NEED HELP

[tardy stirrup]

hello i want to learn linux but i am a complete new to this and dont know what to do, where to install or how to learn, i found out this was the easiest linux to learn, i want to learn a little hacking probably and see if i like it, can anyone help me?

[limpid vault]

install what?

@tardy stirrup

[tardy stirrup]

linux

[limpid vault]

any particular distro?

[tardy stirrup]

well

depends, idk which one do u think is the best for learning

mint?

[limpid vault]

Mint is one of at least 8 easy to use ones

at their core, they all use the linux kernel to run the whole show

and under the hood, all use the GNU tools, core libraries

and BASH, which is the common "command language" in the terminal

I'll show you something you can play around with for a few days

one moment

[tardy stirrup]

ok

is ubuntu easier?

[limpid vault]

the User Interface (UI) not really

however, its official spins - Xubuntu, Kubuntu etc.. very much are quite familiar to the eye

now check this link. the video right above my words in it. #1370524777697251410 message

you can use UUI to set up a USB stick . let the stick be at least 8 GB so u can have some room for persistence

adjust the slider exactly how he shows it for persistence.

but no more than 4 GiB

[tardy stirrup]

will do, ty

[tardy stirrup]

yeah i have no idea what that means

[limpid vault]

that way you can try the Mint (or xubuntu, or kubuntu) LIVE

see the vid. i mention UUI below it

[tardy stirrup]

btw, do i have to spend any money?

[limpid vault]

not only live (which means it runs ready/hot right off the usb, no install) but with persistence means it keeps any changes you make in your session

regarding money: No. Just some time to watch the video and one not-expensive but decent USB stick 8 GB or bigger

so that's pretty much it. watch the vid and learn

and use UUI as he does

also see our #1295728709306683482 Index for introductory things -- and more!

[tardy stirrup]

i just watched the video, can i use any usb i want? i have one that is 15gb but its not the same as in the video

i also didnt really get how i can just switch between windows and linux

[limpid vault]

yes it is fine to use that, make sure nothing important on it before wiping

[limpid vault]

um, well what I told you about making the usb with persistence... it is running as a short term (few weeks, months) environment, capable of keeping changes, RIGHT OFF THE USB STICK.

when u want to use Windows, just turn off pc, unplug usb, then turn back on.

contrast to INSTALLING it PERMANENTLY onto the PC hard drive. that is different. and even that way there is a way to dual-boot with Windows.

[limpid vault]

this is how basically. @tardy stirrup

that will let you try it out. Next time you boot the usb up, it will remember any changes you did to linux. (preferences, programs, etc)

https://pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/

to boot the USB up so it loads this live environment, you press the boot menu key for your machine.

within one or 2 seconds after turning it on

[tardy stirrup]

Is linux mint easy to use?

Like when they say easy to use, what exactly is different from others

[limpid vault]

it's a DIFFERENT OPERATING SYSTEM.

it is graphical.. like Windows.

it has some quality of life adjustments, easily included in its settings manager

but it is NOT windows

try it out and u'll see

[tardy stirrup]

But it has the terminal, like the most important thing

[limpid vault]

so what?

[tardy stirrup]

No thats what i want

[limpid vault]

if u want to learn it sure. EVERY linux distro has a terminal emulator app

[tardy stirrup]

Yesss

[limpid vault]

literally every one.

[tardy stirrup]

So every command is the same

[limpid vault]

mhm

[tardy stirrup]

Then why is kali linux for example used for hacking

[limpid vault]

.

[limpid vault]

cuz it's like buying a weapons chest

all weapons are there.

Mint is like buying a house with furniture

[tardy stirrup]

Mmm i get it

[limpid vault]

u have the furniture, but u slowly have to add the tools / " weapons

[tardy stirrup]

So u can hack in mint, just harder

And u have to do it yourself

[limpid vault]

i mean not harder, u just gotta first know WHAT to get (that's all up to you and u must read and research) then can easily get many programs from software shop

and it's free licence, free cost

[tardy stirrup]

Bro ty so much

[limpid vault]

withUUI above, read that link

[tardy stirrup]

Btw do u know where i can learn about the commands and stuff, like what to do first

[limpid vault]

u can put mint and kali and something else. whatever will fit on one stick

and u'll have a choice what to boot off usb

mint is 2.9 GB. kali idk. maybe 2 GB

[limpid vault]

wait

you need to really really learn the very very basics first

brb

[limpid vault]

btw, look at this https://www.disk-image.com/faq-bootmenu.htm

for boot menu key for your brand

[tardy stirrup]

I still dont rlly ger how i can just switch, so if i shut down the pc and put usb i just got inmediatly into linux and when i shut down pc and take usb off i go inmediatly into windows?

I guess ill undestand it when i try it

[limpid vault]

here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxuRxtrO2Ag&pp=ygUham9lIGNvbGxpbnMgbGludXggLSBpbnRybyB0byBiYXNo

[quiet ivy]

afaik if the usb is plugged in it'll ask you which one you want

and if it's not there's only 1 option

[limpid vault]

he's a good instructor. and this is just introduction. he has many more related to terminal usage, and bash commands

[limpid vault]

i think it shows like 'ventoy' menu to choose

even if just one

[limpid vault]

yes this is correct

[tardy stirrup]

Btw i use my pc, not a laptop, is that a problem or could cause problems?

[limpid vault]

if u dont press boot menu key, and choose "USB STORAGE DEVICE" then it will just .. keep going and boot windows

[limpid vault]

no problem

[tardy stirrup]

Well thats easy

[limpid vault]

u can boot it just basically like the guy in first video showed (except he didnt press boot menu key on camera, cuz he already preset an order) and try out however long u want.

[tardy stirrup]

Also, do u recommend the hack the box site? Where i can learn haxking or is that a lil to complex, will i be able to do that after watching the video u send me?

[limpid vault]

u probably are so new that you NEED to watch several of the joe collins ones (last i sent) to get any clue about anything

[tardy stirrup]

Oh ok

[limpid vault]

i dont know the htb site at all.

before you can play a symphony, u need to learn the scales, and the instrument

[tardy stirrup]

Well ty for ur help, i will try tomorow and if something went wrong ill ask u

[tardy stirrup]

W philosophy

[limpid vault]

u can even watch this in bed 😛

[tardy stirrup]

Idk how u spell that

[limpid vault]

correct spelling

[tardy stirrup]

Exactly

[limpid vault]

feel free to review this chat, top to bottom if get stuck.

https://linuxmint.com/download.php the iso can be got from any link with country flags, near bottom once u click Download on the cinnamon (or xfce or mate) editions

[night briar]

Book from Sybex: "CompTIA Linux+"

[uncut wharf]

https://minios.dev/

Have you heard of this Stunner? Could be a good suggestion too for peeps wanting a persistent Linux distro on a usb. I set it up the other day. It's just great. Persistence is all set up automatically.

Toolbox option has some handy tools too

[limpid vault]

oh kool. yeah I know MX and Antix Linux does that too

[tardy stirrup]

Hello ive installed ubuntu and used balena etcher but when i try to boot it it doesnt show my usb for some reason

Idk if u can help me since im using ubuntu

[limpid vault]

do you know when this exact computer was made?

wait, nvm. I see it can run UEFI options.

follow this:
#1295816480256163892 message

pay attention to step 4b. make sure to set as GPT.

[tardy stirrup]

But i dont use mint

[night briar]

one can use every possible iso of any thinkable os with ventoy 😄

[tardy stirrup]

I dont understand half of what says there

Im cooked

Oh so balena is no longer usable

So i have to use ventoy ok

Is there any way someone can guide me through a call or something

[limpid vault]

do step 1

then 2 , etc

if u get stuck, tag me here

[tardy stirrup]

do i need a new usb?

[limpid vault]

no

[limpid vault]

any progress on this, @tardy stirrup ?

[tardy stirrup]

I havent been able to try it

I will try to do it tmr

[limpid vault]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mev24M-Bs8 this may help. Pay attention he says how for Windows too. (2:43 to 2:57) . Example site he is using is on the github web address, see the address shown in the video.

don't forget to disable Secure Boot in the security section of your BIOS settings

[limpid vault]

at 4:16 mark, don't forget...

4:02 to 5:17 is all you really need to understand and do. it's that easy. you can watch him boot it on laptop after. (6:44)

[tardy stirrup]

I can use any distribution right?

Yeah i dont know how to disable secure boot

That mightve been the problem before

[limpid vault]

show bios screens pertaining to that. if u have a camera

[limpid vault]

it supports many.

also, if u can't figure out how to turn off secure boot, see:
**
https://youtu.be/CuonyS3xdwg?t=303 <<5:03 ThioJoe Ventoy Secure Boot enroll steps

[tardy stirrup]

mmm how do i get into the bios

like what key do i have to press

i use an msi laptop

[limpid vault]

it should say at the splash screen. when u turn it on

read the screen. lower

my old MSI :
BIOS key : Delete
Boot menu key: F11

[tardy stirrup]

is delete esc?

do i hold it or click it fast+

[limpid vault]

just press it once or twice. the Delete key or whatevr it says

[tardy stirrup]

ok ive been clicking delete nothing happened

[limpid vault]

u must do it within the first 1 or 2 seconds that the computer turns on

[tardy stirrup]

i am spamming esc and delete just from the moment i restarted the laptop

[limpid vault]

does it say to use ESC?

[tardy stirrup]

oh its f2 i thing

[limpid vault]

K

do u see security section?

[tardy stirrup]

i havent watched the vid yet

nah i still havent accessed

bro its not f2 either wth

[limpid vault]

google your <MSI model + BIOS key>

[tardy stirrup]

ye it says f2 or esc

[limpid vault]

and ensure the F-keys works without the need for Fn

[night briar]

if 'delete' key doesn't work, try 'cursor right', followed by 'backspace' key 😉
Not really, but you could plug in an external keyboard.

[limpid vault]

can also probably go to BIOS from Windows, but that is LAST RESORT. u really should know the hot key

which i believe is DEL

unless MSI changed it in recent years

[tardy stirrup]

is del, supr?

[limpid vault]

DELETE

idk what it translates to

[tardy stirrup]

just to make sure, delete is basically the key u use to delete a letter when writing right?

[limpid vault]

what did u press for this?

[tardy stirrup]

im tweaking it cant be that hard

f11

[limpid vault]

yes but not BACKSPACE

yeah boot menu was F11 on mine old

[night briar]

could be 'imppnt petsis' ?

[tardy stirrup]

could be

[limpid vault]

what language is that even?

[tardy stirrup]

spanish but i dont even know what it means

[limpid vault]

lel

[tardy stirrup]

bro im just gonna try with every key

[night briar]

🤭

[tardy stirrup]

omg finally

i dont even know what key it is but fk it im in

Alr what now

[limpid vault]

look for security

[tardy stirrup]

ok secure boot

do i just click it?

[limpid vault]

highlight

then change value

it tells u on side or bottom how to change value

[night briar]

2 x cursor right (seriously, this time)

[tardy stirrup]

highlight?

[limpid vault]

select with arrow keys yes

[tardy stirrup]

it says change opt.

[limpid vault]

yep so press + or -

til it changes to disabled

then save n exit

[tardy stirrup]

ok i accepted and reset the pc

chat am i ready to become ryan montgomery

[limpid vault]

now u can boot ventoy with F11

[tardy stirrup]

so now i gotta watch the video

[limpid vault]

which one?

[tardy stirrup]

all

[limpid vault]

did u make ventoy usb?

[night briar]

ryan montgomery, the penetration tester? 😄

[limpid vault]

and put ubuntu on it

[tardy stirrup]

no..

[limpid vault]

here you go. plus read all i wrote there

[tardy stirrup]

on it

he is doing it on linux so should i use the first one?

2.36

[limpid vault]

you probably press "supr" that is in the same position DEL usually is in

[tardy stirrup]

yes probably

[limpid vault]

windows zip

Pay attention he says how for Windows too. (2:43 to 2:57) . Example site he is using is on the github web address, see the address shown in the video.

[tardy stirrup]

its crazy how my laptop takes 1min to download 15mb

when my pc would do it in 1sec

same wifi btw

[limpid vault]

maybe antenna angle/ positioning. or just poor wifi adapter, or some other network crap setting 😄

[tardy stirrup]

Why does my download look like this

[limpid vault]

unzip it

to do ur downloads folder

n unzip

[tardy stirrup]

Right unzip it..

Yh idk how to that😭🙏🏻

[limpid vault]

just right cick the zi

n ur files app

[limpid vault]

may say "extract here"

in windows, DO NOT GO INTO THE ZIP

right click it: extract

[tardy stirrup]

😭

[limpid vault]

o my g

click "show in folder"

then right click the zip file.. and extract

[tardy stirrup]

Bro it just gets me into the same place

[limpid vault]

right click the zip

what options u get?

[tardy stirrup]

Extraer

[limpid vault]

yeah that

then go into the folder it makes, and run ventoy2disk. and follow rest of vid

[tardy stirrup]

Ok

Yeah maybe ts aint for me tbh

[limpid vault]

that's why i said UUI

[tardy stirrup]

No idea what that means

[limpid vault]

but do ventoy , it's easy af

[tardy stirrup]

Then im cooked

[limpid vault]

u fucked up

[tardy stirrup]

Youre joking

[limpid vault]

i even sent u pic how to change to GPT

go to option menu, and press "Clear Ventoy"

then hit the refresh icon after that.

[limpid vault]

look here

[tardy stirrup]

Bro how do u even know that

How many times have u done this🙏🏻

[limpid vault]

look the pic man

[tardy stirrup]

Ok i did it

[limpid vault]

so just redo it quick.

then hit install

once u changed to gpt

[tardy stirrup]

Im such a hacker fr

Ok its done

[limpid vault]

says gpt both sides now right?

[limpid vault]

k . close that. copy the iso over

[limpid vault]

.

[tardy stirrup]

Ubuntu

[limpid vault]

yep. 64 bit right

[tardy stirrup]

Into this?

[limpid vault]

follow the vid

[tardy stirrup]

I dont see the exe

[limpid vault]

folow the vid . 4:02 to 5:17

literally drag n drop the iso to ventoy stick

[tardy stirrup]

Would it be better to update first?

Or did i just download the latest version

Im installing

Omg its slow

[limpid vault]

cheap usb

i can tell . i saw the name

in the ventoy installer box

anyway dont rush it. wait for it to finish copying. then wait ANOTHER half minute for sure after that

so it doesnt error

then reboot n hit F11.

[tardy stirrup]

should i install more iso?

or can i do it later

[limpid vault]

u can do later

[night briar]

you can do that later (sorry for double post 😆 )

[tardy stirrup]

wait wait wait

i can just use my ubuntu on any computer?

like with my stuff

[limpid vault]

u should have the single ISO file, about 5 gigs big for Ubuntu, on the usb stick labelled 'ventoy' now. yes?

[tardy stirrup]

just with my pendrive

[limpid vault]

yes

[tardy stirrup]

yes

[limpid vault]

the pendrive is a live environment

[tardy stirrup]

thats crazy

[limpid vault]

that means it keeps no changes,

but also it's slow-ish

[tardy stirrup]

but shouldnt i change my usb in the future? since its so slow

[limpid vault]

but for terminal practice, it's fine

no usb is that fast so don't worry

if u want to install it to the SSD, that's another story

[tardy stirrup]

but does ubuntu work better with better usb or is it just downloading stuff

no ide what ssd is

[limpid vault]

the SSD is modern-day hard drive. it does not spin or have moving parts like an old fashioned spinning magnetic hard drive

anyway test boot. see if it the stick even shows up now in the blue menu

on ur MSI laptop.

[tardy stirrup]

ok i am updating windows

[limpid vault]

make sure it's plugged in, and press F11 quick upon restart

[tardy stirrup]

bc why not

[limpid vault]

oh GOD.

make sure to use the safe-eject icon if u must remove the usb physically.

[tardy stirrup]

yoo letsgoo

[limpid vault]

never just pull it out. unless the power is off

u see the UEFI USB now in the F11 boot menu?

[tardy stirrup]

it says boot in normal mode, grub2 mode and 2 more

[limpid vault]

normal.

[tardy stirrup]

what are the other ones

[limpid vault]

and then the first option to "try ubuntu"

dont worry about the others.

[tardy stirrup]

ok im gonna lose it

[limpid vault]

the file checksum one is incase it is in question that the ISO was bad or copied bad. just dont worry about it

[tardy stirrup]

yeah we have a problem

[limpid vault]

why?

[tardy stirrup]

yk what, imma let u guess, cuz it looks pretty bad

[limpid vault]

black screen?

[tardy stirrup]

prob worse

[limpid vault]

did u start ubuntu , first option?

[tardy stirrup]

or maybe its just normal

yes

[limpid vault]

give it like 2 minutes to load the environment

[limpid vault]

possibly 2.5

oh that shit.

[tardy stirrup]

am i cooked

[limpid vault]

not really.

dont use that version of ubuntu. ur computer gear doesnt like it 😛

get a small ISO.

[tardy stirrup]

no way my computer is that bad hahahah

[limpid vault]

for example... ummm... minios

google "mini os linux , official site"

[tardy stirrup]

how do i reboot

[limpid vault]

try ctrl-alt-delete

[tardy stirrup]

supr? haha

[limpid vault]

now that u know where the delete key is

if that doesnt do it, just hold the power key for 6 seconds, and restart to windows

[tardy stirrup]

oh the petsis thing

[limpid vault]

petsis is Print Screen no?

u should know the translation better than I

[tardy stirrup]

wait which one did u say u thought it wa

it doesnt mean anything in spanish

[limpid vault]

supr

[tardy stirrup]

just random

[limpid vault]

wow what garbage

u should get all the keycaps changed out for English ones

or use a usb keyboard externally

[tardy stirrup]

i dont rlly care about the laptop that much

ok nothing worked

[limpid vault]

do the reset with power

[tardy stirrup]

ok

[limpid vault]

boot back to Windows.

[tardy stirrup]

isnt that bad for the computer tho

[limpid vault]

it's fine cuz it just froze.

[tardy stirrup]

btw the usb wasnt the first of the options

[limpid vault]

normally it's bad if it's writing to disk or something

[tardy stirrup]

it was second

[limpid vault]

not supposed to be really.

F11 lets u choose at will

[tardy stirrup]

ok so i have to do everything again

oh nvm, just download and drag into the usb right?

and delete the old one

[limpid vault]

u may delete it

or u may test it later taht ubuntu on ur other pc

https://minios.dev/

[tardy stirrup]

right

[limpid vault]

get the standard edition there

[tardy stirrup]

whats that

[limpid vault]

it's a small linux

[tardy stirrup]

its still ubuntu right?

[limpid vault]

and get it from ur FAST internet PC

[tardy stirrup]

i mean idk if i want a small one

[limpid vault]

then just copy it to the ventoy stick

trust me it's pretty good just to learn

[tardy stirrup]

so why is it small

[limpid vault]

it's Debain -based... just like Kali is

tbh ubuntu in the last few years got so bloated... for nothing. 5 gig ISO for what?

even Mint or Linux Lite or MX linux are like 2.6 gig

[tardy stirrup]

but wont it be hard to find tutorial for this if not so many ppl use it?

[limpid vault]

everything in mini OS is basically debian

[tardy stirrup]

oh this is mini os

[limpid vault]

u can also get MX Linux

[tardy stirrup]

wait what is the name of this

what iso

[limpid vault]

of what?

the link i sent?

[tardy stirrup]

yes the distribution

is it like mini ubuntu or is mini os a complete different iso

[limpid vault]

MiniOS – your pocket Linux – powerful, stylish, and convenient. Imagine all the power and freedom of a desktop Linux that is always at your fingertips – literally in your pocket. MiniOS is a special Debian-based distribution created for those who value mobility, speed, and flawless operation without unnecessary hassle. Work anywhere, from any USB drive: Just write MiniOS to a flash drive, plug it into a computer – and your full working environment is ready! No installation, no binding to a single device. Take your files, settings, and favorite programs with you. Forgot to save your settings? MiniOS will do it for you! The system carefully saves your data, personal settings, and installed programs directly to the flash drive. Every time you start MiniOS, everything will be just as you left it last time – reliably and predictably on any computer.

[tardy stirrup]

do i lose my stuff when i change computers?

oh its only 700mb

[limpid vault]

depends what settings u have it

download it now.

i will help u fix ur USB stick so that it works even better

[tardy stirrup]

can u wait like 15min

[limpid vault]

just set it to download to ur save folder

[tardy stirrup]

sorry i got some things to do

[limpid vault]

oh well start the save anyway now

[tardy stirrup]

it went from saying 50sec to 2h

ill text u later

[limpid vault]

erm.

that's why i said get the ISO from ur fast PC 😛

[tardy stirrup]

i am

[limpid vault]

ah

[tardy stirrup]

it went half way

gtg

[limpid vault]

well 700 MB isnt that big. it should not take too long

[tardy stirrup]

ok im back

[limpid vault]

alrighty

[tardy stirrup]

btw, do u need alot of maths for cyber security? like in the career

university

[limpid vault]

i dont think so

[tardy stirrup]

is it like worth it tho, like is ppl happy

are

[limpid vault]

you may need to learn about basic stuff like in computers, that deals with Boolean expressions

dont ask me, im not in any of that field. i fix lawnmowers

[tardy stirrup]

ok give me a sec

ok it finished downloading

what now

its in ventoy now

[limpid vault]

wait i said i was gonna help u fix the thing

take the usb over to your MSI laptop, and copy the ISO from the USB to somwhere on the hard drive for a moment

[night briar]

Lawnmower, really? you sound so IT professional!

[limpid vault]

i hang here long time n got wise

[tardy stirrup]

ok

[limpid vault]

ok done?

[tardy stirrup]

ye

[limpid vault]

it's on ur windows hard drive on the MSI now, the mini OS standard ISO yes?

[tardy stirrup]

yes

[limpid vault]

ok run ventoy2disk app again

gonna have to leave some 'reserved' area for mini OS to be able to save any persistence on

[tardy stirrup]

i swear if i fk everything up

[limpid vault]

dw. step by step here slow

[tardy stirrup]

will this take long?

[limpid vault]

nah

[tardy stirrup]

i gotta get some rest

[limpid vault]

not at all, if u follow

[tardy stirrup]

ill try

[limpid vault]

run ventoy, then go to Options: "Clear Ventoy"

as u had done before...

hit the green refresh button after

[tardy stirrup]

omg i hate that sh.t

ok i did it

[limpid vault]

done?

ok

[tardy stirrup]

wait no

[limpid vault]

shows 15 GB usb there in ventoy box right

do the clear.

done?

[tardy stirrup]

yes

i cant check

[limpid vault]

go to Options again, and "Partition Configuration"

[tardy stirrup]

it doesnt say

ok

[limpid vault]

in the thing for 'leave space at end' put this number:

4096 MB

which is exactly 4 binary GB

[tardy stirrup]

ok

[limpid vault]

then leave that box, and go to Option: partition style; GPT

[tardy stirrup]

its already set

[limpid vault]

then show pic before proceeding

of the main ventoy window

[tardy stirrup]

Btw do i need a vpn with linux?

[limpid vault]

no. click INSTALL plz

[tardy stirrup]

Bro i feel like my pc is gonna break or smth

[limpid vault]

do it.

dont waste time

then once installed... close ventoy app, and copy/paste the mini-os standard ISO file back to ventoy usb disk in file manager

[tardy stirrup]

done

[limpid vault]

let me know when done copying over.. then open WINDOWS DISK MANAGEMENT

[tardy stirrup]

Its still copying

How

[limpid vault]

search disk management

or computer management, then in computer mgmt, on the left near bottom is manage disk

then show it

u should see black 4 gig empty area for the USB stick

[tardy stirrup]

Is it this?

[limpid vault]

idk cant read all that

maximize it

then look near bottom

should have 'disk management' or similar

[tardy stirrup]

this is device manager

[limpid vault]

fk. no

close that SHIT

i said open computer management. windows 10/11 has easy search box

or DISK MANAGEMENT

can also right click 'my computer' icon in the file manager, and choose "manage"

[tardy stirrup]

bro wtf

were tf is it easy access

[limpid vault]

do this please.

[tardy stirrup]

ok

[limpid vault]

my computer = 'this PC'

[tardy stirrup]

omfg

[limpid vault]

old name new name.

same shit exactly

[limpid vault]

on the left pane, RIGHT CLICK THIS PC

and select 'manage'

[night briar]

OBSOLETE: start menu, right click, disk management?

[limpid vault]

leave it dezi, dont confuse

[tardy stirrup]

yh nothing translates to manage

probably the lowest option

[limpid vault]

come on....

[tardy stirrup]

whats the icon like

[limpid vault]

idk

are u this dumb with windows?

where is the windows 10 SEARCH BOX on the taskbar?

[tardy stirrup]

yes bro

[limpid vault]

or win 11 watever

[tardy stirrup]

bro i have to search it in spanish

thats the thing

and the words have like other meanings

[limpid vault]

pres windows key + r

[tardy stirrup]

It has to be one of those

[limpid vault]

then put diskmgmt.msc

and hit enter.

do that immediately

[tardy stirrup]

alr

exactly, means nothing like what u said

[limpid vault]

got it open? u should see the 4 gigs black for usb

this is Disk Management now open, yes?

[tardy stirrup]

yes

[limpid vault]

good.

finally.

[tardy stirrup]

fucking idk, probably

[limpid vault]

right click the black 4 gig free space of the usb

and do 'create new simple volume'

and make it as Fat32

the filesystem type

[tardy stirrup]

Yh bro u got this

[limpid vault]

scroll down bruh

u can see the scrollbar

[tardy stirrup]

Yh yeh

Ok how do i create ts

[limpid vault]

do this.. and put SPARE for the new volume name

everything is right click bru

make SURE not NTFS

[tardy stirrup]

And use f letter?

[limpid vault]

put as Fat32.. yes whatever letter

[tardy stirrup]

Bro😭🙏🏻 who are u callin fat

Nah im joking

So should i just leave ir as F?

[limpid vault]

it will format that dead space as Fat32. the label will show as "SPARE"

make SURE you chose fat32 man

[limpid vault]

not NTFS

[tardy stirrup]

Ok

[limpid vault]

I cant read all that.. just make sure it does quick format

[tardy stirrup]

What about the other 2 options

Ok im done

[limpid vault]

good.

[tardy stirrup]

Imagine ts doensnt work

[limpid vault]

now close that . in file manager, did u copy the mini OS ISO file to ventoy drive?

[tardy stirrup]

Yes

F11?

[limpid vault]

and do u see SPARE drive now?

[tardy stirrup]

Yes

[limpid vault]

good one last thing

[tardy stirrup]

3.98gb

[limpid vault]

right click start menu.

do 'open command prompt (terminal) as administrator

then check something...

[tardy stirrup]

Whereeee

[limpid vault]

do powercfg /a

in windows man

[tardy stirrup]

I closed the fucking administrator shi

[limpid vault]

what's it say that result for the line about "fast startup" ?

[tardy stirrup]

bro whereeeee

[limpid vault]

omg. in the command prompt i told u to open

and the command i told u to run in it

[tardy stirrup]

So w+r?

[limpid vault]

win+r then type cmd hit enter

powercfg /a

got it?

[tardy stirrup]

yes

[limpid vault]

waht's it say?

show full pic.

[tardy stirrup]

Nvm

Okay got it

[limpid vault]

bottom is fast startup right?

ur killing me with this spanish..

and it says not supported , correct?

if so, reboot pc, to the ventoy usb and start mini OS

wait shit

incicio rapida is fucking on

close that prompt

open the command prompt AS ADMINISTRATOR

just right click the win11 start menu, should give that option

@tardy stirrup

[tardy stirrup]

yes

[tardy stirrup]

mate

idk how

[limpid vault]

i just said how

u dont read what i write.

[tardy stirrup]

so i restart the computer?

[limpid vault]

NO

[limpid vault]

.

[tardy stirrup]

tf is that

[limpid vault]

u know what the start menu is or are u that dumb?

[tardy stirrup]

the second option

[limpid vault]

the Windows logo on the taskbar

is the start menu.

right click it

[tardy stirrup]

makes sense

ok

now what

[limpid vault]

open terminal or whatever as admin

[tardy stirrup]

done

ez bro

[limpid vault]

powercfg /h off

that's it.

then reboot.

[tardy stirrup]

shouldnt there be more text like before?

[limpid vault]

sorry i just never met anyone who doesnt know simple ass things in windows

no it's fine.

[tardy stirrup]

nah youre good

apreciate the patience

i would know this stuff if it was in spanish

[limpid vault]

test if Min OS boots now

[tardy stirrup]

theres 2 udisk

partition 2 and 3

[limpid vault]

try 2

yes 2.. since 3 is the SPARE

[tardy stirrup]

normal mode

[limpid vault]

then show pic of the next screen

press down arrow once in case it wants to time out

[limpid vault]

nevermind.

let it boot

in mini OS - live environment, the normal user ID is called live and their password is live backwards - evil

the admin user (aka 'root) is called root and its password is toor

remember both of those

generally i think just the live user is the only one u need - i think.

did it reach desktop, @tardy stirrup ?

[tardy stirrup]

im back

had to do smth

i think so

[limpid vault]

so it should look like this in the pictures: https://minios.dev/

hm

oh well, i guess u can try it on your other PC.

[tardy stirrup]

omg

[limpid vault]

it wont hurt anything

[tardy stirrup]

bro i cant with ts

[limpid vault]

just pop the ventoy into ur other one, and boot the same way u just did

if not, try another distro another day. do NOT delete the spare partition, nor remove ventoy.

[tardy stirrup]

i dont wanna use my pc for it

[limpid vault]

true, but this is plainly as a test. it's portable

[tardy stirrup]

how can this even happen

should i try partition 3?

[limpid vault]

eh. i cant answer that

NO NO NO. think about it

p3 is empty. it's there for space, for mini OS to save any files/changes

anyway i would recommend u test it on other pc, just to see if it boots

it wont affect the other pc, but will prove if the flash drive is maybe writing the ISO badly or something.

sometimes the flash memory cells go corrupt. this is a real possibility sometimes

not saying that's for sure the case here, but might be

[tardy stirrup]

i still cant fucking reboot

normally

im going to try it

which key could it be tho

[limpid vault]

on what?

for ur other PC?

just google the brand + 'boot menu key'

[tardy stirrup]

tbh

i think its many brands

[limpid vault]

lol oh?

no name or label right on the case?

like ... HP, Lenovo,

if not, u boot Windows, and then get the program CPU-Z

[tardy stirrup]

Omfg i turned off my oc

[limpid vault]

that app will tell u the motherboard brand

[tardy stirrup]

Itd forgeon i think

Can u look it up

[limpid vault]

u have to boot Windows up to get CPU-Z program

i cant guess for u.

[tardy stirrup]

What are the keys thst could be

Ill just spam all

[limpid vault]

no

that's pretty irresponsible.

[tardy stirrup]

ok what do i have to search

[limpid vault]

u should look at the SCREEN, as soon as u power on the computer

and it will (or should) say

[tardy stirrup]

its forgeon

[limpid vault]

press Fx for setup
press __ for boot options
press __ for recovery

[tardy stirrup]

wait no its icue

if that exists

[limpid vault]

please boot windows up, that's not a motherboard brand

if it is, i sure as heck have never heard of it

[night briar]

icue is the rgb lightning standard from corsair or so.

[tardy stirrup]

Omg it didnt shiw anything

Black screen and then windows

Bro my room is hot ash

[limpid vault]

go here: https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html scroll down n get the 2.16 please. do it now

CPUZ will tell u the motherboard brand.

u can then google it for the hot keys u need (boot key , and bios key)

take a break if u want. im heading out . good luck

[tardy stirrup]

which one is it

[limpid vault]

which one is what?

[limpid vault]

did u go here?

[tardy stirrup]

its amd ryzen

[limpid vault]

thats the CPU, man

go to the motherboard tab

[tardy stirrup]

WHERE

idk if i can send pic

if its confidential

[limpid vault]

it should look like this

[tardy stirrup]

do i have to download it

[limpid vault]

then read where it says Manufacturer.. in the mainboard tab

Of COURSE

thought u were there already

notice it also says the BIOS brand there too

[tardy stirrup]

omg

im in a readme shit

notes

[tardy stirrup]

YES

[limpid vault]

it's right there. click the purple Setup thing to get the exe and then install CPU-Z

[tardy stirrup]

i did bro i did

[limpid vault]

ok and?

[tardy stirrup]

notes

[limpid vault]

where are u now?

fuck the notes!! run the app

[limpid vault]

.

[limpid vault]

.

[tardy stirrup]

2.16 and the setup english

i already did

[limpid vault]

k. run the setup file to install the app

[tardy stirrup]

ok i goti t

where is the motherboard

or whatever shit i need

[limpid vault]

look at my pic

[limpid vault]

.

[tardy stirrup]

its micro star something

[limpid vault]

main board maker is MSI microstar international?

[tardy stirrup]

the manufacturer

[limpid vault]

so MSI.

[tardy stirrup]

it doesnt say msi

[limpid vault]

i hope u ran this on the other computer not the laptop from before

[tardy stirrup]

ofc

[limpid vault]

microstar international is MSI

[tardy stirrup]

so f11

[limpid vault]

so same keys should apply

yes

wait up tho

[tardy stirrup]

Great

[limpid vault]

i want to caution u one thing

[tardy stirrup]

It didnt work

[limpid vault]

u may need to turn off Secure Boot like last time

[tardy stirrup]

Yeah im done

Ill do that tmr

[limpid vault]

aight

did it just do a blue screen for MOK or nothing?

or did F11 not even bring up the little blue boot menu box at all?

[azure lance]

Stunner with the unwavering patience

[limpid vault]

see this exact thing, at the exact time point for secure boot left ON, and starting ventoy to boot an OS

[limpid vault]

https://tenor.com/view/wrestler-woo-stoked-crazy-excited-gif-15444069

[surreal dock]

If you don't know what commands do and scared of destroying your system might good to learn in virtual machine then doesn't matter because VM are isolated from your main operating system

[limpid vault]

any news on this?

[tardy stirrup]

I wish

Havent touched my laptop in a long time