#help with linux

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foggy adder
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Read this and decide yourself. If you have any more questions please ask

dense lynx
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Probably you can switch to linux this can even enhance your basic understanding of of what a operating system is and how does it actually works but it totally dependens upon you Linux is a great operating system from my side since it gives us more access to our hardware

dense lynx
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XD

vale crystal
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maybe i worded the question wrong 💀

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vale crystal
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Motivation for Switching: I recently transitioned to Fedora Linux, driven by curiosity and a desire for a fresh computing experience. Having grown complacent and prone to procrastination on Windows 11, I wanted to explore something new for fun.
• Background Interest: My fascination with operating systems sparked during a computer science course last semester, where I studied OS concepts. This inspired me to experiment with Linux.
• Virtual Machine Experience: I initially tried Linux via a virtual machine, but found its performance and usability lacking compared to a native installation.
• Decision to Go Native: Despite Windows 11 running smoothly on my laptop with no performance or usability issues, my curiosity about Linux led me to install Fedora natively.
• Positive Experience: Three weeks into using Fedora, I’ve encountered only one minor issue. The journey has been seamless, enjoyable, and refreshing.
• Performance and Features: The OS is clean, fast, and efficient. I can effortlessly run browsers, Visual Studio Code, and even games using Lutris and Wine.
• Minimal Adjustments: The only thing I miss is a native WhatsApp client, though WhatsApp Web works perfectly as a substitute.
• Enjoyable Troubleshooting: Configuring and troubleshooting Linux has been engaging. I find both the command-line interface (CLI) and the user-friendly graphical user interface (GUI) intuitive and fun to use.

vale crystal
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i meant the vm))

dense lynx
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dense lynx
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I'm biased towards Linux btw

vale crystal
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Even if you dont like it you can switch back to windows thats what i thought i saved my windows11 key and was gonna switch back if i faced any major issue

vale crystal
vale crystal
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But thankfully i loved my experience and except my fingerprint sensor not having a driver there was no issue at all

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vale crystal
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or any distro

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Mainly internet drivers, i can tether from my tablet if not

dense lynx
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vale crystal
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The more you think the more delay and doubts you get just remember its not that important its just a os and computer just have fun

foggy adder
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read that thread i sent you bro

vale crystal
foggy adder
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copy pasted from that reddit thread:
the cons:

Technicality. Linux has come a long way in this 30+ years, but some aspects of the system are technical, so you may need to get your hands dirty in some situations and open up a terminal and run some commands to get some things working.

Compatibility with programs. Linux is not macOS or Windows, nor it is a "free" version of those. It is it's own OS, separate from those. This also means you cannot run windows' .exe programs or macOS apps on it. Despite Linux having a sizeable pool of programs to install, some developers have refused to make Linux versions of their programs, and the free open source alternatives may not work for you. The most common offenders in this case are almost everything Adobe and multiplayer games with anti-cheat systems.

Learning curve. Yes, you will need to learn a bit about computers and how Linux works, as unlike Windows or macOS it won't hide it's complexity for you. You will also will need to re-learn some stuff and leave old habits behind.

Fragmentation. As I said, there is not a single Linux OS out there, but many 'distros'. This has the downside that each one of those distros is a small world into itself, meaning not everything is standard in Linux. For example, you have like 5 different commands to install programs, depending on what distro you use, and also the availability of those programs could vary.
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If you are alright with these then please go ahead

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foggy adder
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Also, compatibility is fine with programs however with niche programs you sometimes have to deal with difficulties yourself

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Plus help is usually given but its not a guaruntee

foggy adder
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Canonical is slowly driving ubuntu to shit. The only ubuntu flavor i recommend is lubuntu or kubuntu

vale crystal
foggy adder
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If programs and learning curve isnt a problem then linux is better by a LONG shot

vale crystal
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better performance too

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i have a crappy HP laptop

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Nowadays you can use chatgpt and get guides and make solutions to your problems and ask for easy step by step and why we are doing these

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ill install it tmr, i need windows for stuff currently

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unkempt wren
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worthy distros to try out : ubuntu, ubuntu MATE, ubuntu Budgie , Debian xfce, Mint xfce

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u can literally slap ALL those iso's on one big usb if it's prepped with UUI or ventoy, and try 'em all one by one in live environment

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and yes, Debian has live ISOs now

vale crystal
# vale crystal Or wtv distro i choose

I have tried ubuntu and arch on vm but just like casual try of using it never tried anything properly but now i have fedora 42 on my main and only laptop and clean fast great

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You can try distrosea its a website you can try any distro on

vale crystal
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Endaevour and fedora were my top 2 options and i choose fedora

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quick coyote
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if you're thinking about it then do it, make backups obviously from windows and install any distro u want, if u don't like it u can install something else

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I doubt you'll learn very much using Ubuntu tho

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# vale crystal i wasted too much time now its the next day 😭

There is a saying in my natuve language i will translate for you it goes like you do things tomorrow or today its better to do things now instead because what else matter and dont procrastinate (i butchered the translation although you can vaguely understand what i mean)

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vale crystal
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Well i didn’t know about that lol 😂

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and i need the usb after

vale crystal
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Well i think you can use your usb after that its just the data will be deleted to make a bootable

vale crystal
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nothing in them

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But i am not knowledgeable about this but i heard its a simple un burning of usb i heard about it vaguely

vale crystal
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i have alternative ways

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like a glitch with the windows installer to put a custom iso on the usb

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@vale crystal • Balena Etcher doesn’t ruin USB drives: It overwrites data to create bootable drives, but doesn’t cause physical damage.
• Common issues:
• Drive shows reduced capacity or becomes unreadable due to new filesystem (e.g., ISO9660).
• Logical issue, not hardware damage; usually fixable by reformatting.
• Wear risk: Repeated flashing can wear out flash memory over time, but normal use is safe.
• Failed flashes: May occur with low-quality drives, interruptions, or incompatible images (e.g., Windows ISOs).
• Fixing “ruined” drives:
• Reformat using GParted, Diskpart, or Disk Utility.
• Use low-level tools for write-protected drives.
• Prevention:
• Use high-quality USB drives.
• Back up data before flashing.
• Avoid interrupting the process.
• Alternatives: Rufus, Ventoy, USBImager, or Raspberry Pi Imager if issues persist.

vale crystal
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Idk about that you can see alternative if you want

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well you did try to help, thanks

foggy adder
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#1295728709306683482 has a guide on making bootable isos if you want to refer to one

vale crystal
vale crystal
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Its not gonna ruin your pc or pendrive anyways

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Just full send

vale crystal
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the pc is more important

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if i dont like it i can get windows back on the usb

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-# i totally installed windows 11 from the official installer not changing registry bc i dont meet requirements

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I used my usb too make 2 bootable and it still works

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Just copy the windows key

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There is a command to see that use chatgpt

vale crystal
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idk why

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just cant decide

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vale crystal
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Mint cinnamon is perfect balance for usability and features and i think its just pre installed packages rest you can manually download whatever you want like wine proton and lutris for gaming (even ourated games)

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Mint cinnamon is best

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Its made hy ubuntu but uts diffrent

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I just hate the old weird look of ubuntu

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I like modern clean interface

vale crystal
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vale crystal
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Vertical left side task bar is ass

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It takes space on the screen i prefer no taskbar at all

vale crystal
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and ive found some flatpaks/flathubs to change it to the bottom properly

vale crystal
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You do you

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I would suggest mint

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But if you like some bad distro you can try ubuntu

vale crystal
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its whatever you prefer

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I would rather use win11 than ubuntu

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I hate ubuntu especially the wallpaper and taskbar and icons its looks old and weird

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i could just stick with windows

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Yeah my friends also is facing issues in mint and he will shift back to win11

vale crystal
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Try fedora its great for me not a single problem except the drivers issues as my fingerprint doesn’t have a driver officially rest everything is fine

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he had all drivers installed too

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I have ryzen 5 5600h and integrated amd radeon graphics card and 16 gigs ram and 500gb ssd nveme and its runs smoothly on mine and my fried has a worse laptop and i feel like its running even more smoothly on his laptop

vale crystal
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42 workstation

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workstation has bad performance on bad pcs from what ik

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nvm im thinking of ubuntu pro

vale crystal
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I like this style as i kept the task bar on my win11 to hide always

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I want a full display either what content i want

vale crystal
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if yk how

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You can ask in fedora discord they will help you but be readythey are really g*y

vale crystal
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code to it?

unkempt wren
unkempt wren
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also dash to dock if u want a Mac-style doc on either the bottom or side

vale crystal
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Yeah i am getting it too maybe the site is down but i have the iso file if you want i can send it to you but how will you like to get ut as its in 2.4 gb

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@vale crystal

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I downloaded it some days ago when the site worked lol

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unkempt wren
vale crystal
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now my usb cant boot

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it doesnt format it and adds write protection so i cannot format it

unkempt wren
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what was the exact issue of 'can't boot'?

vale crystal
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just got the message i get with every single installer except windows

unkempt wren
unkempt wren
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did u get a blue mok screen?

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unkempt wren
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pure blue

vale crystal
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only had an ok button and a blue box

unkempt wren
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yes

vale crystal
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oh

unkempt wren
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that's one variation

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did u click ok?

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unkempt wren
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see this from about 5 seconds before the timestamp: https://youtu.be/CuonyS3xdwg?t=303

THE LAST BOOTABLE USB YOU'LL EVER NEED
Links:
• Samsung USB on Amazon ⇨ https://geni.us/Bb5B (affiliate)
• Ventoy Website ⇨ https://ventoy.net/en/index.html
• Ventoy GitHub ⇨ https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy
• Gnome-Look ⇨ https://www.gnome-look.org/browse/cat/109/order/latest/

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vale crystal
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ive sent an image earlier in this post

unkempt wren
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did u ensure secure boot support was on in ventoy?

vale crystal
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prob secure boot

unkempt wren
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he mentions lock icon

vale crystal
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now i just use fedora media writer which has the same error regardless even though fedora is signed

unkempt wren
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i didn't see any pic above

vale crystal
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diff post mb

unkempt wren
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do u have another linux pc?

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gparted would be a good tool to see how that usb stick is set up currently

vale crystal
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vms i could do it with

unkempt wren
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another windows pc?

vale crystal
unkempt wren
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no other pc?

vale crystal
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nope

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only mobile and consoles and my one laptop

unkempt wren
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and this pc ur dealing with has no OS?

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unkempt wren
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yes.

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perhaps install aomei partition tool on it

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it may give the info u need re: the "bootable" usb

vale crystal
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im not home again

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cant rn.

unkempt wren
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ok. is the pc with no OS on it fairly new? (last 6-7 years)

vale crystal
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help with linux

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unkempt wren
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sorry, i meant the pc that you're TRYING to live boot Fedora on

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unkempt wren
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how old is it roughly?

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unkempt wren
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koo

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yeah sometimes the USB has to be made in UEFI mode. that is, the flasher tool must use a GPT partitioning scheme on it. That said, you must use the BIOS option "UEFI USB storage device" when attempting to boot it, and not legacy , which will just say "USB storage device"

unkempt wren
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step 4b in the ventoy guide I linked a few minutes ago highlights that critical step

unkempt wren
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your computer's boot menu (pressing boot menu key, not bios key) should look similar to this:

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not exact, but similar

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failing all that, perhaps try a different flash stick altogether, or a black usb 2.0 port if available.

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good luck on it!

vale crystal
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because ive just been booting from the windows start from a device

unkempt wren
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well it's best to know how to do so from the real boot menu key

vale crystal
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could disable secure boot

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might be the issue

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unkempt wren
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i mean either way

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but if ur windows is borked ever, it's good to know the ideal way

vale crystal
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also when i use the fedora media writer, it doesnt auto format. it just makes the usb have no format and until i restore it i cant format it

unkempt wren
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it wouldnt hurt anything to try

unkempt wren
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or ventoy, (then clear ventoy)

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it will also unlock the drive

vale crystal
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prob secure boot blocking it

unkempt wren
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I meant it's an easy way to unlock read-only usb drives

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it can install from within Windows , has a special instruction there for that

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unkempt wren
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koo

vale crystal
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Damn you are facing alot of issues lol 😂 . I simply used rufus and i booted first try i didnt even had to change any settings like secure boot or even touch my bios even once and it ran flawlessly

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Even more easy is belena etcher

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One click boom it make the bootable

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# vale crystal 😂

I would suggest you to use chatgpt and paste all your errors and problems and ask him to troubleshoot and solve those issues

vale crystal
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I used chatgpt and it was really simple

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ive done everything at this point other than turn off secure boot

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Ask him that after doing all that its still not working

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Secure boot is the key then

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when im free at 1:45pm ill get this laptop sorted

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fedora community just said my usb is too old when its a gen 3.2 128gb sandisk that i got like 2 years ago

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I have hp 16 gigs pendrive its really slow it took 30+ min per iso copy

vale crystal
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my laptop is hp thats prob why

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I would suggest 3 things you need to do use this prompt “I’m trying to install Fedora Linux on my computer but facing issues creating a bootable USB and booting into it. I’m using [mention the tool, e.g., Fedora Media Writer, Rufus, or another] to create the bootable USB with the Fedora ISO [specify version, e.g., Fedora Workstation 41]. However, when I try to boot from the USB, I get an error [describe the error, e.g., “Failed to boot,” “Secure Boot violation,” or any specific error message displayed].
I suspect the issue might be related to Secure Boot, but I’m not sure how to confirm or resolve it. My system is [briefly describe the system, e.g., “a Dell laptop with Windows 11, UEFI firmware” or “an older PC with BIOS”]. Could you provide a step-by-step guide to:

  1. Verify if Secure Boot is enabled and how to disable it if needed.
  2. Create a properly bootable Fedora USB, including any specific settings (e.g., partition scheme, file system, or UEFI compatibility).
  3. Troubleshoot the boot error I’m encountering, including potential causes like Secure Boot, incorrect BIOS/UEFI settings, or USB preparation issues.
  4. Any additional Fedora-specific considerations for a successful installation.
    Please explain in simple terms, as I’m not very experienced with Linux or BIOS/UEFI settings. If there are alternative tools or methods to create the bootable USB, please suggest them. Thank you!”
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Fill in the [] bracket by your info

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ill ask chatyap (bad joke) rn

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Yeah ask yap pt (great joke

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unkempt wren
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I got a cheap flash drive with many ISOs on it. just put debian live on it earlier, and took over 15 mintues to copy , but it worked np

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unkempt wren
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mine has a light too, so when it stops flashing for good, i know damn sure the write is done

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you can also see pendrivelinux.com website, there's a handy tool there been around a decade called universal usb installer

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and if your usb drive doesnt have a light, wait extra minute once Windows or UUI says it's done writing files

vale crystal
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I would suggest use belena etcher it just simple you dont have to do anything and it does the stuff and setting for you

vale crystal
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oops mb to delete

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Hey i can help you

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meant to delete smth i said in fedora community

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But its really simple

vale crystal
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I used a video tutorial

vale crystal
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same error anything i do

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Ok right now i am a little busy

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But you can make video of the problem and errors and send them here i will see them and give solutions

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Troubleshooting Steps

  1. Verify Fedora ISO
    • Issue: Corrupted ISO causes boot failure.
    • Fix:
    1. Download Fedora ISO from getfedora.org.
    2. In PowerShell (Win + S, type PowerShell), run: Get-FileHash -Algorithm SHA256 C:\Path\To\Fedora.iso
    3. Compare with checksum on Fedora site.
    4. If mismatched, re-download.
  2. Check USB Drive
    • Issue: Faulty USB prevents booting.
    • Fix:
    1. Plug USB into PC, check in File Explorer (Win + E).
    2. Format to FAT32 (right-click USB, “Format,” select FAT32, “Start”).
    3. If not detected, try another port or replace USB (8GB+).
  3. Create Bootable USB
    • Issue: Improper USB creation fails boot.
    • Fix:
    1. Use Rufus (rufus.ie):
    • Select USB, Fedora ISO, GPT (UEFI) or MBR (Legacy), FAT32.
    • Click “Start.”
    2. Or use Fedora Media Writer (getfedora.org).
    3. If it fails, try another USB or tool.
  4. Fix BIOS/UEFI
    • Issue: Wrong settings block USB boot.
    • Fix:
    1. Restart, press BIOS key (F2, F12, Del, or Esc).
    2. In “Boot” menu, set USB as first.
    3. Set UEFI (modern PCs) or Legacy mode to match USB.
    4. Disable “Secure Boot” if needed.
    5. Save (F10), restart.
  5. Test on Another PC
    • Issue: PC-specific issue.
    • Fix: Boot USB on another PC. If it works, recheck BIOS or ports on original PC.
  6. Check Hardware
    • Issue: Incompatible hardware.
    • Fix: Use USB 3.0 port, verify PC has 64-bit CPU, 2GB+ RAM (msinfo32).
vale crystal
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like select boot device

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I am a little confused can you show a video of you doing this

vale crystal
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cant record bios

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fedora community is trying to help anyway

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ill let you know if it works then step 1 is done

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Yeah get their help

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All the best

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# vale crystal All the best

chatgpt that you recommended is better, i left the fedora server bc no matter what i ask, they wont help and say my internet is bad..

vale crystal
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and got into fedora

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now just waiting for the millions of ok messages

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failed

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i got in

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@vale crystal Great the people on there care more about lgtb than helping normal people and listening to their problems

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How is it running

vale crystal
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sober which lets me run roblox lets me run heavy games at stable fps

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i usually get 6fps, now i get 30 - 70

vale crystal
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battery life is also really good even with performance mode

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usually i get a hour or so on windows, now a few more hours on fedora

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gnome tweaks adds the minimise and maximise button and now im all set

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just gotta get my apps

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only issue is a long time to login and boot but i just go get smth to drink or eat while i wait

vale crystal
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@unkempt wren @vale crystal Thank you both for all of your help on this.

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(if i pinged the right people)

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when its hot it also starts to lag but thats bc it has no cooling

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Like this image

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Tbh i liked windows 11 i didn’t have any problems with it just wanted to try linux

vale crystal
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I dont mind it but its the performance mostly

vale crystal
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wont help it still gets to 90'C sometimes

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The best part about linux is you can customise it even tho i haven’t i like the default version

vale crystal
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my cursor also lags the odd times when loading stuff but after its fine

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it stops me getting apps like discord and steam and minecraft

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What do you mean? I have discord in my fedora already

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I think I installed it thorough flathub in software store

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how do you get that transparent theme? or is it just your camera giving the effect

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But be careful there is a way to install extensions and you have to enable it thorough terminal and
Firstly when you open the website you have to select the latest version as your fedora is latest right then it automatically downloads and you have to manually unzip it and then move the downloaded file to the /home/<your-system-name>/.local/share/gnome-shell/extentions folder and open the metedata.json and copy the uuid and then rename the folder pf the extention to exactly that and then log out of pc then log back in and use the enable command -
gnome-extensions enable <extention-uuid-name>

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@vale crystal how is you experience?

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or am i not using it right

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combined with dash to dock

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do you know any other good extensions?

vale crystal
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post closed but open for more questions

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@vale crystal

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i prefer cinnamon taskbar/dock and start menu, runs better and fedora straight up stopped working after i considered going to mint

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Bro you’re a bop at this point you’re for the distros 😭 @vale crystal

vale crystal
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Is the most similar to windows and beutiful too

vale crystal
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I cant find the perfect one

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Setting up kde right now but it eats ram.

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Thats why i use fedora default and will never switch to anything

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Because if i allow myself to change now i won’t stop

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wait im on fedora rn 😂 (kde not workstation rn)

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You’re overthinking and overdoing

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Just do whatever you think is right its just a os nothing more or less

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