#Allegiance Season Feedback Thread
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I approve of the direction of Arty 2.0
Requires review to fine tune the intent and a look at reducing the HP gains to compensate.
Overall their 1 shot potential is capped but their nuisance factor has been increased.
Also HUD and
is nice
Still 3 Arties sucks. Slow TDs and Heavies are feeling the pain. Way mich better with only on Arty per game!
Season rewards look really good this time but don’t like the way the season points have changed. I only play casually (work shifts permitting) so the last season was a let down as it started to feel like a second job!
I know it’s a business and blah blah blah but why make it harder for players with other commitments?
I’ve always got the ultimate pass but this season I think I’ll pass on it as one job is enough for me.
Censored for rantiness!
I wants to turn off the Arty 2.0 because it make the game less real. I like surprise arty hits. It was very fair. Now it is not fair.
See lots of people saying new arty is terrible, change it before it’s too late
Arty 2.0 is as broken as i feared you cant give that many buffs without significant downsides hp is too much just had a game with 6 arty on himmelsdorf 4 of 6 artys did more damage than the heavies on himmelsdorf had a half health jagdpanzer e100 lose the match for us against a gun carriage on full
Because the gun carriage can tank the shot no problems
1: arty changes are a step in the right direction.
2: please make the ribbons optional.
Ok I am gonna need to have WG let me bring my BMP 2 into WW2 to "balance" the Arty problem. Seems fair to me.
A step in the right direction would be turning them into tank destroyers the reload accuracy and hp are all broken remove all 3 and id say yes a step in the right direction
Once you are dead all ribbons and damage indicator is gone
have you played arty? I did 2 matches in the cgc and got an average dmg of 300 per , wich is less than half of what it was before
its takes a few games to get used to
it won't change the math
The fact they buffed artillery it was very simple WG in needed a flat out damage reduction
Nerfing the alpha of artilleries by 40% was a great idea.
Buffing their reload, aim time, accuracy, and health??- is beyond me how anyone could think it's a good idea. 6.0 skills are a thing -__-
While it's great that the ribbons have returned, for me, they stand out like a sore thumb in the UI and actually somewhat take me out of the game as they really do not march the style.
The UI is quite minimalist so I'd suggest adding to the backlog for the Art Department to update the visuals of the ribbons to complement the battle UI better.
I have downloaded the update, but not played yet. So I don't know how Arty 2 turned out. However, I am happy that you are trying something.
Spectator HUD now doesn't show any damage or assisted numbers for the tank you are spectating? I'm assuming that is a bug? This season is absolutely horrible as far as CW rewards (are there any??). Between this season having no CW rewards, and the really poor week 1 CW sale, many streamers/CW players aren't too thrilled. It also makes it harder to get players to return/try CW when everything is WWII. It will take much longer to finish this season with the point changes... not a good thing for casuals.
yeah, we're not saying it's a terrible idea. It's amazing to finally have some artillery change. But it definitely could have been executed better
The health buffs are insane. 1.3k HP is way too much for an artillery... Being able to take 3 shots from a 390 alpha gun and still be alive to kill them is insane.
#memes-and-images message
Ok so you cha ged Arty, messed with the Camo, can we get the Power to weight ratio and handling upgraded to compensate?
I did pause when I saw large buffs to arty accuracy and dispersion. Large health increases too. Perhaps the damage reduction and corresponding reload increase would have been enough. But like I said I have not launched a match yet.
They need to make it 1 arty per team having 3 all being able to shoot so fast is ridiculous
GW Tiger: Hitting people for 300-500 dmg instead of 600-1000 is great. But you reload so fast now and are so accurate that it doesn't matter, you end up doing more than pre-arty-2.0 🤦♀️ Again, especially with the health buff.
I am glad BAM1500 said Arty 2.0 was a 'live test' and not set in stone.
Yes I hope they stick to this idea of a live test
I haven't done enough battles to set my mind on it ... But from what I saw :
👍 - Ribbons comeback is great
👍 - Arty sixth sense is VERY great (and hopefully there is that to dodge new arty accuracy)
👍 - Arty does not kill with one shot (or takes out 80% of your health) anymore.
0️⃣ - It's ... Neither great or bad ... But sure the improved accuracy seems strange ... But at least I do not feel as betrayed by the game as before when they manage to hit me. I don't think as much "God damn it ! He was just lucky with his RNG to hit me !".
(little) 👎 - Not something huge ... But am I the only to think sixth sense alert sounds aren't loud enough ?
👎 - I can understand the improved reload to keep DPM the same (I don't like it ... But fair enough : they don't one shot anymore and it allows, let's be honest, this frustrating class to play to be more consistent) ... But I don't get why the buff to HP ... And what a massive buff !
If you want to keep it, decrease the DPM, so it constitutes a trade with their improved reliability ( = Have more possibilities to hit tank ... But in exchange you shoot less often)... Or decrease the buff to HP. Their privilege to stay at back of the map should come with a price.
Up to now, those are my conclusion about the update. Not a massive one, but with good ideas :), even for arty (despite my high dislike about this class I do not play anymore since years). But once again, it still first day, lets see how does it go with time.
Ribbons are disappointing. They disappear when you die and are not shown in the postaction report. What's the point in doing something only half
I think many are looking at these arty changes in the wrong way. Yes, they may not have it right yet. However, it shows just how far they are willing to go the rebalance arty. A lot!
Many were not satisfied with the very minor changes to arty over the summer. This is a gigantic change. I am sure they will adjust it more to get it dialed in. But it shows they are willing to make dramatic changes to arty to improve the game.
i would rather be one shot then die a slow death to arty
Ribbons are disappointing. They disappear when you die and are not shown in the postaction report. What's the point in doing something only half
It's been specifically mentioned in the #wotma-bulletin channel / last friday's stream that the Ribbons in PBRS weren't ready for 7.9 - they will be introduced there as soon as we can make it happen
I have just had ten battles and I only had two victories... I stopped because it is not possible to continue in these circumstances (like at the start of each new season...).
I was able to see the changes concerning the artillery: it was time to make these changes which are much better.
I hope that soon only one artillery will be authorized per team, because 3 are too many, especially since players like me are strangely constantly targeted by artillery...
The return of the ribbons is great! I'm happy and I'm sure that many players who have known the ribbons must be happy too.
But we don't see them anymore when our tank is destroyed, and we don't see the ribbons of our allies, sad...
I'm happy to see a level 10 tank offered in the season.
I just find it a pity that the Soviet flag is missing in the picture with the three soldiers and the three flags (UK, USA and France), Soviet union is one the main winners of WW2 as well, I hope it's not for political reasons...
I agree about the limit of arty per team ... At least it would have made changes more well received ... I guess... In my case I would have though "Urgh, they shoot more often ... But at least, there is less of them".
I hope it is a bug, the disappearance of ribbons and stats once we are dead. Not something huge ... But indeed it's annoying.
After dying it would be fun to browse through teammates to see their ribbons.
Garage is alot cleaner and smoother nice QoL improvements, engineers have done great job this update, wish there was more CW content in season and CW contracts and CW premiums in keycards.
I do not play CW. What is this?
I think you should remove the HP buffs you gave the arty's, other then that the arty changes are fine in my opinion
yea im selling both my arty now
I feel like if you’re going to decrease the damage of artillery, you should also decrease the price of the ammo
Ribbons are welcome . Arty targeted sound as well. Don't find it entertaining at all with arty shooting not stop as it feels, less DMG ,but way too often. Combination of two or more Artillery is overkill. Why couldn't you guys just reduce the DMG and just leave at that? Mind boggling.
How does this compare to PC arty 2.0? Did they only reduce the damage on PC?
Their reload should not have been buffed as much as it did.
Turned them into like, higher alpha FV304's ( ._.)
Spectate not statistic fails
Played quite a few games today and you cant play a slower heavy or td because if you play against 2/3 artys wich can shoot every 10-15 seconds each you are more or less unable to do anything cause you get arty spammed the whole game
Can we not get a Male commander for the next season? It seems like for the past 2 seasons you guys have been pushing out more female commanders for some reason. Thinking this was supposed to be a WWII season I expected something a little more realistic. The only female commander that I know of from WWII was from the Russian wife of a tank commander whom I believe was killed in action so she bought the T-34 I believe & went to go fight.
Also, I believe the equipment is bugged for the Stabilizer, I added it to the premium tank & it did not change it at all.
You are correct as we got her as a tank commander two or three seasons ago.
I want a 3D Oddball commander. Bonus if we can have his voice.
I know others have said it but not being able to see your damage - or any of your teammates' - when you are spectating really takes the fun away from spectating.
Here's a feedback.. quit giving us so many female commanders & make it a bit more realistic & give us male commanders back. It's annoying only getting female commanders & not even having the option to choose if we want 1 or the other. On top of that, bring back the 2D commanders like before for every nation. We don't want to pay 500k silver every single time for a new "3D" commander with ONLY 1 perk slot.
With MUCH longer range
My feedback on Arty 2.0 is that even though it was aimed to be a nerf, it is more of a buff for SPGs all together, for example the BC155-58 has more damage potential per clip than before the changes and the aim time buff is making it easier to hit targets, Arty 2.0 was necessary to reduce damage from 1 shell.
On a more positive note the re-introduction of Ribbons is great easier to read info on the fly (such as kills and how many shot you have hit)!
@full siren it was never meant to be a nerf, were did you hear that?
Ribbons are back - thats cool but trophy "Eyes peeled" not poping after requirements are met - thats not cool
Haven't played Arty yet, but for now the things I noticed are the missing ribbons and damage counters in the spectator view, as some said before. The new 'detected', or sixth sense, sound for normal tanks seems a bit too subtile, it should be louder, i can't really tell if I'm detected or already targeted.
And with the return of damage ribbons I was hoping to get my 'Eyes Peeled' trophy for PS5 finally done, but it still seems to be broken.
Yeah the noise for when you are spotted is way to quiet. And also the fact arty seems to have twice as much hp, shoot a lot faster, and more accurate seems stupid. Even as someone who sometimes plays arty that seems dumb. They should of just left it as it was. Might be a unpopular opinion but I think it was fine the way it was.
The notification for 'Detected' is so bad now. Can barely see it 🤦♀️
I sold my arty its trash now xD
yes terribile
Yes
Nah go the other way around. Update the rest of the ui to match the ribbons. Restore the old WoT Console aesthetic
i don't like that the commander from the ultimate pass was already commanding the astron rex tank -- means that you need to use gold to get it to any nation other than USA
Nice catch
Shame that the garage hasn’t changed to reflect the winter season. Arty nerf is good, and the notifications noise (spotted & sixth sense) has brought back some memories
I read the recap in the intell, but it only mentioned the return of the ribbons and that you couldn't disable them. It seems to me the fact that it was half complete was left out. I still wonder why you would launch a half completed feature. But then I remembered that this is the company that released 6.0 into the wild.
So far ive had some great games in the ASTRON and its a very fun tank, the ribbons are a very welcome sight to see and great nostalgia. The arty 2.0 does need a few slight reworks, such as the accuracy and reload put back to the original versions before 2.0, but the HP is fine in my eyes. Oh and the notification noises are also kinda cool but take time to get used to.
They should not have had such a massive buff to HP, I can live with the rest of the changes but that HP buff was unnecessary
HP buff for arty is broken, get it back to normal
As an artillery only player, I'd like to say that I'm thoroughly enjoying Arty 2.0, best thing to happen to the game in a while. Arty now more flexible, more resistant to counter-battery and light tank attacks, now with the ability to influence the behaviour of enemy tanks without even firing via the arty warning. Just more enjoyable overall, I can see many more players wanting to play the class now. Just saw a T92 do 7K damage, so overall damage potential similar, if not increased due to increased flexibility.
Why can’t we see our damage or Friendly’s damage when spectating? We need this back ASAP.
After i bought the astron and played a while, i have to say the tank is a little bit overpowerd. i nearly clipped a full live kv-3, a t7 heavy, with a single magazin. just missed the last shot.
the tank feels like a bourrasque on steroids.
Just bump him out with a US commander. He will then be ready for any tank.
I do have one complaint. You guys messed with the 6th sense sound notification. It is quieter and different. Not cool. You just can't do something like that. I didn't realize I was spotted half the time.
Change it back ASAP.
Put a free commander in the new tank to replace the new commander. New commander will now be free to change any way you want without gold😉
you have no idea how much damage you have done if you die prior to the end of the game. please fix
Artillery late game doesn’t have the same weight to it when you land a hit. It doesn’t feel fun to land a shell just for a 240m gun to do 400 damage.
The FV304 didn’t need the damage nerf I feel either. Dropping an already small guns alpha further seems to punish it for something it’s not responsible for.
Happy to see the ribbons are back though, Nice little thing to keep track of.
Yea I tried to pop the trophy, got x21 spotting assist ribbons but no dice on the trophy. @lunar cove said he will bring up with devs on his stream earlier today, when I mentioned it on chat.
ARTY is so much more fun to play now. 😁
If you can cap the number of arty per team to 2 I think that would be the perfect middle ground for everyone. It wouldn't mess the matchmaker up too much from what I've considered. Won't be able to play today so I don't have more feedback than that at the moment
I recommend removing two equipment slots and nullifying all accuracy and reload perks. What we got is 6.0 2.0
Arty 2.0 is clearly an overall buff to arty. Which is the opposite of what we asked for.
The new season is cool tho.
As somone who has only gone up the arty lines because I had nothing else to grind, these changes made arty more annoying to fight against while also making the class much less fun to play at high tiers. One of my favorite things to do was to counter battery, with these changes that play style is no longer even viable. Spend 1 or 2 minutes targeting arty only to get a direct hit but only deal 200-400 damage because it didnt pen, and now the other SPG knows its being targeted and relocates. If you want to give them more health just turn them into direct fire tanks and actually properly balance them (indirect less health, direct fire more health and better gun) . The indirect fire aspect needed a flat nerf, not a rebalancing.
Its a shame that the arty changes had to launch at the beginning of the season. They overshadow any of the nicer aspects that the season had to offer.
1 step forward 5 steps back so far for this season
You changed the damage on other tanks too. Why is my SU-152 doing only 400 damage with premium rounds?
bug
High damage artillery feel okay, low damage artillery (the FV304 in particular) feel like they’re shooting spitballs. The HP buff makes hunting artillery in the late game absolutely miserable and far more dangerous than it already was. Arguably the most egregious SPG in the game, the Sexton I, still one-shots tanks at tier III every 5 seconds with pinpoint accuracy. Not good for player retention.
Damage statistics disappear upon death nor can you see the statistics of your teammates as you switch to spectate them.
The HEAT rounds on the SU-152 and Dreadnought appear to have received a significant (and welcome) damage nerf but I can’t find any information about that in the listed patch notes.
The damage changes to the russian 152s are a bug.
How does a bug like that even happen?
idk
The change did nothing to improve the game. What they should have done is started with just reducing the damage and leave everything else alone. Thus went the wrong way. Makes playing heavies impossible with 3 arty on each side. Why would you applaud WG for driving people away?
Not just heavies. I just spent all three minutes I was was alive in my Patton driving figure eights as all three arty rained on me. All it took was one red track and then I was toast. Open maps are hell.
I forgot earlier to mention that it is a great idea to see a neutral turret during the battles.
It was weird to see an Abrams while You were playing a T-34 or T-72... or whatever You play
this is the way.
wow.......
all they did was shorting the reload on most of the arty everything else with them was nerfed, added 2 rounds to the tier 10 batchat like 7 secs between rounds lol
thanks! it's too late for me now 😄 but good to know this for the future
There seems to be a lot of bugs so far this season.
This is arty buff no nerf, bad update
Dont listen to the Artyhaters, they are going to be upset about any change to Arty thats not a nerf.
About time Artys more consistent 👏
Kinda seems a buff to arty and the rest of the tanks get a little indicator to know when 1 of 5 arty are looking at you to balance.. lol
Despite my despise for artillery, I admit I'm ... I don't believe I'm saying this ... "Happy" arty is less subject to RNG, more consistent. Because it was kinda infuriating to be killed by arty just because RNG decided to "work" this time in its favor.
That won't push me to play artillery (I want to keep what is left from my soul
) ... But it looks less frustrating to play : if you aim correctly, it looks like you should land more often it ... Like a normal tank.
But I keep wondering (like a lot from what I saw) "Why the HP buff, tho ???".
And by the way, it's not because "artyhaters" don't like the changes we shouldn't listen to their feedback 🤔 ... Those with arguments and are arguing with respect, I mean. But it works in both way.
So no, we have to listen to those not liking arty ... The same way we have to listen those playing this class too 🙂 (Once again, I don't like the class, not its players)
...
At least, now arty can be a greater source of assist for me and my light/ sort of light tanks
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arty players seem to say the exact opposite
Eh I've kinds gotten use to the new UI...it suits Cold War Era. Maybe have the old UI for WWII and the new one for Cold War?
should not accelerate charged
arty 2.0 was never meant to be nerf.
and that's a real mistake
arty spoils the game, i play them the chips crash
why can't you see statistics in postmortem mode?
I am enjoying the changes to artillery, it's a refreshing and surprising change to the game.
3 artys game omg stupid
Exactly
You can move it once for free (at least you could during past seasons). Assign another commander to the Astron. The Krampus commander should then be unaffiliated with any tank or nation.
Artillery 2.0 is only really a nightmare because of 3 artillery per team being back. With only 1 artillery it's kind of pretty nice rebalance. Especially with the health buff.
In my GW Tiger I used to hit Maus's for 800. Now? 123. 250.
Artillery reloads faster and is "more accurate" (in the GW Tiger I still miss alot. And I cannot count on splash damage), but when hitting tanks you hit for such less. Even hitting a Grille 15 in the side only did 600dmg. Whereas before 2.0 that might've dealt close to 1k dmg.
Like, this really is not a bad rebalance.
Even for artilleries that have crazy reloads like the Object 261. Would be fine if there was only one artillery per match.
Edit: Oh the AP rounds definitely need to be removed from artillery, still. That has been needed for a long time...
I really like toe OG stuff making a comeback like the ribbons, the voice overs in game and the original you’ve been spotted warnings. Will be seeing the return of a few more maps soon? We will see the return of the OG WEEKEND RANKED BATTLES?
Totally agree. Arty just got balanced and became a support class, yet people are complaining it ruined the game... 😂
I can also agree that the health Buff went too far but it didn't make them op at all. Stop whining guys!
The Health buff seems crazy but, if it was only one artillery per game, it wouldn't be a problem. It makes the artillery seem like a mini-boss. Like the giant turrets you have to take out in the Frontline gamemode on PC xd
The rebalance is pretty darn good. Like WG said last month they just need to figure out how to make so 1 artillery per match is possible without long queue times.
The reloads might need to be tweaked for certain arties. But overall, great update.
Make it where u can see ur own stats when u die and your platoons stats hide the potatos stats I wanna see mine
this is horrable
fix spectator not seein stats/kills/damage this has made any good super uni player mad i have to wait out battles to know waht i did bc who looks at there dmg when they bouta die. its honestly bs man A lot of your community is mad about this Fix it
I think the ribbon system needs a bit of work. At least keep them visible once we are dead. Thx
Would like the notification sound to be changeable/adjustable, it is a bit too quiet for my liking
I play CW now, so not too concerned with Arty 2.0. Feel the RNG and damage changes are good, notice more consistency in damage dealt per shot in CW era 1 especially
I think most arty players just play for the big alpha lols. Taken as a overall package, I think half decent arty players will recognise that the changes make the class less team and RNG dependant and more flexible and skill-based. In the same way decent players recognise that limiting arty to 1 per team is not only good for the game, but good for the arty player that wants to do well. Actually for arty players who want to influence the game result, they will also recognise that the detection change is also a buff, which can be worked around, but also used to panic enemy players and force them into bad positions.
Yeah, change it back for CW since we don't have arty.
Why is the damage, assist, blocked removed from my screen when I die in battle? I like to review my scores while watching the others play.
Change the sound back for all modes. I have trained my ear for the old sound in thousands and thousands of matches.
Is two arty per team an option, if one is off the table?
For years, when people were complaining that arty should be changed, the most common suggestion I saw was to reduce alpha and increase ROF, so in fact people did get what they asked for. The problem is they didn't think about it properly before they asked.
People complain about things, then don't like the changes they get because they didn't really think about or understand the consequences. Happens a lot in life generally.
I think many people were expecting arty to be nerfed into oblivion and to then enjoy arty players being on here crying and screaming about it, but are now annoyed and confused when that hasn't happened....🤣
Erm.
They didn’t just change one for another, they added other benefits like having more HP than lights
Anyways, New detected audio is pleasant reminds me of PC I think had or has, but needs to be a more prominent icon somehow and closer to the left of the HUD
Glad the Ribbons are back, this will help with a visual account on what track, spotting damage etc your doing whist you are still in the battle…..only thing is all that info disappears on screen when you get killed and on your team mates while your watching the rest of the battle….
So Thoughts on the New Season. New Tanks in the Season Pass cool (Would of liked to maybe seem more additional Content.
In Short Italian TDs , YOH Tanks , Soviet Double barrels (additional CW Lines when?)
Arty 2.0 - Defiantly a Step in the Right Direction - Health Buff was dumb but admittedly does lead to some fun shenanigans + More HP to farm end game is also pretty nice.
Though given the Rate of Fire and accuracy buffs I think AP/HEAT rounds needed to be removed or at least tweaked as Arty with Strong AP rounds are now more powerful than ever before but on the Whole Changes were okay.
Though I think with Concealment Nerfs maybe some arty could use some additional focus mainly looking at the Bishop and the FV304 and FV305 just due to thier extremely limited range as now you cant rely on Camo to remain undetected while supporting the front line you basically have to prey you get the right map with the right circumstances to have impact while other arty can still pretty comfortably Sit at the back of the map and continue life as usual.
Shell Cost Changes imo were kinda dumb if anything since 6.0 broke the Ecconomy you should be looking at ways to improve Credit profitability rather than decrease it (Sure Cold War Mode exists for Silver farming) but a lot of us still have a lot of Tier 8 prems which are basically obselete as they dont earn enough. Maybe look at Reducing Shell and repair costs or at least increase the base profitibility of Most tanks (Mainly in Classic mode by 20-30%)
Ribons these are a nice return would of been nice to have the option to turn them off for those who do not like the Clutter but they are a nice peice of Nostaligia for those who played the Game back in 2015 additionally it does bring back a little bit of identity to the game.
Though why you guys messed up the Alpha on the Tiger 2 , VKA and SU-152 I will never know
(Yes I know its bug but really it should of been patched with the Server restart come on its not difficult) additionally why was the Spectating hud changed again?
Personally what I would like to see - Retired tanks being returned to the TT or at least add a Collectors Tab like PC so people can obtain removed TT vehicles.
Bringback more Maps (Sacred Vally, Ruinburg and Live oaks) Probably the Top 3 I want to see return
Make more CW Specific maps
Bringback classic 2D commanders as an Option
Increase Max Crew Skills from 9 to 12 (Like those Demon 2D commanders from last Season)
Additionally some additional Mini-map enchancements like Last spotted would also be nice
Arty 2.0 is a total flop, they fire faster and they track you so there teammates destroy you, one arty is already a burden but when you see 2-3 in a match you cant move anywhere without a constant barrage of shells, it ruins the game. Try playing a superheavy and getting to a line without being barraged by countless salvos of artillary. The light tanks you put into the game that are the size of gnomes doing 60-70 kph can see us from across the map, literally the other day on Thiepval Ridge the game starts and lights are already there good luck moving. If you arty players want to say playing arty is hard and challenging watch QB playing arty while eating a sandwich, the class is a joke. Wargaming if you want to make your players happy who are literally keeping you in business here are some suggestions. Quit buffing arty they dont need it, Give us more maps, you have literally taken more maps out than we are playing on and if your designers cant get it done then bring back the old maps its simple. There is no reason why it should take a year to get one map! Also bring back the demounting parts for full silver and the cost was, I think it was 10 gold at the time. Your half price return is like a dirty used car salesman. Matchmaking +1_-1 thats where it should be how can a tier 6 player take on tanks that literally have twice the Hit points they have. And before you say shoot gold well if your trying to get that next piece of equipment thats 450,000 silver for one piece and then your team loses you lose silver and if you win its 5k-25k if your not on a premium account or prem tank. This is a game were already dealing with inflation in real life we dont want to deal with it in a game. And possibly have a vote system before the match with 3 maps like COD does. However on a positive note having a tier 10 reward tank is great.
Further, the Season is too long with 10 weeks. The content of all passes too little for me as a CW player. Ribbons is have compleet. Not a great season.
this is certainly the worst update that incompetent wargaming developers have been able to release. At this stage it's really taking the players for idiots. apart from releasing the same tanks 36 times with a different skin, they are good for nothing! and in view of the violence of the artillery level nerve which literally changes the way of playing them they should have offered to those who wish to do so to reimburse the exp for the lost time has set up a line.
i'm glad ribbons are back but i need them to be bigger , i swear they used to be bigger
dont remember them being bigger. But, I did notice that their colours are a bit faded/clouded. Like their saturation ain't quite right or smth.
I don't think Bake GingerBread is working I have 18 Coal and try to use and it does nothing.
speaking of which the new exclamation point warnings are not orange enough anymore also, everything is alwyas smaller and lighter
What happened here. You can't be serious to this Arty update.... Batchat Arty with 12 sec reload. In general better Aimtime, better accuracy, better reload and more hitpoints. If you wanna loose more players do it exactly like this... 💪👍
You can't be serious....
Ribbons - 🏅👌
New arty alert 👍🏻
Arty damage decrease 👍🏻
Arty health 👍🏻
Arty aiming time and accurate buff - 👎
Arty reload speed …not with 3 of them in a game 👎 would like to see what it’s like with these changes with 1 arty per side though
RNG seems “off” a lot more extreme outcomes occurring - ammo racking/setting on fire with no module damage, Vs tracks being hit or shots going nowhere when full aimed - 👎
Astron Rex - 👌
garage ui changes - 🤷♂️
I dont know how they tested it but when 3 arty a side it is hell.. not to mention the constant depth charge warning system.. really with all this it isnt an enjoyable experience at all..
Honestly, I think no matter the changes they make to arty, having 3 per team is nearly always going to be a nightmare... unless you make arty so long to reload, killing their relevance, so you don't notice them.
As @velvet oar mentionned, we should see how the changes go with just one per team (or two MAX when matchmaker is overloaded).
Arty 2.0 is at least a good try, there is great ideas (less damage, the new sixth sense for them) ... But they seem overtuned now imo.
If your goal was to make non-artillery play punishing and an overall unenjoyable time, you have succeeded. I will be playing Cold War until I hear of news of arty 2.0 being reverted.
The bake ginger bread with coal takes a battle or so to work. Press the button to bake. Then play a battle. I had a ton of coal. I pressed the button and nothing happened. Played a battle and logged off. This morning I checked it and the coal was converted. When I looked at it this morning the last one even baked while I was looking at it. It went from 9/5 to 4/5 as I watched.
Apparently, it has to cook in the oven for a while.
Played for 4 hrs last night after posting the message and they didn't finally about a hour ago logged on again and they went through
you have to activate it manuell. the first time, you get asked. like when you choose a tank
With the coal update I lost 48 coal. It did not go into the gingerbread hunt either
I want to see my performance figures for the whole game displayed at the top as before. Changes to arty continue to be useless and reason I have sold all ww 2 tanks. Since I only play modern now, I no longer have a real reason to buy key cards as no modern tanks can be won. Very disappointed that this release included no modern tanks.
BC 155 58 has now 10 sec intra-clip reload and over 40 sec magazine reload while tier 9 BC 155 55 has 11.1 sec reload when fully pimped out. That's awful for BC 155 58. Please un-nerf it's intra-clip reload, there's really no longer reason to play it, tier 9 is just way better now.
Disappointed, nothing for cold War. Afew of my friends not bothered with season pass for that reason. Could have had at least 1 tank in the 100 stages.
the artys are horid. season pass sucks. Damage after game not seen And u cant see others. And to top it all off u lowered the visiblity of the spotted symble i cant see well and now i cant see it.
im not buyin season pass or supportin this game further till u fix your screw ups. First put arty health back down make reload longer make acuracy worse. KEEP OLD ARTY BUT NERF DAMAGE AND BUFF HP BY LIKE 100 NOT A Thounsad.
Fix ur GAME!
Also today or sometime this week maybe check ur player count from like a week back to now. Its prob lowered by atleast 5%
Ribbons need to be optional. Bring Back Stat display after you’re dead!!
Like Ribbons, thanks for bringing them back. Would like to see other players ribbons after death in spectator mode.
For Arty -
Like the separate targeting warning.
Don't like the damage changes. Lower damage and faster loading times, makes arty more annoying, not less. I would prefer they have the longer loading times and the ability to one shot me.
Like the increased HP for Arty, makes it harder to take them out when going against them, and better fighting ability when playing.
Suggest putting Arty damage and reloads back to before change, keep new targeting indicator, keep increased Arty HP, limit number of arty in platoon and match to 2. My biggest issue with arty is numbers because if you get more than 2, arty can position themselves so there are no safe places to position yourself.
The 6th sense sound alert is on whisper. I can't really hear it. I wondered if I would get used to it. But yesterday I really couldn't hear it at all. The old sound is what I am used to and could hear every time.
Please change it back. Some players may be able to hear it fine. But I can't. I am sure others have trouble hearing it too.
The 6th sense sound is a core mechanic. That is not something you change.
I don’t really mind this season. I mostly played Cold War so artillery 2.0 doesn’t really bother me too much. I just wish you people would stop releasing each new season with a bunch of bugs and just take your time to properly program the game for once.
Arty change sucks. Everything was said already. I understand why. But its the wrong way. And this was aprooved by the supertesters?
love arty 2.0 i can never move as they reload faster so as soon as im spotted im constantly tracked awesome job supertesters for approving horrible arty change
This season sounded WAY too good for WG C-B so, they had to screw it up that much to not create a single precedent of a proper work on all their story.
Did this update reset anyone else’s big top contract again? Swear I was nearing done twice.
I am not sure if the Holiday Ops is considered part of the Allegiance Season or not. But either way I am looking forward to Arnold 💪 😎 👍 and Milla. 😊
Is an special Op. as the name suggests? It became crystal clear to me after the Allegiance season was announced.
Disappointed in the ribbons, would love an option to turn off. They are annoying and childish. The game has been evolving in a positive way, hate to see it take a step back because some folks can’t accept change. Reserving judgment on Arty 2.0 but I thought it was supposed to be a nerf and it feels like a buff.
Display the tank game statistics after I am killed. It is beyond irritating that you took that away. Just do it now.
6th Sense sound was changed with update 6.0... how did you liked it when they did changed it two years ago?
It was changed this update troll.
I know. But it was also changed two years ago, into worse sound compared to that we had pre-6.0. I actually like this new sound that we have now, it sounds very similar to old, classic sound that we pre-6.0. People also complain that is not load enough but it's fine for me.
I quite like the new sound as well. I think it’s the same sound as PC use.
Better Xmas workshop than last year, much better. Fingers crossed for a real Garage next year.
The ribbons are great. Reminds me of when I started.
Ribbons are great as others have said. I know you are fixing the damage counter post death so that's fine. As for arty, I know my opinion is like a teardrop in the rain but here goes: As is, arty is really only viable if you limit it to one arty per match. If you want more than one per match then at least remove the accuracy buff.
Honestly the -2 matchmaking where only one or three people are the lowest tier tanks bothers me way more than arty but that's a completely different discussion.
Arty have too many hit points. Way too many. Also the accuracy buffs are crazy, too much.
The new targeted by arty alert is helpful, but isn't enough to offset the arty buffs.☠️
Lol, especially in a heavy. Yes, arty alert I know we are being targeted. Unfortunately we aren't getting to cover any faster...
I’m feeling like the new season really forgot about us (now) Cold War players there’s NO Cold War tank in the season pass, so seeing only wwII tanks nothing new to buy even, going to be pushing WOT to the back of the fridge like a bad left over!
Too bad Iron Arnie wasn't available in CW too.
I would have bought it!!!
But true sight, smoke, and hull patch! No arty bigger health pool, this list goes on and on as to why Cold War is better and more fun! Like don’t get me wrong it all started with wwII (I have over 150 premium tanks in WWII) but WOT has changed, Cold War being the main change! Just a better mode!
I don't disagree with you. But my WW2 tanks have a certain charm to them I haven't found in CW era 1. I enjoy them despite the frustration of constant arty barrage and -2 tier matchmaking.
My feedback for this seaason with my cold war eye. It seems like you left cold war players on their appetite... again. You should have a cold war pass and a ww2 pass.
You launch this mode 2 years ago, some of us have deserted WW2 because we like: no more +2-2, true vision, special feature like atgms or smoke.
Every season we hope for content. But every season we are on our appetite, specially this one.
Same LIMITED map rotation for cold war is really frustrating considering ww2 rotation. We got same map 3 games in a row because we switch tiers between games.
You launched a product and it looks like you discard it. Adding more maps from ww2 (put obstacles to block eye sight for true vision problems) would just make sense.
I would have a lot of other things to say, but this is feedback just for allegiance season.
Also give some incitatives to cold war players to make it more attractive to ww2 players. Player base is anemic and doesn't represent the potential of this game.
Cold war is a very good product but it seems your marketing team doesn't catch it.
Adding weather to some WW2 maps would make them suitable for CW. Or just some fog, dust and/or haze.
WGCB: you should always have content for BOTH WW2 and CW in each season:
If the Stage 100 tank in the Season Pass is a Tier 9 or 10 WW2 tank, then the Free Stage 100 tank should be a CW Era 1 tank.
If the Stage 100 tank in the Season Pass is a CW Era 2 tank, then the Free Stage 100 tank should be a Tier 8 WW2 tank.
I loved WWII at a point but yeah it’s also the match making -2 +2, but really it’s true sight for me that’s the main game changer no one can pick you off invisibly
Left us so shafted I won’t be playing this season ruined the Christmas season event too!
When I am in my e100 or and slow heavy tank and I see artillery on the other team I just quit wot.
You forgot to quit discord as well

Leave the HP, just bring the reload back to the way it previously was. Only reason I don’t like the HP is because are can out DPM me, I actually like the idea of not missing out on so much damage because a game has 3 arty.
Because they miss one shotting people…
Playing the T92 now is nuts, it’s literally better than before lol
Granted that’s the only arty I’ve played, but seeing as how all arty received the same changes I’d expect the CGC and GW etc… to be better as well
i think the camo net is too powerfull. tds was normally belanced over viewrange. but a taran and some other can outspot some lights. that should not be possible.
Nice.. i hope you are in my team more often!
Toy mode can something be done with the zero silver return on a loss? It gets old pretty quick with no return for a 'fun' game.
Why do you think it shouldn’t it be possible? There are many factors which influence the spotting and camo mechanics.
because tds was balanced with a low view range. so that every class has his own role. its rediclous that one tank class have the hightest alpha and penetration, in combination with high camo and view range as well
TruVision is your salvation.

Feedback fix the game. I cant look after battle how was the score. Again again again. I cant see the player results in game after I get kill. Before works after update we are in 18 century. 🙈🙈🙈🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
With the arty is this jaké????? I play with my VZ 55 and 3 arty each sítě. I get focus from all 3 arty. I never Camp I like to fight face to face. But now I srop play and download wartander because I dont have any funn more. And like every year I spend 100€ for fu. This time I spend the money in war tunder. And I think aim not alone.
Arty really need to be dialed back.
Unfortunately all the old city maps are gone. Heavy tanks are …. in the current meta
I am not defending the Taran as it is obviously OP, but WG balances individual tanks, not classes. Equipment like camo nets are available to all classes, but with different bonuses. Most TD’s (except the Taran) are reasonably well balanced, so not quite sure what you are proposing or what it has to do with this season? (This is not a new thing)
Team Milla complete
Why not just
Make arty blind fire on indirect fires in satellite view. Idk, it'd be not hard to remove rendering the models in sata view on non Los targets. And like... while it wouldn't fix arty... idk, if you also turn off their magic radio range fix in spg mode, I guess you'd provide incentive to use their extra survivability? They'd have to blind shot everyone based on shell tracers, map props, and the minimap (radio affects this from longer distances). Idk, it doesn't fix everything but I just thought of it to make arties more like... idk, skill based?
I think that it’s great idea to actually have a use of radio and signal range for the arty like for the other tanks…
It’s fackin horrible-you removed the ability to see dmg..for what ? So we don’t call out campers and scumbags.
It wasn’t done on purpose and is coming back no later than the next season.
If the ShPTK-TVP 100 was a Cold War tank, I would have bought it.
New map is bad . Please don't add it to the higher tiers . Camping sim map
Nothing for cold war, skip.
Season was nice so far 👍 a bit to easy. Without Cold War rewards it was a pleasure to play trough
For the level 100 season pass tank, can we ever have a choice between a WW2 and a CW tank? I would have picked a CW tank even if it wasn't brand new. Or really just make the same tank for both modes. Like the NM 116.
Or even better, two versions of the season pass. One for WW2 and one for CW with appropriate rewards for each.
This would split the player base even more.
Why would this split the player base? You could still play WW2 or CW to get rewards towards either pass, the only difference would be the Stage 100 reward (on further thought they could make the consumables Era dependent as well - if you mostly play WE2 you don’t need smoke screens or hull patch kits)
Oh I misunderstood you. If it’s count for both then it wouldn’t split.
They aren’t really doing much for cold war players! I currently won’t play the game and have spent much of this season talking others out of it first time in just about 9 years I have done such a thing normally I’d try to get people to play !
If you are not playing right now, you are missing out on really good CW silver payouts with the current Silver with interest op. I am making 600K a match. Of course I will be able to spend it all in one day at the end of the week on a few tanks. But still it is saving me a lot of grinding.
It was stated that there will be a new Cold War premium in two weeks.
The silver bonus should stay that way this way you can actually play the game. The way matchmaking is setting up games where your always low tier your always in the negative, or barely making a few thousand profit.
Nothing for CW in the new year,
It is called "Modern Warfare " is it not?
In first it’s world of tanks and not warthunder
@fair nexus what has warthunder got to do with what l asked?
If you like cw you would love warthunder. Last season there was a lot for CW. Maybe it’s ww2 turn this season
Patience.
New tanks should arrive in Cold War soon.
Not to mention last year almost all the content was for Cold War.
One season without a free cold war tank ain't gonna kill ya
Don’t need silver haven’t in for ever, not since I sold all WWII tech tree tanks I had and started Cold War have I needed silver, bonus silver is just another slap in the face, like the monthly tank bundle that’s offering a tank they just gave us!
Off your rocker if you think the last season’s were Cold War when only one of 3 tanks is Cold War lol !!
this guy!! So foolish tell me how many times have you seen the premium season pass offer a Cold War tank with the pass for 6k gold??
Most if not all seasons have had more WWII then Cold War content ALWAYS
Never said it would kill me just left me without a need to play or pay
Cold war: Czech and Romanian tanks, Chinese tanks, German tanks, Independent tanks, premium tanks...
WW2: ...? some new tier 9/10 premiums for the season rewards, maybe some other premium tanks here and there. And that's it?
-And Allegiance is the only recent season that doesn't have a Cold War premium.
I don't get why people say this season is garbage. When so far its given us more XP and Silver boost events than any prior seasons. Which is super useful for both WW2 And Cold War
On top of fixing the RNG in cold war.
Just because one of the premium tanks in the season isn't a cold war one, doesn't mean the season is ignoring cold war
Season is ok, should’ve given a choice CW or WWII season pass or a deal for both? Too easy to complete imo 2 weeks in and done. Isn’t this a 10 week season? So 2 months with not much to do for many
We've had multiple XP events and right now an insane silver one.
There's plenty to do. If you have stuff to grind. Or just in preparations for stuff to grind
Don’t need silver, given up grinding lines as it’s now too painful. It’s never been easy taking out stock or semi stock tanks but now it’s just not worth the hassle.
Eer, we had more than enough CW tanks imo 😡 FYI, I don't play CW, never have and never will.
It's not because you don't play CW nobody does.
I don't play CW too. I don't have time to grind WW2 tanks AND CW ones (... Plus I don't have money issue but I'm aware it isn't the case for everyone).
However, I understand those feeling the lack of content for this mode. We, genuinely, like when there's new content. So not having it can be disapointing.
But in the past, priority was given to CW (to give "reasons" to play this mdoe). Now it is given to WW2.
Same awful thing, not what I signed up for and split the player base
Two points, if it's split the player base then people must be playing C.W.
Second do people not watch any you tube you wil find plenty of C.W. video's there .Top players too.
All my games are full of C.w. players all my clan too.
Try Rikitikitave on you tube he's just one of many.
Ten people playing will ‘split’ the player base
Christ, I don’t wanna play CW I aint never gonna watch some other dude playing!
Maybe WG realise that CW is not what they thought it would be and are concentrating on what most (hopefully) players want, bug fixes and WWII
Nope
Where did you sign up? 😂😂😂
Please stop my sides are aching
You might want to check for any rash then 🤷🏻♂️
You should be on a stage somewhere
I am, discord is my stage and you my friend, are the audience
Keep dreaming and catch that stage outta town
Where should I sign when leaving?
Cw is an poor man’s armoured warefare mobile game. Its more for the people who want it simple as it gets. Next thing is wg brings some war thunder elements to the mode too.
Like console ww2 would be somehow complicated and different 😂 Both modes are just like wot blitz when compared to pc version.
@fair nexus lts a game?
Gosh
Ww2 has the same core mechanics like the original pc version has. And that’s why it called world of tanks. If you like war thunder or armoured warfare maybe try and enjoy this.
Yes a different game… but it’s not world of tanks anymore
Simplified wot for Fortnite kids, that's what it is tbh
Maybe that’s why they created this 👍
Indeed, as war thunder has more complex core mechanics than wot ever will, armor models, damage models, spotting mechanics etc etc
Just that the grinds are truly horrible in wt, that's why I quit playing it
And now people want to change our wot because of that?! Great 👍
@fair nexus
Where are you getting all this stuff from, all that was asked was they could have offered 1 cw tank.
Jeez
I don't think anyone wants change wots cores, although they could change tank/tier/era balances a little
True vision is not a change of core mechanics? Ok
The arty 2.0 was a "good" step. Its nice to see the artillery dmg nerfed by 40%, however, its unfair to play against 3 artillerys, and the buff on reload/aim time/accuracy was the worst thing WG ever did. For the next season to be perfect, you can nerf the reload, aim time and accuracy to what it was before 2.0 keeping the alpha reduced by 40%, and if possible, limit it to 1 artillery per team. But just nerfing reload/aim time/accuracy is enough for me!
Nope, as CW is different mode, there's no true vision in ww2
Cw is a useless mode
Maybe for you, but not for all.
Thankfully for most people it is!
We should nerf arty to be inaccurate and do little damage. Light tanks should be made half as fast. Medium tanks have no more than 5 rounds of ammo and no reverse speed. And heavy tanks should have no armor. Tank destroyers should have very poor penetration. Then finally this game will be amazing.
Also clearly too many tanks. Get rid if them all and just keep Machine and maybe Taran.
Bonus 150% for silver and xp JG.PZ. E 100 line
Ferdinand have boost,
Japanther 2 nope 🤔
Arty
- The only downside of the topics. My simple vote is a very clear STOP, just STOP.
The only people that are going to tell you how much they love rt, is those who love playing Artie regularly. I immediately noticed the difference, and I wasn't aware there'd been a change. I'm sure you guys have the statistics, but getting hit every 8-10 seconds from rt just plain sucks.
I have no problem with ONE per battle, and neither will the one guy playing, because they're going to have more opportunity for HP.
But two of them... focused on you and you're not going to live long. Three of them is in a word, ridiculous. And that's not rhetoric. It's ridiculous, meaning it makes no sense at all from the player perspective.
Definitely enjoyed Allegiance season. I've been away a couple years and I have to confess that seasons do motivate me to play. Primarily getting the tanks.
The pinnacle was the object 780... I really like that tank, it's well balanced compared to standard tier 10s, not OP, but not nerfed.
Key cards, silver, all the rest of it, gold of course, that's all great.
Of course it would be nice to have a 115% commander in the season, or even a 130%.
Year of the Rabbit
-- that was tough work, but again getting a reward T.A.N.K. is what motivated me to play.
Light Tank Addiction
-- As a veteran of the game, introducing extremely fast light tanks, and many more of them, and with killer guns at higher tiers... Overall it makes the game more like an arcade, it takes away from the realism. I don't really drive any slow heavies hardly at all anymore. The game has morphed into mobility/gun/armor, shifting away from gun/armor/mobility.
Premium Tank Fever
- my question is, what are your motives? You guys would have to tell me. Everybody needs to get paid, I have no problem with that. I don't agree with OP premium tanks, provided you pay $50 to $75.
ONE per game yes 🎯
Two or more 👎👎👎
Personally I would prefer that Tier X premium tanks were not given away as part of the season pass (any version). The number of players rolling around in an OBJ780 who have no other tier X tanks (or higher tier for that fact), and thus have little idea what they should be doing is frustrating and impacts higher tier game play. If you must give them away, introduce something which stops them being played until the player completes X games in tech tree tier X tanks.
Honestly i would rather get one banged out the game from a arty then have 3 of the damn things just pepper the hell out of you… and secondly before you decide to take money from adding new tanks in the game make sure you actually make the old and current stuff able to hold up with the new ones because it’s stupid being pay to win instead of skill based… 3rdly i really believe you will get a ton of new/returning players if you remove both NA server and EU servers. Just make it one big massive server like warships legends and put +1/-1 permanently. You will have the players for it to take proper effect.. not to mention that when it was events your player base doubled or nearly tripled then completely dropped when it ended
Just put the single server in NA...
No more long seasons please WG, most of the half decent players have done their season already. Causing a massive gapeing hole in player ability. Normally its just bad but right now and most likely til end of season the game is just plain unplayable. Its just horrid, i know its hard to train the stupids but at least try harder. Dont ask them to go find things out them selves, sub liminally put it in their heads, before battles, like you used to. Give tanks a play style description/subclass with options. And please tell them how usful 6th sense is. Its spud central at the moment, what ever the tier/era
Artillery is king of the Battlefield period!!
But some of you want to play in a Butterfly Park .. wear a helmet in case a Butterfly hits ya.