Mint won't install on Acer ES1-533

[acoustic shard]

worth a try I guess?

[amber kettle]

just did all that above

[wise reef]

could work

[amber kettle]

didnt u just do all that?

[acoustic shard]

we don't have BOOT in the Debian system

[amber kettle]

grumbles

[acoustic shard]

okay.. boot live usb AGAIN.

[wise reef]

I'm cooked

[acoustic shard]

open file explorer, right click and click open as root

[wise reef]

I might aswell get my mouse instead of using the touchpad

[acoustic shard]

xd

[wise reef]

Uhh

where tf is install mint btw?

[acoustic shard]

huh?

[wise reef]

the cd...

[amber kettle]

maybe u booted real

[acoustic shard]

idk

[amber kettle]

open file mgr

[acoustic shard]

open start menu and search "install"

[wise reef]

ah yeah its here

[wise reef]

whatever so did this

[amber kettle]

2nd easiest way to know if booted in live is check disks app or lsblk if u see a "loop" device

[acoustic shard]

check this

[amber kettle]

(not counting Ubuntu due to snaps)

[amber kettle]

k

[acoustic shard]

okay

[acoustic shard]

go to boot efi EFI

[wise reef]

what

[acoustic shard]

yes

[acoustic shard]

wait nvm

this is a live session

sisyphus

[wise reef]

yeah

[acoustic shard]

mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi

[wise reef]

sudo su first?

[acoustic shard]

then go to /mnt/boot/efi/EFI

[acoustic shard]

oh yeah

[wise reef]

ok here we are

debian... the rock we roll

[acoustic shard]

there is a Debian dir right?

ok
right click
new directory
name it BOOT

[wise reef]

yes correct

[wise reef]

Would this be correct?

Kinda reminds me of modding minecraft

[acoustic shard]

go to Debian, copy the bootx64.efi file and paste it in BOOT

[acoustic shard]

yup

[wise reef]

done

[acoustic shard]

reboot I guess 🙏

[wise reef]

pray

[acoustic shard]

if it shows no bootable device, I am running out of brain

[wise reef]

I mean... If it doesnt work I'll just walk back to windows

AAAAA

[acoustic shard]

🙏

[wise reef]

HJBBWHWHQJ1NQJ1JQJQJQKQKQJRHSUAIWJEKAKSHWKWKDKSKAJKEKDDKSKWMEH

[acoustic shard]

it works?

[wise reef]

STUFF!!!!!!!!

IDFK YEAH IT DOES WTF

[wise reef]

HAHhwhdhahs

[amber kettle]

booting now?

[wise reef]

I think so

[amber kettle]

ahh

[wise reef]

moment of truth

Yes the cursor appeared

I can move it

[amber kettle]

well obv if ur ventoy drive is unplugged.

[acoustic shard]

before you say anything: there probably will be an install mint icon on your desktop and in start menu, but it's ok.

[amber kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/convulsing-old-shaking-freaking-out-gif-20476360

[acoustic shard]

😳

[wise reef]

uhm

ok it's loading

loaded

[amber kettle]

me after all this.

[acoustic shard]

bro no way

[amber kettle]

congratulationsman

[wise reef]

I mean.. we did what no other man has ever done

we installed linux mint on an Acer

so congrats

what do I do now?

no installer too

[amber kettle]

so in summary, is it right to say u helped solved this by FORCE-COPYING in rootmode the image of EFI folder from live image INTO the bad-install drive?

[amber kettle]

change the wallpaper.

test it out.. do another reboot to make sure it sticks.. correct the time-date

but seems ur good now

[wise reef]

I corrected it already lol

[amber kettle]

find the screenshot app and add it to panel 😛

make a tea

[acoustic shard]

not at all. we didn't copy anything from the live environment.

[wise reef]

But even if we did...

This is so fucking cool

[amber kettle]

so u just cross-copied a file from one place in the installed efi's folder to another?

[acoustic shard]

yes

for whatever reason

[amber kettle]

ah

geesh

[acoustic shard]

it could be avoided by just .. making correct firmware by acer

[amber kettle]

having to follow a solution from Ubuntu 14

[wise reef]

In a debian

I'll probably try and get an windows iso on this pendrive just in case though

[tall token]

The problem is the secure boot, disable it

[wise reef]

It wasnt

[amber kettle]

well now u can just download the iso from there, and save it to ventoy u have 16 gb USB

[wise reef]

the problem is that it was an acer

[wise reef]

true

[amber kettle]

was off long time ago

[acoustic shard]

bro

@wise reef change the title to [Mint won't install on Acer Aspire ES-1]

[tall token]

Hi bro

[acoustic shard]

hello

[wise reef]

Mint won't install on Acer ES1-533

[amber kettle]

and tag it solved in the edit-tags thing

[wise reef]

did it already

now I just gotta rice it a bit

to feel more like home

[acoustic shard]

grain*

[amber kettle]

all 1100+ lines of it

[wise reef]

longest tech support ever

[amber kettle]

and probably take the xfce tag off and put debian or lmde logo

[amber kettle]

lol

rice in grain form

[wise reef]

It was really nice to know you two

Thank you so much

[amber kettle]

yeah was scary and kind of educational for me too

you're welcome. enjoy byby

[amber kettle]

SOLVED Summary solution ^

[wise reef]

oh btw, where is my trashcan?

or bin

oh ok found it

thanks and byee

[carmine prism]

thats a longest help thread i have seen here good job tryed to read it all but gave up in half way

[wise reef]

alright guys

it froze

trying to install grub efi amd64

or configure it

I'll boot it up again

and just download windows on the usb stick

wtf is this

[carmine prism]

looks like grub

[wise reef]

what do I do?

[carmine prism]

what you want to do ?

[wise reef]

open... uhh the... OS?

this thing

[acoustic shard]

boot from the live usb and run boot repair. now that you have grub sorted out, it should not cause more issues

[wise reef]

ok

when I click yes it doesnt work

so I clicked on no

[acoustic shard]

no
ok

[wise reef]

reinstall grub

this may require several minutes

ok its... going

I should've never challenged the gods.

but now that I did

nvram is locked.

[acoustic shard]

did it finis

[wise reef]

it did.

this is hell

[acoustic shard]

reboot

it should work

[wise reef]

on live or HD?

[acoustic shard]

hd

[wise reef]

ok

[acoustic shard]

remove usb obviously

[wise reef]

thanks, almost forgot

booting linux

nice

[acoustic shard]

works?

[wise reef]

It should work...

I'm waiting for it to load

IT DOES

we're back

[acoustic shard]

🙏

I have to sleep now. it's getting late. Now, when you run dpkg configure again, it possibly will rewrite the boot repair with it's own broken shenanigans. apparently this can be solved by adding
GRUB_INSTALL_OPTIONS="--no-nvram"
to /etc/default/grub and then try to run dpkg configure again. try it and see. if you require help doing this, ask stunner. ✌️

[wise reef]

relief sigh

[acoustic shard]

night

[wise reef]

good night!!! sleep well lot

I'll not run it for now, for safety reasons

[wet lark]

yo this is freaky

[wise reef]

@amber kettle Where do I add it?

[wise reef]

Yes

[wise reef]

Doesn't seem to work, it froze again

imma just wait and use it like this for now

[amber kettle]

it just freezes randomly?

[wise reef]

when I try to update

it freezes

[wise reef]

im not sure if I added this right, but I think I did

[amber kettle]

screw the updates!

[wise reef]

And the codecs?

[amber kettle]

I ran my old Mint for seven years

[wise reef]

Arent those important?

[amber kettle]

the codecs u can just grab if u need DVD playback or do big sound work

[wise reef]

u sure

[amber kettle]

everything else should just work with VLC or most players/browsers

[wise reef]

Oh okay then

Im learning how to get around stuff for now

[amber kettle]

I'd add MX xfce and Win ISO to ur ventoy before it's too late and u have nothing again

[wise reef]

oh true

I'll download them

[amber kettle]

then just copy paste, then let the USB drive rest in the port for 1 or 2 minutes after copying so it cools and finishes writing its cache fully

[wise reef]

do you know how to make this smaller?

[amber kettle]

make what smaller?

[wise reef]

the tab thing

window

It feels weird

[amber kettle]

u mean the titlebar?

[wise reef]

yes

[amber kettle]

or the tab bar itself?

[wise reef]

the titlebar

arent those the same?

[amber kettle]

in firefox u can remove it

no the tab bar are where the tabs are

and the address bar is below the tab bar

right click beside a tab, choose customize toolbar

then in the customize toolbar window, there should be a thing in the bottom left area saying using system titlebar. Uncheck it.

[wise reef]

hmm

couldnt find it tbh

[amber kettle]

try again

[wise reef]

talking about this thing m

where the mouse is pointing

[amber kettle]

move it 2 mm down, right click

[wise reef]

ok

[amber kettle]

customize

then bottom left corner of the customize window

[wise reef]

Doesnt exist

[amber kettle]

u right clicked the titlebar

[wise reef]

yes

[amber kettle]

right click the TAB BAR i said

[wise reef]

OOHH

Not that

firefox is fine

it's the title bar, sorry for the confusion

[amber kettle]

did u open the customize firefox thing yes or no?

[wise reef]

yes

[amber kettle]

look bottom left corner

[wise reef]

AAAA

That's awesome, I looked to the wrong corner

This is great really

thanks

I'll just ignore the updates

[amber kettle]

can also slim the tab bar a bit if it's too fat

[wise reef]

Yeah, that'd be nice

too thicc

[amber kettle]

open new tab, and copy this address:
about:config

proceed past the warning

[wise reef]

done

[amber kettle]

then in the search field u then see, type browser.uidensity

[wise reef]

0

I put 1

[amber kettle]

click the edit icon (pencil)

change to a 1

[wise reef]

it's so much better

I can live with this

[amber kettle]

bam

[wise reef]

thanks so much for the help

[amber kettle]

plus in the Customize Firefox window, u can drag stuff up to the address bar that u may like, such as zoom controls, or fullscreen icon, or sidebar icon

and also drag DOWN stuff u don't want

[wise reef]

Oh I know, I used firefox for a while

😳

[amber kettle]

kool alright dont do anything dangerous. let those files download safely

[wise reef]

Sure thing

[wise reef]

MX is transfered and windows is slowly making it way in too

[amber kettle]

good stuff. now u have digital toolbox for pc

[wise reef]

cool, and the only acer with mint too

at least that I know

it took a while...

[amber kettle]

does urs have a dvd drive?

[wise reef]

No, sadly

it has a place for it

[amber kettle]

oh just wondering

[wise reef]

I could install one

I think

Can I install stuff?

[amber kettle]

look right on the end here, move the metal cover but do not disturb, it probably has a light/hole

[wise reef]

oh it does

it blinks

[amber kettle]

there u go, so that's activity light to know if read/write is happening

[wise reef]

windows is 90% in

then I'll remove it (safely)

and keep it (safely) somewhere

[amber kettle]

let it rest 2 minutes

[wise reef]

and move my stuff into the HD again

[amber kettle]

before eject

[wise reef]

okay

[amber kettle]

while u wait, see if u have sudo

[wise reef]

sudo su?

[amber kettle]

no no

open terminal (shortcut is ctrl-alt-t)

[wise reef]

Yeah

[amber kettle]

then try sudo blkid

[amber kettle]

did it give

ok u do have sudo privileges good

[wise reef]

Soo is everything mostly alright?

[amber kettle]

in pure Debian, it's usually not, and the maintainer or admin of the pc must do su -

that switches to a # prompt (after admin password entered)

but in lmde case, all is ready

[wise reef]

nice

[amber kettle]

u can try to install something else but gotta be careful

[wise reef]

Ok

[amber kettle]

very careful here

did it finish copying iso?

[wise reef]

yeah a couple minutes ago

I took it out now

[amber kettle]

ok lets try something for fun

[wise reef]

I'll install Calibre, which I use for ebooks

[amber kettle]

u did safe eject / unmount before pulling it I hope

[wise reef]

yes

[amber kettle]

wait

[wise reef]

waiting

[amber kettle]

k open synaptic

it's graphic tool for apps

[wise reef]

error

[amber kettle]

idk if ur familiar

what is error?

[wise reef]

dpkg....

I cant execute that, it freezes everything

[amber kettle]

translate it plz

[wise reef]

Ok

I can just change the language. one sec

[amber kettle]

even better

[wise reef]

Same error when I try to update

it corrupts the grub or efi I believe

and I have to boot repair

Imma open discord on firefox

it might be better for screenshots

[amber kettle]

that's concerning

[wise reef]

very..

[amber kettle]

but other smart ppl will know more about apt

I know a bit but not tons

[wise reef]

Do you know someone?

I'm all for testing

Damn, linux does run smoother

I'm typing this from linux

[amber kettle]

at least flatpaks should work, since they arent native apps, thus do not rely upon apt package manager, or synaptic

[wise reef]

Could I download steam?

[amber kettle]

good to hear

as a flatpak probably

[wise reef]

imma try

Oh also,
<git clone https://github.com/mrbvrz/segoe-ui-linux>
cd segoe-ui-linux
chmod +x install.sh
./install.sh

[amber kettle]

do from

[wise reef]

would this change the font?

[amber kettle]

the software manager

it might, but before turning that script (sh) executable, u really always should read inside it

[wise reef]

Okay

[amber kettle]

eg. open the sh file in common text editor program

before chmod +x

[wise reef]

lots of text

https://github.com/mrbvrz/segoe-ui-linux/blob/master/install.sh

[amber kettle]

see if there's anything saying "steal data" "copy to my bank account /cloud" "bitcoin" "rm -rf"

or "dd "

anything like that which is dangerous

[wise reef]

hmm I dont think so

no

I believe it isnt downloading

stuck like that for a while

[amber kettle]

I looked at the font script, seems ok. does the author provide samples (pictures) of what the font looks like?

[amber kettle]

if u notice the download size, (the first 5 to 8 flatpaks are always huge)

[wise reef]

yes, it's the windows font

[amber kettle]

so u can open system monitor now from start menu

[wise reef]

or a knock-off, either way it's similar enough

[amber kettle]

and see in the resource view, the network traffic

if it is downloading heavily, your FATPAK VLC

[amber kettle]

Like Calibre font?

[wise reef]

probably-

[amber kettle]

where is the sample photos for this font?

[amber kettle]

that's the processes tab

click resources tab

[wise reef]

here

no wait

yeah I think that's it

[amber kettle]

that's papirus icons

[amber kettle]

which is already in synaptic or software manager, ttf-mscorefonts, icons-papirus

[wise reef]

I don't really have those...

[amber kettle]

anyway, u see the graph for network, it's downloading heavily (blue)

[wise reef]

yes

[amber kettle]

also memory is heavy

see if u have htop

do in terminal htop

[wise reef]

nope

I can install it

[amber kettle]

maybe

try it

unless dpkg is super broken

[wise reef]

idk i'll try and we'll see

[amber kettle]

wait

[wise reef]

yep

it's broken

[amber kettle]

dont interrupt the flatpak

just type top

then show a ss

[wise reef]

vlc is downloading, just very slowly, I can see the progress bar moving

probably because of where the server is

[amber kettle]

its not the distance, but the size

[amber kettle]

.

[wise reef]

1,1GB

[amber kettle]

flapaks are so stupid,

[wise reef]

Never noticed it was that heavy

oh so it isnt normal.

[amber kettle]

but they're supposed to get smaller the more u have already

[wise reef]

that... doesnt make much sense

[amber kettle]

since they share core junk together

[wise reef]

ah great, that IS stupid

if one thing corrupts, all the apps that share it go with it

[amber kettle]

no it's normal. stupid, but normal - for flatpaks

[wise reef]

what are the alternatives?

[amber kettle]

or the next flapak will just install big

[amber kettle]

appimage

[wise reef]

can i get that or not?

[amber kettle]

google appimage hub

each file runs like a program , but doesnt really install to core

[wise reef]

ook

are them better?

[amber kettle]

as long as the properties> permissions of the .appimage file is marked as executable

[amber kettle]

i use one or two, but much prefer native apps from apt

[wise reef]

which I'm unable to get, if I were to guess?

[amber kettle]

ie: from the distro's "repos"

[amber kettle]

for now

[wise reef]

eh, it's okay

it's almost done

[amber kettle]

so if u want to check memory in use :

either top

which also shows cpu use and all processes running

[wise reef]

or monitor

[amber kettle]

the RES column is the real memory in KB i think

another way is to type free -h

[wise reef]

oh yeah

[amber kettle]

and this one good to know for all your system information thru terminal:

inxi -Fxxxz

not all distros come with inxi program, but many do

[amber kettle]

yassss

[wise reef]

My next laptop wont be a intel one

nor acer.

hopefully it's gonna be easier to install than this lol

[amber kettle]

u see even on bottom it shows memory , mem used, uptime

show the top lines

[wise reef]

yeah, it's probably high cause I'm watching a video

[amber kettle]

of inxi command from before

[wise reef]

this?

or this

I had closed it

ok so my battery IS dying, 42%! poor girl...

[amber kettle]

oh

just plug it in

[wise reef]

It is plugged in, it's just her condition

[amber kettle]

always plug in on big downloads or installs or upgrades

ah i see

[wise reef]

it's less than half of what it once was

[amber kettle]

anyway, u see that command shows a LOT of vital info, about the distro /DE and the BIOS, cpu and all other stuff , plus number of running processes and memory at bottom

[wise reef]

yes

[amber kettle]

and idk if u knew, but in terminal, up arrow shows command history

to save retyping

[wise reef]

Oh it does!

[amber kettle]

even if made a mistake, u can go up, and correct the mistaken command

[wise reef]

that's good to know

[amber kettle]

also, if ther is a long name,

[wise reef]

So I don't corrupt anything again

[amber kettle]

u can press tab

for example

if u wanted to read a long text file in terminal

cat (no pauses, better for shorter files)

or more

which gives page pauses

so eg: say in home folder was a file called 123456789abcdefghijk.txt

u could just do
cat 1234(tab)

[wise reef]

oh, it auto completes

[amber kettle]

and it will scan the folder, find the nearest match

[wise reef]

I understand

[amber kettle]

and fill it in automatically

how's VLC going?

[wise reef]

about 70% the way there

[amber kettle]

LOL omy

[amber kettle]

what's the download speed showing in system monitor?

[wise reef]

70% is scary

varies between that and 300kb

so very slow

[amber kettle]

in the resources graph

[amber kettle]

171.4 Kilobytes (binary) per secondd

not to be confused with kilobits

or megabits

ya 1.4 isn't fantastic

[wise reef]

yeah

it's gonna take a while

[amber kettle]

i get about 5 Mb/s download speed on cheap internet

[wise reef]

The capslock key is a bit weird btw

I usually use it instead of the shift key

[amber kettle]

but good internet is like 20 to 200 Mb/s

[wise reef]

mine is able to get that, but my notebook isnt

I'd have to buy a 5ghz adapter and use it instead

[amber kettle]

ah

btw, u wanna see Applets?

they're cool

[wise reef]

yeah

what are them?

[amber kettle]

right click the panel

"add applets"

panel = taskbar in linux

[amber kettle]

small accessories for the panel

[wise reef]

Openned

Ohh I love those!

[amber kettle]

go to the download section

[wise reef]

Can I have the blue light filter?

[amber kettle]

search for upload and download speed

[amber kettle]

after

[wise reef]

ok installed it

[amber kettle]

now go manage tab

[amber kettle]

find it, click the gear

[wise reef]

configured it

[amber kettle]

adjust interface to be wifi and show as bits/second

[wise reef]

it varies... a lot

[amber kettle]

or bytes as is the case above

capital B is bytes

[wise reef]

VLC is almost done

[amber kettle]

whichever rate display u prefer. i prefer bits

now for the filter

[wise reef]

I'm used to bytes, but I'll use bites to honor you

[amber kettle]

check in in terminal:
whereis redshift

[wise reef]

redshift: /usr/bin/redshift /usr/share/man/man1/redshift.1.gz

[amber kettle]

if it lists a path, good

that means it is installed

now , go back to Applets

Download more:

search for qredshift

[wise reef]

downloaded

[amber kettle]

and install it, and configure it and add to panel

qredshift is a GUI to adjust the redshift program core functionality

u can also play a bit with Desklets

[wise reef]

can I reset it?

[amber kettle]

reset what?

[wise reef]

the filter

[amber kettle]

not sure what u mean

[wise reef]

K

Temperature

[amber kettle]

u can remove the qredshift applet from the panel if u dont like it, otherwise, click the gear and adjust from within the APPLETS window

or, right click the applet itself in the tray area> configure

[wise reef]

Ok fixed it

so, desklets are like widgets?

[amber kettle]

next, u should see ur system settings, it is that white switchbox icon on the favourites strip when u open the start menu

u see it?

[wise reef]

I do

[amber kettle]

that's ur main system "control panel"

almost all distros have a main settings "control panel" some look more like Firefox settings style

I prefer Mint's and xfce's icon style

in the main settings, u can find Applets, which u already played with, plus Desklets

for example to add a calendar on desktop, or cpu meter or happy picture or idk

[wise reef]

that's cool, I can also change the logos on apps

[amber kettle]

u can also on Cinamon get to desklets from right clicking the desktop

yes, anything that is in the System Settings, is ALSO in the start menu PREFERENCES category thing

and u can just type to access

[wise reef]

nice

[amber kettle]

eg: type applets in the search bar of start menu, and it will open the applets window

[wise reef]

VLC is done installing

[amber kettle]

type text and u will get text editor suggestion

type VLC in start menu now

[wise reef]

oh the text editor is indeed enough for me

[wise reef]

it's there lol

[amber kettle]

if u type writer in menu, u will get suggestion of opening LibreOffice Writer, the included free word processor

[amber kettle]

just for fun, type disks in start menu

[wise reef]

random movie I was going to watch

[amber kettle]

and open the gnome disk utility

[amber kettle]

then click the internal drive, then click in the main partition of it,

then show full window ss

how much space is used in main partition, according to DISKS?

[amber kettle]

(keep in mind it reports decimal MB, GB) (file manager and terminal will report binary MiB, and GiB)

[wise reef]

5,8%

the language is a bit messy, maybe I should restart

[amber kettle]

so 29 METRIC GB is used so far

29,000,000,000 divided by 1024^3

[wise reef]

That's fun

math..

[amber kettle]

equals 27 GiB used

(binary gigs)

[wise reef]

ooh ok

[amber kettle]

u can see from this picture, in the blue region, the used data is a bit more bright, and the empty space is a bit darker blue

[amber kettle]

if u check in File manager, it may say GiB free instead of GB free

(Windows always reports GiB, but writes it WRONG as a GB)

[wise reef]

the more you know

calibre is installing way faster than vlc

[amber kettle]

ofc cuz it's only few hundred KB of font

anyway, now, even without other fancy codecs, u should be able to watch whatever videos u have in VLC

and play mp3's

[wise reef]

oh music! I don't really use my pc for that but I have some in the external HD

[amber kettle]

u can also explore appimagehub for "Strawberry" a type of media player for music and online radio

[wise reef]

just a sec

[amber kettle]

i think default Mint comes with Rhythmbox for mp3's n m4a n aac files

but u can change that default to VLC or whatever

[wise reef]

ulterior motives

[amber kettle]

Celluloid the movie/video player is also included i believe

[wise reef]

yep, celluloid opened for audio

[amber kettle]

u can right click on any mp3 to see options to open with

much like Windows

if u wanna explore Strawberry, I can guide u to get it

and appimage is easy to delete since they're not really "installed" just delete the file and it's gone

[wise reef]

like a portable install on windows?

[amber kettle]

exactly

[wise reef]

Also, do you wanna know a good thing about having my windows get corrupted?

any virus that I had probably went with it

[amber kettle]

yeh

[wise reef]

well, we can download strawberry

I don't think rhythm box works

[amber kettle]

https://www.appimagehub.com/p/1297098

lol

[wise reef]

winamp lol

Do I download or install it

[amber kettle]

hang on

im trying to find strawberry on there, it was there like a year n half ago, now i dont see

[wise reef]

oki

vlc isnt opening

[amber kettle]

wasn't it open before?

[wise reef]

yeah, I closed it and it won't open

same with rhtymn box

maybe it has something to do with codecs

maybe mp3 needs it or smthing

radios work

[amber kettle]

hang on

go to that mp3 folder in ur file manager

highlight an mp3 file, and press spacebar. Do u hear it play?

[wise reef]

no

[amber kettle]

right click the space in the folder and choose open in terminal

[wise reef]

it opens something up

[amber kettle]

what's the first four or five letters of the filename of the song?

[wise reef]

Moti

[amber kettle]

ok in terminal, u should be in that folder according to the prompt, yes?

[wise reef]

yes

[amber kettle]

try aplay Moti(tab key to auto-complete)

do u hear it play

[wise reef]

Playing raw data 'Motives Project - Ulterior Motives (Hi-Fi '84 AI Version) - Lyrics (128 kbps).mp3' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono

[wise reef]

not really

[amber kettle]

not really or no

[wise reef]

no

[amber kettle]

i mean if ur volume sliders are up

[wise reef]

there is sound, but it's distortion

[amber kettle]

ah

[wise reef]

like a tiririru tirire-

[amber kettle]

ok ctrl-c to cancel

[wise reef]

it's kinda nice tho

[amber kettle]

can u open VLC ?

[wise reef]

I'll try

[amber kettle]

then drag that moti file right onto it

and see if it plays there

[wise reef]

yeah it isn't opening

[amber kettle]

did it ever open?

[wise reef]

it did initially, yeah

[amber kettle]

hm do a reboot, then as soon as ur back, to desktop: ctrl-alt-t for terminal, then top and record the mem use or take pic

[wise reef]

okay just a sec

[amber kettle]

and free -h too, just for comparison then

[amber kettle]

k try to open vlc

[wise reef]

already did

[amber kettle]

1.2 GB used on fresh boot

[wise reef]

it opened

[amber kettle]

oh did it.. drag the mp3 onto it

[wise reef]

I'll open discord so I can send prints

[amber kettle]

see if plays

[wise reef]

doesnt play

[amber kettle]

go to vlc settings

see if u can change the audio section codecs to the builtin one

[wise reef]

VLC is frozen

[amber kettle]

😮

[wise reef]

oh ok it came back

[amber kettle]

no

options. not info

[amber kettle]

yes

[wise reef]

what are the built in ones?

[amber kettle]

.

audio

[amber kettle]

output mod

[wise reef]

Pulseaudio
ALSA
JACK
Audio memory
Dummy audio
file audio

those are the options

[amber kettle]

oh

leave as auto

[wise reef]

ok

[amber kettle]

idk poke around in the codecs section more

does it play a video file with sound now?

[wise reef]

Yeah it plays video files, remember the movie?

Not mp3 though

[amber kettle]

and sound was fine

[wise reef]

if it's similar to Audacity, it does need codecs.

[amber kettle]

do u have any aac or m4a files saved?

[wise reef]

I do on my phone

I'll try and put one into this

[amber kettle]

yeah fo sure

[wise reef]

it works

it is codecs not existing.

I'm listening to my bad singing skills

it's kinda fire tho

[amber kettle]

it says codecs not existing but it played the aac anyway?

[wise reef]

but I'd rather listen to the machine suffering sounds

[wise reef]

mp3 codecs dont exist

m4a did play somehow

[amber kettle]

right. but aac and m4a was fine to play/hear?

[wise reef]

yeah

[amber kettle]

i wonder if u drag an mp3 onto a new tab of firefox if it will play

[wise reef]

MIME

[amber kettle]

heh. and that was an actual .mp3 file right?

[wise reef]

yes

[amber kettle]

oh yueah i see teh address

wanna try MX as a live test?

[wise reef]

sure, we can try that

I'll boot it up

[amber kettle]

k. before u do though, I'll help u set up live persist

actually nvm boot it live first

[wise reef]

okay

[amber kettle]

see if it loads first anyway

it comes with VLC and strawberry anyway

just use normal boot in ventoy

[wise reef]

this was easier

what do I start?

[amber kettle]

start at the top

mx 23.3 hit enter

[wise reef]

ok it's starting

udev done

[amber kettle]

note the above picture, if u dont move up/down arrow, the timer will autostart the top selection

[wise reef]

this is nice too

[amber kettle]

also note the above picture the Advanced options thing

that is where u get Persistence options

[wise reef]

oh

I see

[amber kettle]

meaning, u can save the session (including changes/apps u get etc to a certain storage point) and then next time u boot live (and pick that persist thing, it will keep those settings)

[wise reef]

this distro feels better than mint smh

[amber kettle]

does it?

[wise reef]

ldme 6 at least

[amber kettle]

feels faster?

[wise reef]

yeah

[amber kettle]

u notice the welcome menu

[wise reef]

I do

[amber kettle]

it tells u two passwords

[wise reef]

demo and root

[amber kettle]

now demo is usually in sudo group

so the live user is demo, and the live user password is demo (which becuz i think has sudo power) u can used demo as password for installing apps

[wise reef]

the terminal is pretty

[amber kettle]

also notice the mx tweaks thing

MX TWEAK, sorry

[wise reef]

yes?

[amber kettle]

in the welcome screen

[wise reef]

tweak panel

[amber kettle]

that lets u easily do stuff like move the panel around

among other things

which are doable anyway in xfce, but it just gives a handy shortcut or automated way to do them

anyway, open vlc

and/or strawberry

[wise reef]

i see

[amber kettle]

and test with mp3

[wise reef]

opened both

[amber kettle]

ofc put up volume slider in tray

sometimes the live system default sound level is soooo low

[wise reef]

neither worked

[amber kettle]

also notice in Welcome screen, there is a "Tools" link: mx has many handy tools built in.

such as Boot Repair tool

and many others. even making a custom ISO with all ur customizations included

[wise reef]

It does

Live usb kernel updater

[amber kettle]

yeah i think that's if u run live system with persistence, and u (for some reason) need to use a higher/later kernel u can

[wise reef]

it has some games built in!

[amber kettle]

MX can run from usb drive persistently, BUT i was gonna help u set up some persistent files on the SSD/HDD of ur pc so it doesnt strain ur usb drive flash

[wise reef]

Oh we can do that

I promise I wont corrupt anything (again)

[amber kettle]

and u can also move those files to a backup drive later they will be two large files

ok so reboot again to that blue mountains menu, and chooose <<Advanced Options>>

[wise reef]

ok

[amber kettle]

then choose persistence item

then show pic, but I think the option is persist_static_root orsumthing

[wise reef]

Bruh

something went wrong

it booyed to lmde 6

even tho I selected the usb

[amber kettle]

well idk maybe the boot order from before 😛

just try again.

[wise reef]

oki

[amber kettle]

make sure it's in firmly

[wise reef]

that's what she said

[amber kettle]

ha!

[wise reef]

jahhshahs

ok it worked now

[amber kettle]

this is the MX live GRUB screen , or as I like to call it, the mountains menu

[amber kettle]

persist

[wise reef]

determination

[amber kettle]

ok so here u have some choices

persist all saves any non-root changes, like home files add/delete/ wallpaper change immediately to the save device and then at the end of session, it prompts u to save any ROOT changes

the other one

persist_static_root:

[wise reef]

I choose this?

[amber kettle]

hang on

i would go with the persist static root with separate root and home things on persistence device

this will immediately save all changes on the fly

so no prompts at end of session, and will make TWO large files

in the next steps

[wise reef]

how large?

[amber kettle]

u get to choose, but usually i recommend like 5 and 5 Gigs each

can be bigger

[wise reef]

ok soo I'll go with you

and choose persist_static_root

[amber kettle]

with separate

^^

[amber kettle]

then some other steps to make the files ready

[wise reef]

this, right? just to be safe

[amber kettle]

yes correct

[wise reef]

ok now

[amber kettle]

hit enter

[amber kettle]

scroll to Back

then enter on top choice to begin live boot

[wise reef]

start?

[wise reef]

oh ok

[amber kettle]

then you'll want to choose the western digital drive

the big part

[wise reef]

how

[amber kettle]

so u use the digits corresponding . in this case : 2)

just type 2

[wise reef]

ok done

no roofts file was found

[amber kettle]

i know must set up

[wise reef]

automatically?

[amber kettle]

yes create as default 8 GB

u have tons of space

[wise reef]

It asked twice and I pressed 1 twice so it went automatic btw

one was 8, other 10

[amber kettle]

what other?

the home size?

[wise reef]

yeah

anyway

[amber kettle]

u 10 GB was default for home?

[wise reef]

Probably

[amber kettle]

k

[wise reef]

continue?

[amber kettle]

yes

idk why it says that

[wise reef]

probably cause we forced mint to boot earlier

[amber kettle]

omg i cant believe there's a stinking timer in this chat

[wise reef]

We can just dm btw

[amber kettle]

nah

should really have made a new ticket but anyway

ok so it's setting up those two big files now i hope

[wise reef]

Let's just hope that anyone who sees this wanting to install linux mint on an ES1 gives up instead

[wise reef]

Yes

[wise reef]

And installs other distro or just win10

[amber kettle]

give some time

hopefully that damn kernel mismatch thing will not interfere here

[wise reef]

start init bruv

[wise reef]

Now you scared me

[amber kettle]

anyway it's live booting now right?

[amber kettle]

koo

[wise reef]

it probably did...

[amber kettle]

usb is flashing? (look but no touch)

[wise reef]

the light is on but it doesnt blink

[amber kettle]

s-ok

once this 18 GB is allocated should be a one time thing

I was gonna tell u put 5 or 6 GB for home

but w/e

[wise reef]

the light is off

[amber kettle]

then next time u need to persist boot, u go to that mountains advance menu, and just choose persist-static-root with separate

and it should auto detect and live boot with ur changes.

also give time cuz 18 GB is pretty big and takes long on an HDD

[wise reef]

why would I need persist boot tho?

[amber kettle]

if u wanna add apps or style it

it is like semi-installed

[wise reef]

Oh

[amber kettle]

does your laptop NOT have a damn hard drive indication light ANYWHERE on it?

[wise reef]

I might just... switch to it

[wise reef]

Sadly not

[amber kettle]

that's CRAZY

[wise reef]

maybe inside it?

[amber kettle]

do u hear if u put ur ear very close, the patter of the drive heads?

[wise reef]

yes I do

[amber kettle]

ah

[amber kettle]

can press alt-F1 here to see what's going on in text form

[wise reef]

it doesnt work

it froze lolololol 😭

[amber kettle]

what did?

[wise reef]

the boot

[amber kettle]

i mean if u still hear the drive pattering inside, then it's still writing 18 GIGS

[wise reef]

alt f1 doesnt work

[amber kettle]

remember, it seemed to take like 24 minutes to write less than 7 GB before

[wise reef]

idfk anymore, we've spent the whole day on this

[amber kettle]

hopefully

[wise reef]

hopefully... yeah

[amber kettle]

anyway, if it doesnt work u can just delete the two files they will be in the "Antix" folder in the root of sda3

and then just make like 3 gigs home 3 gigs root persist next time

[wise reef]

Btw do you know some way to fix the LMDE 6 ?

[amber kettle]

but probably have some dinner or something

no I really dont know about the crazy dpkg mess. that will be left open to others here. perhaps lot or Jeremy or coco

[wise reef]

Well, that's fair

I wont pretend it's not an abomination

[amber kettle]

12 minutes in.

[amber kettle]

yeah it's very strange as to why it "froze"?

like while updating update manager

did it do complete freeze where u cant move mouse?

[wise reef]

yes

It also corrupts the boot I think

[amber kettle]

and no keys worked?

[wise reef]

Cause I have to boot repair

[amber kettle]

like ctrl_alt_t

[wise reef]

It made a pastebin once

[wise reef]

That too

[amber kettle]

pastebin to ubuntu is SHIT

i can not see , NO ONE CAN EVER SEE

[wise reef]

Acer is shit

[amber kettle]

unless u have an ubuntu account

[wise reef]

this would never be a problem if, as lot said, acer made decent drivers

[amber kettle]

I THINK the boot repair thing has option to use a different website to host the info

sprunge.us i think

[wise reef]

Also, this is probably not gonna work.

the MX libretto

[amber kettle]

give it time

u still hear the drive internally pattering?

[wise reef]

I guess...

[amber kettle]

18 GB is a lot of work for a hard drive

i cant believe u rushed n picked that big number

[wise reef]

it was automatic :/

I forgot HDs were slow

[amber kettle]

yah i figure the live system wont be doing anything with the usb UNTIL the persist files are written on HDD

[wise reef]

It writes at around 30mb/s

transfer files idk

[amber kettle]

my first MX (and i used it live for well over a year) i put something like 6 and 4 or 5 and 5

[wise reef]

that's around 18gb too though

[amber kettle]

but taht was on an SSD, and i think only took a minute to set up

[wise reef]

damn

[amber kettle]

(10 GB)

yeah SSD's are amazingly quick to write and read compared to HDDs

especially the nvme ones which connect direct to PCIe interface.

[wise reef]

I should get one

[amber kettle]

for that laptop it'll be a SATA one

same as what Im used to

[wise reef]

Do you think I could install it myself?

and put it back together

[amber kettle]

u could but u have to see info how to open the back

or under the keyboard. idk.

[wise reef]

It's probably not worth it anymore idk

[amber kettle]

my old laptops both of them have simple door with one screw on back.

[wise reef]

Once I get the money I'll buy a new one, then we can mess around with other distros

[amber kettle]

or, one has one screw door for drive access, the other has like 5 screws flap to access drive and memory and fan.

[wise reef]

I'm a bit young so I'm not currently working, but I'll have an interview next week

[amber kettle]

oh nice hope u find something nice

[wise reef]

third world problems :<

[wise reef]

It's a good job, I'll teach english

which is not what I expected to do but it works

[amber kettle]

24 minutes in. hopefully close now.

[wise reef]

Yes

[amber kettle]

HDD making random patter sounds the drive heads? put ear close.

[wise reef]

It is, I'm hearing them more often

[amber kettle]

ahhhh

[wise reef]

it's a nice sound to hear tbh

[amber kettle]

oh i used to HATE hearing hard drive sounds on old desktops

that patter would PISS ME OFF

[wise reef]

JAHDKADJAHJDJS

[amber kettle]

and make me paranoid that someone was snooping my drive remotely

[wise reef]

It screams sometimes because of its age

like, REALLY loud

and then it annoys me.

[amber kettle]

and because old PC had low RAM, it would HAVE to swap to disk a lot.. and u'd get that super slow behaviour with tons of drive churning noise

terrible memories.