linux mint freezing

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What browser are you using?

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firefox

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check if ur vid drivers are proper.. inxi -G in terminal, @feral nest

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I have not gotten both my os drives installed at once yet, currently finishing setting up my Linux mint hard drive first

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Hey stun while I have you here

Isn't there an Nvidia app for the drivers in software manager for Nvidia gpus?

I can't find the one I saw on a vid a while ago

Can't remember the vid I watched tho

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it should already show up in tray called "prime" applet

nvidia-prime should already show as installed in the software manager

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I see on software manager, could not see it searching on the system, how do I open it

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nvidia-prime in terminal maybe

or nvidia-settings

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Oh I don't have the nvida-prime tool on software manager but I have the prime applet

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read about it n figure it out

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I also need Nvidia settings installed

I think

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maybe prime applet should show in APPLETS manage tab. just need to add it to taskbar

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It doesn't show when I go to add applet I search Nvidia and nothing shows up

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yeah idk these weird things. for some ppl it just shows in tray, for the rare case, not

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Watching a vid

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check if ur nvdia drivers applied fr.. inxi -Gx

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Do I need to sudo that

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nope

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Idk much about terminal

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inxi --help if u wish

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Idk what this means

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i think u can see why now

look the driver for the GPU

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Nouveau?

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fresh install always goes FOSS nouveau

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That seems wrong right

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mokutil --sb-state

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I'm driver manager I see Nvidia drivers

It's just in driver manager

I'm blind I guess

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do above thing first

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Whats it do

Oh

Secure boot is off already

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mokutil --help if you wish

good apply reco'd driver of nvidia

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In driver manager right

Ye I see

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Is this gonna fix my screen flashing black if I put my refresh rate to my monitors max

Cause that happened

Max 75hz btw I'm at 60hz rn

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possibly yes. quite likely

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Nice

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if two monitors make damn sure they're on matching refresh rates in display settings

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Only 1

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k

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Eventually 2 though but it's an older monitor I need a display port cord for it

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btw if reco'd driver doesnt perform well on the GTX 1060, go with the older 470

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Okay

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Seems fine I can indeed use 75hz now

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u should have ur applet now

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Uhh, went to get steam and it says I need a 32 bit version of the Nvidia driver

So I guess I do gotta use the older version

Great

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no

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Oh

What do I do then

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just prob needs that i386 thing for nvidia driver

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Yes it said that

How do I do that thing

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install synaptic package manager n look for it

or software manager

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So I search i386

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hell no

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Idk

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u gotta be more specific than that

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...

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inxi -G

driver version

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It says v: 570.133.07

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search manager for nvidia driver 570 i386

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"no matching packages found" on software manager

So use the other manager thing?

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install synaptic then. close that first mgr.

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This?

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yup

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Sidenote I hate needing my password for like everything

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it's just to set up

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u dont gotta set stuff up every minute of every day

close the terminal

or reboot

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I'll do a restart rq then

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wait

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...

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make sure nothing is being run in tray

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Too late for that

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like a critical system update or something

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I don't think so

I already did those

God this hard drive is old

I'm back in and trying to install

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just make sure u close one manager before running any other

that includes apt commands in terminal.

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New error: E: dpkg was interrupted you must manually run 'dpkg--configure-a' to correct the problem

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this why i said wait

fine do that.

close the s m before anything else

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Yeah

I think it finished the command

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well install synaptic then

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Okay I launched it, I don't really know what I'm looking at

Do I click on search in the top right ish and search for it there?

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hit reload first

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Okay

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then search for what i said.. just by name, not include description

then sift thru the results and ye shall find

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So in the look in sort by name only?

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ya

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I see in the small left box labeled all is one option with the result of the name

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look results not there

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ok let'put in bit more specific a search

nvidia-driver

then scroll the stuff. u should find a 570 with 386

or whatever ur thing version is now

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I scrolled all the way and these are the only 570 ones

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scrolled full each way?

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Yes

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search just nvidia i386

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Nothing

Not even with a - in between

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well it wont need a dash

unless u mean literal

search same term by name and description

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The Nvidia i386 term?

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ua

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Doesn't the green box mean it's already installed?

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yupppp

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Hmmmm

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it also mentions version in the "INSTALLED" column

and there's an icon legend in Help

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Ahhh I see

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try restarting steam now

sinceu did a reboot n such

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I only have the steam installer rn so I'll try that

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if still wont go, then install the flatpak steam from flathub.org. that's ur plan b.

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Ah

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and u may remove steam from synaptic later. (synaptic ONLY handles management of native system apps)

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Okay

It has the updating steam bar up rn

Idk if I'm in the clear yet tho

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it's quite easy, u just click a green package in synaptic, in the green tickbox, and 'mark for complete removal' and it'll maybe add some dep's n then click apply n read it over so u learn

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the little steam installer thing in software manager is just a mini program to install massive Steam

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Yeah

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which is like ... 300Megs to a Gig

friggin massive bloat

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Also do I need to remove steam from synaptic like right away or can that wait a while

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to LAUNCH and BROWSE GAMES

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Eesh yeah

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wait a good while, no rush

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Cool

Launching steam rn

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like dont remove it obv if the native one works.

only if u had to resort to flatpak, then ya

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Oh nah

Steam with the I assume just a Debian file right either way non flat pack is working fine I think

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btw, if u have synaptic open still ?

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I dont

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k nvm

so try using steam.

idk wtf that 32 bit warning was about

u have the shtuff

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Also have you person done curseforge modded mc on mint

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oh hell no

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I think it's a thing with my over a decade old hdd

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i dont even play games

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Oh

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no it is not a thing wiht ur old hdd

it's cuz some games on steam may have been written for 32-bit execution, and thus need proper libraries to run the graphics card as such

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Ohhhh

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I also want to make a time shift at some point but I saw someone had to do like a lot of setup for it to let him make a time shift save

Any chance I'll come across that?

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nah just.. pick ur drive n done

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Ok

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the root partition

OR

if u prefer, and have a huge external storage drive or get one, u can format all or some of it to ext4. and direct timeshift prefs to save onto it

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Yeah the issue I saw the guy had was he was saving the time shift on the same drive as Linux mint

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can even be a massive usb stick

(slow, but maybe not so slow if ports and stick are usb 3.2

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someone did it on a damn boot partition 💀 💀

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OHHHHH

that's what I saw I see

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btw, definitely definitely watch this: https://youtu.be/qxnM0rvVbDc?t=304 (5:04) how to use Synaptic, thorough and simple.

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Also app.py isn't responding..

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idk anything about python

or app.py

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I hit the thing that said this needs your attention it opened system reports and it wanted me to set up time shift which I was about to do and so I launched TS and tried to close the system reports and now it froze

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well there's a lot going on

just do timeshift when nothing's going on. and watch taht vid

k bye

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Wait

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?

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On select location in time shift I got the main disc and then the drop-down says sda2 so I just select the disc?

Legit my last question I hope

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open the DISKS app from start menu

and figure out ur stuff.

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Wdym

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sda2 will probably say mounted at filesystem root

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So do I need to like make a partition for the time shift save?

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well click the proper pt'n first

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Oh

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kek

if it's root, just save there

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It says says sda2

Yeah

Mounted at filesystem root

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u have no other choice. only dvd drive on left so

unless u go out n buy a 250 Gig usb stick and make it ext4, then this will have to suffice

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So select sda2 then as that's the root drive not the boot partition

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other guy had encryption, hence a boot partition

not to be confused with EFI partition

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Okay I'm creating a snapshot rn before I load in my windows SSD for my full duel boot setup

Ah

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make sure win fast startup is definitely off

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?

Where is that is that in bios

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u can check by powercfg /a in windows cmd prompt

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Oh

Why should that be off

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so it doesnt screw u over

in dual boot.

wait, where's ur windows drive even?

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What would it do? Also don't I need to do a thing in linux regarding dual boot

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Not plugged in yet

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oh aight

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Got that set up first

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well still.

n if u install windows onto it, make damn sure to pull the linux drive out

temporarily

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Windows is already on it

I installed Linux after

It is taking forever for this timeshift

Just on syncing files with rsync

Not progress bar movement yet

Love this hard drive lmao

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n explore this well. helps u learn

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Okay

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explore the whole help file on it

k byee

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do

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Does that mean fast startup is enabled idk how to turn it off

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powercfg /h off and no worries

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Tytyty

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then recheck with powercfg /a

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Appears so I no longer see anything saying fast startup when I rechecked

Just shows the following sleep states stuff

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so no mention of it/

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yeah, im scared to fully have both drives plugged in i think i have everything set up but idk if theres anything i should do on the linux side of things before having both drives plugged int, i just have my windows ssd plugged in rn with the linux hdd unplugged in case something goes wrong

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i figured it out i didint put enough storage drrives

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ahh

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didnt mean to turn your help thing into mine as well btw mb

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i watched a setup video from like a year ago and i followed the video but now the files are larger

so thats why

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i see

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☑️

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you may have both drives plugged in. simply use the BOOT MENU KEY at power on to select your second-favourite OS.

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also

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your favourite OS will be at the top already in the BIOS settings of priority

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i can have secuyre boot on right

idk why but the tutorials i watched said turn it off then never said to turn it back on

and i need it on for windows games

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idk if u had set up linux with it off, it may not boot

u can try n check

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shit

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to set it up with secure boot on, u need to maybe do it from scratch as such.

see from here or few seconds before. https://youtu.be/CuonyS3xdwg?t=303

and then the Mint installer will have u create a secure boot password. u must REMEMBER / record that pw. on reboot the pc to the install u will need to enroll it in blue mok manager

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in the what

what is blue mok manager

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watch vid. that's for ventoy, but the blue screen is that, regardless

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idk what ventoy is

is that a distro?

ohh

cant i use rufus

also i already have linux mint installer still on my usb drive

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if rufus indeed boots to mint live after Secure Boot in BIOS is turned on , then sure.

( 💀 )

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=376059

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what about if i set up the windows with it off i cant remember if i did that....

would i have to reinstall windows

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no cuz if ur games need it on etc

simply follow the thiojoe thing in vid above. use gpt instead of mbr in the ventoy option menu before hitting install, then yeah . simple choose erase n install linux (after taking windows drive out ofc)

Also read the forum post above. re: the Mok thing u will need to do post-install of Mint on first reboot

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okay so use ventoy, and when writing linux to the usb set it to gpt, i dont need to reinstall windows, and after installing mint after first reboot do the mok thing

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Correct? Also my wifis dying

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yikes

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Fucking auto correct

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lmao!!

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The wifi router is like turning off and on a lot

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rofl

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corret?

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one thing at a time eh

yes see our #1295728709306683482 for 'how to make a linux mint usb'

for further detail

and the vid where i linked it

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