Born leader changes | World of Tanks Modern Armor | Page 1

real kernel Oct 3, 2022, 3:36 PM

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Regarding the born leader “buff” in the patch notes, I’m not sure it’s really needed? It’s already a very strong skill, so I’m not sure it needs to compound the effect of other skills with it? Just basic 10% crew performance increase is probably more than enough.

Everything already has laser accuracy, RB/RT meta isn’t that fun when a heavy snaps you across the map going full speed. Same with reload and DPM.

Also another thing is that its bad for new players. I have 9 skill crews on absolutely every tank I play, and would benefit most. New players won’t, and so born leader would be way less powerful for them, as opposed to the experienced players with full 9 skill crews. I’d suggest considering whether the change is going to be a positive one in terms of gameplay and new players.

ebon plume Oct 3, 2022, 3:47 PM

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it's called balancing. Sixth sense can't be the best skill for ever 😂

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new will have even more disadvantages

abstract basalt Oct 4, 2022, 9:30 AM

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it technically isn't a buff cause thats what it should have been doing in the first place

real kernel Oct 4, 2022, 9:44 AM

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That’s why I put “buff”

prime oar Oct 4, 2022, 9:46 AM

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real kernel Regarding the born leader “buff” in the patch notes, I’m not sure it’s really ne...

Thing is they're basically bringing it back to what it said it was, it's just that they changed the description a little bit after 6.0 to just say improves crew performance and now they're changing it back* to it saying to improve crew performance and skills

real kernel Oct 4, 2022, 9:46 AM

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That isn’t my point…

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Regardless of what it should’ve been when it was released. It isn’t really needed

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10% boost to crew performance alone is too much tbh

prime oar Oct 4, 2022, 9:51 AM

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Well regardless of that fact that yes it's technically "OP"or "gamebraking" since it boost crew and skills people still like using it, although I'll give you that it's more of like a crutch skill than anything else, if you don't have it you're at a pretty big disadvantage

real kernel Oct 4, 2022, 9:52 AM

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Yeah, exactly. And the changes are only going to benefit experienced players with 9 skill crews

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 11:09 AM

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@real kernel what are they doing to it?

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Oh nvm, just saw it rn

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Yeh that’s really dumb

real kernel Oct 4, 2022, 11:23 AM

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I thought so too 🫠

vernal peak Oct 4, 2022, 12:22 PM

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||They said they're changing the description not necessarily the effect, which for all we know could already have that effect||

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I stand corrected

torpid solar Oct 4, 2022, 1:10 PM

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121 6.8 for 440 alpha now

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Omega lul

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Vz 17.3

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113 6.9

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Well at least every tank benefits from this

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Dare I say even arty

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 1:19 PM

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Gg

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7.8 for Valor

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And I think mk6 is below 6

edgy wedge Oct 4, 2022, 1:21 PM

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Highest DPM in the game is now 6.8 nearly 6.9k

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Pog

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Without activating food😎😎😎

rough plaza Oct 4, 2022, 1:22 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/clap-slowclap-notimpressed-gif-8195521

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Gg wg

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 1:23 PM

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edgy wedge Highest DPM in the game is now 6.8 nearly 6.9k

Cw?

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What’s it in ww2?

edgy wedge Oct 4, 2022, 1:24 PM

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I don’t own a Badger so idk

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 1:24 PM

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Toirtoise can hit 4.5 second now?

edgy wedge Oct 4, 2022, 1:24 PM

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Probably

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 1:24 PM

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Jeez

torpid solar Oct 4, 2022, 1:25 PM

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Badger is 6.2

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Stb is 5.6

edgy wedge Oct 4, 2022, 1:28 PM

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Easy enough to work out

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4,645 Badger DPM

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4,178 STB

torpid solar Oct 4, 2022, 1:30 PM

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62a has a 4.48 reload

edgy wedge Oct 4, 2022, 1:31 PM

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4,285

real kernel Oct 4, 2022, 1:38 PM

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With adrenaline rush on too?

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50b 10s reload? 😂

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VZ can have 14.3s reload with adrenaline rush 🤣

rough plaza Oct 4, 2022, 1:52 PM

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Omegalol

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Wtaf

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 1:52 PM

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Adrenaline rush new meta

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Let’s go 🙏

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E5 4 second reload time

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Tortoise 3 second reload 👀

real kernel Oct 4, 2022, 1:53 PM

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50b is 18.7s reload with adrenaline rush

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Lol

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 1:53 PM

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15 on t57?

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😂

rough plaza Oct 4, 2022, 1:54 PM

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3.5 for 62a?

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Goodbye 3m games

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Hello 2m games

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 1:55 PM

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🤣🤣

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On the bright side bat reload is even less now

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🙏

real kernel Oct 4, 2022, 1:57 PM

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Chieftain is 5.5 without now. So with AR, in theory it should be 4.7 😂

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 1:57 PM

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real kernel Chieftain is 5.5 without now. So with AR, in theory it should be 4.7 😂

5.5 without food?

rough plaza Oct 4, 2022, 1:57 PM

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Have you tested with last stand equipped as well?

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 1:57 PM

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How much does last stand give?

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Also I thought it was removed from the game?

rough plaza Oct 4, 2022, 1:58 PM

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25% to crew performance

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 1:58 PM

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Oh wait no it’s the crew on yeh

rough plaza Oct 4, 2022, 1:58 PM

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Nope still in

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 1:58 PM

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Yo, tortoise 8k dpm? 👀

rough plaza Oct 4, 2022, 1:58 PM

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Get mathing @real kernel

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We need to know

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 1:58 PM

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@rough plaza get on the game in 30 min

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Testing time

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👀

rough plaza Oct 4, 2022, 1:59 PM

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🤢

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Get on the game

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Are you mad

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 1:59 PM

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I’m at the doctors rn

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Can’t get on 😭

rough plaza Oct 4, 2022, 1:59 PM

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You don’t want to

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Games approximately 7% worse then yesterday

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 1:59 PM

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Why 7%?

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Is that how much the new buff is?

rough plaza Oct 4, 2022, 2:00 PM

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No

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That’s how trash the new season is

edgy wedge Oct 4, 2022, 2:00 PM

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Don’t forget Last Stand affects reload

rough plaza Oct 4, 2022, 2:00 PM

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Yeah

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We waiting on @real kernel to math

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 2:00 PM

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Last stand and Ar + food, rammer, vents

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🤣

real kernel Oct 4, 2022, 2:04 PM

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Testing VZ and 50b 🫢

rough plaza Oct 4, 2022, 2:07 PM

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🫡

real kernel Oct 4, 2022, 2:09 PM

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50b goes down to 16.8s 🙂

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With everything

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VZ is 11.6 🤣

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Not broken at all

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 2:10 PM

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Wtf

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New comp meta

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Throw all hp at start and get infinite dpm

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@real kernel can you try taran?

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That might be the funniest one

real kernel Oct 4, 2022, 2:15 PM

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Taran is 8.7 💀

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Badger is 4.4

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Taran has 6,550 DPM

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Lol

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Interesting 🤨

edgy wedge Oct 4, 2022, 2:18 PM

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Makes me wanna try the Era 3 tank to see just how high DPM can go

rough plaza Oct 4, 2022, 2:21 PM

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Omegalol

mystic trout Oct 4, 2022, 2:34 PM

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real kernel Taran is 8.7 💀

Technically type 5 will have like 8k if you full pen all he shells

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😂

rare storm Oct 5, 2022, 1:24 AM

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I would like 12 skills, that would be nice

civic fog Oct 5, 2022, 3:34 AM

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rare storm I would like 12 skills, that would be nice

That would be great.

Throw Last Stand and Adrenaline Rush on every commander

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🙃

vernal peak Oct 5, 2022, 7:28 AM

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super maus

ebon plume Oct 5, 2022, 8:53 AM

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rare storm I would like 12 skills, that would be nice

to make crews even more op? new players havent even a chance with just 9 skills

rare storm Oct 5, 2022, 10:18 AM

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But new players have never stood a chance against players with experience. In Build 5.0 upskilling took time and commitment to the game. After 1 year my crew skills increased and it was an interesting aspect of the game especially after you had made a tank elite. If you take away all crew skills new players would still suffer at the hands of experience players.

real kernel Oct 5, 2022, 10:59 AM

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But why widen the gulf between experienced players and new players?

midnight quartz Oct 5, 2022, 11:22 AM

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Compounding with other skills was how it worked before 6.0

mystic trout Oct 5, 2022, 11:23 AM

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Other skills weren’t busted op pre 6.0, were they now?

midnight quartz Oct 5, 2022, 11:23 AM

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I mean, some of them were? Not to the same degree

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But even a 4-8 skill crew gave you a massive advantage over those with 0 skill crews

mystic trout Oct 5, 2022, 11:26 AM

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It would be large but not massive enough

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Now over someone with 0 skill, you have 10% better reload, 10% better accuracy and such

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All those skills are like stacking extra equipment pieces on a tank

unique kindle Oct 5, 2022, 1:52 PM

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mystic trout Now over someone with 0 skill, you have 10% better reload, 10% better accuracy a...

It’s also way easier to get a semi competent crew now (3-4 skills) than it ever was in the past (10-12 skills)

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You also only need one commander per nation since the transfer is very low cost and most desirable perks are the same

deep tangle Oct 6, 2022, 2:19 PM

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I'm confused I already thought 10% to crew skills buffed all crew skills by 10%. I think the recent wording is confusing--meaning nothing has changed except the wording.

real kernel Oct 6, 2022, 2:48 PM

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Max said it wasn’t just the wording that changed

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It used to be 10% to crew performance

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Now it’s 10% boost to skills too

vernal peak Oct 6, 2022, 3:46 PM

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It definitely has changed

deep tangle Oct 6, 2022, 3:47 PM

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Thanks, I always get the born leader along with 6 sense. Most skills will go up 1% (from 10%).

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