#t95e3 is OP as hell

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hexed frost
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It’s just a worse version of an M48 at era 1, I’ve 4 marked the E3 and 2 marked the 48, and can confidently say that. Plus all the tanks your suggesting can’t combat it are bottom era tanks. The E3 is ranked as a top era 1 tank so compare it to tanks like the 4005, M48, or Object 165

ashen pivot
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It has barley any armor and the armor it does have is on the turret. Just shoot the hull, any tank in era 1 can pen it

karmic vault
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Statically the T95E3 is one of the strongest tanks in era 1. I am of the belief that the tank is actually OP, but that is solely due to how high its DMP is.

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With that said I'd rather the other Era 1 tanks actually get their reloads buffed to be similar to their WWII counterparts so they don't feel like crap to play.

ashen pivot
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Then aim at the cupola, hell the part of the turret under the gun is weak to a lot of guns in era 1. It’s not that hard to hit those spots dude

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And it’s far from broken. Also every time I encounter one, the person using it is terrible

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Oh I almost forgot to mention this, if you are firing heat…then no wonder you are having trouble

karmic vault
ashen pivot
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But still, it’s not “OP as hell”. A couple of encounters with people that know how to use it properly and moments where some people don’t know how to engage it correctly doesn’t make it OP

karmic vault
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It IS OP though

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Players of all skill levels on average do much better in the T95E3 than they do in other era 1 tanks. The fact that is is one of, if not the most played era 1 tanks and has just under a 53% WR is insane.

ashen pivot
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From my experience, it’s not op and I rarely see anyone do good in it, mostly due to it being a tank that new players get after playing 10 co-op battles I believe. Yeah it’s turret armor and gun is good, but it has a weak engine and weak hull armor and a turret tumor.

karmic vault
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It's the only tank that I have 4 marked. In my opinion it is the strongest tank in era 1.

hexed frost
# karmic vault It's the only tank that I have 4 marked. In my opinion it is the strongest tank ...

If you want a real broken tank to talk about I’ve got a 78% win rate in my 4005 over 300 battles. The E3 is easy to mark because so many players own it cuz it was a free reward. So in turn a lot of them are bad thus it’s easy to mark. I honestly have no idea why you ppl are debating the E3 over a 4005? You have to remember tanks are balanced based on how majority of players preform in it. Nerfing the tank won’t help anyone. Uni players will just play something else.

ashen pivot
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You said it’s op, I mentioned the things that makes it not so

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Can we just leave it at “it’s a great tank”?

hexed frost
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I agree with Pz4/5 and 4005, but I don’t understand why you think e3 is so powerful

ashen pivot
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Wow I “defend” 2 tanks so I’m the reason the game is unbalanced and continues to be

hexed frost
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I have no issue with taking them out on the battlefield, and personally do good in the tank.

hexed frost
ashen pivot
hexed frost
# ashen pivot Yeah, I’d argue that saying every other tank in the game is OP/broken helps keep...

The tanks he’s comparing them too have larger hit pools like the Pz4/5, or insane single shot potential like the 4005, not to mention the E3 is no better then a tech tree tank the M48. Plus let’s say in this magical little world the E3 is op, why would WG nerf it? Oh right they wouldn’t because it’s a premium. Also if something is truly broken like the armadillo was then WG does actually take action and nerf it

karmic vault
hexed frost
karmic vault
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It isn't the easiest tank, it has the 7th highest 4th MoE requirements for era 1.

hexed frost
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Well to me it was super easy to 4 mark so

karmic vault
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Because to a good player the tank stands head and shoulders above every other tank.

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I'm not using feeling when talking about the T95E3 is, I'm looking at its stats and it is on average much stronger than the CW 4005.

hexed frost
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What about the M48? Statistically it’s a equal/worse version

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I’ve had much better matches in the 48 where I break 12k dmg at era 1

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Vs my best in the E3 only being 10k dmg

karmic vault
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hexed frost
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Personally I prefer other tanks at Era 1 over the E3 because they feel better to play like the Obj 165 is quite enjoyable, doesn’t get dmg out as fast, but very good tank

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E3 was easy to 4 mark for me and didn’t feel fun to play

karmic vault
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Not talking about preferences, talking about statistics.

hexed frost
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Stats are flawed, they can’t be all that you go off of

karmic vault
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For how many battles the T95E3 has been played its stats have been evened out and it still has 3rd highest WR in era 1.

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And any opinion is just that, an opinion.

hexed frost
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In statistics there are so many confounding variables that not one outcome is the true outcome. Any statistician knows that

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That’s not an opinion it’s a fact

karmic vault
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I'm looking at averages, if you look at averages then you can get a good picture.

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You can get far more reliable information that one or two players experience.

hexed frost
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Mans never heard of statistical tests. Averages are the most basic form of stats that often mislead you, you can see a pattern in averages but once you do a statistical test you’ll find that those difference in averages meant nothing

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Bruh, in stats you want to have the highest sample size to get the best results. 2 people is not good data

karmic vault
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The T95E3 has a sample side of 1.9 million battles

hexed frost
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That’s not how sample size works, it’s by the individual, not the number of battles

karmic vault
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And again on average players of all skill levels do better in the T95E3 than almost every other tank.

hexed frost
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Did you look at each individual player or a cumulative of all battles won? Because if it’s the cumulative that means you’re ignoring outliers and possible confounding variables

hexed frost
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Do you even know how to read graphs, that’s not a high win rate. Ever heard of standard deviation and sample distribution?

karmic vault
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This is taking into account outliers,

hexed frost
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Yes it is, and when you take outliers into account, this is the result. Not a high win rate.

karmic vault
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A nearly 53% winrate isn't high for how often it is played?

hexed frost
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Nope not at all. In a perfect world, a tanks win rate is 50% meaning it’s perfectly balanced. 50% means it doesn’t dominate, nor does it falter

karmic vault
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Dude, using the same statistics the 4005 is at a 51.5 WR.

hexed frost
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That’s cause people don’t know how to play it and the people that do contribute more

karmic vault
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So going by that the CW 4005 is even closer to being balanced than the T95E3

hexed frost
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Yes, it’s a difficult tank for some people. Some people know how to play it. It doesn’t change the outcome of the game

karmic vault
hexed frost
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Yes because it’s a more user friendly tank, my guy. User friendly doesn’t mean overpowered

karmic vault
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Do you consider the E4 to be overpowered?

hexed frost
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The TD?

karmic vault
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Yes

hexed frost
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Bruh we talkin CW here

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Stay on topic please

karmic vault
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I'm making a comparison.

hexed frost
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And that’s not a fair comparison cuz ww2 has never been balanced

karmic vault
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CW has never been balanced either.

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It's not my stats it's stats of thousands of players and millions of battles played.

hexed frost
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The graphs you sent me were nominal and at the preferred average, goodbye

karmic vault
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Don't just look at the graphs

hexed frost
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Graphs are made from data, they are a tool everyone uses

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Also if so then why send the graphs

karmic vault
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It literally wasn't just graphs

charred bridge
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As an outsider, the table you sent shows tanks that are all centered around 50% (given 1-3 percentage points because exactly 50% is hard to achieve). Some on there are 58 percent which is much more concerning than the T95E3 which is within a good range

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Personally to me it doesn’t look to be much of an issue

karmic vault
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I dont think the tank game breakingly OP but I don't think the 4005 is either like the other guy suggested.

charred bridge
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Yeah he seemed to be saying that the 4005 is very good when in the right hands (which is rare to come across)

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In my opinion, OP means it’s outside of the target range for winrate, and so far it looks good

karmic vault
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I should also note that tanks that are as popular as the E3 tend to be around 47-8% winrate.

charred bridge
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I mean the M46A1 patton has a higher winrate than the T95, that’s why you have to give 1-3 percentage points for leeway because there’s variation that you can’t account for

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There’s many factors that go unaccounted for. Like both the E3 and Patton are popular but have very different winrates. Variation is bond to happen

hexed frost
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^

hexed frost
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Sorry I don’t understand the question here

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If the question is being asked about a bottom era tank vs a top era tank it depends on the player really, who’s in the E3 a new player as well? If so those can be mixed. I had a friend who was extremely new to the game yet plays very good. Please refer to the above comments for any further stat questions as I and @charred bridge have stated the flaws with the stats being provided for this argument.

peak moat
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New players get it free.

hexed frost
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And no FV4211 is too strong for the current meta at era 2. It’s slow but if you encounter 3 of them not much you can do in most situations

charred bridge
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I mean everything he said about statistics seems correct, but yeah that statement was uncalled for 😂

karmic vault
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I am pretty sure everything I said was in English. All you did was start to throw insults.