#installing mint xfce manually onto MBR disk with windows.

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rustic swan
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Are you installing it to the USB?

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No

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I'm confused what you're trying to accomplish

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So can you explain what you want?

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Ive created an unallocated partition of disk as you can see in win 7 image

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Now I want to install mint on that unallocated disk space

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What happens when you try the normal dual boot option instead of manual

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Hmm I have multiple disk partition

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So I wanna play safe

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I have no idea how to manually partition, I recommend googling and or searching other support threads

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Oh well I found this

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Wait I'm still confused

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How do I make swap?

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How much space should I give to root folder and home folder?

lusty bolt
rustic swan
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I gave 512 mb for efi

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512 for xfs

lusty bolt
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The EFI partition has to be FAT32 and the other partition can be btrfs, ext4 or there's probably some others

rustic swan
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Twice the ram to swap

lusty bolt
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You have no EFI partition, it won't boot

rustic swan
rustic swan
lusty bolt
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It has to be fat32 and mounted at /boot/efi

rustic swan
lusty bolt
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You haven't made a root partition, I'm also confused as to what the xfs partition is for

rustic swan
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It said for legacy system

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Xfs is required

lusty bolt
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Yours isn't a legacy system if you booted with UEFI

rustic swan
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Wait

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I haven't check if it's uefi or not

lusty bolt
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This warning makes me think its UEFI

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I'd still check though

rustic swan
lusty bolt
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Not sure, I'd just restart

rustic swan
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Oh

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I will have to work hard again

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But okay

lusty bolt
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When did the PCs motherboard get released

rustic swan
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Ok wait

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Im into bios

rustic swan
lusty bolt
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Send image of boot options

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Boot menu

rustic swan
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Wait I just googled and found that it has uefi

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@lusty bolt

lusty bolt
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Hmm, it should ideally say UEFI: [device] if it has UEFI

rustic swan
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So what do you think, it has?

lusty bolt
rustic swan
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Windows 7

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Ultimate

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32 bit

lusty bolt
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Go into it and hit Super + R

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Then type msinfo32

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It should tell you under "BIOS Mode"

rustic swan
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I was doing same

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I also have cpuz

lusty bolt
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Is your CPU 64 bit or only 32 bit?

rustic swan
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64 bit

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Found on Intel's site

lusty bolt
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K, just check what BIOS mode it uses in msinfo32

rustic swan
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Wait

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Where is it located?

lusty bolt
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System Summary under BIOS Mode

rustic swan
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Are you sure?

lusty bolt
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open cmd and type bcdedit /enum

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then print result

rustic swan
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It said access denied

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I guess I have to do in admin

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Wait I got result

lusty bolt
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Yeah it's legacy

rustic swan
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Ok then

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What should I do?

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Should I boot into live environment again?

lusty bolt
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@sleek tartan you wouldn't happen to know how to set up partitions for legacy BIOS would you?

rustic swan
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Okay so I have to make partition of

sleek tartan
rustic swan
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1)xfs
2)swap
3)root

sleek tartan
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sample

sample.png
rustic swan
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Oh that's nice diagram

sleek tartan
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note, the above sample uses UEFI, thus the red EFI partition is placed at start of disk

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if on legacy, omit it

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your computer certainly must be legacy, if it's that core2

rustic swan
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It's legacy

sleek tartan
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also note: you DONT have to make home partition

rustic swan
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Okay I will not

sleek tartan
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just root one, and maybe like 2 gigs swap

rustic swan
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Just stay here, im making partitions rn

rustic swan
sleek tartan
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dont need one

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bootloader goes on the secret spicy area

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if u do manual install mode, then u just tell it the disk name.

rustic swan
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Im on manual install

sleek tartan
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may I ask why?

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is there important data existing on the disk that you cannot just let it auto-install and wipe disk?

rustic swan
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Umm, cause I created a unallocated partition before so that I can protect data while dual booting since I have multiple partitions on drive

sleek tartan
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kk

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can u show a pic of the DISKS application open, with your hard drive/ssd selected please?

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just type disks in the start menu

rustic swan
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You can check the first images for reference

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And the gnome disks app

sleek tartan
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show disks app please

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ok need to edit that first. u see where it says Partitioning: Master Boot Record?

rustic swan
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Yea

sleek tartan
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that limits you to a grand total of 4 primary partitions

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if u tried to format that empty one, it would just fail.

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what u gotta do is resize the extended partition TO THE LEFT to fill that gap

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open gparted, and I'll guide u

rustic swan
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Ok wait

sleek tartan
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lol can u zoom it?

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just have the window fill the camera frame

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hold camera like landscape mode

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thx. geeze that's blurry

rustic swan
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Sory but my camera is very shit

sleek tartan
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anyway, first thing, right click on the one that says extended partition, and choose move/resize, and then move it all the way to left.

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like move it so it's touching sda3

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make sure u pick sda4 to move (it says extended)

rustic swan
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Unallocated one?

sleek tartan
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no read the chart man

rustic swan
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Oh sorry

sleek tartan
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highlight sda4, right click it, do move

rustic swan
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Sprry

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It's sda5

sleek tartan
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hmm.. well that looks weird.

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ok in the space PRECEDING field,

rustic swan
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Yea

sleek tartan
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wait something is not right

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cancel that box

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do again. choose sda4, resize, then show

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dont touch any sliders or numbers just show

rustic swan
sleek tartan
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great.. now u see in the space preceding field?

rustic swan
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Yea

sleek tartan
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put 0

rustic swan
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Ok

sleek tartan
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then in the space following field, put 103000

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and press Tab on keyboard, then show it

rustic swan
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Wait I press tab and it switch back vaule to 1

sleek tartan
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oh ok

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just put zero in the Space preceding field, then hit the 'move/resize button'

rustic swan
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What about space following?

sleek tartan
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one thing at time

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click button and show it

rustic swan
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It value is 103000 right now, is that okay?

sleek tartan
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must be put to 0 in space preceding

rustic swan
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I had

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Let me send the ss

sleek tartan
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click resize/move

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show the main window after.

rustic swan
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Done

sleek tartan
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ok, this will take some time because it has to move 39 GiB of data.

rustic swan
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Ok

sleek tartan
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maybe 15 minutes.

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maybe more or less.

rustic swan
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Im just wondering

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How do you know this much about it

sleek tartan
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so click on the green checkmark to apply the operation,.

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helped ppl many times

rustic swan
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Damn

sleek tartan
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plus the logic.

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all the data blocks have to shift left. right now 39 binary Gigs are used by data so

rustic swan
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Will it delete my data or not

sleek tartan
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no

rustic swan
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Okay

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Im probably not understanding anything rn but I'm still enjoying it.

sleek tartan
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is it underway?

rustic swan
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I guess so

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It's same as the image

sleek tartan
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dont click anything, but answer this: did u click the green checkmark?

rustic swan
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No

sleek tartan
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ok 2nd question. is there anything super critical on that 39 Gigs of data that you have NOT backed up?

rustic swan
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I've backep up the most important data but not sure all of it

sleek tartan
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ok click the green check to begin the move.

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make sure laptop is plugged in and has battery too.

rustic swan
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It doesn't have battery

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It's running on power

sleek tartan
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are u sure u have stable electricity?

rustic swan
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Yea I have stable elec

sleek tartan
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ok cuz it will take some time as I said

rustic swan
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It says completed operations

sleek tartan
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it moved all 39 gigs already?

rustic swan
sleek tartan
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good, hit close button, then show the main window

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ok this is not going well. can u just go into Windows, and copy all that 39 Gigs in sda5 over to sda2 please?

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sda2 is probably ur C: volume. just move all the stuff over there. u have too many partitions.

rustic swan
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Wait what's sda 2

sleek tartan
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look at the chart, man

rustic swan
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Oh

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In c?

sleek tartan
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shows u have over 60 binary gigs free there.

rustic swan
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So should I restart?

sleek tartan
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move all the data over, and then reboot to this same point with gparted in live mode.

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ya do it from Windows plz

rustic swan
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Ok

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It has 3 partition

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C,D,E

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C has windows installed

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D and E has data

sleek tartan
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sda2 (probably C:) is the one with over 60 Gigs available on it

rustic swan
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It will take around 30 min

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I will also move D drive data to C

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Oh wait I cant

sleek tartan
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just free up E: so we can delete it complete and redo it proper.

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move the 39 gigs of data, just paste all folders into one big folder in C:

sleek tartan
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all done @rustic swan ?

rustic swan
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Im sorry

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I fell asleep

rustic swan
sleek tartan
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and make a new extended partition occupying all the grey space.

rustic swan
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Im extremely sorry my mom is calling me I have to go rn

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I might come 45 min later

rustic swan
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Im back sir

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@sleek tartan

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Sorry for inconvinience

sleek tartan
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hi

rustic swan
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Hi

rustic swan
sleek tartan
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u moved all the stuff right?

rustic swan
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Yea it's empty

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E is empty

sleek tartan
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double check in DISKS APP

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open it, click the sda5

rustic swan
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Wait

sleek tartan
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click play button

rustic swan
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Ok done

sleek tartan
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does it show mounted at: in blue text?

rustic swan
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Yes

sleek tartan
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if yes, click that text

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confirm all those files u know u copied for sure

rustic swan
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Left

sleek tartan
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oh ok

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in Disks app, near that blue text , it says used/ free

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what are the numbers?

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still shows 20% full

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maybe just junk

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in those 2 system folders

rustic swan
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Yea maybe

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Can I now merge the free space and E?

sleek tartan
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well first hit the stop button on sda4

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or 5

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click sda2 and stop

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sda3 and stop

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sda5 and stop

rustic swan
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Yea I stopped everything

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Or I unmounted them

sleek tartan
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close the disks app, and in gparted, delete the extended partition

rustic swan
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Im not getting option to delete

sleek tartan
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delete the ones within it

rustic swan
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Done

sleek tartan
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ok now right click in the grey and make new extended partition

rustic swan
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New partition?

sleek tartan
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yes a new SECONDARY PARTITION within the extended partition

rustic swan
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Should i just click add button?

sleek tartan
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or it calls it "logical" but put in label Linux

rustic swan
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Okay okay

sleek tartan
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then hit add

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then hit the green checkmark

rustic swan
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Done

sleek tartan
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ok next step

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in the thing u named Linux, right click it, do resize

rustic swan
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Okay

sleek tartan
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then grab ONLY the RIGHT EDGE

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of thr sizer, and drag it left

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so you get about 108 gb

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yeh

rustic swan
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Okay so now what?

sleek tartan
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then click resize

rustic swan
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Done

sleek tartan
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the jobs list should say 'shrink sda5' not move

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and so the linux ext4 is in the left, under the extended partition

rustic swan
sleek tartan
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k hit the apply checkmark

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then in the remaining 165 GB of grey space, right click, and do New: put size: 2048 MiB type: linux-swap

rustic swan
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Of the swap partition I get it

sleek tartan
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yes click apply to that msg

rustic swan
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Ok operations done

sleek tartan
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just the shrink, or both?

rustic swan
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Just the shrink

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Im not doing swap

sleek tartan
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u should

rustic swan
sleek tartan
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neither

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in the size field

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for NEW

rustic swan
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New size?

sleek tartan
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u did make new right?

rustic swan
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Yea

sleek tartan
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space preceding - 0

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space following will be difference of size minus 2048

rustic swan
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I see

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Is this okay?

sleek tartan
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see if u can put 0 in the preceding field

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and put label: swap

rustic swan
sleek tartan
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then add

rustic swan
rustic swan
sleek tartan
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then right click the remaining grey space do new

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make it exFAT

rustic swan
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Ok

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Done

sleek tartan
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occupying all the rest, and label

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E_SPARE

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good

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add

rustic swan
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Done

sleek tartan
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then read the jobs list

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read to me

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ok good

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click the checkmark

rustic swan
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Okay

sleek tartan
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after it is finished, u can close gparted

rustic swan
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It's finished

sleek tartan
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and show a clear pic of DISKS app

rustic swan
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Now I'm closing alr

sleek tartan
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good

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that's how it should be

rustic swan
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I think deleted the wrong drive

sleek tartan
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u will install linux to partition 5

rustic swan
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Yea it was D I guess

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Anyways leave it

sleek tartan
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that's why i made u check

rustic swan
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Since I backuped

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In my pendrive already

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Both D and E

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Atleast the most important one

sleek tartan
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run installer now

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tag me at page 5 of it

rustic swan
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Ok

sleek tartan
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choose something else option

rustic swan
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Im bit sad that I deleted the wrong partition tho

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But okay

sleek tartan
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there's nothing here. u moved them to C:

rustic swan
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D drive do have the data

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I moved The E one as you said

sleek tartan
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k whatever

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label ur volumes next time

rustic swan
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That's not mine

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It's my uncle's laptop

sleek tartan
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that's why u always backup

sleek tartan
rustic swan
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I backed up my data

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In pendrive

sleek tartan
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..

rustic swan
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Im on something lese page

sleek tartan
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i think antix will work best on it, but if u wanna try with mint xfce go ahead

rustic swan
sleek tartan
sleek tartan
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u can tick format, and use as ext4 journalling filesystem

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that's it, then proceed with install

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mhm

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make sure mountpoint set like i said

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then install

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yep perfect

rustic swan
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I pressed ok

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Now install now button?

sleek tartan
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if u change distros, u repeat this step exactly

rustic swan
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Ok

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I will not change tho

sleek tartan
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installing to sda5, and mounting as / and format

rustic swan
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I just hope this doesn't break me

sleek tartan
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ok proceed

rustic swan
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Now I'm installing

sleek tartan
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notice in last pic, place for bootloader will be the 500GB drive's

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master boot record

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that's the secret area

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dont worry about the EFI message

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just continue

rustic swan
sleek tartan
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dont worry it's right

rustic swan
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Is it alright?

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Okay

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Should I continue?

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Im pressing continue

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Alr

sleek tartan
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should take about 23 minutes now

rustic swan
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It's now installing

sleek tartan
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k

rustic swan
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Installation done

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Let me just check the dual boot

rustic swan
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@sleek tartan I have another problem

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My grub boot loader is not showing

sleek tartan
rustic swan
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When it boots

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It shows black screen

sleek tartan
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what does it boot to?

rustic swan
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But no boot loader

rustic swan
sleek tartan
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oh ok.

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boot the usb back to mint live, then search and run the Boot Repair program

rustic swan
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Okay wait

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I was installing ungoogled chromium

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Btw should I get flatpak version or binary version?

sleek tartan
rustic swan
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Yes

sleek tartan
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if they offer a deb package, then get that

rustic swan
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Okay

sleek tartan
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Mint comes with a handy program called gdebi that will install it for you when you save it and double-click it

rustic swan
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Yea ik gdebi

sleek tartan
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btw, did u have internet connected while u were installing? and chose to get the extra media codecs?

rustic swan
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Yes

sleek tartan
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ah good

rustic swan
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I've used mint before tho

sleek tartan
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ahh

rustic swan
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It was good experience

sleek tartan
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kool. in the welcome screen, it mentioned to set up your local area software internet sources, I hope you did that.

rustic swan
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I did it

sleek tartan
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nice

rustic swan
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It was set to US

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I changed it to my country

sleek tartan
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always is.

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even though I think Mint is developed by a French guy, presumably in France

rustic swan
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Doesn't matter

sleek tartan
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but who knows, maybe their main site is indeed in the US

rustic swan
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Since I'm using mirror from a reputed university in my country

sleek tartan
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yep yep

rustic swan
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Ugc is installed now I will do as you said

sleek tartan
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you know what else I'd recommend to add to your panel? it's an xfce applet called 'network monitor'

sleek tartan
rustic swan
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Yes it runs

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But it's chromium

sleek tartan
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k

rustic swan
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Doesn't seems like ugc

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Logo isn't changed

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Uses default chromium logo

sleek tartan
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ofc

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I've never used it before, but if you comb through all the settings, I bet you'll see no google stuff

rustic swan
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What I remember was I changed its logo to red one

rustic swan
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Im doing as you said

sleek tartan
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k

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read and save the summary as a text file to the hard drive.

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after it finishes the job.

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save to your 'Linux' sda5 partition in the /home/youruser/ place

rustic swan
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Ok

sleek tartan
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you still didn't do it???

rustic swan
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What to do now

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Recommended repair?

sleek tartan
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es

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yes

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in my xfce, I always add the red circled applet like that

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one bar is a graph for download speed, the other is for upload speed.

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u can do right click panel> add items to panel

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search the complete items list, u should have a thing called 'network monitor'

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hopefully mint included the goodies

rustic swan
sleek tartan
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ok it should open the file now

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open your file manager there, open the linux volume so it mounts, then save it there the summary text file

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why opening it as root?

rustic swan
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Ifk

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Idk

sleek tartan
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scroll down it, can u read all the text ok?

rustic swan
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Yea

sleek tartan
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maximize the window

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did u mount your linux volume?

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the 108 GB one that u installed

rustic swan
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It's mounted

sleek tartan
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ok in the text editor, do Save As

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and save it to desktop

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from desktop, copy and paste it to user home in the Linux volume for safekeeping in case it must be studied later

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then once that's done, reboot, and see if grub works

rustic swan
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Whot to do now

sleek tartan
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or put it in E_spare

rustic swan
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Where to put?

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Desktop?

sleek tartan
rustic swan
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I saved in e spare

sleek tartan
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see if it opens from there

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and is readable

rustic swan
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Can't see it in e spare

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It looks empty

sleek tartan
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save to desktop then

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once it's on the desktop, close all the windows, press ctrl-alt-t and do sudo thunar

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from root mode thunar move it from desktop to E_spare

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SAVE IT from the red text editor TO THE DESKTOP

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do SAVE AS

rustic swan
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I did

sleek tartan
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ok then move it from the desktop to spare so u have it permanently

rustic swan
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.desktop file?

sleek tartan
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dude WTF

rustic swan
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Wait

sleek tartan
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save the bloody text file to the desktop

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then MOVE it to a permanent location on ur hard drive

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good, does it open from there and is legible?

rustic swan
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Im sorry for dumb mistakes

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My head is literally aching due to this

rustic swan
sleek tartan
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ok reboot and take usb out

rustic swan
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Ok

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Thanks

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Grub showed up

sleek tartan
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did it give both OS options?

rustic swan
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Yes win 7 as well

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But I will have to again reboot to boot into win 7

sleek tartan
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yeah test that.

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should be fine

rustic swan
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Mint is pretty slow to boot tho

sleek tartan
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it's a hard drive.

rustic swan
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Yea 15 year old

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But win 7 is still hit faster

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Wait

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Windows booted up

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Thanks broooo

sleek tartan
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see if all files you moved are all there.

rustic swan
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Ok lemme check

sleek tartan
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E_spare u made as exFAT, so it should be zero problem.

rustic swan
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I can excess

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But yea I deleted wrong partition tho

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But I will manage it

sleek tartan
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how's that possible? I had you check

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i had you mount and open that sda6 before deleting it

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first from DISKS, then from the blue link text, and u showed me the picture, there was nothing in there

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just recycle bin, and system volume information - 2 folders

rustic swan
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Anways

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I have backed it up in my pendrive

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It will be there

sleek tartan
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yeah u can transfer it back to E spare now if u want

rustic swan
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So yea

sleek tartan
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ok mark this ticket solved in the tags

rustic swan
rustic swan
sleek tartan
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yes?

rustic swan
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Should I install icewm or fluxbox

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Or will it break system or not

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If I do so

sleek tartan
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i dont think it will break it, but do some research

rustic swan
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Okay

sleek tartan
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cuz bare icewm is probably not dressed nicely

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in AntiX it is seemingly very well dressed and laid out

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but idk.. i would recommend to a Timeshift save

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before trying to put it.

rustic swan
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Idc about themeing

rustic swan
sleek tartan
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i didnt mean theming, imeant in terms of function

rustic swan
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I just it to work

sleek tartan
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i've never used icewm raw and added-on secondhand

rustic swan
lusty bolt
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XFCE works perfectly OOTB

rustic swan
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What about fluxbox

rustic swan
sleek tartan
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the boys at MX make a distro with it set up perfect

rustic swan
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Then I will go with icewm

lusty bolt
sleek tartan
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"munt"

lusty bolt
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Munt

sleek tartan
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lollll

rustic swan
sleek tartan
rustic swan
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Im literally having headache now

rustic swan
sleek tartan
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put something like "installing mint xfce manually onto MBR disk with windows 7 legacy

rustic swan
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Ok

sleek tartan
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the opening statement under the title

rustic swan
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installing mint xfce manually onto MBR disk with windows.

sleek tartan
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lol i meant the first sentence, not the title

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first sentence says deleted

rustic swan
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Last time I had headache with Linux was configuring dwm on arch vm

rustic swan
sleek tartan
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oh hell yes. u really gotta know and spend time with those barebones window managers to set them up otherwise u get nothing.