reloads might need to be tweaked for certain arties. But overall, great update.

meager obsidian
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Make it where u can see ur own stats when u die and your platoons stats hide the potatos stats I wanna see mine

meager obsidian
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this is horrable

meager obsidian
topaz pumice
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I think the ribbon system needs a bit of work. At least keep them visible once we are dead. Thx

trail falcon
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Would like the notification sound to be changeable/adjustable, it is a bit too quiet for my liking

I play CW now, so not too concerned with Arty 2.0. Feel the RNG and damage changes are good, notice more consistency in damage dealt per shot in CW era 1 especially

azure kindle
# jade pike arty players seem to say the exact opposite

I think most arty players just play for the big alpha lols. Taken as a overall package, I think half decent arty players will recognise that the changes make the class less team and RNG dependant and more flexible and skill-based. In the same way decent players recognise that limiting arty to 1 per team is not only good for the game, but good for the arty player that wants to do well. Actually for arty players who want to influence the game result, they will also recognise that the detection change is also a buff, which can be worked around, but also used to panic enemy players and force them into bad positions.

short brook
fleet quiver
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Why is the damage, assist, blocked removed from my screen when I die in battle? I like to review my scores while watching the others play.

drifting finch
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Is two arty per team an option, if one is off the table?

azure kindle
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People complain about things, then don't like the changes they get because they didn't really think about or understand the consequences. Happens a lot in life generally.

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I think many people were expecting arty to be nerfed into oblivion and to then enjoy arty players being on here crying and screaming about it, but are now annoyed and confused when that hasn't happened....🤣

viscid sapphire
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Erm.

They didn’t just change one for another, they added other benefits like having more HP than lights

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Anyways, New detected audio is pleasant reminds me of PC I think had or has, but needs to be a more prominent icon somehow and closer to the left of the HUD

regal monolith
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Glad the Ribbons are back, this will help with a visual account on what track, spotting damage etc your doing whist you are still in the battle…..only thing is all that info disappears on screen when you get killed and on your team mates while your watching the rest of the battle….

lofty gyro
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So Thoughts on the New Season. New Tanks in the Season Pass cool (Would of liked to maybe seem more additional Content.

In Short Italian TDs , YOH Tanks , Soviet Double barrels (additional CW Lines when?)

Arty 2.0 - Defiantly a Step in the Right Direction - Health Buff was dumb but admittedly does lead to some fun shenanigans + More HP to farm end game is also pretty nice.

Though given the Rate of Fire and accuracy buffs I think AP/HEAT rounds needed to be removed or at least tweaked as Arty with Strong AP rounds are now more powerful than ever before but on the Whole Changes were okay.

Though I think with Concealment Nerfs maybe some arty could use some additional focus mainly looking at the Bishop and the FV304 and FV305 just due to thier extremely limited range as now you cant rely on Camo to remain undetected while supporting the front line you basically have to prey you get the right map with the right circumstances to have impact while other arty can still pretty comfortably Sit at the back of the map and continue life as usual.

Shell Cost Changes imo were kinda dumb if anything since 6.0 broke the Ecconomy you should be looking at ways to improve Credit profitability rather than decrease it (Sure Cold War Mode exists for Silver farming) but a lot of us still have a lot of Tier 8 prems which are basically obselete as they dont earn enough. Maybe look at Reducing Shell and repair costs or at least increase the base profitibility of Most tanks (Mainly in Classic mode by 20-30%)

Ribons these are a nice return would of been nice to have the option to turn them off for those who do not like the Clutter but they are a nice peice of Nostaligia for those who played the Game back in 2015 additionally it does bring back a little bit of identity to the game.

Though why you guys messed up the Alpha on the Tiger 2 , VKA and SU-152 I will never know
(Yes I know its bug but really it should of been patched with the Server restart come on its not difficult) additionally why was the Spectating hud changed again?

Personally what I would like to see - Retired tanks being returned to the TT or at least add a Collectors Tab like PC so people can obtain removed TT vehicles.

Bringback more Maps (Sacred Vally, Ruinburg and Live oaks) Probably the Top 3 I want to see return

Make more CW Specific maps

Bringback classic 2D commanders as an Option

Increase Max Crew Skills from 9 to 12 (Like those Demon 2D commanders from last Season)

Additionally some additional Mini-map enchancements like Last spotted would also be nice

molten pulsar
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Arty 2.0 is a total flop, they fire faster and they track you so there teammates destroy you, one arty is already a burden but when you see 2-3 in a match you cant move anywhere without a constant barrage of shells, it ruins the game. Try playing a superheavy and getting to a line without being barraged by countless salvos of artillary. The light tanks you put into the game that are the size of gnomes doing 60-70 kph can see us from across the map, literally the other day on Thiepval Ridge the game starts and lights are already there good luck moving. If you arty players want to say playing arty is hard and challenging watch QB playing arty while eating a sandwich, the class is a joke. Wargaming if you want to make your players happy who are literally keeping you in business here are some suggestions. Quit buffing arty they dont need it, Give us more maps, you have literally taken more maps out than we are playing on and if your designers cant get it done then bring back the old maps its simple. There is no reason why it should take a year to get one map! Also bring back the demounting parts for full silver and the cost was, I think it was 10 gold at the time. Your half price return is like a dirty used car salesman. Matchmaking +1_-1 thats where it should be how can a tier 6 player take on tanks that literally have twice the Hit points they have. And before you say shoot gold well if your trying to get that next piece of equipment thats 450,000 silver for one piece and then your team loses you lose silver and if you win its 5k-25k if your not on a premium account or prem tank. This is a game were already dealing with inflation in real life we dont want to deal with it in a game. And possibly have a vote system before the match with 3 maps like COD does. However on a positive note having a tier 10 reward tank is great.

rain vault
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Further, the Season is too long with 10 weeks. The content of all passes too little for me as a CW player. Ribbons is have compleet. Not a great season.

marsh grove
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this is certainly the worst update that incompetent wargaming developers have been able to release. At this stage it's really taking the players for idiots. apart from releasing the same tanks 36 times with a different skin, they are good for nothing! and in view of the violence of the artillery level nerve which literally changes the way of playing them they should have offered to those who wish to do so to reimburse the exp for the lost time has set up a line.

keen pawn
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i'm glad ribbons are back but i need them to be bigger , i swear they used to be bigger

regal kindle
hushed sage
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I don't think Bake GingerBread is working I have 18 Coal and try to use and it does nothing.

keen pawn
scarlet barn
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What happened here. You can't be serious to this Arty update.... Batchat Arty with 12 sec reload. In general better Aimtime, better accuracy, better reload and more hitpoints. If you wanna loose more players do it exactly like this... 💪👍

velvet oar
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Ribbons - 🏅👌

New arty alert 👍🏻

Arty damage decrease 👍🏻

Arty health 👍🏻

Arty aiming time and accurate buff - 👎

Arty reload speed …not with 3 of them in a game 👎 would like to see what it’s like with these changes with 1 arty per side though

RNG seems “off” a lot more extreme outcomes occurring - ammo racking/setting on fire with no module damage, Vs tracks being hit or shots going nowhere when full aimed - 👎

Astron Rex - 👌

garage ui changes - 🤷‍♂️

long heron
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I dont know how they tested it but when 3 arty a side it is hell.. not to mention the constant depth charge warning system.. really with all this it isnt an enjoyable experience at all..

gloomy thorn
# long heron I dont know how they tested it but when 3 arty a side it is hell.. not to mentio...

Honestly, I think no matter the changes they make to arty, having 3 per team is nearly always going to be a nightmare... unless you make arty so long to reload, killing their relevance, so you don't notice them.

As @velvet oar mentionned, we should see how the changes go with just one per team (or two MAX when matchmaker is overloaded).

Arty 2.0 is at least a good try, there is great ideas (less damage, the new sixth sense for them) ... But they seem overtuned now imo.

short void
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If your goal was to make non-artillery play punishing and an overall unenjoyable time, you have succeeded. I will be playing Cold War until I hear of news of arty 2.0 being reverted.

drifting finch
# hushed sage I don't think Bake GingerBread is working I have 18 Coal and try to use and it d...

The bake ginger bread with coal takes a battle or so to work. Press the button to bake. Then play a battle. I had a ton of coal. I pressed the button and nothing happened. Played a battle and logged off. This morning I checked it and the coal was converted. When I looked at it this morning the last one even baked while I was looking at it. It went from 9/5 to 4/5 as I watched.

Apparently, it has to cook in the oven for a while.

hushed sage
warped owl
crimson vapor
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With the coal update I lost 48 coal. It did not go into the gingerbread hunt either

coarse helm
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I want to see my performance figures for the whole game displayed at the top as before. Changes to arty continue to be useless and reason I have sold all ww 2 tanks. Since I only play modern now, I no longer have a real reason to buy key cards as no modern tanks can be won. Very disappointed that this release included no modern tanks.

signal monolith
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BC 155 58 has now 10 sec intra-clip reload and over 40 sec magazine reload while tier 9 BC 155 55 has 11.1 sec reload when fully pimped out. That's awful for BC 155 58. Please un-nerf it's intra-clip reload, there's really no longer reason to play it, tier 9 is just way better now.

hollow rampart
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Disappointed, nothing for cold War. Afew of my friends not bothered with season pass for that reason. Could have had at least 1 tank in the 100 stages.

meager obsidian
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the artys are horid. season pass sucks. Damage after game not seen And u cant see others. And to top it all off u lowered the visiblity of the spotted symble i cant see well and now i cant see it.

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im not buyin season pass or supportin this game further till u fix your screw ups. First put arty health back down make reload longer make acuracy worse. KEEP OLD ARTY BUT NERF DAMAGE AND BUFF HP BY LIKE 100 NOT A Thounsad.

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Fix ur GAME!

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Also today or sometime this week maybe check ur player count from like a week back to now. Its prob lowered by atleast 5%

buoyant goblet
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Ribbons need to be optional. Bring Back Stat display after you’re dead!!

rigid escarp
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Like Ribbons, thanks for bringing them back. Would like to see other players ribbons after death in spectator mode.
For Arty -
Like the separate targeting warning.
Don't like the damage changes. Lower damage and faster loading times, makes arty more annoying, not less. I would prefer they have the longer loading times and the ability to one shot me.
Like the increased HP for Arty, makes it harder to take them out when going against them, and better fighting ability when playing.
Suggest putting Arty damage and reloads back to before change, keep new targeting indicator, keep increased Arty HP, limit number of arty in platoon and match to 2. My biggest issue with arty is numbers because if you get more than 2, arty can position themselves so there are no safe places to position yourself.

drifting finch
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The 6th sense sound alert is on whisper. I can't really hear it. I wondered if I would get used to it. But yesterday I really couldn't hear it at all. The old sound is what I am used to and could hear every time.

Please change it back. Some players may be able to hear it fine. But I can't. I am sure others have trouble hearing it too.

The 6th sense sound is a core mechanic. That is not something you change.

clear horizon
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I don’t really mind this season. I mostly played Cold War so artillery 2.0 doesn’t really bother me too much. I just wish you people would stop releasing each new season with a bunch of bugs and just take your time to properly program the game for once.

bold burrow
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Arty change sucks. Everything was said already. I understand why. But its the wrong way. And this was aprooved by the supertesters?

rare owl
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love arty 2.0 i can never move as they reload faster so as soon as im spotted im constantly tracked awesome job supertesters for approving horrible arty change

bold pollen
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This season sounded WAY too good for WG C-B so, they had to screw it up that much to not create a single precedent of a proper work on all their story.

wild sentinel
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Did this update reset anyone else’s big top contract again? Swear I was nearing done twice.

drifting finch
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I am not sure if the Holiday Ops is considered part of the Allegiance Season or not. But either way I am looking forward to Arnold 💪 😎 👍 and Milla. 😊

bold pollen
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Is an special Op. as the name suggests? It became crystal clear to me after the Allegiance season was announced.

whole bone
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Disappointed in the ribbons, would love an option to turn off. They are annoying and childish. The game has been evolving in a positive way, hate to see it take a step back because some folks can’t accept change. Reserving judgment on Arty 2.0 but I thought it was supposed to be a nerf and it feels like a buff.

coarse helm
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Display the tank game statistics after I am killed. It is beyond irritating that you took that away. Just do it now.

signal monolith
short brook
signal monolith
# short brook It was changed this update troll.

I know. But it was also changed two years ago, into worse sound compared to that we had pre-6.0. I actually like this new sound that we have now, it sounds very similar to old, classic sound that we pre-6.0. People also complain that is not load enough but it's fine for me.

tall tree
raw plaza
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Better Xmas workshop than last year, much better. Fingers crossed for a real Garage next year.

cyan pewter
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The ribbons are great. Reminds me of when I started.

swift ingot
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Ribbons are great as others have said. I know you are fixing the damage counter post death so that's fine. As for arty, I know my opinion is like a teardrop in the rain but here goes: As is, arty is really only viable if you limit it to one arty per match. If you want more than one per match then at least remove the accuracy buff.

Honestly the -2 matchmaking where only one or three people are the lowest tier tanks bothers me way more than arty but that's a completely different discussion.

drifting finch
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Arty have too many hit points. Way too many. Also the accuracy buffs are crazy, too much.

The new targeted by arty alert is helpful, but isn't enough to offset the arty buffs.☠️

swift ingot
stray nymph
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I’m feeling like the new season really forgot about us (now) Cold War players there’s NO Cold War tank in the season pass, so seeing only wwII tanks nothing new to buy even, going to be pushing WOT to the back of the fridge like a bad left over!

drifting finch
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Too bad Iron Arnie wasn't available in CW too.

stray nymph
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I would have bought it!!!

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But true sight, smoke, and hull patch! No arty bigger health pool, this list goes on and on as to why Cold War is better and more fun! Like don’t get me wrong it all started with wwII (I have over 150 premium tanks in WWII) but WOT has changed, Cold War being the main change! Just a better mode!

swift ingot
silver light
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My feedback for this seaason with my cold war eye. It seems like you left cold war players on their appetite... again. You should have a cold war pass and a ww2 pass.

You launch this mode 2 years ago, some of us have deserted WW2 because we like: no more +2-2, true vision, special feature like atgms or smoke.

Every season we hope for content. But every season we are on our appetite, specially this one.

Same LIMITED map rotation for cold war is really frustrating considering ww2 rotation. We got same map 3 games in a row because we switch tiers between games.

You launched a product and it looks like you discard it. Adding more maps from ww2 (put obstacles to block eye sight for true vision problems) would just make sense.

I would have a lot of other things to say, but this is feedback just for allegiance season.

Also give some incitatives to cold war players to make it more attractive to ww2 players. Player base is anemic and doesn't represent the potential of this game.

Cold war is a very good product but it seems your marketing team doesn't catch it.

drifting finch
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Adding weather to some WW2 maps would make them suitable for CW. Or just some fog, dust and/or haze.

torpid torrent
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WGCB: you should always have content for BOTH WW2 and CW in each season:

If the Stage 100 tank in the Season Pass is a Tier 9 or 10 WW2 tank, then the Free Stage 100 tank should be a CW Era 1 tank.

If the Stage 100 tank in the Season Pass is a CW Era 2 tank, then the Free Stage 100 tank should be a Tier 8 WW2 tank.

stray nymph
stray nymph
compact kiln
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When I am in my e100 or and slow heavy tank and I see artillery on the other team I just quit wot.

fallow hemlock
leaden siren
leaden siren
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Granted that’s the only arty I’ve played, but seeing as how all arty received the same changes I’d expect the CGC and GW etc… to be better as well

warped owl
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i think the camo net is too powerfull. tds was normally belanced over viewrange. but a taran and some other can outspot some lights. that should not be possible.

fair nexus
raw plaza
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Toy mode can something be done with the zero silver return on a loss? It gets old pretty quick with no return for a 'fun' game.

tall tree
warped owl
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because tds was balanced with a low view range. so that every class has his own role. its rediclous that one tank class have the hightest alpha and penetration, in combination with high camo and view range as well

fair nexus
quiet tide
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Feedback fix the game. I cant look after battle how was the score. Again again again. I cant see the player results in game after I get kill. Before works after update we are in 18 century. 🙈🙈🙈🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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With the arty is this jaké????? I play with my VZ 55 and 3 arty each sítě. I get focus from all 3 arty. I never Camp I like to fight face to face. But now I srop play and download wartander because I dont have any funn more. And like every year I spend 100€ for fu. This time I spend the money in war tunder. And I think aim not alone.

drifting finch
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Arty really need to be dialed back.

fair nexus
tall tree
raw plaza
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Team Milla complete

plain girder
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Why not just

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Make arty blind fire on indirect fires in satellite view. Idk, it'd be not hard to remove rendering the models in sata view on non Los targets. And like... while it wouldn't fix arty... idk, if you also turn off their magic radio range fix in spg mode, I guess you'd provide incentive to use their extra survivability? They'd have to blind shot everyone based on shell tracers, map props, and the minimap (radio affects this from longer distances). Idk, it doesn't fix everything but I just thought of it to make arties more like... idk, skill based?

fallow hemlock
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I think that it’s great idea to actually have a use of radio and signal range for the arty like for the other tanks…

hearty shuttle
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It’s fackin horrible-you removed the ability to see dmg..for what ? So we don’t call out campers and scumbags.

torpid torrent
drifting finch
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If the ShPTK-TVP 100 was a Cold War tank, I would have bought it.

west surge
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New map is bad . Please don't add it to the higher tiers . Camping sim map

azure kindle
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Nothing for cold war, skip.

fair nexus
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Season was nice so far 👍 a bit to easy. Without Cold War rewards it was a pleasure to play trough

drifting finch
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For the level 100 season pass tank, can we ever have a choice between a WW2 and a CW tank? I would have picked a CW tank even if it wasn't brand new. Or really just make the same tank for both modes. Like the NM 116.

tall tree
fair nexus
torpid torrent
# fair nexus This would split the player base even more.

Why would this split the player base? You could still play WW2 or CW to get rewards towards either pass, the only difference would be the Stage 100 reward (on further thought they could make the consumables Era dependent as well - if you mostly play WE2 you don’t need smoke screens or hull patch kits)

fair nexus
stray nymph
drifting finch
molten pulsar
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The silver bonus should stay that way this way you can actually play the game. The way matchmaking is setting up games where your always low tier your always in the negative, or barely making a few thousand profit.

hollow rampart
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Nothing for CW in the new year,
It is called "Modern Warfare " is it not?

fair nexus
hollow rampart
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@fair nexus what has warthunder got to do with what l asked?

fair nexus
regal kindle
stray nymph
stray nymph
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Most if not all seasons have had more WWII then Cold War content ALWAYS

stray nymph
regal kindle
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I don't get why people say this season is garbage. When so far its given us more XP and Silver boost events than any prior seasons. Which is super useful for both WW2 And Cold War
On top of fixing the RNG in cold war.
Just because one of the premium tanks in the season isn't a cold war one, doesn't mean the season is ignoring cold warJUSTfacePalm

opaque solar
regal kindle
opaque solar
signal monolith
gloomy thorn
# signal monolith Eer, we had more than enough CW tanks imo 😡 FYI, I don't play CW, never have an...

It's not because you don't play CW nobody does.
I don't play CW too. I don't have time to grind WW2 tanks AND CW ones (... Plus I don't have money issue but I'm aware it isn't the case for everyone).
However, I understand those feeling the lack of content for this mode. We, genuinely, like when there's new content. So not having it can be disapointing.
But in the past, priority was given to CW (to give "reasons" to play this mdoe). Now it is given to WW2.

opaque solar
hollow rampart
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Two points, if it's split the player base then people must be playing C.W.
Second do people not watch any you tube you wil find plenty of C.W. video's there .Top players too.
All my games are full of C.w. players all my clan too.
Try Rikitikitave on you tube he's just one of many.

opaque solar
hollow rampart
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Nope

azure kindle
opaque solar
azure kindle
opaque solar
azure kindle
opaque solar
azure kindle
fair nexus
azure kindle
hollow rampart
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@fair nexus lts a game?
Gosh

fair nexus
fair nexus
azure kindle
fair nexus
azure kindle
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Just that the grinds are truly horrible in wt, that's why I quit playing it

fair nexus
hollow rampart
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@fair nexus
Where are you getting all this stuff from, all that was asked was they could have offered 1 cw tank.
Jeez

azure kindle
fair nexus
fossil citrus
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The arty 2.0 was a "good" step. Its nice to see the artillery dmg nerfed by 40%, however, its unfair to play against 3 artillerys, and the buff on reload/aim time/accuracy was the worst thing WG ever did. For the next season to be perfect, you can nerf the reload, aim time and accuracy to what it was before 2.0 keeping the alpha reduced by 40%, and if possible, limit it to 1 artillery per team. But just nerfing reload/aim time/accuracy is enough for me!

azure kindle
fair nexus
azure kindle
fair nexus
azure kindle
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We should nerf arty to be inaccurate and do little damage. Light tanks should be made half as fast. Medium tanks have no more than 5 rounds of ammo and no reverse speed. And heavy tanks should have no armor. Tank destroyers should have very poor penetration. Then finally this game will be amazing.

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Also clearly too many tanks. Get rid if them all and just keep Machine and maybe Taran.

sharp sequoia
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Bonus 150% for silver and xp JG.PZ. E 100 line
Ferdinand have boost,
Japanther 2 nope 🤔

timid bay
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Arty

  • The only downside of the topics. My simple vote is a very clear STOP, just STOP.

The only people that are going to tell you how much they love rt, is those who love playing Artie regularly. I immediately noticed the difference, and I wasn't aware there'd been a change. I'm sure you guys have the statistics, but getting hit every 8-10 seconds from rt just plain sucks.

I have no problem with ONE per battle, and neither will the one guy playing, because they're going to have more opportunity for HP.

But two of them... focused on you and you're not going to live long. Three of them is in a word, ridiculous. And that's not rhetoric. It's ridiculous, meaning it makes no sense at all from the player perspective.

Definitely enjoyed Allegiance season. I've been away a couple years and I have to confess that seasons do motivate me to play. Primarily getting the tanks.

The pinnacle was the object 780... I really like that tank, it's well balanced compared to standard tier 10s, not OP, but not nerfed.

Key cards, silver, all the rest of it, gold of course, that's all great.

Of course it would be nice to have a 115% commander in the season, or even a 130%.

Year of the Rabbit
-- that was tough work, but again getting a reward T.A.N.K. is what motivated me to play.

Light Tank Addiction

-- As a veteran of the game, introducing extremely fast light tanks, and many more of them, and with killer guns at higher tiers... Overall it makes the game more like an arcade, it takes away from the realism. I don't really drive any slow heavies hardly at all anymore. The game has morphed into mobility/gun/armor, shifting away from gun/armor/mobility.

Premium Tank Fever

  • my question is, what are your motives? You guys would have to tell me. Everybody needs to get paid, I have no problem with that. I don't agree with OP premium tanks, provided you pay $50 to $75.
timid bay
tall tree
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Personally I would prefer that Tier X premium tanks were not given away as part of the season pass (any version). The number of players rolling around in an OBJ780 who have no other tier X tanks (or higher tier for that fact), and thus have little idea what they should be doing is frustrating and impacts higher tier game play. If you must give them away, introduce something which stops them being played until the player completes X games in tech tree tier X tanks.

wind trail
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Honestly i would rather get one banged out the game from a arty then have 3 of the damn things just pepper the hell out of you… and secondly before you decide to take money from adding new tanks in the game make sure you actually make the old and current stuff able to hold up with the new ones because it’s stupid being pay to win instead of skill based… 3rdly i really believe you will get a ton of new/returning players if you remove both NA server and EU servers. Just make it one big massive server like warships legends and put +1/-1 permanently. You will have the players for it to take proper effect.. not to mention that when it was events your player base doubled or nearly tripled then completely dropped when it ended

drifting finch
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Just put the single server in NA...

gaunt hull
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No more long seasons please WG, most of the half decent players have done their season already. Causing a massive gapeing hole in player ability. Normally its just bad but right now and most likely til end of season the game is just plain unplayable. Its just horrid, i know its hard to train the stupids but at least try harder. Dont ask them to go find things out them selves, sub liminally put it in their heads, before battles, like you used to. Give tanks a play style description/subclass with options. And please tell them how usful 6th sense is. Its spud central at the moment, what ever the tier/era

hardy aspen
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Artillery is king of the Battlefield period!!
But some of you want to play in a Butterfly Park .. wear a helmet in case a Butterfly hits ya.