Linux mint booting back out to login menu | Linux Mint Community🍵 | Page 1

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 1:52 PM

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I just installed the OS and every time i attempt to log in, I keep getting booted back out onto the login menu

Hardware:
Threadripper 1950X
Aorus Xtreme X399 Motherboard
GIGABYTE Radeon RX 7800 XT
250GB NVMe SSD - Boot drive, btrfs, 512MB partition for EFI boot partition
2TB NVMe SSD - /home/ (encrypted, btrfs)
2x 2TB NVMe SSD - Merged into single 4TB drive using software with btrfs

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:07 PM

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lime tangle I just installed the OS and every time i attempt to log in, I keep getting boote...

which OS you installed, ah the linux mint, just read the title lol

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:07 PM

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lime tangle I just installed the OS and every time i attempt to log in, I keep getting boote...

what DE you are using
cinnamon, xfce?

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do you know how to change to the Console directly?

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:08 PM

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Yes, Linux mint 22 cinnamon, it boots up fine however upon entering password screen goes blank as if correct password and booted out to login

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:08 PM

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use the
ctrl + alt + fX
X can be 1 2 3 4 5 6

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:09 PM

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cloud horizon do you know how to change to the Console directly?

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no i dont think so unless its going into root thru grub

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:09 PM

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to enter the console, so you log into your account and we can make directly changes to it

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:09 PM

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ah

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what do i do next?

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:11 PM

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lime tangle what do i do next?

entered your account?

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:11 PM

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yes

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:11 PM

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type
sudo systemctl status lightdm
it appears as running, dead or what

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:11 PM

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aight

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:12 PM

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after entering the console you will enter with your account
nickname + password
otherwise you can have root access directly typing root into the username field

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:14 PM

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alright then

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:14 PM

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@lime tangle what happened

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lightdm is a service that takes care of the login session and choose the DE if you have alternatives

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if it has problems you will be reloading it, I had problems with sddm and changed to lightdm, if the service itself has problems we can reload to see if it works or we can simply change to another service

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:17 PM

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My power went out before i did the command 😢

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But if something it should just be the power supply going bonkers n it should come back on in a little bit

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:18 PM

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cloud horizon if it has problems you will be reloading it, I had problems with sddm and change...

But good to know about this to be fair

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:21 PM

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lime tangle But good to know about this to be fair

enter the console and type
sudo apt install --fix-broken
if some dependency is missing it will install, otherwise you can install another login manager
sudo apt install sddm
after installing it you will have to change
sudo systemctl disable lightdm
after that dont reboot before doing this command:
sudo systemctl enable sddm

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after enabling sddm you can reboot the pc typing reboot in the console

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:24 PM

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cloud horizon type `sudo systemctl status lightdm` it appears as running, dead or what

So after power coming back on n trying the command i got this

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cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:27 PM

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lime tangle So after power coming back on n trying the command i got this

sudo apt install --fix-broken

try it now

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:28 PM

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done, tho it only said 0 to upgrade, install or remove and 28 not to upgrade

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_> the worse part is that this is a fresh install

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with internet being fed thru my laptop bc it has no wifi set yet xP

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:29 PM

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lime tangle >_> the worse part is that this is a fresh install

try systemctl reload ligthdm

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:30 PM

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failed to reload as its not applicable

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:30 PM

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sudo apt install sddm

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@lime tangle let's change it then install sddm

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:31 PM

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aight

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noe it porpol

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do i just select sddm n just hit ok?

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:32 PM

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you install it

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:32 PM

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ye

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:32 PM

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sudo apt install sddm -y

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after installing you say here

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:32 PM

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cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:33 PM

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gdm

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change to gdm

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basically move from lightdm to the one below it

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idk if it is gdm or sddm there

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:33 PM

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sddm

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:33 PM

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change to sddm

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key arrow down and enter

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:34 PM

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did it n it ran a bunch of install stuff n then i did the reload command again

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cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:34 PM

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now do
sudo systemctl disable lightdm

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and after that

sudo systemctl enable sddm

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:35 PM

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did both

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:35 PM

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it ran successfully?

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@lime tangle

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:36 PM

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Looks like it did

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:37 PM

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@edgy quiver help here bro

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:37 PM

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lime tangle

type
sudo systemctl status sddm

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if it appears enabled it is ok

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:38 PM

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all it says is enabled, no errors

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:38 PM

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sudo systemctl status lightdm

does it appear disabled?

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:39 PM

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it says enabled n after double checking where i should look on sddm it says disabled

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:40 PM

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lime tangle it says enabled n after double checking where i should look on sddm it says disa...

wym, sddm disabled and lightdm enabled?

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:40 PM

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cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:40 PM

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reboot then

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just need to type reboot

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:41 PM

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yep

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:41 PM

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try login and say if it works

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:42 PM

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i think sddm kicked in

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from reboot

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:43 PM

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if it doesnt work then the step is to come back to lightdm and look for another alternative

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:43 PM

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yea, it does the same ;-;

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:44 PM

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enter the console

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log to the account and let's try something different

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do the
sudo systemctl disable sddm
then
sudo systemctl enable lightdm

and after that do
sudo apt install lightdm-gtk-greeter lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings -y

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if the screen appears you just select lightdm and click enter again

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:45 PM

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the fact that i cant copy n paste that last one is gonna be fun

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:47 PM

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it installed something?

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those two are modules of lightdm that allow login

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:47 PM

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yes it installed

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:47 PM

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then it was those packages that were missing

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try rebooting and entering in your account

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just type reboot in the command line

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:48 PM

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ig i caught a bug xD

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:48 PM

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tell me if it works now

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:48 PM

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just bc of a new build

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:49 PM

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if it works you can delete the sddm previously installed

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sudo apt purge sddm

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I was getting some problems with lightdm till I installed those two packages I sent you the name to install, so it worked for me at least

I hope it works for you lol

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:51 PM

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the module doesnt wanna enable anymore for some reason

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:52 PM

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lime tangle the module doesnt wanna enable anymore for some reason

you did the systemctl enable lightdm after disabling the sddm?

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:53 PM

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cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:53 PM

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they cant be enabled together, so you have to disable one before enabling the other

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:53 PM

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cloud horizon you did the systemctl enable lightdm after disabling the sddm?

This is what it shows after rebooting it

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They both have the line Active: inactive (dead)

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:54 PM

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sudo systemctl stop sddm

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disable the sddm, purge this package with
sudo apt purge sddm, then enable and start the lightdm

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they wont interfere if the sddm doesnt exists anymore

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:56 PM

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did it, got log in, tried to log in n same issue

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:56 PM

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try install the package

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sudo apt install xdg-user-dirs-gtk xorg -y

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:57 PM

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both at newest versions

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:58 PM

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it is the cinnamon version?

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:58 PM

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yes

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want the neofetch again?

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:58 PM

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sudo apt install lightdm

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let's see if it at least exists

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:58 PM

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does at newest version

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:59 PM

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sudo apt-get --reinstall install lightdm

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:59 PM

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could it be by chance a driver issue or encrypted home directory?

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:59 PM

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lime tangle could it be by chance a driver issue or encrypted home directory?

you encrypted the home directory?

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 4:59 PM

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yes

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 4:59 PM

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it doesnt affect anything because it decrypt with the login password

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:00 PM

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ah, fairs bc i did mention it at the start just incase

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it reinstalled btw

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and issue somehow persists...

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:03 PM

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did you stop and purge the sddm?

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:03 PM

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yes

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:03 PM

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strange, the two modules are installed and lightdm was reinstalled

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:03 PM

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sddm service could not be found when i ran systemctl status sddm

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:04 PM

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whenyou set the password it acts like it is doing the login but goes back to the login page, right?

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:04 PM

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yes

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:04 PM

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in the right above part of the login page

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there are some icons

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try clicking it, there will be probably a choice between cinnamon wayland and cinnamon X11

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:05 PM

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cloud horizon whenyou set the password it acts like it is doing the login but goes back to the...

aight

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so which do i click on, default, software rendering or wayland

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:05 PM

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change to x11

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cinnamon (X11)

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:06 PM

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its on default which i assume is x11

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:06 PM

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it is the one that was selected when you got the issue?

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try the wayland to change

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:07 PM

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same result

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:08 PM

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and the software rendering option

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:08 PM

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same, could it be bc the OS is trying to use a gpu and the only one there is the radeon without any drivers?

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n by same i mean same result

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:09 PM

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I am searching about it, one moment

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@lime tangle

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:10 PM

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👍

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:11 PM

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go to the console again and log in

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:11 PM

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aight

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done

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:11 PM

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sudo apt install mdm

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:12 PM

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done

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nothing popped up this time

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:12 PM

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sudo dpkg-reconfigure mdm

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:13 PM

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done, it gave no outputs on console

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:13 PM

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now go back to the login, change to cinnamon default and try to login

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:14 PM

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same stuff

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at this rate we may as well go on a silent stream n just let you see as well xD

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:15 PM

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I went to the linux mint official forum and someone solved the loop like that

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:16 PM

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question, is there a chance that the OS is trying to use the gpu to load the desktop but failing bc there arent any drivers?

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mainly since the cpu that im using(threadripper 1950x) doesnt have one

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:18 PM

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lime tangle question, is there a chance that the OS is trying to use the gpu to load the des...

every cpu has integrated graphics

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and mint comes with lots of drivers built in

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:19 PM

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:)

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:19 PM

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sincerely I dont know how to solve your problem, we tried changing the login service and it didnt work

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:19 PM

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lime tangle

sudo dpkg-reconfigure mdm

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it gave permission denied?

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:19 PM

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nope

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cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:20 PM

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@quartz urchin help this guy
the only solution I see is him changing to fedora

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idk what he can do more other than what I already said to him

quartz urchin Jul 28, 2024, 5:21 PM

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Oh, I am not very experienced in most things, hopefully some experienced peeps can, kernel_panic

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:22 PM

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welcome lokait, we tried sddm, running thru all 3 desktop types n still the same issue as above

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at the very top

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:27 PM

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@lime tangletbh I dont know what you can do more

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:28 PM

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well, there is the fact that we could try installing drivers for the gpu?

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:28 PM

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sudo systemctl stop lightdm

startx

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:29 PM

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Oop, it just gave a timeout error

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nvm, running it in sudo made it start

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cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:32 PM

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did you install it without errors?

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:32 PM

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was i supposed to install startx?

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:32 PM

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there is an automatic repair somewhere in the apps

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:32 PM

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i just ran it as a command

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:32 PM

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try using it

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@lime tangle when you installed the linux mint, the partitions were mount automatically?

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:35 PM

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after install? bc during install they were brand new

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so no partitions on any of them

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:39 PM

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lime tangle after install? bc during install they were brand new

no bro

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when you were in the gui installation, you chose automatic mount the partitions or you manually did it

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:40 PM

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manual

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:40 PM

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what you created there, what was your choice

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:40 PM

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512mb boot

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34gb swap, rest mounted under /
that would be the 250GB drive

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2TB drive would be mounted under /home/

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/ and /home/ are formatted into btrfs

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:41 PM

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you have a new computer with UEFI or an old that work under bios

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:42 PM

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new pc that i put together last night

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:42 PM

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lime tangle 2TB drive would be mounted under /home/

you mounted a separated home

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hm

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:42 PM

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yea, is that an issue or..?

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:43 PM

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nothing wrong with that

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:43 PM

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i think i figured out why it wasnt loading in unless i ran sudo startx

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the 2tb nvme wasnt mounting itself

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so might be the issue

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nope, wasnt it

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 5:47 PM

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lime tangle so might be the issue

probably

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if the login was trying to access the home it didnt exist yet

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:49 PM

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i will cry if it was

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bc it does have the automount option enabled

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 5:50 PM

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lime tangle Yes, Linux mint 22 cinnamon, it boots up fine however upon entering password scr...

do you see a small dot on the rectangle on which you login?

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click on it and then enter cinnamon using compatibility mode
upgrade your kernel and reboot 👍

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its just the lts kernel being terrible with select hardware like always

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this is the most probable cause. i have seen this issue quite a few times

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:54 PM

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it might also be bc i have the /home directory in an alternative drive that refuses to automount for some reason

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bc if i sudo startx it starts fine, and whenever i open console from login it sets the starting directory as /
instead of /home/user

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 5:56 PM

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lime tangle it might also be bc i have the /home directory in an alternative drive that refu...

weirdchamp

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I mean, if your home drive isnt mounted then the system obviously wont be able to start it and send you to the desktop

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What you can do is make the drive auto mount at start

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If you don't know how to do that then feel free to ping me

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:57 PM

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@quasi wigeon

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 5:58 PM

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Hi

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 5:58 PM

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lime tangle <@895699982265511976>

which DE are you on?

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Cinnamon/Mate or XFCE?

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 5:59 PM

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i have no clue bc this is the config on it and it doesnt wanna automount on login entry

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LM22 Cinnamon

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quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:00 PM

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lime tangle bc if i sudo startx it starts fine, and whenever i open console from login it se...

so just sudo startx to get to the desktop
then open the terminal and install gparted sudo apt install gparted

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well, i dont trust the disks app so lets just install gparted

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:01 PM

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lime tangle

check your mount point in this

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:01 PM

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I was wondering where my raid went, I'll mount it later :3

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quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:01 PM

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your mount point is in /home

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:02 PM

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yes

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:02 PM

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lime tangle I was wondering where my raid went, I'll mount it later :3

you have to mount it to /media or /mnt

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basically

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MOUNT IT TO /mnt @lime tangle

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That is the default mount point of all your drives on linux

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:04 PM

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lime tangle

by mounting it to /home you are basically mounting your drive to itself which is why your drive isnt getting mounted

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:04 PM

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Do i just mount it using disks?

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:04 PM

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lime tangle Do i just mount it using disks?

Sure

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:05 PM

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Done

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:05 PM

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using disks is the gui /automatic way, if that doesnt work then we will manually add your drive to the list of mount points

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:05 PM

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lime tangle Done

alright, try rebooting

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:05 PM

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then try logging in?

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:06 PM

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lime tangle then try logging in?

yup

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:07 PM

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same result as the original issue

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sudo startx?

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:07 PM

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lime tangle same result as the original issue

weird
relogin using startx and send the output of lsblk

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:07 PM

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lime tangle sudo startx?

yup

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:08 PM

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quasi wigeon weird relogin using startx and send the output of ``lsblk``

this will tell me about the mount points of your disk

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:09 PM

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sda and sdb are the ones merged for snapshot room, ill set it up after this, nvme0 is the boot drive and nvme1 is the user space

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:09 PM

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got it

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see the text at the last, the weird mnt thing?

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/mnt/81....

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:10 PM

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yea?

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:10 PM

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that line?

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:10 PM

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lime tangle yea?

set that as your mount point in disks

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:11 PM

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Like how it was already?

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quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:11 PM

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lime tangle Like how it was already?

yup

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do you have a text editor?

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:12 PM

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xed i think

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which is default, n its there

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:12 PM

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lime tangle Like how it was already?

open /etc/fstab using xed and then check if the mount point of this drive is there

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:13 PM

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it there

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:13 PM

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what we are making sure is that the mount point is actually saved in the file system tab

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:13 PM

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lime tangle it there

Alright
try rebooting once again

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:13 PM

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login again?

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:15 PM

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lime tangle login again?

yes

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:16 PM

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imma just assume itll be via sudo startx

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:16 PM

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lime tangle imma just assume itll be via sudo startx

it shouldnt be

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:17 PM

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well, it would since same issue

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:17 PM

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if it is then what this means is that the mint installer fudged up somehow

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your home directory and all relative directories arent how they should be

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:18 PM

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well, home directory is in a seperate drive

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:18 PM

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Sry, this is as far as i go
this is certainly fixable but youd ned the help of an experienced person to fix it.

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i know what needs to be done but im not knowledgeable enough to do it

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lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:19 PM

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unless automount is broken on encrypted home directories

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:19 PM

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you can refer to this since this is the fix

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:20 PM

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lime tangle unless automount is broken on encrypted home directories

its..encrypted?

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:20 PM

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yes...

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:20 PM

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bro 💀 you are supposed to tell this stuff

quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:20 PM

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lime tangle yes...

that is easy
reinstall without drive encryption

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your system doesnt like drive encryption. since your home is in a separate directory bios isnt decrypting it @lime tangle

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and your system cant therefore mount it

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what you need to do when setting up drive encryption is to make sure home dir is on the main drive

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:22 PM

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fairs

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but if now the drive itself isnt encrypted, just the contents :^

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i think i found the issue for why it doesnt mount the drive properly in fstab

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:56 PM

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@quasi wigeon is it normal for the same drive to be mounted on / and /home?
Bc that is kinda what I'm seeing in fstab

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quasi wigeon Jul 28, 2024, 6:57 PM

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lime tangle <@895699982265511976> is it normal for the same drive to be mounted on / and /ho...

lemme check

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this is what mine looks like

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your image isnt very clear so i cant make out the words in it @lime tangle

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 6:59 PM

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1 sec, lemme get a better one

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@quasi wigeon

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maybe this could possibly be why lm users who want home space to be placed on a separate drive with contents encrypted get this issue

edgy quiver Jul 28, 2024, 7:37 PM

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cloud horizon <@162852075762352128> help here bro

Is it possible to get a short summary what happened, and what has been tried so far? This is a lot of backlog to read up on.

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 7:48 PM

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edgy quiver Is it possible to get a short summary what happened, and what has been tried so ...

he is locked in a boot loop, put the login but it comes back to the login

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we tried changing lightdm to sddm but it didnt work either, came back to lightdm and installed some extra packages, lightdm-greeter and lightdm-greeter-settings
which didnt work either

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 7:49 PM

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edgy quiver Is it possible to get a short summary what happened, and what has been tried so ...

My system won't allow me to log in bc I set the following partition config
NVMe0(250GB) - 512MB EFI, 34GB swap, rest btrfs mount /
NVMe1(2TB) - full btrfs /home mount with encryption
sda & sdb(2TB each) - Software RAID0, No partition set
System boots but refuses to log in outside of console with sudo startx(which we found out)
Most likely caused by the fstab setup above as well as encrypted home partition(found out with Fusion)

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 7:50 PM

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after that I didnt know what to do so fusion assumed

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we discovered that using startx with lightdm stopped would load the screen as usual after login in the console directly

edgy quiver Jul 28, 2024, 7:51 PM

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That is

a ginormous swapspace
very unusual partition layout
likely caused by your use of BTRFS, where I presume a config error is hiding
not something to be solved by fiddling with display managers

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Perhaps reinstall and try with an ext4 rootfs first. Or try a simpler partition setup, perhaps only add the second one later. Going step by step will either fix this, or isolate the error.

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 7:54 PM

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edgy quiver That is - a ginormous swapspace - very unusual partition layout - likely caused ...

I mean, it is ram+2GB

edgy quiver Jul 28, 2024, 7:56 PM

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lime tangle I mean, it is ram+2GB

Do you need the system to hibernate? Otherwise, you can get away with a 2GB swapfile and just let it sleep when not in use.

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 7:58 PM

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Well, all I'm planning on doing with the 250GB drive is using it as a boot drive

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And I'm planning to configure the RAID drives after i get it working

cloud horizon Jul 28, 2024, 7:58 PM

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i use 2gb of swap

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 8:00 PM

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cloud horizon i use 2gb of swap

Fairs

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 8:05 PM

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edgy quiver Do you need the system to hibernate? Otherwise, you can get away with a 2GB swap...

I mean, it will be set to hibernate if I'm away for too long or if i set it to hibernate, but yea, most likely won't use all 32GB RAM xP

edgy quiver Jul 28, 2024, 8:05 PM

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The swapspace should not cause this issue, but it is one of the anomalies on your system, so I am pointing it out.

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 8:06 PM

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Fair enough then

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 8:09 PM

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lime tangle

If now what i think would be causing it could potentially be either the fstab formatting caused by the layout
Or from the fact that I set the contents in the /home directory to be encrypted
@edgy quiver

edgy quiver Jul 28, 2024, 8:10 PM

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Well, share your fstab here and we can look for config errors. Also make sure that the swapspace is actually set up as swap.

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 8:11 PM

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I posted it as a screenshot which i replied to in my previous message and the swap space seems to be configured correctly from the looks of fstab and task manager

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But if ya want the file i can get it for ya

edgy quiver Jul 28, 2024, 8:18 PM

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I see it. I have never set up a BTRFS root volume, so not sure if these mount options are valid.

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 8:19 PM

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If now the weird part that i find is that the f97b drive is the 250 meanwhile the 81ca one is the encrypted /home partition

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Tho i wouldn't be confident in editing that file

edgy quiver Jul 28, 2024, 8:21 PM

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That last line in the fstab is weird. Perhaps comment that out and see what happens.

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Other than that, my recommendation is doing a clean install. If you need that BTRFS root volume, perhaps read up on how that needs to be set up. I can offer no guidance on it, and my bet is that this is causing the issues.

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 8:28 PM

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Same issue, only difference is that the 2TB NVMe drive isn't being given a mount location that being /home

edgy quiver Jul 28, 2024, 8:35 PM

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Sorry, this is the end of my expertise. Good luck in BTRFS land.

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 8:41 PM

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Damn

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If now I tried to edit the fstab file by replacing the UUID containing /home to match the one of the 2TB drive
Still no luck however it didn't change much to be honest

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N yes, i made a backup in the root directory

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@edgy quiver could you possibly explain the way fstab works, it might help me a little

edgy quiver Jul 28, 2024, 8:45 PM

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The name stands for file system table. It is a list that the kernel parses to see where the file systems are and how you want them to be mounted for basic system functions.

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The mount options part is crucial, these make or break your system. I have no idea if that "subvol" stuff is all you need for BTRFS.

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 8:47 PM

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edgy quiver The mount options part is crucial, these make or break your system. I have no id...

If i had to guess subvol would probably be what it should show if i ever opened the drives using a Linux usb boot maybe?

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Then what does the last digit mean at the very right on each drive listed?

edgy quiver Jul 28, 2024, 8:53 PM

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The last two numbers designate dump and pass. You may want to read up on it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Fstab

lime tangle Jul 28, 2024, 9:10 PM

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edgy quiver The last two numbers designate dump and pass. You may want to read up on it: <ht...

If i had to guess subvol would probably have to be bc for some reason the boot drive has 2 layers to it
Extended partition with swap and / directory nested inside, idk why tho

lime tangle Jul 29, 2024, 8:34 AM

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@quasi wigeon question, would I be able to do the following formatting
Same as before except the / directory and /home drive are encrypted with LUKS instead and the home directory isn't encrypted in the installer?

quasi wigeon Jul 29, 2024, 8:35 AM

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lime tangle <@895699982265511976> question, would I be able to do the following formatting S...

Probably, since the home dir is on an external drive

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you would need to do this on a liveboot, then mount your external drive and create the home directory again and add it to fstab

lime tangle Jul 29, 2024, 8:37 AM

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That's kinda what I was thinking of doing to be honest

lime tangle Jul 29, 2024, 10:20 AM

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@quasi wigeon so I've managed to get away with encrypting the drive that's going to be containing the /home directory in LUKS v2 btrfs
What now?

lime tangle Jul 29, 2024, 11:06 AM

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@edgy quiver would you know how to correctly setup a LUKS drive so that it asks for the password during boot?

quasi wigeon Jul 29, 2024, 11:37 AM

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lime tangle <@895699982265511976> so I've managed to get away with encrypting the drive that...

you need to setup LUKS properly now

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unfortunately i have 0 experience in that area

lime tangle Jul 29, 2024, 11:52 AM

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quasi wigeon you need to setup LUKS properly now

I seem to have it set up, the /home line of the fstab is pointing towards the luks directory, n with some research i learned that i had to make /etc/crypttab bc the lm installer didn't make it properly

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Would ya know anyone who would be able to double check if i correctly set it up, bc i am kinda doubtful 😂

quasi wigeon Jul 29, 2024, 12:32 PM

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lime tangle Would ya know anyone who would be able to double check if i correctly set it up,...

i dont know anyone with that kind of expertise but hey, your install is pretty new, the worst case scenario is that you might to reinstall 😂

lime tangle Jul 29, 2024, 12:41 PM

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True, which i did with install without the /home specified n am encrypting the 2TB
Reason: Linux was being a b n going into recovery mode bc it wouldn't wanna prompt the password

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N then move the home partition into the drive

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@quasi wigeon so at the moment i have this
think ya would be able to help me with moving /home into the homedir crypt partition and make it prompt a password to unlock it during boot?

quasi wigeon Jul 29, 2024, 12:57 PM

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lime tangle <@895699982265511976> so at the moment i have this think ya would be able to hel...

sry, ive never dealt with encrypted partitions before

lime tangle Jul 29, 2024, 12:58 PM

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oof

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if i had to guess its similar to a regular partition but with an extra bit of detail

lime tangle Jul 29, 2024, 1:29 PM

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@quasi wigeon i got it, the disk gets decrypted and runs perfectly as /home directory now ^^

quasi wigeon Jul 29, 2024, 1:29 PM

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lime tangle <@895699982265511976> i got it, the disk gets decrypted and runs perfectly as /h...

noice cheez

lime tangle Jul 29, 2024, 1:29 PM

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if ya want i could tell ya how

lime tangle Jul 29, 2024, 2:04 PM

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Make the LUKS(v2) partition that will contain home partition using cryptsetup any password ya want
2.Install LM using Something else and set the encrypted partition in the drive be used as /home n finish install b4 continuing
Run dd if=/dev/urandom of=/root/keyfile bs=1024 count=4, making sure it ends up in the /root directory of the drive that is hosting your OS and run chmod 0400 /root/keyfile
Run cryptsetup luksAddKey /dev/NAME /root/keyfile replace name with result from lsblk such as sdX, or nvmeXnY
Configure /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab accordingly

fstab: /dev/mapper/homedir /home btrfs defaults,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 2
should only be one line containing /home in fstab so you can always mount the drive somewhere and move from regular drive
crypttab: homedir UUID=e0940fb6-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx /root/keyfile luks
crypttab needs the following format
<crypt name> <Disk identfier> [keyfile] [encryption type]

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and if the keyfile is setup correctly then you have the following
Keyslot 0 = Password you set at the start
Keyslot 1 = Keyfile for auto decrypt

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@quasi wigeon

quasi wigeon Jul 30, 2024, 8:07 AM

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lime tangle 1. Make the LUKS(v2) partition that will contain home partition using cryptsetup...

:O thanks

lime tangle Jul 30, 2024, 8:10 AM

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quasi wigeon :O thanks

Tho one issue i found is that LM installer has an issue trying to install the OS onto an encrypted drive, so that would have to stay decrypted
Tho you might get away with partitioning the encrypted drive to host /root and /home while keeping the keyfile outside of both

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If ur gonna be using both user space and root space for sensitive data, but i don't see why to be fair

quasi wigeon Jul 30, 2024, 8:11 AM

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lime tangle Tho one issue i found is that LM installer has an issue trying to install the OS...

yeah, the lm installer is bad with using an encrypted partition

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what ive told people upto this point is to reinstall, but looks like ill be able to help them actually get around this issue with your solution

lime tangle Jul 30, 2024, 8:18 AM

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Yea, if ya want i could make a cli script that only requires that the user maps out what the following info is
Mount point for the LUKS partition(s), mount point for the OS and which directories are to be mounted inside the LUKS partition(s) then run the commands routing most of them into the correct destinations

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Or at least try to 😅

quasi wigeon Jul 30, 2024, 8:33 AM

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lime tangle Yea, if ya want i could make a cli script that only requires that the user maps ...

that sounds like a lotta work

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just chill with your now working mint install
stuff like this is part of a really small niche so the chances of the script actually being used isnt all that much

lime tangle Jul 30, 2024, 8:35 AM

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Fair enough then

quasi wigeon Jul 30, 2024, 8:36 AM

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Perhaps what you can do if you really want to is flag the inability of the lm installer to properly setup encrypted /home partition and add your solution on the linux mint forums

lime tangle Jul 30, 2024, 8:42 AM

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True

lime tangle Jul 30, 2024, 1:08 PM

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@quasi wigeon think i could dm you the build i have so far of the script, it seems to be working well enough with a temporary directory that i built up to simulate the OS mount part

quasi wigeon Jul 30, 2024, 1:10 PM

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lime tangle <@895699982265511976> think i could dm you the build i have so far of the script...

:O please do

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I wont be able to personally test it out as im a bit busy but i can ask some others to maybe test it out if you are interested

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