Mint won't install on Acer ES1-533

[wise reef]

I've been trying for the last few days to boot Linux Mint, I tried Cinnammon, Mate, and XFCE.
I've had some success with LMDE 6, but I'm not sure what it, so I'd rather have a normal version(?)
My notebook is a ES1-533, I don't understand much of anything so I'll put images of where it gets stuck and other attempts at booting it (some errors too)

[acoustic shard]

it's an Acer laptop right?

[wise reef]

Yes

[acoustic shard]

guess who has the exact same janky model

[wise reef]

You?

wait you do???

[acoustic shard]

you can try all the things but it won't work

it is not possible (at least to my knowledge) to boot mint/Ubuntu/Debian off this laptop. you have to use arch or fedora

[wise reef]

Shit

So I'm stuck with windows... basically

[acoustic shard]

if you want Linux, go other distro family

[wise reef]

I did manage to boot lmde 6

[acoustic shard]

wait seriously???

[wise reef]

Yes

[acoustic shard]

I did not try LMDE before

[wise reef]

I thought it could work because it seemed old

Is LMDE 6 good?

[acoustic shard]

if you want LMDE, install it

[wise reef]

are there like, any major differences?

[wise reef]

JUST LIKE MINE EVEN MISSING A KEY!!

[acoustic shard]

why'd that take 10 minutes to send

[wise reef]

I really need a new one 💀

[acoustic shard]

yes. it misses a few features like driver manager, but this laptop only has integrated so it doesn't matter

[wise reef]

if I can get the wifi to work I'll switch to it then

[acoustic shard]

it will come with best drivers ootb

[acoustic shard]

I never tried LMDE but it's surely possible to get it

[wise reef]

it keeped disconnecting

[acoustic shard]

you can just dual-boot for now if you want

so that you have windows as a fail safe

[wise reef]

this thing has dual boot?

[acoustic shard]

if you want, we can try to get it working now

[acoustic shard]

they all do xd

[wise reef]

Sure

[acoustic shard]

fire up your LMDE and run thru the installer until it asks you about partitioning

[wise reef]

I'll just have to flash lmde 6 again

[acoustic shard]

use Ventoy smh

[wise reef]

ventoy?

[acoustic shard]

yes

[wise reef]

what's that?

[acoustic shard]

do you need to use the usb drive for other things like storing your data?

[wise reef]

Nope

I made a backup of everything important

[acoustic shard]

allows for multiple images on one drive

[wise reef]

on an external HD I've had

[wise reef]

That's... useful

I'll be downloading it

[acoustic shard]

just follow the instructions on their website

[wise reef]

Do you know why these acer notebooks cant run mint for the life of them?

[acoustic shard]

for booting LM/ubuntu, not sure honestly, as other distros work fine. maybe just some bug
as for installing, Acer was shit and the firmware on those laptops is really difficult to use, and the regular installer has issues with it

[wise reef]

Well, that makes an awful lot of sense

[wise reef]

I'll put this as solved

because... there's not much of a solution khsjehdj

[acoustic shard]

I mean

did you install LMDE already?

[wise reef]

Yeah I'm just moving the ISO to the usb

did it

[acoustic shard]

that's not the end :3

[wise reef]

BalenaEtcher isnt working :(

[wise reef]

oh, what do I do after?

[acoustic shard]

after install, you just need to run a command to install the bootloader. but it'll be easy

[acoustic shard]

boot it

[wise reef]

what?

[acoustic shard]

like, turn off your pc, spam f12 and select your usb drive

[wise reef]

oh yeah, okok

did it

this is quite pretty

[acoustic shard]

enter

[wise reef]

I changed the language accidently just a sec

to chinese

[acoustic shard]

now I wish I had a spare SSD to install LM on this laptop, so I could give you the exact instructions, but I don't, so I'll write everything from my memory and hope for the best. we'll also use arch-install as it has a few tools I think will make this easier, than having to manually do it all

[wise reef]

alright, thank you so much

[acoustic shard]

normal

[wise reef]

okay here we are

[acoustic shard]

start

[wise reef]

now we wait

[acoustic shard]

then open your installer and go thru

[acoustic shard]

until you have the partitioning screen

[wise reef]

uhmm

[acoustic shard]

uhhh

that is not supposed to happen

[wise reef]

I.. thought so

KSHDKSHSJDH I'll ask the cmd for help

[acoustic shard]

turn off your pc, and at this screen select File checksum here

[wise reef]

alr

[acoustic shard]

sha256

[wise reef]

calculating

3%

40%

90%

done

[acoustic shard]

96963cac1ac2ad4ba38414e618adbcdf64a6faadc33ddf53889fa3dc74d59df4

is okay

try to reboot ig

first normal mode, then grub2 mode

[wise reef]

okay

should I try compatibility mode?

[acoustic shard]

for now no

[wise reef]

okay

we got a logo!

WE GOT A CURSOR!!

YAAAYY

[acoustic shard]

xd

[wise reef]

even the touchpad is working

[acoustic shard]

xd

install LM

[wise reef]

which keyboard is this acer?

[acoustic shard]

whatever your language is

[wise reef]

lmde installatiom screen

[acoustic shard]

yes

[wise reef]

shall I put it in english?

[acoustic shard]

oh it has a different installer. and it's ok I can understand

[acoustic shard]

yes select this

[wise reef]

I'll clean up windows after this

[acoustic shard]

Launch gparted

and select your windows partition (sda4)

[wise reef]

did it

[acoustic shard]

then shrink it how much you want. you'd need at least 60 GB to work ok on mint.

[wise reef]

thats... 600000 in mb?

oh here

I can use the slider xd

[acoustic shard]

you have this much space occupied?

[wise reef]

Yeah

[acoustic shard]

xd

[wise reef]

anyway did it

[acoustic shard]

yes

[acoustic shard]

okay gud

close gparted

[wise reef]

1 operwtion is currently pending, do I continue?

[acoustic shard]

now here, sda5 will appear. choose it and make it mount as /

[acoustic shard]

yes yes

[wise reef]

it did not..

[acoustic shard]

did you write the changes?

hmm?

[wise reef]

im back

I think we had to create a new partition too

would this be right?

oh ok we didnt

just had to apply it I believe

like u said xd

[acoustic shard]

yes

[wise reef]

shit uhh

[acoustic shard]

whatever you do, just make it make a sda5 partition

[wise reef]

ok did it then

applying them

[acoustic shard]

NTFS??

[wise reef]

no?

[acoustic shard]

ext4/btrfs

you need to use a Linux filesystem, not windows :p

[wise reef]

ohh okok

FUCK

[acoustic shard]

what

[wise reef]

i almost formatted einfows to btrfs

[acoustic shard]

💀

[wise reef]

KSHSHWHDJSJ

ok

it's... uhh

I actually formatted it to brfts

[acoustic shard]

bro what

[wise reef]

formatted it back to nfts, hope nothing bad happened

[acoustic shard]

did you apply changes?

[wise reef]

Yes...

[acoustic shard]

with the green ✅

[wise reef]

Accidently

[acoustic shard]

I pray for you

[wise reef]

It shows like it's unused

all 465gbs

☠️

Thank god I have a backup

[acoustic shard]

the ✅ is so that if you fuck something up, you can revert it with a single click

[wise reef]

oh

Well... It's too late for that-

[acoustic shard]

lesson learned, I guess

[wise reef]

Yeah.. I'll fix that later

guess I'll give mint 100gb then

[acoustic shard]

do you want to use windows on this laptop too or just Linux for now?

[wise reef]

Since we're already doing a dual boot, let's do both

but I'll have some stuff on windows in case I need it

[acoustic shard]

in that case, you'd need to reinstall windows now

[wise reef]

Oh

idfk what's going on

[acoustic shard]

it's a mess

[wise reef]

yeah absolutely...

I'll be praying

[acoustic shard]

shut down, power on your pc with the usb unplugged and see if you can access windows

[wise reef]

okay

auto repair

[acoustic shard]

if you can't then, well, you can single boot Linux mint or have to install windows, only then Linux

[acoustic shard]

ye you're cooked

[wise reef]

diagnosting pc

[wise reef]

fuck...

OH WINDOWS SCREEN

it couldnt repair

I can try and continue to windows 10

Well, cant get worse right? I'll try

Yep, guess I'll be switching to linux now

[acoustic shard]

yep

[wise reef]

I can reinstall it

Or try to at least

[acoustic shard]

well, if you want to bother

[wise reef]

I can just try later right?

Yeah its not gonna work, lets just try mint

[acoustic shard]

generally it's recommend to install windows first and Linux 2nd, as windows can force some stuff that'll break Linux

[wise reef]

oh okay

[acoustic shard]

if you don't have any windows-exclusive software, I'd go Linux only

worst case scenario you'll just use a VM

[wise reef]

I don't need any windows only software

[acoustic shard]

fire up LMDE, and go thru the installer

[wise reef]

And I'll need to download an Windows iso somehow

[wise reef]

okay

[amber kettle]

can't believe u formatted ur whole Windows partition over to btrfs when u were supposed to be just working on the 59 GB space.

[wise reef]

I messed up and though I had partitioned it already-

Idk what happened kzhwkfhzkn

[amber kettle]

ALWAYSSSSS READ

[wise reef]

😭😭😭😭

[acoustic shard]

😭

[amber kettle]

that's why gparted has a pending jobs list to be read before clicking on apply

[acoustic shard]

I mean you have a backup so it's nothing lost

[wise reef]

Yeah at least that

my backup lmao

go as normal rightz

?

[acoustic shard]

you can do normal or do custom and make a 512mb efi and rest of space btrfs/ext4

[wise reef]

do I use LVM?

I'll just switch

and hope for the best

[amber kettle]

no

dont use lvm

[wise reef]

thanks

[amber kettle]

or anything complicated

just simple defaults ext4 n auto

[wise reef]

grub on sda?

[acoustic shard]

sda1

[wise reef]

alr installing it

[acoustic shard]

it'll throw you an error about grub, just ignore it and proceed. then DON'T reboot your machine ‼️

[wise reef]

OkayKSHWJDHSJS

My dumbness has reached a new level today

[acoustic shard]

hey at least you'll know to not format your partitions :)

[wise reef]

That's a lesson I'll never forget

And at least it's sunday, so I get the time to fix it

it's gonna take a while

[acoustic shard]

is it HDD or SSD?

[wise reef]

HDD

[acoustic shard]

ah

if you want speed, upgrading to SSD would be r3ally good

everything instantly is 300-400% faster

[wise reef]

I'm a bit scared about opening this up...

But I'll look up that

almost done

I'm so happy that it's at least working 100% this time

[acoustic shard]

tell after it finishes

[wise reef]

its done

[acoustic shard]

okay

[wise reef]

"getting into system"

[acoustic shard]

open your terminal

[wise reef]

how?

[acoustic shard]

ctrl alt T or just search for terminal

[wise reef]

okay, it's almost done actually, I got it confused

[acoustic shard]

ah ok

you can open terminal anyway

and type sudo su

[wise reef]

rn?

okay

[acoustic shard]

it will switch your user to root so you can access root directly

[acoustic shard]

yes

[wise reef]

did it

[acoustic shard]

sudo apt install arch-install-scripts

[wise reef]

uhhh

It froze

[acoustic shard]

the images are not loading for me

[wise reef]

😬

[wise reef]

ok so

waitinf for cache lock: coupd not gst lock

[acoustic shard]

okay

[wise reef]

repeating a lot of times

once I executed sudo apt install

[acoustic shard]

it's ok, I believe you need to let the installation of LMDE finish first

[wise reef]

So i wait?

[acoustic shard]

as it's probably using dpkg

[acoustic shard]

yes

[wise reef]

Okay this might take a while

I cant do anything so..

[amber kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-look-gif-21473360

[wise reef]

how are you?

[acoustic shard]

huh?

[acoustic shard]

currently hot

[wise reef]

Well, I'm cold

but still got cooked so take care ok?

[amber kettle]

what's archinstall scripts have to do with LMDE?

[acoustic shard]

you'll see later

[wise reef]

it's frozen still

should I do something?

[acoustic shard]

the terminal or the installation?

[wise reef]

everything

[acoustic shard]

uhhhhh

[wise reef]

like... all of it

[acoustic shard]

like you can't move your mouse?

[wise reef]

Yeah

[acoustic shard]

I don't think that was in my roadmap

[wise reef]

We're on... unknown territory-

[acoustic shard]

last time I installed arch on this laptop was like half a year ago 😅

[wise reef]

Do I turn it off?

[acoustic shard]

honestly yeah

[amber kettle]

wait

[wise reef]

alr let's pray

[acoustic shard]

wait for stunner, maybe he has something interesting to say

[wise reef]

Did it already-

[amber kettle]

has it been 25 minutes?

[wise reef]

No..?

it shouldnt take that long tho

[amber kettle]

oh hdd takes23 to 25n

[wise reef]

aah

[acoustic shard]

you think we should redo the install and just wait while it's hanged?

[wise reef]

To think that my whole computer is dependent on a usb stick as of now is... interesting

[acoustic shard]

wouldn't be cool if it suddenly broke.

[amber kettle]

check bios

[acoustic shard]

for grub? it didn't get installed - or at least properly

[amber kettle]

make sure sb off

[wise reef]

I'd just laugh and try to find another way

[wise reef]

It's off

[amber kettle]

and do a new partition table

[wise reef]

Let's install it

[amber kettle]

in gparted

[wise reef]

manual partition?

[amber kettle]

if pc is with 8 to 10 yrs old use GPT

[wise reef]

I cant really do that-

My hdd doesnt show there

[acoustic shard]

listen to stunner, if that doesn't work, well, you can try a different distribution like fedora and pray it doesn't crash there or just try to repair the crashed for 2nd time mint

[amber kettle]

start fresh

[wise reef]

I cant open gparted-

[amber kettle]

well if frozen , hard restart

[wise reef]

oh wait let me try something

Ok I can actually

[wise reef]

Okay

it's from 2016 so I should use msdos?

[amber kettle]

no

[wise reef]

gpt?-

[amber kettle]

if u need win11 back it will insist on gpt anyway

[acoustic shard]

it supports gpt

[amber kettle]

see my pic

[wise reef]

I see

[amber kettle]

now disconnect laptop from any internet, and just do auto install to disk

and watch your clock when it starts doing work as in copying files.. should take around the time I said to complete.

[wise reef]

I select sda3 right?

[acoustic shard]

on sda3, select mount as /

[amber kettle]

^^

[wise reef]

this right?

[acoustic shard]

yep

[amber kettle]

yep, then continute

[wise reef]

it asked for an archive system

[acoustic shard]

a what?

[amber kettle]

filesystem format?

[acoustic shard]

por favor

[amber kettle]

make ext4

[wise reef]

oh thanks

[wise reef]

please..

[acoustic shard]

or btrfs

[amber kettle]

it already said ext4 anyway so idk why it asked again

[wise reef]

EFI is not bootable

please edit the partitions flags

[amber kettle]

dude tf

dont tell me u booted in legacy mode

[wise reef]

I didnt.

I did a normal boot

[acoustic shard]

wait are you doing automatic or custom partitions?

[amber kettle]

u chose UEFI USB device right?

[wise reef]

custom

[amber kettle]

wtf?! i said do auto.. why u make it hard?

[wise reef]

What

I asked if it was the right option

[amber kettle]

doesnt lmde just have an erase disk and install mint option?

[acoustic shard]

it does, I believe

[wise reef]

oh yeah it does

[amber kettle]

goshhh

[wise reef]

Ok its installing now

[acoustic shard]

😭

[wise reef]

😭KSHWMSJKS

I Can't thank you guys enough, honestly

[acoustic shard]

it's a pleasure, most of the time

I helped one guy here install arch on this exact model, wish I knew he could just boot LMDE/Debian lmao

he gave up and threw out the laptop

[wise reef]

Oh, the more you learn lol

Arch sounds really hard

[acoustic shard]

I mean, installing the base system is not that difficult. but configuring everything and making it work is

[wise reef]

Absolutely, is fedora easier?

[acoustic shard]

I would argue that installing arch is easier than Linux mint

as I had far less issues with it, and after installing mint, you also have to disable snaps, etc

[wise reef]

Well.. I'll probably know for myself someday

[acoustic shard]

ye, it's just a graphical installer

[wise reef]

I want to learn more about linux and stuff

The only app I use that's exclusive to windows is notepad++ apparently, I use it for writing texts and noting stuff down

There's lots of text editors out there though

Didnt knew it was exclusive

[acoustic shard]

the text editor mint comes with is a bit more basic than notepad++ but still has quite a few features

tabs, can open virtually any file extension, has colors in programming languages

the only major thing it's lacking is I believe extensions

[wise reef]

I'll get along with it fine then

does it save when closed and has auto break?

:3

oh

[acoustic shard]

I don't know what that means but probably

[wise reef]

It froze again

So... we wait 30 minutes

[amber kettle]

25 to 35 minutes from this point

[wise reef]

the clock is wrong, but I can fix it later

[acoustic shard]

did it hang at the same point last time?

[amber kettle]

just go by the Discord timestamps.

[wise reef]

I probably forgot to put the right timezone

[amber kettle]

15 minutes deep so far.

[acoustic shard]

honestly it can be just the fault of installer, and it'll never finish, no matter how many times you try

but we'll see

[wise reef]

Dont say that

I'll cry

[acoustic shard]

I mean the installer is kinda bad

[wise reef]

KSHWKDJZJWHDJSJSKSK STOP

[acoustic shard]

not your fault

it can't get any worse really

[wise reef]

I mean..

its a bit my fault

[amber kettle]

if u have to put Windows back, go to another working computer somewhere, download the Windows 10 creator tool, it will then be run (exe file) and give option to get an ISO.. save the ISO, and copy to ventoy disk

or Windows 11, has ISO for direct download, no creator tool exe needed

[acoustic shard]

what your reaction should be rn

[amber kettle]

lol

[acoustic shard]

or just download the image from Microsoft and place it on Ventoy

[wise reef]

This is me

[wise reef]

Thank you

I'll note it down

[amber kettle]

from what I heard Lot, MS download site does NOT offer a direct download of the Win10 iso

[acoustic shard]

It does

[amber kettle]

it has to be gotten thru the media creation tool program

[acoustic shard]

trust me

[amber kettle]

which is an exe

then the media creation tool offers either :

• make a usb with Win 10
• save Win 10 ISO file

[acoustic shard]

search "windows 10 download" and it's available as an image from Microsoft website

[amber kettle]

k

[wise reef]

KSHAHAHHAHA

like, the logo?

[amber kettle]

i wonder if Haiku would work on this Acer

[wise reef]

If mint works, I can test it

[acoustic shard]

if it doesn't work for now, force shutdown and boot Ventoy again

[amber kettle]

it's another OS, non-linux

[wise reef]

Like temple os?

[amber kettle]

ya but not retarted

[wise reef]

Well

[acoustic shard]

don't call templeos that
it's great

[wise reef]

Im waiting any signal of life

[amber kettle]

idk I've seen little bits of the UI. looks horrible

worse than Windows 2

[wise reef]

but it was made by one person

[acoustic shard]

you underappreciated what's in the core, and that's what matters

[acoustic shard]

might be time to pull the plug

[wise reef]

Ok so I might be alucinating

[amber kettle]

28 minutes in

[wise reef]

but I think I saw something

[amber kettle]

give a few more

[acoustic shard]

the installer is really really confused now probably

[amber kettle]

nah

[wise reef]

I will

[amber kettle]

I only get really concerned past the 45 minute mark

[wise reef]

It can take up to an hour to install windows

so I'll not worry... yet

[acoustic shard]

I'll have to go in like 30 minutes

[wise reef]

It's fine, if it works I can try and do stuff by myself

[amber kettle]

does your usb stick have a light?

[wise reef]

watch some videos

[wise reef]

no

[amber kettle]

and does your computer have a drive light on the front panel or side?

[wise reef]

Not really, no

[amber kettle]

*side on a laptop, ofc)

[wise reef]

I can hear the Hd spinning tho

[amber kettle]

great

[acoustic shard]

what needs to be done now is to, inside the chroot, verify the kernel is installed, install grub-efi efibootmgr, verify fstab, mount all fstab partitions and install grub

[wise reef]

Language of gods

[acoustic shard]

it's really simple

[wise reef]

But okay, once this boots

I'll do that

[acoustic shard]

I'll guide you thru, no worriesx

[wise reef]

I'll get on my knees and pray

[acoustic shard]

you should've done that before partitioning your drive with windows intact

[wise reef]

It was an accident!

But yeah, hope god hears me now

[amber kettle]

by the way. if u absolutely cant install ON the hard drive, then get MX Linux from another computer, save the ISO to ventoy, then boot it, u can choose persistent mode from the Advanced menu of MX live preboot screen and save to hard drive persistent root/home

[wise reef]

I'll... look into that if this doesnt work out

I might be just indeed allucinating

[acoustic shard]

@wise reef it's been long enough I think

[wise reef]

No... Not yet

[acoustic shard]

is your HDD still running?

[wise reef]

Well, I think it is

[acoustic shard]

btw is your fan so extremely loud too?

[wise reef]

something is spinning, might be the fan might be the hdd

[wise reef]

Not really, its quiet

[acoustic shard]

weird. my model was so incredibly loud that I stopped using it lol

[wise reef]

Not quiet quiet, but not that loud

[wise reef]

I've had one like that

It was like a jet engine

[acoustic shard]

in 5 mins, we kill it

[wise reef]

give it 6

[acoustic shard]

trust me

[wise reef]

so it ends at 15:20

[acoustic shard]

Ok

20:20

[wise reef]

yep

there's nothing we can do...

[acoustic shard]

installing Linux on Acer aspire es-1 😔

[wise reef]

The struggle itself toward the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.

And honestly, I've never had more fun with my computer than now, fighting against the machine

yeaaah..

We'll pull the cord soon

[acoustic shard]

write a complaint letter to Acer and tell them to properly make firmware

[wise reef]

Not a bad idea

How much would it cost to sent them a letter?

[acoustic shard]

they wouldn't read it anyway xd

[wise reef]

Tbh yeah

Even duolingo doesnt listen to me, I got two free trials

[acoustic shard]

😭

[wise reef]

Oh it's...

[acoustic shard]

ok shut it

[wise reef]

time...

Shit okay, nothing we can do?

No shortcut to try? nothing?

[acoustic shard]

not really, it's just hanged itself

[wise reef]

Okay then

I'll turn it off

[amber kettle]

try mx

[acoustic shard]

no

[wise reef]

what's mx

[amber kettle]

the thing i said

[acoustic shard]

ye. and then boot LMDE again, get to me when you do

[wise reef]

okay

[amber kettle]

i just got an oddball idea

what if install in legacy mode?

[wise reef]

We can try

or even grub2 mode

[acoustic shard]

won't work mate. I tried everything

[wise reef]

I'll try and do this first then

oh okay

[acoustic shard]

booted already?

[amber kettle]

ud need to enable csm

[wise reef]

boot as normal then

[wise reef]

not yet

now did

[acoustic shard]

open terminal

sudo su

apt install arch-install-scripts

[wise reef]

Do I activate wifi?

connect

[acoustic shard]

yes, else you won't be able to download the packages

[amber kettle]

gotta refresh lists first

apt update

[acoustic shard]

oh

[wise reef]

so

[amber kettle]

switch user

[wise reef]

apt update
sudo su
apt install arch-install-scripts

[amber kettle]

correct

no

[wise reef]

oh

[amber kettle]

first su

[acoustic shard]

no

yes

[wise reef]

damn

I did apt update first

[acoustic shard]

it doesn't matter

[wise reef]

okok

[acoustic shard]

but it should probably say you don't have permissions

[wise reef]

it didnt lol

[acoustic shard]

oh

[wise reef]

anyway mint@mint

[acoustic shard]

just

did you install arch scripts?

[wise reef]

i will nos

now

[amber kettle]

superuser prompt will show a # sign in it

[wise reef]

did it

[acoustic shard]

now type lsblk and show what it says

[acoustic shard]

mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot

I suppose sda2 is swap?

[wise reef]

probably

[acoustic shard]

run the above commands now

[wise reef]

must be superuser

to use mount

[acoustic shard]

you didn't sudo su did you

[wise reef]

i did

[acoustic shard]

bro what

[wise reef]

did it again

NOW it might work

[acoustic shard]

okay show your terminal windows plz

cause this is an abdomination

[amber kettle]

# must be in prompt

[acoustic shard]

now it's ok

retype the commands

[wise reef]

permission denied

[acoustic shard]

you didn't type mount

[wise reef]

ah damn

[acoustic shard]

😭

[wise reef]

did it

[acoustic shard]

show

[wise reef]

vfat

[acoustic shard]

I messed up the command, sorry

[wise reef]

Oh it's fine

[acoustic shard]

type just
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi

[wise reef]

done

[acoustic shard]

did sat anything?

[wise reef]

not yet

[acoustic shard]

ok it's gud

now
arch-chroot /mnt

[wise reef]

done

[acoustic shard]

What'd it say?

[wise reef]

nothing

[acoustic shard]

show the terminal please

I don't trust you enough

[wise reef]

That's fair

[acoustic shard]

okay it's good

from now on, you are inside your installed system.

sudo apt install grub-efi linux-generic efibootmgr

[wise reef]

so..

[wise reef]

I do one at a time

[acoustic shard]

all

it installs grub, a tool to manage your uefi and the kernel

[wise reef]

like this?

Send?

[acoustic shard]

yes

[wise reef]

unable to locate package linux-generic

[acoustic shard]

oh uhmm

[acoustic shard]

so we will ignore it and trust that the installer done it's job

run sudo apt update

and then sudo apt install efibootmgr grub-efi

we don't need the kernel

[wise reef]

okay

I think I might have done something?

I'll reexecute

ok

[acoustic shard]

you didn't type it correctly bro

[wise reef]

oh

NOW IT WORKED

thank

froze

[acoustic shard]

uh did it seriously

[wise reef]

yeah..

[acoustic shard]

can't you move your mouse

[wise reef]

I dont even see it

to be honest

[acoustic shard]

💀

[wise reef]

I hate acer

[amber kettle]

yeah dashes, spaces, capital/non-capital letters, forward slashes, backslashes, and double-quotes are all very important to get exact in linux command line

[acoustic shard]

honestly, we'll try again because I have faith

[wise reef]

boot it again?

[acoustic shard]

force shutdown, reboot into LMDE

[wise reef]

yessir

[acoustic shard]

sudo su
mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi

[acoustic shard]

and then don't run any apt install commands

sorry for making you go thru all this

[wise reef]

Nah it's okay

It could've been worse

like, I could have deleted the bios

[wise reef]

Then it would be truly joever

[acoustic shard]

what is joe

[wise reef]

joe mama

we in

war flashes by my eyes like the bullet that killed my friend

[wise reef]

did it

[acoustic shard]

can't see the image

but it shouldn't output anything

[wise reef]

uep

[acoustic shard]

so now arch-chroot /mnt

[wise reef]

arch-chroot not found

but can be installed

with apt install arch-install-scripts

I'll install it

[acoustic shard]

oh yeah, forgot about it

[wise reef]

I'm learning 🤓

[acoustic shard]

then after arch chroot, run
mount /dev/sda1 /boot/efi

[wise reef]

done

already mounted

[acoustic shard]

oh

lsblk

[wise reef]

dmesg(1) may have more info after failed mount system call

[acoustic shard]

sudo grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --boot-directory=/boot --no-nvram

[acoustic shard]

you didn't add a space between install and --

there are spaces everywhere

between every --

[wise reef]

ok it's installing

no error reported

So far so good

[acoustic shard]

exit

and then reboot your system and remove the usb drive

[amber kettle]

-- is short for "add this parameter:"

[wise reef]

now I reboot, right?

[acoustic shard]

yes yes yes

[wise reef]

ookay

doing it

[acoustic shard]

moment of thruth

[wise reef]

imma cry if it works

[acoustic shard]

me too

if it doesn't then

[amber kettle]

may well

[wise reef]

no bootable device

[amber kettle]

sometimes locked nvram is a serious misery

[acoustic shard]

go to bios and see if it added an entry in the boot tab

[amber kettle]

go to bios

[acoustic shard]

it should say "ubuntu"

[wise reef]

ok

[wise reef]

no

[acoustic shard]

show please

[wise reef]

I believe we forgot to do something

maybe an extra exit

it said that there was a process running

[acoustic shard]

move HDD wdc to the top

[wise reef]

did it

[amber kettle]

here? seemed done

[wise reef]

well, I believe you

[amber kettle]

ok so hard drive is now at top. save n exit BIOS and allow to reboot

[wise reef]

doing it

no bootable device

[acoustic shard]

fucking hell

[amber kettle]

I wasn't too faithful in it. sometimes re-adding grub loader is fine, when the installation freezes at 99%

but in this case, it seems to stall at 70%

[wise reef]

Hmm..

so... this is it?

[amber kettle]

do u have another pc or smartphone with USB OTG adapter?

[acoustic shard]

we can try to boot off the install media into your installed system

[wise reef]

We can try that

[wise reef]

Yeah I do

[acoustic shard]

I feel like we missed some important step, as like I said it's been half a year since I last done this

[wise reef]

For some reason I feel like that too, even though I don't understand much of anything

[amber kettle]

i would boot live, use the file manager to explore the supposedly installed system's file structure thoroughly

[wise reef]

It doesn't make sense that it just refuses to install after getting so far

[acoustic shard]

imho boot the system and then just see

[amber kettle]

including exploring the EFI partition and precisely what exists in it

[wise reef]

Wtf

it has a password????

[acoustic shard]

it's blank I think

[amber kettle]

that's normal

[wise reef]

oh, yeah

there's some stuff on it

[amber kettle]

maximize the file manager

then go to the bottom left corner of window

then click "tree view"

and explore every folder

[wise reef]

what I'm looking for?

[amber kettle]

make sure every folder like /bin /etc especially has stuff in it

for comparison, open a second file manager

then click "filesystem" on left

that will show the live ram-drive file system and what it's supposed to look like

then u compare back n forth

[acoustic shard]

after what stunner said, go to /boot and show contents

[amber kettle]

yeah put the right window into tree view also

[wise reef]

oh that helps

[amber kettle]

then u can just click on down the left side thru all the folders n subfolders

[wise reef]

I'll take all pictures and I'll be back soon

[amber kettle]

and this. since it's important to boot.

[wise reef]

I'll give me su

[acoustic shard]

ok, seems like grub-install didn't write the bootloader correctly, run all of these commands. AND PLEASE TYPE EACH OF THEM CORRECTLY
cd /boot/efi/EFI cp -R ubuntu/* BOOT/ cd BOOT cp grubx64.efi bootx64.

[wise reef]

separately?

[acoustic shard]

yes

wait

[wise reef]

do I give me su first?

[acoustic shard]

wait I messed up the commands

sudo su
mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi

as I forgot you are in the live session

[wise reef]

did it

[wise reef]

now these?

[acoustic shard]

chroot /mnt

[acoustic shard]

wait

[wise reef]

done

[wise reef]

.

[acoustic shard]

sudo update-grub

[acoustic shard]

oh wait

exit

then apt install arch-install-scripts and arch-chroot /mnt

I can't deal with regular chroot

[wise reef]

arch is better?

[acoustic shard]

arch-chroot yes

[wise reef]

did it

[acoustic shard]

ok show the terminal

[acoustic shard]

okay nice, update-grub

[amber kettle]

would ubuntu loader have a part in this, since it's lmde?

[wise reef]

sudo update-grub?

[acoustic shard]

uhhh, I might've missed that detail.

[acoustic shard]

yes

[wise reef]

error

[acoustic shard]

and then sudo ls /boot/efi/

[acoustic shard]

what does it say

[wise reef]

cannot find a grub drive

mkdir /var/lock/dmraid

[acoustic shard]

fuck it

wait

lsblk

[wise reef]

linux system bootloader kätze?

[acoustic shard]

okay let's pretend update grub didn't throw an error

sudo ls /boot/efi/

[wise reef]

it returned EFI

[acoustic shard]

sudo ls /boot/efi/EFI

[amber kettle]

in a colur right?

[wise reef]

white

normal text

[amber kettle]

thought folders are blue

[wise reef]

debian

[acoustic shard]

ls /boot/efi//EFI/debian

[amber kettle]

getting warm

[wise reef]

//?

[acoustic shard]

there is probably a better way to ls them but I can't think

[acoustic shard]

sorry, /

[amber kettle]

one slash

[wise reef]

okay so, we're in

getting warmer

[acoustic shard]

cd /boot/efi/EFI cp -R debian/* BOOT/ cd BOOT cp grubx64.efi bootx64.efi

I think it should be correct now

[wise reef]

separately?

[acoustic shard]

yes

[amber kettle]

one line at a time carefully

[amber kettle]

copying over from live system the critical things over to the root system

[wise reef]

no boot

[acoustic shard]

I may have messed it up

[acoustic shard]

we're in chroot

[wise reef]

oh, take your time

It's mostly uncharted territory anyway

[amber kettle]

I think boot is lowercase folder

[wise reef]

Installing LMDE 6 on an Acer ES1-533 is quite an achievemnt

[acoustic shard]

time to fire up a Linux mint vm

[wise reef]

I'll try

nope

[amber kettle]

may have needed a preceding / in front of BOOT

or a preceeding / and lowercase letters @acoustic shard

if I'm following this right at all

[wise reef]

cp -R debian/* /boot/

?

[acoustic shard]

there is BOOT for me

[amber kettle]

ah

gotta make it then

[acoustic shard]

@wise reef open your file explorer and navigate to /mnt/boot/efi/EFI

[acoustic shard]

welp

[wise reef]

Yep doesn't exist

[acoustic shard]

I guess it's not a thing for Debian?

[amber kettle]

or the installer had issue creating the folder

[wise reef]

we can try and run the installer again

[amber kettle]

unless ur peering into the live structure atm,

just boot repair app rn

😋

it may fix what needs to be done

[wise reef]

this?

honestly, if we manage to make it work I might have to write a paper on it

[amber kettle]

oh one thing u wanna verify first

[wise reef]

Yes?

[amber kettle]

and that is how much space used on the internal drive

[acoustic shard]

see what stunner says, if no work
cp /boot/efi/EFI/debian grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/debian/bootx64.efi cp /boot/efi/EFI/debian/grubx64.efi /boot

[amber kettle]

a properly-filled in install, needs to occupy about 7 GB

[wise reef]

How?

[amber kettle]

7 to 10-ish

click the device on left side

er right-click, and do properties

and it should count up how many bytes used up

[wise reef]

okay

it's at 5.2GB and increasing very slowly

[acoustic shard]

I go bathe

[wise reef]

Oki, have a nice bath!!

[amber kettle]

let it count up

[wise reef]

5.4

5.5

[amber kettle]

ok. did it stop?

[wise reef]

no

[amber kettle]

let it count

[wise reef]

okay

[amber kettle]

probably should have checked this before changing root but shrugs

if ur bored, download mx linux ISO on other computer

[wise reef]

stopped at 6.9GB

nice

it needs 70mb to reach 7GB

so it's either 90%~ the way there or 70%~

now I do what

boot repair?

[amber kettle]

ahhh

wait, did it stop counting?

[wise reef]

yes

for more than a minute

or three

[amber kettle]

so try the commands lot said

[wise reef]

oka

[amber kettle]

but u must remember to switch into root user mode

i think su - lets u do that

[wise reef]

root@mint:~#?

[amber kettle]

these 2 commands here:

yeah if ur in that now, ur good

[wise reef]

cp /boot/efi/EFI/debian grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/debian/bootx64.efi

cp /boot/efi/EFI/debian/grubx64.efi /boot

[amber kettle]

one at time, yes

[amber kettle]

although it seems like a typo

[wise reef]

It didn't work so.. maybe

/boot/efi/EFI/debian/bootx64.efi doesn't exist

[amber kettle]

let me correct it

cp /boot/efi/EFI/debian/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/debian/bootx64.efi

i believe he missed one slash in the first pathway

wait

[wise reef]

yes?

[amber kettle]

there we go

now I corrected it above

[wise reef]

ok it worked

now the other one

[amber kettle]

i think what that was since cp (copy) can be used to rename things

so u just renamed grubx64.efi into bootx64.efi

do the second one now

[wise reef]

I made a typo and tried to ctrl z it

[amber kettle]

yep. no output means it did it.

[wise reef]

oh great

[acoustic shard]

now reboot

[amber kettle]

now type exit

[wise reef]

now I reboot

power button

[acoustic shard]

did you guys try boot-repair already?

[wise reef]

not really

[wise reef]

or shutdown?

[acoustic shard]

reboot and remove usb drive

[wise reef]

okay

turned it on and removed it

now we wait

no bootable device

[acoustic shard]

show bios

[wise reef]

okay

should I disable something?

[acoustic shard]

ehh

idk

[wise reef]

I'll try boot repair ig

[amber kettle]

u see here boot mode? change it to legacy

ok try boot repair first before changing to legacy

[wise reef]

I cant change it

[acoustic shard]

I found this ancient forum for Ubuntu 14.04. maybe we will create the BOOT directory ourselves? lmao

[wise reef]

bruh

honestly