installation Linux with Win 11

[mystic burrow]

Hello, I currently have Windows 11 installed in UEFI with GPT partition, I want to install Linux (mint or kubuntu) on a second hard drive with grub boot at startup but I am not sure of the method to do this. Do you have a tutorial? Thank you.

[lethal trail]

both your drives are in gpt table?

[mystic burrow]

the one where windows is installed yes the other is new and not formatted

[naive mica]

GPT should be fine, I suppose?

[lethal trail]

then I'd recommend you to open disk management on windows and show me what you see

[naive mica]

Afaik, it should be just normal installation, with some edits to /etc/default/grub if it's needed

[lethal trail]

yeah, but not sure if mint will auto table the disk to gpt

[naive mica]

I see.

Btw, if you guys might happen to be interested, here you go :>
https://github.com/vinceliuice/grub2-themes

[lethal trail]

I'm guessing you already added a table, because it should ask you for it

[mystic burrow]

yes initialisation disk

i chose GPT

[lethal trail]

okay very good

do you have Linux downloaded already?

[mystic burrow]

yep and usb bootable is ready 🙂

[lethal trail]

you verified the image?

[mystic burrow]

nop 😦

[lethal trail]

well, you can ignore that if you want

[mystic burrow]

i know but it better to do it

[lethal trail]

you use Rufus or ventoy for creating the image?

[mystic burrow]

i use Rufus

[lethal trail]

Oki. where do you have the image? your downloads? desktop?

the iso file you downloaded from Ubuntu website

[mystic burrow]

i have the image in dowload and DL from https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/

[lethal trail]

open powershell

and type cd Download (or whatever download is in your language)

[mystic burrow]

done

[lethal trail]

Get-FileHash (the name of the image, you can type kububtu and then tab to auto complete, am pretty sure)

[lethal trail]

done?

[mystic burrow]

I'm checking the ISO

I don't think it's any good should I type this? .\kubuntu-24.04-desktop-amd64.iso

ok i found

[lethal trail]

yeah with the get hash command

Get-FileHash kubuntu-24.04-desktop-amd64.iso

[mystic burrow]

yep same hask return true

[lethal trail]

it gave you the hash or returned true?

[mystic burrow]

it's ok it returne True

i dowload the hask file

[lethal trail]

Oki

then you can install

do you know your bios or boot key?

[mystic burrow]

what do you mine about "do you know your bios or boot key?" ?

[lethal trail]

the key that you press when you want to get to bios or a boot menu

for my laptop, I have to spam key f12 after clicking the power button

[mystic burrow]

yep i know the Ke "F113

sorry lol

F11 for me

other prerequisites or I can try to install it ?

[lethal trail]

yeah you can install

[mystic burrow]

I'll do that and keep you posted here, in any case thank you for your help

[lethal trail]

sure, I think

[tender hare]

should mention, that even on a second, separate disk, Windows Fast Startup may still give problems.
#1193345280733622272 message

[mystic burrow]

yes I saw that but it seems to me that it is only on Windows 10

[lethal trail]

no, windows 11 has it too. it's just hidden.

[mystic burrow]

@lethal trail @lethal trail thanks for this

[mystic burrow]

@lethal trail @tender hare just to get your opinion I'm hesitating between mint and kubuntu. I used mint for a while and I think it's a good distribution but kubuntu is more "up to date" because version 24.02.

[lethal trail]

mint will be 24.04 in a few days too

[tender hare]

few weeks maybe

[lethal trail]

just use whatever you like better.

[mystic burrow]

Realy great news, i start with linux with mint

[tender hare]

I personally like native applications, and Kubuntu has some small native apps in its repos, but a lot of big apps the canonical team insists on using the Snap app format from their privately-controlled server Snapcraft. Mint gives more native apps, via the terminal, or Synaptic package manager.

[silk juniper]

Not really. And Kubuntu Is just Ubuntu with kde plasma on top

[tender hare]

my reasoning why I like native apps, i feel there's more trust from the distro maintainers of those packages, to have been vetted, and not malware. With snaps, a bad actor may fool ubuntu into thinking their snap app is fine, but really it's not

[mystic burrow]

Yep kde is cool but cinnamon too 😄

[tender hare]

(same for Flatpaks, and also why i like native apps. flatpaks eat 10's of Gigabytes of drivespace

[tender hare]

btw, if u have a ~16 GB flash drive, u can use the flasher program called Ventoy, and add Mint, Kubuntu, and even Feren OS (another Plasma based 'buntu distro) and test drive them all in turn.

[mystic burrow]

Yes i know ventoy, .deb is better ?

[tender hare]

are u asking if .deb installer packs are better in general?

[silk juniper]

Subjective

[silk juniper]

Feren is way too outdated

[tender hare]

they updated this February

[mystic burrow]

Better than flatpack or snap generally

[silk juniper]

Last update was over a year ago

[tender hare]

yes.

[mystic burrow]

If mint 24.02 is is close I will go to mint and make a kubuntu virtual box

[tender hare]

stuff you find from the terminal or Synaptic in Mint, or other non-actual Ubuntu distros are always native repository maintained deb packages.

[silk juniper]

Or consider tuxedoOS

[mystic burrow]

Ho i don't know tuxedo

[tender hare]

it's backed by the makers of Tuxedo computers. Based on Ubuntu, and runs KDE. (has a few added controls for their specific line of PC's, but can work on any x86 models)

[silk juniper]

Basically same base as mint, but official plasma support + some tools that may come handy

I recommend it for those who want plasma
Also no snaps

Make a ventoy USB and try it live

[mystic burrow]

I look this distro, once installed on the hard drive if I want to change distribution it does not pose a problem with grub already installed

[tender hare]

it shouldn't. New distributions that use GRUB (all except Pop!) just rewrite Grub upon install.

[mystic burrow]

And my pc is relatively new

[tender hare]

plus u can always just wipe the drive if ur unsatisfied. Just have a ventoy flash stick with at least something on it. How new?

[mystic burrow]

If I understand correctly, I can do a new installation directly instead of the other Linux? I5 12400 with msi b760p wifi ddr4

[tender hare]

yeah u can do that as well. it will use a more advance/ different option in the installer, if u want to overwrite one distro with another, while still keeping your Windows OS untouched.

[mystic burrow]

good news, tomorrow I will create the ventoy key with the distributions and see which one I will use. I will come to share the success or not of the installation 😁

[tender hare]

yeah let me forward u the instructions so it's easier for you. pay attention to line 10

[mystic burrow]

Thanks a lot 🙏

[mystic burrow]

hello the ventoy usb key works I have the 3 Isos mint kubuntu and tuxedoOs, now I will test live and see which one I will install

[tender hare]

Don't forget to turn off Fast Startup in Windows, and Secure Boot in BIOS

[mystic burrow]

Yep, I had to disable secure boot directly because otherwise there was no way to start on the Ventoy key.

[tender hare]

technically ventoy would support secure boot, from the bluescreens u have to enroll it, but that's fine if you're past that.

[mystic burrow]

I just tried live tuxedoos it starts from the ventoy key, kubuntu too but not Linux mint I will try to download the ISO again

[mystic burrow]

I just redownloaded Linux Mint and it doesn't boot, for your information my Ventoy key is in NTFS

[mystic burrow]

I just used compatibility mode and it starts fine

I don't know where the problem comes from

[tender hare]

did u guarantee both are off?

and ventoy status should look like in pic, disregard version number

should be exFAT too, by default

if pc is quite new, use the Mint Edge iso from their website

[mystic burrow]

yes both are disabled, for ventoy i have ntfs and gpt. can i update the key from ntfs to exfat no?