Slow boot.

[indigo rain]

showing these screenshots if it is of any help to help solve this issue

[indigo rain]

oh thank you 🙂 i forgot to put those in here as well

[zealous coral]

did u turn windows fast startup off in windows?

do so, then try sudo update-grub in linux.

[indigo rain]

i did. through bios and the thing in the power settings

[zealous coral]

windows power options control panel

[indigo rain]

yes.

[zealous coral]

ok do sudo reboot now in terminal

[indigo rain]

i have a question before i do that, when i do sudo apt upgrade and it says it has 4 things to update, how do i make it do that

[zealous coral]

leave it for now

[indigo rain]

okay

that update didnt change time

its the kernel it seeems to be taking the longest

i have the latest kernel

[zealous coral]

uname -r

[indigo rain]

thats the latest on mint. i got it yesterday

[zealous coral]

was it faster on 6.8?

[indigo rain]

no, honestly its been the same for both, both equally slow

[zealous coral]

to view packages which have an upgrade candidate available:
apt list --upgradable no sudo needed

[zealous coral]

to upgrade one or multiple of them, sudo apt upgrade name1, name2

or use the update manager, selectively

to upgrade all, sudo apt upgrade

[indigo rain]

when i do the upgrade it just tells me 4 did not upgrade

im doing the one by one because update manager ddoesnt always show things that can be updated for me

[zealous coral]

it should always

hold off on those 4 a while. idk why its not

[indigo rain]

i agree thats how i would like it, but often times im finding things arent up to date and then i have to fix it and go find the most recent. kinda sucks tbh especially as a first time linux user lol

oh... i already did them.. lol..

[zealous coral]

to see candidates that have newer packages, with more details, do apt list --upgradable -v

[indigo rain]

also i am a bit suspicous of some things, like i want to update my local mirror to make it somewhere closer but the military got me stationed in bahrain and the fastest thing is a chinese server or another asian server lol. kinda scary

[indigo rain]

currently none that need to be upgraded it seems according to terminal. i just know when i booted up update manager before pushing those 4 updates, nothing was in there

[zealous coral]

it checks periodically

and perhaps hadnt checked yet

[indigo rain]

but when i refresh it, still nothing shows

[indigo rain]

Hey what was the thing you said to do with the m.2 ssds ? I just thought fuck it lemme do it

[indigo rain]

Something about removing a SSD at a time to then help fix my boot time taking nearly 2 minutes

[kind vapor]

if you set an automatic mount option at startup, double check the /etc/fstab file of each entry

for example, since you removed the ssd and that ssd's partition was listed on the fstab and the system keeps searching on the UUID name from the ssd which didn't exists anymore

[zealous coral]

yes, check that first.

just navigate to "filesystem" in file manager. then go in /etc and look for the fstab file (plain text file) and open it

[indigo rain]

So don’t remove yet until I check that?

[kind vapor]

remove or comment the wrong entry when needed if you noticed it causing the startup slower

i guess you're in a wrong place to ask this question 😉

[zealous coral]

you're in a very wrong place to type this.

[zealous coral]

please get out of this ticket.

[indigo rain]

i didnt remove any ssds yet. do i just check that through file explorer?

[zealous coral]

you should likely only see the root partition in fstab, mounted in / and the efi, and the swap (either file or partition) unless u specifically added more drives/volumes to automount at any point in time

[indigo rain]

i dont know how to read this

i only have 2 drives, one for windows and the other for linux, i dont plan on getting more

[zealous coral]

notice the comments

so, if you pull the win drive, and do live-mode boot repair, it will put new grub and efi on your linux drive, and hopefully correct fstab to reflect this

and it may help your boot time issue

[indigo rain]

i utilize wifi, so will the live mode boot repair grab the newest grub? or you are saying i should download those first

and with the live-mode. is that with the USB having the ISO of mint linux

[zealous coral]

u dont even have to connect to wifi, nor update boot-repair app

but u can if you want, it's all automatic for most part

[indigo rain]

the live boot repair that will show once i boot up after removing the windows drive and having the ISO usb in correct? like on the main grub screen when bootng

[zealous coral]

no, it's an app

run it from the app menu, in live desktop

and just do the recommended repair

[indigo rain]

so boot into the live (usb) then download the app or it comes on the iso file

I apologize for asking alot of questions, i just am scared becasue people have said it can brick your pc and its parts when you mess around with linux

[zealous coral]

existing 'ubuntu' boot entry, and precisely where it is.

nah it's not necessary to download it. just search app menu

lsblk -f helps you see your drives, filesystems, and their UUIDs

as does lsblk -o name,type,model,label,size,fstype,fsavail,mountpoint

as does the graphical DISKS app

I g2g for now. so ttyl

[indigo rain]

Uh. Wait please

[indigo rain]

Sorry I took my windows SSD out and now my computer won’t turn on

[zealous coral]

well put it back in

and make sure windows fast startup is definitely off

and also, find out ur pc's boot menu key

and use that at poweron to get the menu to launch usb

much like:

[indigo rain]

Uhm so my pc won’t turn at all anymore even after putting back in windows SSD….

[zealous coral]

well it should

pull the power cord while it is off,

for 10 seconds then retry

also, if you moved any power harnesses

to access the ssd, make sure they're back in

[indigo rain]

I didn’t move power at all. I had to take my cpu cooler off to reach my SSD for windows

I’m saying power button doesn’t work so I can’t see if any thing works

[zealous coral]

check if a cable to front panel power button came off

[indigo rain]

Still on. Didn’t touch it.

[zealous coral]

take mains power off a bit

you may need to plug the cpu fan in

[indigo rain]

Both are plugged in. I just reseated them….. did my pc just brick… nothing is lighting up

All I did was remove the windows SSD, but now it’s back in

So how could that brick my pc

[zealous coral]

ya it prob some other cable yaned

yanked.

the tiny pin header thing for the cable which goes to front panel power button

perhaps a main switch on the psu

[indigo rain]

I reseated them

I reseated the power cable to the psu

[zealous coral]

check mains power strip

[indigo rain]

Nothing has changed. It’s all seated as it was. All I did was take my cpu cooler off and take out windows SSD. Put cpu cooler back on, then try and turn on and nothing works

Put windows SSD back in and sill nothing turns on

[zealous coral]

did u test as I said, removing mains power for a while?

[indigo rain]

Wait wtf.

I unplugged my 24 atx cable, rgb started going on my mother board. Then I plug it in. Then the power button worked. But I’m so confused nothing ever touched or came close to the atx

I’ll just take the windows ssd out again and then do the atx thing? Weird

[zealous coral]

#1193345280733622272 message

make sure that's done in Windows

preferably first

[indigo rain]

Yeh I disabled that. You showed me how to before. The thing in the power settings

[zealous coral]

oh ok

[indigo rain]

Gosh damn booting from a usb is taking a long as time. Been at the mint logo for 2 minutes now

Ahh I see the boot repair

It wants internet lol

[indigo rain]

This all good? Anything I should change ?

This is how it was when I started it

[indigo rain]

Hey stunner had to go. Could you please help me with this? Wanan ensure I’m doing this correct

ChatGPT said to do this. Hopefully it’s correct LOL

[indigo rain]

Nvram lock?

Secure boot and that other boot thing you talked about are disabled

Uhm this is what happens when I boot into Linux

[indigo rain]

ChatGPT is the goat. I almost lost it all. Now I got Linux back

Got it down to 45 secondsssss. So down about 1m and 13 secondssss helll yeahhh.

If there’s any tips to get this lower please let me knowww.

Thank yall for your help. This has been wild but a pretty damn cool learning experience

[indigo rain]

@gusty plume sorry to @ you but this part lost me in that link you sent in general

i went to the website but idk what im doing on it lol

also this issue. the bottom says it has errors installing

[hard willow]

@indigo rain what does systemd-analyze look now?

[hard willow]

Looks fine I think

[indigo rain]

no no, it is fine, the thing i put was me asking why there was a issue of updating my kernel to 6.15.1

i have a very very new gpu so i want to ensure i have the best for it

[hard willow]

What gpu do you have? Could you post the output of

inxi -SGxxx

please?

[zealous coral]

i think this is adequate but whatever

i guess inxi will tell more

[indigo rain]

i have a 9070xt, the newest AMD gpu, and i plan on getting the 9800x3d

[zealous coral]

both mon's plugged on the Navi, both good same refresh rate. I wouldn't mess with it any further.

[indigo rain]

but my games kinda spike like 40 frames or so

like ill be at 240. then boom down to 180 or so

[zealous coral]

wait for Maniak if they have advice

[indigo rain]

understood 🙂 thank you

[hard willow]

Everything seems ok to me, you even got mesa 25. I wonder what are you doing running games at 240 fps having 60hz monitor though, sounds like needlessly overusing your gpu to me.

[indigo rain]

i have a 240hz monitor

[indigo rain]

also when trying to sudo apt upgrade i keep getting this errror

[hard willow]

You might want to check display settings and make sure they're actually set to 240hz

[indigo rain]

oh thats weird, idk why my thing restarted to make it 60 hz

[indigo rain]

how can i fix this errror

[hard willow]

How are you even trying to build kernel 6.15? The latest available in mint (by default) is 6.11

[indigo rain]

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=441678

the wkg21

[hard willow]

I see.. but it seems to be recognized just fine on your current 6.11 kernel though?

[indigo rain]

i mean sure its running fine but since its new equipment, i just thought a newer kernel would help it work better. but if not oh well

[hard willow]

Could you share the output of

dkms status

as well as screenshot of driver manager window?

[indigo rain]

here ya go 🙂

[hard willow]

And

dpkg -l | grep linux-image

please

[indigo rain]

@hard willow

[hard willow]

Did you try to get 6.15 through mainline?

You should remove it since it wasn't installed properly

sudo apt purge linux-image-unsigned-6.15.1-061501-generic

and then run

sudo apt autopurge

[indigo rain]

i did

[hard willow]

it should fix this

[indigo rain]

cant remove

[hard willow]

why?

[hard willow]

What was the result of

sudo apt purge linux-image-unsigned-6.15.1-061501-generic

[hard willow]

Ok.... then do

sudo dkms remove -m amdgpu -v 6.12.12-2164967.24.04 --all

please

[indigo rain]

wont that make it so my gpu wont work as well

is that removing the drivers? and that command worked

the other command worked now

[indigo rain]

this worked

[hard willow]

As you can see from the version number it's likely from kernel 6.12 that you probably installed at some point and then removed. And it causing errors for updating and removing

[indigo rain]

so now i can retry getting 6.15.1?

[hard willow]

In theory yes

[hard willow]

yes, that shows you currently have kerenels 6.11 and a few of 6.8 series installed

[indigo rain]

okay im trying to install 6.15.1 again, i do have a question tho

what does that mean, how do i follow it
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=441678
from : wkg21

this apparently will help with my 9070xt

[hard willow]

Amd drivers are baked in the kernel, so by installing newer one you should get the newer driver. But newer kernels aren't as tested as mint provides, so it might (or might not) break other things.

I wouldn't go with absolute latest, 6.14 probably is fine too for your card

[indigo rain]

do i restart now?

it seems to have worked?

[hard willow]

yes, seems that way

[indigo rain]

it worked!

i rebooted and it shows!

thank you for your help ,you well of knowledge seems to be never ending 🙂

[hard willow]

Could you do

inxi -SGxxx

too please?

[indigo rain]

also how do i know what ubuntu that mint is running on so i can check if i have the right amd drivers on the amd website

[hard willow]

You already have the driver installed, you don't need one from the site.

[indigo rain]

oh okay awesome 🙂

whats the command to turn power saving mode off my wifi? it runs 3rd of the speed it should on linux but my internet works great on windows

[hard willow]

Just check display settings again, that you're not running 60hz again

[indigo rain]

oooo good call, i forgot it messed with it last time

[hard willow]

For wifi, disable ipv4 or ipv6, depending on the one you use. when they're both enabled it sometimes causes strange behaivor

[indigo rain]

uh... how do i tell what i use lol. ill be using a ethernet cord when i move in my new place so i doubt it willl matter then

[hard willow]

show the output of

iwconfig

[indigo rain]

Oh i already turned it off before.. but my wifi still kinda sucks on linux lol

[hard willow]

yes power managment is already off

Please show

cat /sys/class/net/wlp10s0/power_level

and

inxi -Nxxx

[indigo rain]

no such file or directroy

[hard willow]

then

ls /sys/class/net/wlp10s0/

[hard willow]

cat power

[indigo rain]

power is a directory

[hard willow]

Also, do you have 2 wifi cards?

one's a usb?

[indigo rain]

yes, one built into my motherboard and one that is a usb apdpater

[hard willow]

USB one doesn't seem to have a driver

So... it should work without the adapter?

[indigo rain]

Wouldn’t the Usb automatically installer the driver for itself?

it does work without the adapter

i just pulled it out

[hard willow]

on windows it would

[indigo rain]

But my Razer headset usb sound card was the solution to my mic issue I had, so I’m confused