NosVersary Server: 18th Birthday

[dusk sorrel]

there is more than one post usually

Do you really expect them to work during the weekend?

[half isle]

[rapid hearth]

That would be great! Havent read that anywhere yet, can you link the source :)?

[dusk sorrel]

Source: On Oasis there was no second room for A8

And now that nosfire2 had no second room for A8 and A9 and map duplicates are now commonplace even on main servers, Id say it will stick this time too

[red verge]

Those feedback make no sense you clearly didn't understand why there are two different types of server

Plus Oasis problem was not at all the design but because they restricted transfer at launch

I agree we need one room in a8 and a9 raids and map duplicates should be added like in NosFire
Plus in act2 and 3 but I think it is forwarded 🙂

[dusk sorrel]

The first sentence is a given, not should

the second, well, A2 I agree but A3 is unnecesary

who the hell wants to waste time doing laboratory and A3 main quest

[magic willow]

This aint oasis too , im still confused on what you mean by "this not nosfire"(but at the same time looks like copypasted oasis) , this Is Nosversary and just from the name we should expect something nice. Plus the words that are written in the post do not reflect the reality of the server which is crazy scam

[dusk sorrel]

I did say its like oasis with a few things from nosfire

[edgy ember]

@novel harbor any news about server next week?

[cobalt berry]

it's sunday

[raven pecan]

I understand that you are investing a lot of money into the game and striving to be at the top, and I respect that. However, it seems you may not fully grasp the main purpose of this concept. Let me explain: the goal is to attract new players, to give another chance to those who once played but quit after falling behind, or to people who lost their accounts due to bans. These servers are not created for players who have already completed the game to simply satisfy their egos.

That is why the feedback I provided above is so important. In their earlier announcements, they mentioned that this is the first time they are preparing such a server, and the main reason we are addressing this issue is precisely because of that.

[dusk sorrel]

And I provided my two sense about why the server is made like this, based on the experience from playing the previous ones.

plus what we can expect based on it plus what is written

[raven pecan]

These players are already struggling in the early stages of the game and end up quitting. If we look at the late game, I honestly agree that the 3x XP concept is great, since it allows us to scale much faster. However, for someone starting at level 56 with little to no knowledge of the game, things are very different. For newcomers, early game money making methods are extremely limited and, frankly, boring.

You mentioned spamming TS 81. But imagine yourself as a brand-new player: if you cannot run a TS you don’t know 100, 200, or even 300 times with three characters, then you can’t really progress in the early game. To be honest, I’ve been playing since the days when only SP4s existed, and players have always complained about the same issue. The core reason behind this frustration is essentially the lack of a proper early-game boost.

[hallow bolt]

I read "Graham investing money"

[raven pecan]

I understand that you want challenge and difficulty, but this is a democratic space, and the purpose of this game is not to create challenge on the contrary, it is to make the early game easier. So unfortunately, you are in the wrong place. If what you truly want is challenge, you can set yourself a one month Dragonveil adventure: play one character for a month using only the items the game gives you, without spending money or transferring gear from your main account. Push your limits that way maybe then the excitement will fade.

[hallow bolt]

[raven pecan]

I don’t know what anyone else is doing, and frankly, I don’t care. However, if someone isn’t spending money, then before scaling at the start of the game, they’ve likely spent a huge part of their life grinding here either way, there’s a significant loss involved.

[hallow bolt]

I disagree with what you're saying

[raven pecan]

I respect that

[hallow bolt]

Like Roddindo said, new servers aren't meant for players to be top players on common servs, just catch up a little

If you're a new player, then it's logic if you're not top player, even on a new server

New player need to struggle, it's a MMO.

Not a private server

[dusk sorrel]

Huh?

https://tenor.com/view/you-missed-the-point-stick-animation-pun-gif-8425073

[tiny phoenix]

"Lack of proper early game boost"

2x exp until c60, free res, free sps, free eqs, free +9 sps... ????

[raven pecan]

Only having a 2x EXP event and a few 3x EXP weekends unfortunately won’t be enough to bring players back. Yes, I agree that players should face some challenges in order to truly experience the game. However, in this situation, there is no real boost at all. Personally, if I were a new player and the server launched unchanged in its current state, I would rather start on Dragonveil because there, we at least get around a two week birthday EXP event, and I wouldn’t have to worry about something like a battle pass. Sadly, there’s nothing else that boosts the early game, and that’s exactly the problem.

[dusk sorrel]

Uhh, same event on the event server no?

[tiny phoenix]

"I would play on dragonveil where its the same server with less boosts"

[dusk sorrel]

If I remember correctly, anniversary event is you collecting letters to get that 3 week medal boosting exp gold att/def

[hallow bolt]

Only the rates XP x2, drop x2 and gold x2 are already a good argument to come back imo.

[raven pecan]

Every year, XP events and various other events are held during the birthdays, and the data doesn’t lie.

[dusk sorrel]

Sure, but who will you do low lvl content with on dv or undercity

[tiny phoenix]

Yeah but those events are doubled on the event server buddy

[dusk sorrel]

and exp event will inflate prices of exp service and exp items, nosD is already sky high

[raven pecan]

If the feedback isn’t implemented and the game starts like this, it won’t make much of a difference don’t worry. I experienced the same on Oasis: I played a C90 warrior and never managed to join a single raid marathon. My items were above average, yet on NosFire servers, I barely had time to farm because I was constantly participating in marathons.

[raven pecan]

I suppose that’s the only advantage for the early game, but a new player won’t have the money to take full advantage of these events, so thinking like that, there isn’t really much of an advantage.

[dusk sorrel]

Also, I never wrote about increasing the difficulty or making a challenge on the event server.

[raven pecan]

I don’t understand why you insist so much on starting at level 56. If you’re an experienced player and have the potential to spend money, then on top of that, if you transfer items or currency, you’ll be among the top players on the server far more easily than on other servers. Isn’t that enjoyable enough in itself?

[dusk sorrel]

I just made observations, made some suggestions and commented on the suggestions of others

[dusk sorrel]

I am not insistent on a lvl 56 start, I just pointed out why it could be better for new/returning players

[raven pecan]

Alright, if you think that way, you’re right too after all, we can say this is a kind of voting here. Everyone's opinion matters.

[dusk sorrel]

My point with a lvl 80 start is that they lowered A5.1 gold rewards, made IC Rainbow Yerti Fafnir D/G 85+ and in LOD you can just 1+2 with a buddy for 2+4 on rebs and completely ignore the newbies/returning players who are left to rot.

also wheel spinning right from the start, A4 full af so they had to make A4 mobs respawn faster so people could quest

and if I had to point out one more thing, how many people got c53/55 c65 before completing the main quest in progression book?

[hallow bolt]

Filter

[raven pecan]

My only goal is to enjoy the game despite not having much time I’m both studying and working, and I want to play in my limited free time. Spending hours on raids to farm items, or spamming TS with three characters for hours just to get a costume set, feels completely pointless and boring to me. From what I’ve seen and read, the majority of the player base isn’t happy with this situation either.

[hallow bolt]

I don't want to play with noobs that are on my lvl just because everything is given and nothing is difficult.

[dusk sorrel]

Keep in mind thats a main server POV with nosD being above 1:160

new server has lower nosD rates, thus grinding f2p on it to buy up stuff from nosmall on sale is easier

and we will be getting the wings costumes pet/partner wheel again no doubt

[raven pecan]

Everyone has their own playstyle, and mine is that if I can farm something manually and the process is enjoyable, I get much more satisfaction doing it myself. Spending a large amount of Nos at the start of the game doesn’t give me any enjoyment, because I’m not playing alone and not everyone has the opportunity to do that.

[dusk sorrel]

Sure, but you NEED to buy things to progress in the game that are on nosmall

and I find it easier to do on a new server where nosD is lower and thus the items are cheaper

if you start as lvl 56 on main or event server, where will the same grind bring more value?

nosfire2 dino set + wings 5kk at one point

on dv its 40kk at least

I am a player for the most part, not a payer

[raven pecan]

Then just consider this: in a six week marathon, you’ll spend one week farming only pandas and costume sets, as well as small amounts of money you can invest, and you’ll have to do it using multiple characters, spamming the same TS for hours on end, day after day. In the remaining five weeks, you’ll be grinding levels for hours just to keep up with other players. Even writing this makes me feel nauseated thinking about the process, unfortunately.

[dusk sorrel]

Sounds more like your choice of what to do

but if you dont pay, you grind, thats just how it is

I am just saying that, if you have a choice as a new player or a returning player, starting as lvl 56 on a main server or on the event server

[raven pecan]

And that’s exactly the problem: the main reason this game fails to attract new players is that the early game is too difficult, and there are almost no ways to earn money there are only two or three methods, and all of them are hard.

[dusk sorrel]

1+2 A2 is not the difficult option

thats 3kk and items

[raven pecan]

No, the Act quests themselves aren’t difficult it’s what comes after that that’s hard.

[dusk sorrel]

Yeah, finding a LOD family where you cant abuse alts as lvl 65

It incentivizes making use of players on charas, not alts in my opinion

[raven pecan]

You can’t even pass the gate to the Act6 map with just the level 46 items the game gives you. You need to get pandas and costume sets to level up these items. Pandas can somehow be compensated for, but you have to get the costumes and items, and the money you spend on them is not a small amount.

In fact, doing LoD with just the level 46 items is a whole other ordeal you need to join a large family and chase XP.

[dusk sorrel]

That thing is still open for confirmation tomorrow. The EQ sets thing.

Anyway, let me make my POV clear

[red verge]

I understand your point, however I disagree because I would like a level 56 start to play a less degenerate state of the game. (i.e without 80 content bot)

In my opinion, this is what actually limit the players:

• Act3 quest asking to craft a divine potion (not possible without buying bazar, remove this quest)
• LoD being difficult to access with precise hours (nothing can be done there)
• Ibrahim raid is too long (remove 1 room)
• Act6.1 is difficult to understand as a new player (make a tutorial for champion experience or give champion exp in main quest act6)
• Zenas raid requisite shadow specialist to be done but most people don't have one (solution: give sp4/7 in BP or let them work)
• Kirollas raid is nearly impossible for a new player (nerf kirollas defence/resistance)
• LoL is not doable without shadow specialist with AoE : Seer, DH and Zerk (in BP)
• SP are impossible to upgrade to +15+100 let alone +20 during those 6 weeks (give MOOOOOORE completion gemstone like 1 000 in BP and limited full moon/feathers)
• The game need a lot of grind for exp from c65 to c80 (solution: x3 exp or buff second LoL)
• Act9 LoL is not actually possible AT ALL

Giving player full equipment, SP or even making them start 80 or even 99+30 will not make the game easier, it just make the game less interesting for everyone.
Addressing these points would help to satisfy each player more without giving them the world.

[raven pecan]

If these item issues are resolved, starting at level 56 could still make some sense, but a player starting at level 80 will always have more ways to earn money.

[dusk sorrel]

Ok, Graham responded, so let me make what I see clear

I will compare Nosfire2 and what I think the event server will be like (based on Oasis)

[raven pecan]

Yes, at least we provided constructive feedback, and what you said is very good, but there’s less than three days left, and unfortunately, they can realistically only implement one or two items from this list in that time. :(

[dusk sorrel]

Nosfire2 was starting as lvl 80. You could pick all 4 classes, had 30% fairies, 42% res, EQ sets from A4 A6 A7 r5+7 and first two SPs +5 job 50. Since there was a special warehouse, you couldnt transfer amulet from MA so you had to do the quest. A5.1 side quests had lower gold rewards due to being able to do them right away with alts. LOD is easier to do with A4 sets so you could do 1+2 LOD with alts and team up with another 1+2 guy for 2+4 on rebs, thus you dont need too many players to progress LOD. IC Rainbow Yerti Fafnir Draco Glacerus 85+, A4 full af so they had to lower mob respawn time. Battle pass, Progression book for more SPs and EQs, where getting the lvl 81 gear and all the SPs was great, but C53/55 and C65 were less useful when people spammed belials and valehir/alzanor raids to get them early.

[raven pecan]

I have a question: does anyone know if the rewards for Act 5 quests will be reduced on this server?

[fickle grotto]

we know nearly nothing, but i would be suprised if they reduce them since we are starting at 56

[dusk sorrel]

The event server, I imagine, is the usual lvl 56 main server start but with boosts. You can only pick the usual 3 classes, which get 30% fairies, 42% res, r5+7 low lvl gear (AND A4 A6 A7 but that is yet to be confirmed) and first two SPs +5 job 21. You need to get to lvl 60 before you can spin the wheel, and you need to clear the whole A2 to auto level to 65 to do LOD with other people (alts are not as tanky as the lvl 80 with A4 stuff on nosfire). IC Rainbow Yerti Fafnir Draco Glacerus have their usual unrestricted state, A5.1 gold rewards are not lowered since you cant do them right away and you need to lvl up alts like on a main server. Battle pass, server achievements, special daily rewards calendar. (IC gives no gold till 80+, arena of talents gives nothing and A4 is 80+ so no hordes of people right away)

[raven pecan]

They will probably be reduced, because in the past they were always reduced. If I remember correctly, they were also reduced on Oasis.

[raven pecan]

So, I understand you and you’re right. As I said, I think the healthiest approach is to wait for an update. Our discussions are ongoing anyway, and when the officials read them, I hope they’ll recognize that we all share a common issue and come up with a solution.

[dusk sorrel]

I just think lvl 56 is a common ground a lot of people have tried and know more than being lvl 80

it throws a few sticks in the way to get past

the lvl 80 start creates a block in traffic

everyone is in LOD (actually not really), everyone is in A4, everyone is doing A5.1

the lvl 56 start will make a block in A2 no doubt, and I hope it gets adressed

but lets face it, any start will get a block in traffic, be it lvl 1, lvl 56 or lvl 80

[fickle grotto]

100% agree with the first 6 points.
the rest on the other hand..
-sp7 is for free in bp (the only reward we know)
-you dont need +15+100/+20+100 to do every endgame activity. nice to have but far from mandatory
-the grind from 77 to 80 feels awful, the rest is okay
-a9 lol is very much doable after the nerfs, on nf we were able to trio it after 2-3 weeks. (the 56 start would slow it down by like 1 day- 2 if gear is hard to come by)

GF should just straight up include the first 6 points.
the kirolla thing is something i already mentioned in nf2. even with the free c25 gear kirolla was a pain in the butt but needed to be bruteforced since the next gear was locked behind the quest.

[dusk sorrel]

the lvl 56 start makes a sort of partitioning if you could put it that way, everyone is in A2 at start but then it splits off

people go LOD, some make it past 80 and start flowing into A4 and A5.1 steadily

then A6.1

Not sure if you get what I am trying to get at

On nosfire, being lvl 80 right away, the traffic gets stuck in multiple places at the same time, people can all do LOD A4 A5.1 right away, then A6.1 then A7.1

starting from lvl 56 will split people depending on their pace

[fickle grotto]

but at this point, its sunday and the server starts in 3 days, weve seen how long even small changes take if they ever got into the game....
ill have fun on my end with the new server even when it stays like it is outlined right now, but i can also understand that others wont.
i just hope gameforge put more thought than we think they did into the server so even more people can have fun 😅

[dusk sorrel]

and I imagine there is some monetary issues in play from the devs POV

like, people spun the wheel on nosfire2 from the first minute

but those same people cant spin right away, so they have to buy their advantage via the other ways

[fickle grotto]

you only need a lvl 81+ character on the same account on another server to spin.
those people (me included) will be able to spin

[dusk sorrel]

huh, let me verify then

[red verge]

You did a9 lol with 6 people with c83 gear? It seems totally IMPOSSIBLE according to our NF tests but there were 3 of us only and c80 so it could be a mistake on my part
I find levels 77 to 80 fine because there's a good map to farm (ice dungeon) but 65 to 73 are painful since you can only LoL and it gives nothing compared to the previous levels

[dusk sorrel]

Yeah its true lol

[fickle grotto]

yeah we did, 3 people 2 zerk + 1 seer, 83 weapons. we obv needed to make 2 dragonless pulls per side, but it was doable.
i hate the ice dungeon and the xp in there. always feels like a brickwall

[dusk sorrel]

Having a high lvl chara on another server unlocks the wheel, so only new players and some returning players will have to unlock it via lvling.

maybe this needs to be adressed, but I imagine they wont for the sake of finances

[fickle grotto]

but tbh, the "normal" wheel only holds a certain power. the best stuff is locked behind the special wheels and the rest is always buyable like skill tickets or tarots for the early game

the wheel isnt weak not at all, but for the most part is far from the biggest source of power, feels like they let it rot in the corner and put the most powerful stuff behind every fomo they can create

[dusk sorrel]

Special wheels have lower lvl requirements no?

[fickle grotto]

idk how they are locked, or if they even are locked

[dusk sorrel]

hmm

what else to discuss

Ok, lets split it into these categories: A2 A3 LOD A4 A5.1 A5.2 A6 A7 LOL A8 A9

Lets do it chronologically

[fickle grotto]

you want to get deeper into the feedback? i think its pretty late to get some changes in 😄

[dusk sorrel]

call it brainstorming

maybe we come up with something not yet touched upon

we already discussed the lvl 56 start, how A2 will be clogged, we already gave suggestions like map duplicates or mobs respawning faster

they did make the A2 quest line easier already and the events will also make it easier

1+2 will cost a bit more seeds of power, but they give 20 seeds from the start so A2.1 is covered provided you dont die

[dusk sorrel]

hmm well the rest of A2 is just going here or there, killing some mobs, talking etc

SP3 will be a bit more annoying, especially for archer and killing mobs on map

[half isle]

i was in the team with lastprotect. it was pretty easy

[storm leaf]

Surely they will implement any of the feedback before server starts

[half isle]

I assume the act2 issue will be solved.

[storm leaf]

[teal garnet]

If the act2 issue will be solved it changes everything, I will definitely play the server in that case and spend all my money on it. In fact, they could even drop the exp to x1.5 because I don't need to make a act10-ready character in that server. I just enjoy doing the same quests for the 28th time and even hear from my friends and family how my mental health dropped in these 6 weeks of pure joy. I will even be able to save money on water, as I will not have the time to shower. Time. Of. My. Life.

[half isle]

You dont need to shower anyways

[dusk sorrel]

After a week you dont feel it

or so they say

[rapid hearth]

Uhh nice, we get exactly the same boxes as with the last nosfire server, makes the 18th birthday feel even more special and unique 😄

[void laurel]

Which boxes?

[rapid hearth]

Dino and Panda/Otter

[novel harbor]

Hello, all these points were forwarded already

[novel harbor]

Nothing so far, but of course you'll have more news very soon

[magic willow]

These boxes panda/Dino will be ready for the start of the server or what? @novel harbor

[rapid hearth]

Just check the launcher, they stay for 1 week, as every other box 😄

[magic willow]

Mb im at work

[rapid hearth]

New server releases and you still didnt quit :o?

[novel harbor]

There's several stuff ready for the server start

[magic willow]

[neon lance]

Any examples ?

[novel harbor]

You'll know at the right moment

[nova pilot]

For those who didn't see, this is best serv

[red verge]

Can't wait to have a cute Fernon

[neon lance]

Me too

[sterile pilot]

lf family to nosversary server
me and my best friend push exp (2week mara nostale)
and 8ppls friends like play In the evening chill daily lod/lol

[half isle]

But do the chests remain or is alternative for it?

[half isle]

Thats hot

[novel harbor]

Dino and Panda you mean?

[half isle]

Is it a hint that we get hardcore fernon raids in future so more fernon dmg?

[half isle]

Yes do they stay for the Server is what i meant. Its common they stay for 1 week but Just want to make sure we have panda for start

[novel harbor]

No, those are gone already by 27th September, won't be extended any further

[half isle]

Thanks for clarification

[true basin]

Daveius could you confirm, whether there will be progress book with c10/55 stuff or anything like that for free on this server?

And what about lvl 85 items for gold coins (it was available on nosfire)

[hallow bolt]

Patchnote tonight or tomorrow? '_'

[novel harbor]

I don't have any info that can be shared already, but with the maintenance there will be a small patchnotes with some extra details

[novel harbor]

With the maintenance news

Or at the same time, better said

[teal garnet]

just don't post even that at this point

[edgy ember]

soo we are gonna know thing 10m before server open O.o

[proper crow]

xdd

[novel harbor]

Maintenance news are the day before the maintenance

[novel harbor]

Why not?

[teal garnet]

I thought you meant the notes at the same day

[hallow bolt]

Bro '_'

[novel harbor]

What happens?

[hallow bolt]

Don't say you will post it at the same time the server goes up '_'

[novel harbor]

I said at the same time than the maintenance news

[hallow bolt]

aah

[rancid current]

So tomorrow

[hallow bolt]

so tomorrow?

[novel harbor]

Expectedly yes

[hallow bolt]

Ok ty

I though it was during (or after) maintenance

[true basin]

is there any info about estimated hour when will it start? (maintenance and server)

[cobalt berry]

it will be 11~14 cest like always, depending on if maintenance goes smooth or not

[rapid hearth]

last nosfire we had 3 different server start boxes, all with stuff like ancelloan, fairy booster, tarot, ragnar partner, 16th birthday pet, wonderland costume and 300k gold .. I guess we get pretty similar stuff .. even tho I would wish for an 18th birthday something big

[sterile pilot]

any1 know how get sp 3 and 4 if gold farming start after 80? xD

[rapid hearth]

Gold from quests/timespaces, a5.1 quest, selling materials/eq from lod, and also probably goldclumps from noswheel and starter boxes

[cobalt berry]

its 250k/750k not that much of an issue

[true basin]

@novel harbor could you consider making labo ts (the one that we have to craft) joinable in party? Atm we need 10x each gunk per person

[shell flame]

or reduce the quantity or skip them (like the divine pot craft)

[true basin]

And nerf amount of gold from quests

[fast hinge]

or remove gold from A5 quests

[true basin]

nah, will make it super hard for f2p players

just reduce it to make it not worth doing with 30000 alts

[dusk sorrel]

But this time you need to lvl alts from 56

and you cant easily lvl them doing main quest past A2, lab time spaces are solo

[fast hinge]

lab time spaces are from A3

[dusk sorrel]

"past A2"

[fast hinge]

you dont need to make A3/A4, after rushing A2 you will get 65lvl thats enough for LoD and botters will make it again, thats for sure

thats why farming gold on A5 quests is too easy

[dusk sorrel]

yeah but you dont have eq after the 56 set

[fast hinge]

you dont know it yet, server is not out

[dusk sorrel]

then why bother adjusting A3 quest

[true basin]

Tbh on nosfire we started at lvl 80

[fast hinge]

probally they will respawn coin traders on A5, like on nosfire

[true basin]

and there werent many bots so it will be much harder this time

+10h to reach a5

[fast hinge]

I hope thats joke xD

I saw lines on holy mages, automated by bots

and gold traders had over 100kk on the first day

[dusk sorrel]

I am working with two scenarios

eq given and eq not given

both have 56-65 then first LOD, but if you have eq, you continue LOD and do the time spaces till TS81

if you dont, you party up to do A3 and A4 auto lvl and get eq + sp enhancer, then continue doing LOD and A5.1

[fast hinge]

Thats time waste, but have fun if you want

[dusk sorrel]

what do you do when you dont get eq then

weapons in LOD?

[fast hinge]

yertirand raid exists ✨

[hallow bolt]

why theorycrafting when you'll have patchnote tomorrow

[dusk sorrel]

better be prepared

[hallow bolt]

[dusk sorrel]

sure, for lvl 83/85 gear

but how long will that r5+7 thing from lvl 56 last till then

[fast hinge]

you can level up till 85 on LoD with 56lvl gear without problems

[true basin]

till c10

[dusk sorrel]

if you whale, sure

[fast hinge]

they made that game so easy, you dont need 85 r7+9 eq to level up on A6, trust me

even normal eq from yertirand raid r4/5+5 is enough in trio

[dusk sorrel]

the A4 stuff sure makes it simpler doe

[hallow bolt]

and how you farm c10 with 56 stuffs '_'

[dusk sorrel]

and the enhancer for SP1-4 doesnt hurt

[dusk sorrel]

56 stuff on zenas and erenia, 1h raids ez

[hallow bolt]

[teal garnet]

with the factor "6 weeks" this is all too much tbh

[hallow bolt]

it's ok

[teal garnet]

for jobless yes

[hallow bolt]

skill issue

[main stump]

guys we need 2 more weeks, its fact ._.

[fast hinge]

you can do MA on the same account rush A4 and put your card in warehouse to upgrade it, if they dont make nosfire thing

try to think less conventional

[hallow bolt]

Smarto boy

[dusk sorrel]

using SP less MA to clear A4?

getting his SPs is also time lost

[main stump]

no he mean the soulstone bro

[fast hinge]

you know what? go make your A3 and A4 on main account if you want lose your time

[dusk sorrel]

for clearing A4 quest

[main stump]

+1

[hallow bolt]

why not? 🙁

[dusk sorrel]

and to clear A4 quest you need

to kill the mobs and clear TS81, not to mention the bitoren mobs part

[fast hinge]

man those are only jackpens, kangpens and some of tundra mobs, they are not tanky, your MA eq on start is enough xd

but if they put warehouse in bp again, then it doesn't make sense

[dusk sorrel]

then enkidus, protas, gnoll warriors, ice worms, that dark thing, snow wolves, ice witches

[dusk sorrel]

they wont, whole inventory goes with you

[fast hinge]

and you think they are like A5 mobs with 100k hp or what

make it in trio group and the job is done

[dusk sorrel]

clearing with MA gives you MA gear doe

sp enhancer sure, might do that on the side for one extra but

[fast hinge]

I meant only soulstone to upgrade your sp on main account

[dusk sorrel]

well, this conversation will continue tomorrow after more details

you heard my planned routes

[fast hinge]

I hope they will add something more interesting, because till yet the server sounds boring

[hallow bolt]

I like it because it's challenging for once '_'

[dusk sorrel]

or for the mentally challenged

[hallow bolt]

[dusk sorrel]

[hallow bolt]

Again skill issue

[fast hinge]

int1-4 was a challenge too, but the gold time of nostale is sadly gone

[hallow bolt]

[dusk sorrel]

Another issue will be the lack of certain SPs

Swordie will be chill af, warrior blade sader berk for taste

archer at first ranger sin meh, but later WK Scout DH sure

mage red and holy best at start, AM to replace holy but then

seer from c30-c90, no gravity to exp voke or do fernons with

and lets not go into MA without SP11

[fast hinge]

you have right dont go into MA, let me buy my eq on him for a cheap price

[dusk sorrel]

BP and server achievements might be the saving grace

[fast hinge]

achievements not really if you dont play 24/7 at start

[true basin]

do you have any spreadsheet with acheivements rewards from oasis?

[teal garnet]

Achievements are only for the jobless

[dusk sorrel]

One can only cope my suggestion to increase slots for server achievements rewards will be implemented

[novel harbor]

I think this is too hardcoded to be changed, but we have some stuff prepared thinking on your concerns about Acts 2 and 3 progress

[true basin]

can I somehow change currency in nosmall? I made new account for this server, but instead of PLN it is in EUR 🙁 I am not using VPN

Can it be changed manually by support or just have to wait and hope it will fix itself some day?

[novel harbor]

Don't think so

[true basin]

on nosfire had the same issue

but after a few days it was resolved

[rose path]

need to be put on whitelist

it takes few days

[true basin]

zzzz

rip my wallet then

[shy harbor]

Mi na next dzień sie zmieniło samo

[nova pilot]

Is it possible to extend server duration by 2-3 weeks while lifting the 3x exp after the 6th week ?

[half isle]

Do you mean because of transaction fee from pln to euros?

[half isle]

Is this information also in the planed News you said will be released today?

[rapid hearth]

btw its just 3x xp on 1-2 weekends, not all the time

[true basin]

for the rest its 2x exp as usual

[dusk sorrel]

@novel harbor so no EQ sets besides the lvl 56 one?

[cobalt berry]

Why are we annoying the staff about stuff that was confirmed 6 days ago again?

[half isle]

Just wait for the Info they said will be Released within the maintenance post

[main stump]

https://tenor.com/view/parrot-dancing-cage-viral-hog-viral-hog-gif-gif-5416575818540199083

[true basin]

where patch notes?

[main stump]

top secret

[novel harbor]

Scheduled

[true basin]

when release?

its important information for unemployed

[rapid hearth]

I mean if you are unemployed then it shouldnt matter at all since you got time all day

[rose path]

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-disney-disney-ratatouille-disney’s-ratatouille-gif-6885947684231525203

[shadow dirge]

Lf info

[vapid latch]

https://forum.nostale.gameforge.com/forum/thread/3678-server-launch-maintenance-24-09-2024/

[shadow dirge]

[true basin]

@novel harbor

are we late? 😮 it started 1 year ago

gg no server for us

[red verge]

little typo

[dusk sorrel]

Hmmm

[red verge]

unpopular opinion: good changes

[dusk sorrel]

so basically, fu alt spammers, you have to go past 60 to actually farm?

[hallow bolt]

No Golden coins NPC?

FF15

[hallow bolt]

My bad i'm blind

Good changes uwu, can we have a list of changes and maps duplicated?

[dusk sorrel]

by 10 or so I wager

some would spam create charas to just farm that so yeah

rip huge pots but also kinda understandable, some more are given later doe

kinda meh but understandably farmable too

again with the alt farm thing but there are ways to compensate

now this is curious

[nova pilot]

without extra informations, probably the lab ts and crafts

[dark prawn]

simone_4 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[teal garnet]

[dusk sorrel]

[teal garnet]

HAHAHAHAHAH

[novel harbor]

Don't tell me I've been 9 months thinking we were in 2024

[azure gorge]

How are we going to get the sp7 without the progress book? In caligor? So we have to wait 3 weeks then..

[shy harbor]

bp

[dusk sorrel]

Someone overslept when nosfire1 and Oasis came out

[hallow bolt]

@novel harbor Any details of duplicated maps and what's lowered in quests?

[novel harbor]

Only what's mentioned in the changelog

[azure gorge]

The progress book didnt even exist in nosfire1

[dusk sorrel]

but bp did

[true basin]

will we get eq for a4/a6/a7 quests? And what about stones to up sp instantly to +9?

[cobalt berry]

its in the base game, if we wouldnt get it they wouldve wrote it, like can you use 1% of your brain capacity

[true basin]

I havent played in a while and from what I heard on DV you are getting some stuff for a4/a6/a7 quests

[true basin]

Maybe I came back to this game for new server and want to get info from trusted source? I am not sure what was changed this year

[cobalt berry]

but devs have better things to do than guiding new players with basic info and getting spampinged by questions that are basic information

[true basin]

I ve seen much more regarded questions on this channel

and as a community manager he will read everything so by arguing here we are making him spend more time

[red verge]

Act4 gives

• 78 and 79 equipment + Stone to +9 SP1/2/3/4
  Act6 gives
• C10 equipment + Stone to +9 SP5/6/7/8
  Act7 gives
• C25 equipment + Stone to +9 one SP of your choice

source: NosTale March Update Early Game Rework March 2025

[tiny phoenix]

Act6 gives act7 eqs and act7 gives act6 eqs

[hallow bolt]

Still don't understand why end of act 7 doesn't give c55 set

[true basin]

so you ahve to do anything in this game?

[rose path]

NF3 supremacy

[true basin]

instead of lvling from start to c80

[hallow bolt]

It's just not logic

[red verge]

yeah its a bit weird lore wise

[tiny phoenix]

A7.2 could give c55

[main stump]

Nice changes, liked it

[rose path]

Me farming Belial for 1week in 2025 to get my eq for A8 then farm A8 for 2weeks to have my eq to farm A8 to get Eq c80

[main stump]

And for the last one, need 2-3 more weeks

[cobalt berry]

1 week to get there aswell in a 6 week server

[rose path]

Cant wait for Week 5 to finaly reach A9 and be ready for the next big content

[cobalt berry]

then we can grab the catacombs title especially designed for this server right, how hard can the catacombs be

[rose path]

cant wait to use my sp2 since i wont have time to have sp11

[stoic ice]

So what class : mage or swordi gonna be easier if there is not gonna be a Progress book as in nosfire ?

[brave aspen]

mage 'cause you don't need to do sp 3 or 4, no need to spend time or gold

[dusk sorrel]

early game, sure

[nova pilot]

Swordi because you can access sp4 or just do the whole game as sp1

[dusk sorrel]

ok, lets compromise yall

mage and swordi ftw, archer till he gets wk trash

[red verge]

Ranger op trust

[nova pilot]

would be nice if we knew if sp7/8 were obtainable easily

[dense ledge]

when happy hour

[half isle]

if they are smart not before birthday

[dense ledge]

[half isle]

so people cash more

imagine not having cashed on last 40% event

[true basin]

Will startpacks stay the same?

[cobalt berry]

they usually release new ones, but they are very similar to the exisiting ones

[rapid hearth]

should be yes, on nf2 we got a 3rd starter pack added

they just re-named the current ones

[true basin]

yay give us 5k each starter pack

without hh

[cobalt berry]

there's normally 300k gold in the big starterbox

[sterile pilot]

where info start donate
where info start server time
where info start weel server?

[red verge]

Basically we do with what we have

[brave aspen]

As always you will never know anything before maintenance ends

[lyric prawn]

Swordsman 100%

[sterile pilot]

mage no have dmg in lol, swordman no have face

[dusk sorrel]

and archer no have res

[stoic ice]

Now i got more questions than answers. Seems like MA is correct choice here

[cobalt berry]

leveling is also a lot worse now outside of clol due to no thunderer

[sterile pilot]

ma only 11 sp best for pve

sec i have table

[true basin]

Anyone know how much hp does MA have?

I mean copared to other classes

[teal garnet]

Between swordie and archer

[red verge]

I wouldn't recommend playing MA to anyone

except if your intention is not doing any raid and buy every eq for cheap bazar

[solemn chasm]

With a solid fist set, I've seen a lot of MAs absolutely shred in Arma&Pollutus raids on SP1/4

And for mapping you use Thunderer and are practically chilling till C90

[half isle]

how do you want to do thunderer, that sp is unavailable before c80. its still tough to do the ts etc

[solemn chasm]

Coping that they treat us nicely like they did on Nosfire and hand it out earlier

[void laurel]

we will see if they give them

[sterile pilot]

3...2...1... waiting mode

[lyric prawn]

So wikk we get some infos with patchnite

I mean maintenance

Will*

[half isle]

Probably not

[rose path]

Me looking for every bit of information while i'm spinning the wheel

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-тарасхакер-компютернінауки-інженер-gif-20826790

[half isle]

https://tenor.com/view/dcg-dragonclawgames-spin-spinning-wheel-gif-21987668

[storm leaf]

smh what a noob - you spin wheel on 2 accounts while third is already doing ts

[rose path]

couldnt create a third...

[half isle]

[storm leaf]

20 accounts for zenas have to be ready before server starts

[jolly gate]

only 2 accounts?

[half isle]

We will See once its up if no sp11 for ma its gonna be tough

[dusk sorrel]

Or sp10 for mage

Using blue for fernon...

There is just one holy slot

[rose path]

Sp1

[brave aspen]

I bet no free mount

[rapid hearth]

Yeah im curious how the birthday calendar looks like, if its actually useful items or rather miniland stuff xD

[lyric prawn]

Never seen before special birthday server

[main stump]

I think they will gift steam motorbike (trash one) like last year

[lyric prawn]

Gotta be the most broken stuff

[rapid hearth]

as long as its not literaly broken stuff so we get an 6 hour maintenance xD

[lyric prawn]

We will see

Still not sure if I wanna play or not 🙁

[rapid hearth]

better wait for nf3

[storm leaf]

during nf3 there will be a10, now there is nothing to do

[half isle]

nf3 will be insane

it will be MA focused with sp11

i hope for nosfiremartial artist specialist server with new sps and finally balance for sps with aoe norm 😄

[storm leaf]

Why do you need aoe norm on new server

[half isle]

have you played ma without aoe norm?

[storm leaf]

I didn't, but i played with people that easily went to c90 without it at same pace as other classes

[half isle]

of course its easy, i played it aswell, and sure sp4 ma is fine to aoe spam but, it just feels slow not having aoe on normhit.

[umbral kernel]

lf group to grind start 8.00pm cest dm

[vital copper]

When start server?

[rancid current]

in 1 week

[neon jasper]

I think the BP is way to hard for 6 weeks only, especially because you start at lv56 and have to clear act 2-4 first

For a Person with a job, 40 days is too short. Sad.

[lyric prawn]

same for me so many good titels for the first 5 first 10 but not possible if u have work 🙁 maybe next server will be announced month before ❤️

[brave aspen]

Give free seed of powers

[shrewd nymph]

Make titles cosmetic only.

[dusk sorrel]

Already got bot ninjas farming A2 😄

[magic willow]

What you expect , a game without bots?

Even in League of Legends we got bots

[dusk sorrel]

Kenko spy fourth spawn point is effed

[vapid latch]

zzzzzz

[wet cedar]

yeah preferably

[umbral kernel]

anyone know why i cant see noswheel and dino boxes?

[tiny phoenix]

What lvl are u

[umbral kernel]

57

[magic willow]

[true basin]

zzzz

ch 7

[umbral kernel]

buy marie pay dv

[fast hinge]

Well after the first day I have to give a negative opinion about the server:

• starting at 56lvl is just waste of time.
• thanks for the start code, but it could contain seed of power and partner/pet dolls.
• its too short for that ammount of work to even transfer character without having anything special.
• reduced ammount of items in battlepass, like alzanor/valehir horns.
• making us have to do laurena raids for battlepass despite receiving SP8 in the battlepass is a joke.
• removing even potions from the battlepass makes it harder to exp on LoL as MA or and warrior.
• removing the 55c and 65c equipment for quests makes, that the server require more time to be invested, than the previous one, which would be a good change, if the server wasn't 6 weeks long.
• any bot catching in nosville farming power seeds, without any reaction.

[true basin]

they will most likely just extend this server and it will fix most of mentioned issues

[wet cedar]

if they dont have enough players they will do that, but if they have it they wont do anything probably

[shut cedar]

Totally agree, a lot of things they have to change, no time for nothing specially if you have to work or study also if you are a free to play player even more harder

[undone pier]

It was such a bad start day for anniversary...

[frosty nebula]

In my opinion:

• Poor patch notes. Explain what changed. AFAIK, some quests and mob respawn timers changed, but we shouldn't have to guess what changed. Just tell us in detail.
• Starting at lvl56 is definitely a mistake. Everyone has to spend like 3-4 hours just to start doing LoD for no reason. Many TS are walk-and-wait simulators. It's just boring and encourages you to stop playing. In fact, it takes the same amount of time to go from level 56 to 65 in Nosversary as it does in DV or UC. It makes no sense at all.
• The starting code is more than nothing, but disappointing. Seeds of Power were absolutely necessary, for example.
• Not allowing us to enter Glacernon pre-80 is stupid. The maps are good for farming SoPs and equipment. I understand it's to prevent bots from farming ice flowers and alts from entering Caligor, but simply change the requirements for obtaining flowers and dont allow pre-80 players to enter Caligor's entry map.
• A 6-week server isn't enough time to play on this server. Are we only given 6 weeks to go from level 56 to c90 and farm all the gear in the way? Even if I didn't work, I'm not sure I could get to c90. Yes, x3 some weekends sounds good, but i dont think it compensates the reduced time. And what about equipment?

• The lab quests are simply insane. Even reducing item crafting isn't enough. And again, it encourages you to stop playing. We need 9 half moons, and the 3 ways to get them on day 1 are by repeatedly doing TS 41, getting lucky with Gillion, or getting it from IC.
• Level 60-70 ICs have a bad activity point system. It requires you to deal too many damage and is really hard with so many people attacking enemies, so it's not a consistent way to get rewards overall.
• I think the new BP has some good changes, but also some horrible ideas. Asking us to do 50 Laurena while giving us the SP for free is simply inconsistent and silly. It should be changed. Why Laurena????
• Reducing the BP quest requirements was a good idea, but reducing the rewards is questionable given the short duration of the server
• No progression book? That's a huge downgrade and makes no sense at all. It's been partially mixed with BP, making it worse than it could have been if we had them as two separate things.
• It's too early to say anything about the daily login rewards, but my first impressions and assumptions are also bad news. The new wings are probably hidden behind hilarious odds, and the daily rewards don't look great. It's obviously better than the regular login, but I don't know if it's a good anniversary calendar. We'll see.
  TL;DR: As predicted, this server is a huge mistake, just like Oasis. Do we really have a reason to play it? I hope to see a lot of changes and new features, because if this continues, I think the player base will rapidly decline.

[true basin]

Ch 7

[lyric prawn]

Ye I'm going to play on undercity should be faster then here and much cheaper

[radiant condor]

Im pretty sure that they will do adjustments like they did on oasis. Server feels empty compared to Nosfire

[neon jasper]

I think the development Team just has no Idea how time consuming it is, to complete the BP for Transfer, especially if you have to finish act 2-4 before. The Lab quest alone take ages, because you have to farm 30 gunk and other mats.
I would like to have such a server but without too much stress, that my character will be deleted. 6 Weeks is wayy to short for these missions, if you have a job. Its almost the same BP as Nosfire, but there you started with Lv80 and so on..

Either you have to make the BP easier or you have to extend the server duration by 2-3 Weeks.

People wont even start on this server, because they arent sure, they can finish the BP within the 6 weeks. I know a lot of people that already quit. And thats sad, because we were really excited before.

[void laurel]

How am i supossed to do sp quest from ma when there are ppl hunting the boss

And i dont have dmgxD

[bold moss]

Everything is very nice, but hopefully in the not-too-distant future, Fernon can be obtained on the normal server in Dragonveil or Undercity, meaning it will be tradable, and those at Nosversary will earn money.

[main stump]

🙂

[calm pike]

i miss nosfire, this server had a bad start, the number of players online so low, it makes more sense to start the game in Undercity or Dragonveil. SO BAD

[umbral mica]

literally every achivement is for speedrunners like why am i supposed to play a very bad version of nosfire

none of my friends too are not playing

[hallow bolt]

ff

[umbral mica]

give achiviement rewards accessible to everyone and the server will full in a day

https://nostale.comastuff.com/Achievements/Achievements.php?type=1&lang=en&id=G3p9T7wQ1Z8mR6cD2vH5 If you read the achivements seems like the server is made for only the 10 top players of the server

[pale cloud]

💯 Accurate. Some of them, top 8

[round root]

This server is a complete failure, haven't they learned from the past Oasis?!

Lvl56 in rush server is a joke even more so in 6 weeks

Alot bots everywhere

[main stump]

Thats what happens if they dont listen feedbacks 🙂 Now, good luck to them they cant fix this start, even doesnt matter if they add progress book + extend the time. The server will be compeletly dead in 1-2 weeks.

[void laurel]

Tbh feels like any from dev team have played its own project xD

They have 4 classes, seems the have forgot 1 of them

Maybe they should do in a controlled enviroment a closedbeta to test it

Then more ppl will join and lesspeople will drop

Cause the server feels empty

[calm pike]

Yes, bots everywhere for farm event potions, gold, etc...

[void laurel]

Also the presence of bots

They are alot

Also we dont forget this
"Nosfire" when we are at nosverasy but well xD

[round root]

In nosfire start at lv80 i dont saw that amount of bots

[teal garnet]

For the top 10 most jobless

Buying ND‘s with our taxes

[magic willow]

Bots will play even if start was lv.1

[lyric prawn]

Just wait for nosfire guys

This is only wirth if u can get top 5 Titels etc

[round root]

Lvl 80 havent alot maps to him farm

[teal talon]

Didn't they change it to 3 gunk each, so 9 gunk total

[umbral mica]

nostale has a lot of potential and had a lot of fun playing but these new content are way too time consuming, like its not a job and there are many other games to play

Hoping this kind of super grind content gets decreased because i like the game

[raven valve]

Fix A4 Lord pls, or we cant start any A4 raids on this server... way to much def, atk and hp

[lyric prawn]

They alrdy made lord mukra weaker just dont try before c60 eq 🙂

[fast hinge]

Really they make 3x exp at start, when people dont even have dolls and equipment, what a waste xD

[novel harbor]

There's more than 1, don't worry

[void laurel]

@novel harbor , will be nice to check about the 80 lvl MA equipment

Will be hard to progress even wwhen we dont have the regular 21+5 sps

win trade

[wet cedar]

when will be the server adjustments?

[vapid latch]

Can you please stop doing XP event same weekend on both server ( temporary and normal )

[fast hinge]

"that gives us the chance to do adjustments in the very first days if something needs them"
and as MA player I still cant get my weapon for golden coins, to have a chance using exp event

[shut cedar]

@novel harbor man this is for real annoying I cant even get the aniversary medal cause "I already receive this in the other char that I was playing till I move to MA" so you can think maybe my bad but you cant even pass your medal to the other char via warehouse (thats maybe logic) but then now I have no aniversary medal. Thank you for the aniversary best server that you could make even worst than other new servers and a pain

[shadow dirge]

top server no joke

[magic willow]

Just put x3 exp every weekend or this server will be impossible for workers

[shut cedar]

But remember guys not every day you turn 18

[round root]

The server is died in second day hahahahaha

[shut cedar]

every day the server dies even more and more ppl drop in low levels cause they have to do all the fcking quests act 2-4 to get things if you want for example equipment etc also no easy methods to make some gold only the "top" players that had spend a lot of money

[sterile pilot]

i rly rly hate this concept server

sry its not playeble for me

[shadow dirge]

[main stump]

we already told you

[main stump]

You like hard content now ?

[magic willow]

Bro Is a pro rage baiter

[main stump]

Idk if he is rage bait or not, if he still keep playing, lets enjoy with 20 people

and with their bots

[fast hinge]

Their deactivated A4 buff, but didint nerf mukraju boss to even get A4 raid

[bold moss]

1550?

[wicked verge]

the store does not appear

[magic willow]

Guys

wdf is this server , so bad , maps are full of people doing quest , act 4 have shared maps which makes thing even worst

x3 exp while doing quest completely useless

Fix server please

Progression even slower than normal sv

only 3 mobs in a quest that requires 5 , 4 minutes respawn each mob

with the map full of people , gg

" fast progress "

[shut cedar]

yeah man totally agree with all you said also we all have the same problem cant even pass act 4 bcs ppl camp the spawn of moobs and its like zzzz

[rapid hearth]

@novel harbor is it intended that crafting 10 divine recovery potion only counts as 1 towards the battlepass?

[cerulean quail]

Why does the server feel pointless and tough unless you have like 3 people squad coop-play perfectly...?
No pdf on a 6week server - I am first-time playing such event server, I have to ask people of everything regarding eq and res reward.
or does this server only target expert veteran who speedrun everything or solo every raid in normal server?

If any adjustment, please announce asap, really losing interest here.

[neon jasper]

Short answer: Yes, the server is meant only for people
• without a job,
• who know exactly what to do, and
• who are willing to speedrun everything.

The server is NOT suitable for new or returning players, nor for casual players who just want to enjoy the game.

It’s a bit sad, but that’s the reality: Gameforge mainly supports hardcore grinders who can play at least 12 hours a day to rush through everything.

[fast hinge]

This server is made for speedrunners, kinda sad that they called it a "birthday server"

[cerulean quail]

ngl I start thinking I get too comfy in normal server and now I am being trash playing the game

[neon jasper]

If you are a normal player, dont stress yourself and just start at a regular server. The Event Server is not worth your time

[main stump]

Normal server is just better mate, this server is a big failure

[umbral mica]

achievement: top 10 fastest to quit server completed ✅

[main stump]

Some braindead people were saying that this server would be very suitable for new players and that it would be a fun server, but now we don’t see them writing in this feedback channel that’s so ironic

[neon jasper]

Honestly, I think it would have been much better to have a new server like in the past — one where you get way more time with double exp, double gold and similar events. A server where you don’t have to worry about BP transfers or the risk of your character being deleted.

Don’t get me wrong, I really enjoy the NosFire server, but a birthday server like this should be fun for everyone — especially for new and returning players who want to enjoy the game at their own pace, who might need more time to figure things out and get used to all the new features and changes.

6 Weeks for a BP like this, is just not really possible for such players.

[red verge]

Because NosTale is a MMO and to progress you need to play with other ppl

but I agree that BP may be too high

Well the worst is the weekly that is 0/8 Fernon raid (no one is gonna do it)

[fast hinge]

True

[neon jasper]

The Problem is, that gameforge developer have no idea about their own game. It feels like they doesnt even think stuff through. Some of these missions really feel ridiculous.

I agree, that not every character should be transferded, so it doesnt get abused with alts. But the BP shouldnt be so time consuming that most of the players already quit because of it.

Or make the server duration 10-12 Weeks instead of just 6. Because 6 weeks is wayyy to short for regular people with a job

[umbral mica]

Killing the game speedrun, like what are these updates, also the catacombs who really doing them apart from top guilds

nostale don’t want avarage players playing period

[snow rune]

So much fun to collect the energys from zelotes. -.- not even hard to do

[shadow dirge]

[split pawn]

soo will there be any adjustments or should i quit too ? This server feel like a heavy downgrade from nosfire

[raven valve]

wait until you run erenia

even more fun

[snow rune]

i know ho wmuch fun this is i wrote with some people. and the bp items are a joke.... like... you get the coins and you are already c10. you need card 7 and enough honor to do lifestyle cards and cant do anything

[wet cedar]

there will be but its gonna be too late

they already lost a lot players and if they lose more (which gonna happen)they will adjust it

[proper crow]

xD

[shut cedar]

XDDDDDDDDDD

[shut cedar]

1 hour before ch 1 was normal

[shell veldt]

Go u try, i try for 19rd

and i lose 🙂 +

[azure kestrel]

Imagine having someone intelligent enough to fix this BP to save this server a bit

bcs my guys said pretty all about it but how can u not put 50 pts on doing TS and having 30 Gold coins to progress after all quest, seriousl

NF server we had 30 coin when lvl 85 and it was what ppl need to not struggle like now

[shut cedar]

thats for real true too like they give to you 40 XD

[azure kestrel]

I think they wanted we do 50 laurena for 100 pts

[shut cedar]

yeah imagine doing laurenas right now XD

idk what is harder right now erenia or laurena hahahahaha

[proper crow]

whats the point, of doing laurenawhen they are giving sp8

[shut cedar]

no point thats what we mean

[proper crow]

yea ik

[azure kestrel]

imagine the time to set up laurena

I think the guy who did the BP works for netflix

[shut cedar]

also for example the triple exp and other things like in the weekend they dont work and we are here suffering and waiting for a fix XDD

[azure kestrel]

he had a scenario in his head

[shell veldt]

XD

[shut cedar]

Or maybe he was watching netflix meanwhile he was doing the BP

[azure kestrel]

"they will want to do 50 laurenas, to have powder they need to go FC, so we will put 50 kills to make them fight and pve"

[shut cedar]

Meanwhille he smokes

[snow rune]

maybe s1 who has something to say could say something 😄

[azure kestrel]

they got money for it with HH 50%

[snow rune]

but we are in darkness~

[shut cedar]

yeah but I imagine them like "lets release happy hour now 50% the friday and then we go to our homes to drink some alcohol and celebreate meanwhile their suffer"

[azure kestrel]

Beer and Bretzle tonight guys, Monday is payday

[teal talon]

I mean the thought process probably was more "Let's do an auction first so people panic buy ND for Fairy Effect Lock to cash in on FOMO, then immediately release Happy Hour to make people buy a ton of ND to prepare for the next auction to cash in on FOMO again"

[shell veldt]

I WIN GUYS I WINNNNN AFTER 45 RAIDS LOSE I WINNN

[shut cedar]

gg now go and exp

[azure kestrel]

Struggle so hard ppl are paying to win erenia

[magic willow]

x3xp completely wasted cause all people stuck on erenia

[azure kestrel]

u had 2 days before triple XP and ppl were 85 day 1, it's ur fault dude wtf

[magic willow]

Sure , my fault i had to quit y job before server start

[azure kestrel]

Nostale is full time job so yeah, but u pay and not get paid

[cerulean quail]

should've studied all guides, item crafting, write a thesis for Nostale phD on how to create a sustainable economy

[cobalt berry]

#1417874234365055026 message

My bucket of Popcorn is empty, anyone wanna bring me a new one?

[shadow dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-11059538064120696238

[red verge]

When I got c55 eq I will save the whole server

[spring fulcrum]

fix erenia pls ty

makes no sense that we have to pay 42kk 1 +55 player jsut to go forward

[pale cloud]

“Fast progression” but…
Radal rings still [1] mandatory [2] require 10 times a TS with double wait-room where the mob spawns exclusively in the last room, one per TS… 💀

How despite numerous nerfs, this wasn't at the very least brought down to kill the mob/run the TS only once, not even on rush servers… Joke. Has noone ever really brought this up before, or how was it deemed unnecessary?

Lezz not forget, that side quest results in nothing for itself: it's the vestigial tail of an act never implemented…
That "seal of zenas shadow" end-quest-item was never given purpose.
So give the rings on completing A3.1 quest, common sense, please.

-# & then make "Defeat zombie Radal" some mid-tier BP mission in some later server, at least that'd be a funny spin for nostalgic players. But very much optional.

[west basin]

The needed mob spawns 4 times in the middle of Map 3. Respawn times are like 5sec max after clearing

[pale cloud]

Or stop the nonsensical cashgrab rush servers altogether, please.

They ruin the game for every real server, every real guild:

• dead economies
• low activity
• people desert to chase carrots on stick
• eventually unleash a wave of pent-up resentful players who sold their kidneys, lost their sleep & mental health

All to succeed in a pointless competitive hack version… that still amounts to mediocre characters once transferred, in comparison to the real server's patient-ish players.
Soloists never waited for rush servers to fast-track countless alts to play on their own. Why encourage them in an environment that fosters even further the selfish, arrogant & self-entitled mentalities…
The new start level, act rewards, QOL updates, they're the real good ideas to bring the fun back for old & newcomers.

The most common things I hear on guild recruitment, condensed:

“ I'm new to this game / I'm a returning player but it's been so long, there's so much I don't remember and different ; so I joined XYZ Noserver to catch up with everything.
But now it's over & I feel so lost, I'm confused about what I should do, because I can't find anyone to play with or who'll let me raid with them on this normal server.
Is that really normal?
It's like the prize for all that rush & grind is the game has ended… I'm not sure I'll keep playing. ”

[pale cloud]

Heard it wrong then. Was this in the patch notes?

[spring fulcrum]

Wait until you realized it's all just for making more profit 💵

[red verge]

No thanks I don't want to play with 30 alts.
I'm playing on a new server to be able to play with 1 (1) account and still be allowed to play with other people and make gold based on my character, not my StarCraft 15 accounts mechanics.
Maybe old servers are just boring and useless (there's even less pvp content lmao) and this is why people don't want to play on them. It's unfortunate but the fun is here.

[pale cloud]

Event servers are plagued by bots & alts just as bad. Temporary rush servers ain't any kind of solution in all seriousness…

But I agree, the solo-mindset ruins the fun.
That's why we need true starter-friendly servers, with incentive to play old content at real difficulty, in teams: I'm writing up a suggestion about that right now.

Imo old servers have their issues, but the current version of event servers ruin them more. What they need is improvement & QOL, not a bi-annual desertification to play some smoke & mirrors "chance of a life time"

[red verge]

Players are not able to clear content because they have no idea what to do, maybe champion tutorials would be useful.
Also BP is hard to understand for most players, they don't get what they need to do to progress.
But the game is now in a state where you need to play as a group of 3. (Before it was solo or duo only)
They changed exp in a good way and you can see this in new servers, most people are playing as a team.

[calm pike]

when will be open new nosfire

[wet cedar]

lod times

[dark prawn]

All times are CET/CEST

[hallow bolt]

Skill issue.

[umbral kernel]

What is aniversary medal

[spring fulcrum]

day 2 - fix erenia ty

[nova pilot]

Use hands, brain pet and potions

[spring fulcrum]

ask that to 15 players at the same time while some of them are kids or boomers

[nova pilot]

Players being bad at the game doesn't mean the raid needs to be fixed

[spring fulcrum]

Ok elon musk

[nova pilot]

Imagine you can use ibra eq, potions and pets

[hallow plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1216827687520174137/1422146656802963588/image.gif

@shut cedar

[shut cedar]

no one is talking about this the erenia service?

[teal talon]

I respect the hussle

[frosty nebula]

So... No changes comming to NosVersary?

It has to be a joke or some changes should be comming in the near future right?

[shadow dirge]

[median loom]

what changes? just spin the wheel

[frosty nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/marblecards-wheel-pepe-scuffed-gif-20251623

[nova pilot]

what changes did you want ?

[rose path]

artist martial cant craft weapon 81

[nova pilot]

this is still not fixed lmao ?

[median loom]

vastar say they look into it on the next maintenance

[shut cedar]

money money money

[prisma nymph]

at this point with all the negative feedback it seems like they have deemed the server unworthy of even making changes to? It would be nice to have at least some sort of message for the players that are playing on that server because it has been mostly radio silence

[shut cedar]

I think they dont give a fck :')

[median loom]

they already got the 💰 bag with the server launch

[shut cedar]

the weekend 90% of the sv was stuck on erenias and then the erenias service start and other shits XDD

[prisma nymph]

I just don’t understand why or how this is handled the way it is currently, I do not wish to come across as rude, I just want to understand

[shut cedar]

yeah that for sure they know how to do a good marketing to earn money but now for the bad reviews they dont know nothing

[prisma nymph]

Melónoth raid was improved after feedback, for example, which was nice. But here even if there are improvements on the way for the server, they’re not being announced? Either the players will not get any changes and that is why there’s no announcement, because otherwise I don’t really understand

Server would be much more playable with addition of daily BP that are more reachable than the current seasonal ones

[shut cedar]

even in oasis were changes

[prisma nymph]

I just really hope that there are some patch notes or changes because I missed NF 1 and 2 and I was hoping to play this server

[frosty nebula]

1. MA lv 81 main weapon fix
2. Quest progression fix
3. Better equipment path:
   i. lv65 eq should be given after completing act 2. Having to play with lvl 56 eq until lv80 is just a nonsense
   ii. lv79 eq should be given after completing act 3. Once you end act 4 you probably have 50 bp points already to buy the next one and it makes no real sense giving it after act 4 instead of act 3
   iii. c10 eq should be given after zenas to avoid "erenia win" abusers. It only generates a heavier snowball (if we hadn't enough) and it's bad for the server economy overall
4. Some new incentives to play the anniversary server
   i. Path is slower than in normal servers until like c10
   ii. As I said before, it's a really bad event with 0 sense of existence beyond them gaining money. You dont have a reason to play it over UC or DV
   iii. In nosfire at least we were guaranteed a fast progression. Here we have x2/3 exp with the counterpart of having less time and no equipment, which means slower progression and less ppl getting to a decent clvl
   iv. A good incentive for your "special anniversary server"??? Only 1 please??? (Insert a Squidward begging meme here) It's not that hard, idk. If it's worst than past servers obviously ppl will be disappointed...

Idk, i'm just bored of writing this. it's like no one's at the wheel in this kind of situations. I haven't quitted playing yet like a lot of ppl has, but I'm not sure if i will if the situation doesn't change...
Not every day you turn 18, I guess...

[magic willow]

We showing returning players and new players how early lvl nostale doesnt make sense

[lyric prawn]

I think this server was the biggest bait nostale has ever done

[cerulean quail]

It is a server rewards players which are well-knowledgeable of the game from start to end-game

I will just admit I am not good at the game and I am not the target audience of their server

Creating MA with no SP
Have to do those tiresome repeating BP for DH/Seer

[bold moss]

Make Fernon tradable between players (not just characters in storage) or allow us to obtain it on the normal server in the long run! I wish we could have Fernon on the normal server like we did with the Melonoth raid and its different pets.

[cerulean quail]

Also titles imagine you only play normal server and they start giving away more op stuffs exclusive to event server

[pale cloud]

They'll probably release them later in more cashgrab ops, just like original NosFire exclusive Living Legend IIRC was offered in the pool of prizes from Christmas Tombola

[lyric prawn]

Yes i was thinking the same pro new better title is coming

[pale cloud]

That's nothing but lack of QOL effort. They could bring a real beginner friendly event server with a progress book to walk newcomers through all early game from A3, which would be alive with a fresh start on Lvl 56.

Would it be fast progression? No, but what's the point if newcomers rush then end up lost and confused back on regular servers, have no clue about game mechanics or how to build their chars, etc.

They bait to appeal to tryhards' greed & ego, so it's all about the rush.
Imo gameplay should be about fun & teamwork.
I wish people could (re)start fresh on a new server at a sensible pace, with BP targeted for quality or smart progress or nostalgic features. Quick example: all A3/A5 crafts. They're tedious, obsolete on regular servers where there's no reason to waste lonely time on them ; yet they'd be the perfect occasion to teach newcomers about the original equipment acquisition & update ways. As well as set up objectives to rack in BP points for rewards, without penalizing anyone who skips past other than missing those points/rewards. Or the opportunity for returnees to skip the "tutorial progress book" at first until the point where they lost touch with the game, then complete extra BP quests once they've already built a stronger character & provide a market for that equipment / their mats.

There's real possibilities to bring the fun back to early game without colliding with end-game servers' interests, rather than speed & ditch it all.

With incentives to play early content on fresh servers, the economy builds itself up with decent equipment that'll let them actually catch up once they transfer, even if it's not at C60+ already.
Not faster, just smarter. People would actually learn a thing about Nostale, what to enjoy, what to look for in equipment intelligently, how to raid strategically in teams who give a damn about their teammates, ...

Begging & servicing for carry in CLvl content after a tedious A3 quest grind on speed-boosters, that's no improvement over desolated early progression in regular servers. It's just more of the same crap condensed.

[neon lance]

I'm sure someone will read this epic

[hallow bolt]

Hope they'll give more triple xp because randoms won't finish this server

[shadow dirge]

I hope not so randoms maybe stop get baited

[novel harbor]

Hello, gonna check

[novel harbor]

Hello, can't really tell if something is being considered to be changed, since I don't get that information in advance, but the thread is being monitored and we're actively sharing your feedback

[novel harbor]

Slower how? Cause of other people playing preventing from crafting stuff or defeating mobs? Or how exactly?

[novel harbor]

It's crafts, not bottles, so 1 craft of 10 bottles means 1/50

[shut cedar]

You can be stuck pre c10 if you are like a "normal" player I think we mean both and not only that ppl is stuck in erenia raid and some ppl are starting to do the "erenias service raid" you pay to one person 2-3kk then they win you the raid but that should not be like that way also some ppl is scaming others with the "erenias service raid" I think

[nova pilot]

As previously said, if people are struggling with erenia it's their fault for not playing correctly, you have every tool at your disposal to win the raid (act4 / ibrahim eq, potions, pets).

Some people make you pay for your incompetence basically, if you don't want to play correctly then you can pay people to do the job for you,

[nova pilot]

Poeple think it's slower because they have to quest instead of brainless exp 24/7, nosfire progression book gave eqs for free with no quest once you get to the levels

[red verge]

Currently I am 3 days ahead compared to my adventure on NosFire but the trend will perhaps reverse now that there is no longer triple exp

[nova pilot]

I think the main problem people have is the 6 week notice, the server should be extended by 2 weeks minimum i think

[shut cedar]

Yeah okay man I know you maybe have your own group and you play with your 15 friends but try to go channel 1 and do like 45 raids and after 8 hours you win your first erenia but you have spent a lot of your money and resources

of course some of us know how to play what do you mean

people just dont want to use potions ofc but idk what can I say there

[red verge]

Just take people with equipment and potions like top teams do

if you have lv56 equipment and you think you should win erenia just pay 3kk someone

[nova pilot]

Just don't take leachers then, if they don't wanna get correct eq and potion you just kick them, seems logical to me

[novel harbor]

There will be more triple XP

[novel harbor]

I'll insist on this point

[shut cedar]

this too for sure

[hallow bolt]

Not nerfing Erenia and Zenas for some days was a problem too.

[prisma nymph]

Thanks for the answer, hopefully there are some changes to be added soon

[rancid current]

Is this normal that i craft 50 full pot but it only counter 5 ? @novel harbor for the bp ??

[novel harbor]

It's 50 crafting operations, not 50 items crafted

So it counts the 5 crafts of 50 bottles

[rancid current]

For only 40 point ?!! What a prank

Ty for answering btw 🙂

[shut cedar]

Like all the new NosVersary server

[snow rune]

try to find some raids, i dont see as much as in the other nosfire servers

[shut cedar]

no one is almost hosting erenias raid now just the "erenia service raids"

[snow rune]

im not only talking about erenia, i see no elemental raids, or others

[shut cedar]

From the creators of "Erenias win service" here comes all the raids now 😂

[shut cedar]

yeah thats true not really a lot of raids in new sv also

[snow rune]

i dont know what to say anymore, the server shows the darkest side of people's character :x

[shut cedar]

yeah but that has been since the start of this game nothing new but this server specially boost them

more ppl feedback I hope you do something its not only here in discord its in the game too 👍

and now this first the erenias and after they are gonna do it with all the raids and c55 equipment its at 50kk at this moment so if you are a normal person or you come back to this game or you are new what can you do

[red verge]

Archer is the new martial artist

[dusk sorrel]

Martial artists are speeding this server hard eh

[void laurel]

xD

[sacred tapir]

No other weekly missions than "do fernon 8 times for 20 points" ?

[fiery lichen]

Comlpete 15 minigame raids.
its the most stupid task cause it said "Comlpete", not "win"
wont tell about dodge meteor cause it will eliminate losers
but in sheep farm and bushi king defence its really bad
cause ever how active u playing at it, as long as u dont have enough action point then it wont count as "Comlpete"
in bushi king, u need 160 action point and win to count as "Comlpete", and if u have 160 action point but lose, it wont count, so basically u just waste time for nothing
and most of time its duration is not enough for every player to get enough action point
sheep farm is another dumb design, cause even i having like 20 kill in sheep, and 6 kill in the wolf(player)
but i has been killed by other player more than i kill so i have negative scores, and then system will just say im lose and not counting i as "Comlpete"
bro, what u mean? i completed finish the entire minigame and was active, but just by this stupid system judgment it wont count
and not to mention that the problem for long time ago and still never been fix, the tamer level up effect just exposure you to everyone in sheep farm minigame that make u being a clear target, and thats why everyone just hunting me and someone else that also doing tamer training pet so we cant never "Comlpete" it

So I requested very strongly:

1. Cancel the level up effect on player when doing tamer sp training pet

2.Change the system judgment logic that not counting action point

• Bushi King Defence : Based on the number of attacks hits launched by the player [A and S key]
• Sheep Farm : Based on the number of kills by the player ( Sheep and Wolf)

so that can let active players that are really "Complete", but not only count when only "Win"

[lyric prawn]

I think they need to delete minigames

[fiery lichen]

tbh there are lots of thing is out date
and they wanna bring them alive through the battle pass or others
but they never fix/update for those things
so ppl do it just for the bp task and its still like a sh!t

action point was should be prevent alts abuse or afk
but most of them working in the bad way

[lyric prawn]

They alrdy had a remake for those minigames, they just have to remove them nobody wants them .

[fiery lichen]

i dont think they did "remake"
they just delete the raid seal and put it at fixed time in ch1/2

[lyric prawn]

Anyways i dont even play the game but it is triggering me so much. Xd

[frosty nebula]

Yep. And it has pro and cons. We cant open it whenever we want so we cant rush the quest

We dont have to deal with useless loot tho

[fiery lichen]

that is not the problem i want to talk about, the main problem i am talking is the action point working bad in those mini game
so sometime even you are really playing active and u still wont be countting as "Comlpete"

like with 20 kill in sheep and 6 kill to wolf, but if ur score is -5, u wont be count as "Comlpete" the minigame

and the bushi king is just not enough time to get enough action point if too many players

[nova pilot]

Putting mini games and "Fish 500 times" on battle pass is just a middle finger to people, it's omega boring and useless

[fiery lichen]

fishing sp u mean? i agree

watching that little stick for all days just make my eyes pain

and then i found out, other ppl fishing with me in the same map all using bot, cause even someone lure mobs to us and they still no reaction

[teal talon]

They could make the fishing SP a million times more bearable by doing the literal same FF14 did, they added a visual cue in form of exclamation marks on top of the rod shaking lmao, having a "!" appear when you can reel hurts nobody and just makes the game more playable

[prisma nymph]

I got up to lvl 25 fishing sp when I didn’t have the skin, because I could look at the fishing pole and it was obvious when a fish had bit, then I changed to the skin and that visual indicator disappeared and I have fished less and less even since XD

[red verge]

Personally, I won't be doing the "Fish 600 times" mission in the BP.
I'm not a bot

But it can be a good alternative for players who have difficulty doing other missions

There's only one mission I completely disagree with so far.
It's the one to complete 50 Laurenas on a server where we're given SP8.

I wouldn't even have done 10 Laurenas to be honest.

I don't see ANYONE doing this one

[fiery lichen]

i would perfer to add sound effect like "din" sound in pokemon

[fiery lichen]

Laurena is not a problem, problem is they add damage cap in few years ago which is super dumb

make the raid is dead just cause want to prevent gold farming with it

not sure how about after UD merge
but when INT-Valehir or even US-Cylloan
there are a time that impossible for some new player to get a fresh sp8 if they want
cause raid is dead, and most player didnt have more fresh sp8 left cause no way to get it for

[red verge]

Yeah the only way to get sp8 is now to play on new servers

[teal talon]

Ideally it's both for accessibility reasons, I have deaf friends that hate it when games have mechanic cues that are audio only
A ding for fish on the line would be great, maybe move it over from the obnoxious jingle we hear when upgrading SPs/gear that are completely unncecessary lmao

[azure kestrel]

they legit don't use fairy boost and atk pots

[nova pilot]

"PLEASE GF NERF ERENIA TOO HARD"

• lvl 55 eq
• No potion, boosts, dolls

[hallow bolt]

Skill issue.

[fiery lichen]

for real, even i did with 81lv eqs(ma without a5 fist) but its still very painful

wont say its too hard like impossible
but yes its little bit too hard for that level of eqs

[fast hinge]

People made it after A6 release with same A5 eq, without boosts like 15% dmg pet, but newbies are trying to do it with starter eq (56lvl) thats wrong.

[fiery lichen]

im talking with the a5 eqs, but problem is we only have a5 eqs
without enough time to make shell, sp, resis...etc

yes, we still can done it, but with pain and hardcore low fault tolerance

but ye, some ppl with 56lv eqs thats 100% their problem ofc

[split pawn]

they got r7+8 with good shell weapons and +15 cards buddy

[true basin]

is it only for the first team that completes it or is it like task from progress book? Everyone who manage to do it will be rewarded?

It says complete 200xfernon raid before 31.10

[fiery lichen]

should be everyone i guess

[teal talon]

Everyone but good luck hitting it

[fast hinge]

At the A6 release r7 eq and sp+15 were really expensive, people need focus and enough potions for this raid, thats it

[sacred tapir]

But they still have at least sp +12/13, with 5.2 gears +7 (not necessary the old lv96 craftable but 92/93 from the raids) or even fake one and shells, even if not r7 they had SL and some other boost. The conditions were definetly not the same than on nosversary

[unkempt void]

We agree that martial artists have a bit of a problem with pass 3 and 4.

[fiery lichen]

u mean sp7 8 box?

better just sell it if there are anyone looking for it

[cerulean quail]

server so short feels like already too late to start after 2nd week of launch

[daring sluice]

How can i find event sw main quest finish reward?

[nova pilot]

Good job for doing the 2 week extension and extra caligor/fernon they were needed for people to make mini fernons pet achivments

[rose path]

[main stump]

[hallow plank]

[novel harbor]

Thank you!

We're also extending the Battle Pass of course

[vapid latch]

what about celestial spire mission ? It's disabled since a long time now. Will you change the mission or give 100pts to all ?

[novel harbor]

Will ask about it, I can't tell right now because I don't know

[azure kestrel]

when revenant paimon boxes were nerf like that ? 15 boxes and only 1 r8 and only sh!t in it, I got better loot in 5 boxes last year

[brave aspen]

Give celestiar spire 100bp for free if it stay like that for another month

[sacred sigil]

@novel harbor we need asgobas raid achievement nerf or extend too

bcs if we doesn't start soon we can't do it

[wet cedar]

xd

i love gameforge

[novel harbor]

Won't stay like this for another month, no worries xD

[novel harbor]

Get started then!

[half isle]

Still too Hard in that short ammount of time

[red verge]

100 asgobas is a lot indeed

Actually top record is 12min, so it's 20 hours of suffering

Well we will progress of course and do it quicker but it's still scary

20 days everyday

[azure kestrel]

there is 2 best moments to start thing, first time is in the past, second is now

[sterile pilot]

@novel harbor today fernon, right?

[novel harbor]

Yes

[neon lance]

When does this achievement is completed? When u claim sp11 from npc or u complete a9.2 quest line? @novel harbor

[novel harbor]

This is to complete the questline

[neon lance]

so this questline ends after i claim sp11 or after ultimate arma raid?

[novel harbor]

After you complete the questline

So you click the button in the quest that finishes the quest

[neon lance]

ye i checked there is no ultimate arma needed to finish this quest xdd

[rose path]

first people to do it are f*****

[red verge]

Giving random anniversary medal (15 days) in daily gift is a bit unfair

The buff it gives is as strong as top titles

[cloud bear]

People are using ND in NosVersary and then trading the gold back to their own servers

and it's destroying the economy of the regular players, there's a big inflation going on because of that

It's my first limited-time server, does it always happen ?

[brave aspen]

yes

[cloud bear]

damn it's tough for the actual players there

[fiery lichen]

The ppl that buy gold in event server, they eventually will spam them anyway

[azure kestrel]

U complain for the wrong reason. Inflation is because there is a lot of ppl starting to play a8 atm so price are getting higher bcs ppl make more gold too

[fiery lichen]

And cause perma x2 gold

sooner enter the late PVE content, the more you can get

[brave aspen]

90k gold each drop is insane. You can make 100kk in 6 hours of alza

[novel harbor]

I always read about new ways to earn gold cause it's very difficult, but when it's easy looks like people are unhappy as well

[fiery lichen]

Mostly because the best way to earn gold are late game stuff
So those rich/high level player get more rich
And low level / slow progress player are even hard to catching up

[brave aspen]

It's unhappy who can't farm the same content

[fiery lichen]

Like the gold cut from aot/ic below 80lv(but ye i know its for prevent alts and bot spam

In my experience and what i saw, the ppl at 65-80 is most poor
From 80lv start to get gold in ic but thats it
Untill c30/55+ u anit have much way tonget gold but selling stuff u farm

Cause with c10/25 eqs most of raid is still very hard unless good team work

Thats why we saw lots of player paying for erania kiro win for the quest

Cause they cant pass that stage and can only waiting for high level players help(but they will ask for pay

actually im thinking, is it possible to open all event raid on every rush event server?
i think u has did that in first nosfire before?
even its not much but at least there are some content can let the players falling behind or slow progress have something to farm with but not just only yerti all the time(btw i didnt even see any yerti raid in list

[fiery lichen]

@novel harbor

[novel harbor]

Afaik some event raid portals are placed in the same spot at NosVille

Those couldn't be on simultaneously

[fiery lichen]

does i remember wrong or its private server, i think i have saw some image like a special maps with diff portals for diff event raid

its like a portal at port alveus square
and inside that map have diff portals at each direction

[fiery lichen]

something like this ( cant find any image

and the seal could make a npc there trade with... event text "YN" and "18"?

[red verge]

Something like this happened but it was before NosFire

Maybe int1?

Tbh it was not that good, slow players were even more late on the server because they were busy doing event raids

[azure kestrel]

The problem is that more u prevent for gold abuse, more u nerf players. In this server, there was good ways to make gold. What changes from Nosfire server is that a lot of ppl left cause of the bad start that made a lot of ppl struggle while organized team where never blocked. If ppl can pay to have their raid win, the problem is not in the gold

And having less people + can keep all items = bad economy bcs a lot don’t want to sell things cheap if u can keep it to next server

[dusk sorrel]

I think the main issue is people not having the patience to grind

And the know how to effectively f2p gold farm

Like, if you dont whale there is no reason to try and rush to be the first

You would run dry of resources way too early

Champagne tastes beer pockets or however the saying goes

I ran 1+2 A2, took longer to clear and farm seeds for all to do ts but

Had more gold from it to continue

Then after paying for erenia had C10 gear so I lvled the alts in LOD

1+2 IC A6 Elite bacoom and zealot farming, cleared the whole A5.1 which doesnt have reduced gold rewards for 25kk per chara

[azure kestrel]

legit the plan

[dusk sorrel]

You can either whale or alt to success

Solo works only if you get lucky drops

Like dh or seer first days from caligor

As much as people hate on whales, they forget that they pave the way forward to follow and sell nosmall items you otherwise have to buy yourself

The unfortunate truth of the situation

[azure kestrel]

whale impact isn't the same as mobile games too. U can pay and stay behind too

[dusk sorrel]

Whale speedrunners, correction

A.k.a "WTB dense dragon breath"

Those doing A9 raids now, in other words

[fiery lichen]

Increased gold drops but lower than late content for gold farming to get started

[proper crow]

lf raid discord

[azure kestrel]

They already nerf gold drop in lower content because high lvl players were farming it alone and doing more gold an hour than late game content

remember that they divide gold from Erenia/Zenas/Fernon and event raids bcs of that

they even nerf zenas by making NPC more tank

It's like this Laurena x50 in BP, they nerfed it so hard that now 50 laurena would take days bcs u can't farm it faster after u got max damage. They didn't adjust it later and now it's just a trash raid that is done a bit for new servers and left again.

There is more complain about other players having more bcs they farm than the game itself who has major problems

[fiery lichen]

i mean from those event raid, cause they had huge nerf it long time ago

[half isle]

[dark prawn]

pozhilayaopg has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[sterile pilot]

I would suggest banning gold exchange between servers for the next event server.

[tiny phoenix]

So ppl are already c90? I though server was bad cause u had to do act2 questline 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[magic willow]

[tiny phoenix]

U finished the ragebait ?

[magic willow]

Still stuck on act2 quest bro

[tiny phoenix]

[solemn chasm]

was this legit

[shut cedar]

I think the same XD

[solemn chasm]

1h50 without C90 EQ and on multiple TS with 16+ killrooms

I smell foul play

[kind oar]

yes it was

[celest fox]

look now 🫡

[kind oar]

we just beat it by 5s

[azure kestrel]

When news about this ?

[umbral kernel]

nice xd they removed all exp event from nv

[cobalt berry]

Errr.. shouldn't we go back to x2 Event?

[magic willow]

2x Exp deleted gg guys

[void laurel]

gg

xDDD cmon wanted to c80 now wtf

[magic willow]

Refund server 2 days x3 exp

[void laurel]

yes

[half isle]

where double exp

[void laurel]

Nice management of the sv xD

[cobalt berry]

They follow up Exp Event with 100% increased reason to go sleep Event 🥀

[shut cedar]

Sleep event x2 hahaa

[azure kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-fishing-lake-pond-boat-gif-9638578035609960749

[novel harbor]

Whenever there are news to share

[azure kestrel]

Yeah sure but still got 100 free BP points locked and it’s frustrating

[shut cedar]

rt

Maybe you should give a compensation to players

[novel harbor]

We're forwarding your concerns about this topic. If there is any decision on that, we will let you know

[pale cloud]

This was done twice in 2021 & 2022 for the launch of the International servers, INT2(?) & Asgobas, both in August.
They ran as the original "NosVersaries"

• Special all-event raid portals map
• All or several event raids live at once, there were weekly BP achievements that reset with a new event raid objective each time, besides dailies & other progression/rankings challenges.
• BP rewards were exclusively NosJewels, which was the brand new currency then, to trade for a wider Jewels market than nowadays' permanent one.
• There was the kicker: no event drops were active, event quests neither. Raid seals were free from Nosmall.

It was Maru without oils, Chicken Queen without free life eggs, Foxy without bottles, …

Yet teams ran them consistently way better than they ever do on regular servers, where everyone only ever cares about the individual fastest pay-out. There was incentive to truly play as teams, common objectives, a reasonable time and a reasonable raid counts to achieve daily, it was all about strategy & communication, we seldom lost any raids & the mood was delightful.
They took longer than with items & solo-mentalities, but it was hell of a lot more fun. Less trolls, less bullies, less selfishness.
Lola Lopears & Mad Prof Macavity were deactivated, for some technical reasons, but all other event raids to-date ran great.
One or both edition were set to last 2 months, then were extended for another month.

All-event-raids servers were the most & best fun I've ever had in this game, as well as the worst disappointment to witness that amazing concept derail into cash-grab ops like NosJewels Tombola or NosFire & Cie.

IIRC the jewels market didn't even sell anything too amazing, fairies at best I think? But it was 100% free fun.
There was also permanent double everything (exp, gold, fxp, …) + the try-hards challenges (first SPs, best times, highest rankings, …) & players did build up their chars as well to reach the objectives, it was a truly alive server.

Quite sadly, ephemeral. What killed them was the community had long gotten used to the cycle of new launch then merge after 6 months, re-launch… which ultimately led to the state Valehir was in, until the last yet again recent merge into Undercity.
Every time the BP event ended, everyone knew & expected the merge, so they couldn't see the point to push their brand new characters in a tough burgeoning market, only to end up back where they started half a year later, alongside their original characters, on the same old server, forever on life support where they'd already efforted themselves so much to progress.
So every time BP ended, new server was instantly deserted. That cycle was an egg & chicken deal: GF ultimately merged cuz server was dead, server went dead cuz players knew GF would merge sooner or later, there were no expectations for any permanent or improved server or any QOL worth to truly move their whole gameplay to a new server & leave everything else they'd achieved behind.
Strategically, the only & whole point was to grind the jewels, grab the prizes… then wait for the transfer to pass them all onto their original server's main.

Imo character transfer set with BP was a neat idea… but it went the wrong way.

• New to old served no purpose, other than grab the prizes, this much was true
• But temporary servers were the next worst idea: players deserting the new server/character (so basically new server shutdown) didn't happen out of a genuine wish to play this way. It was lack of foresight and QOL invested that caused this sad fact.
• A real choice & incentive as BP reward would've been to bring an old character onto the new server & continue to play there, pretty much in the same way it's done from NosEvents to regular servers currently.
  That'd have been sensible, rather than push to try-hard & rush at an insane pace just to unlock the right to bring all that investment onto the regular servers, where they don't amount to much, players dawdle & find no more excitement, until the next bait server.

This system only fuelled the old pattern: regular servers are on life support, event servers are never about newcomers or new life, it only baits egos & quick-cash aspirations, which it mostly disappoints save for the top 10 no-lifes, burns out everyone…

At this point, Undercity merge might as well have been titled: INT-NosAshes.

[pale cloud]

Well this feedback is half towards NosVersary & Cie, half towards this old server design & together, it's become a suggestion: https://discord.com/channels/628543142819528714/1427680641780285590

[red verge]

Actually, INT1 was too successful for a nostale server, and they weren't ready. They tried to take advantage of it by launching INT2 right away. This killed INT1, and players, furious at GF, stopped playing. As fantastic as INT1 was as a community, we have to remember that this server is the source of all the gold generation nerfs : I saw fishing bots everywhere, speedhack in broad daylight act4 and TS73 automaton (another reason why valehir was dead is that it inherited this economy)

But in my opinion, at the time, players didn't understand how new servers work: they were hoping for a new server in the long term. Since it can't exist due to lack of new players, we can only have an event server, which they understood with the concepts of nosfire and oasis.
At least, it's not hypocritical, we know where we're going now. The only downside is that most nostale players are really behind and didn't understand the game past level 85 (it's not their fault, they stopped playing after SP8) so they can't complete the Battle Pass.
The problem is that the server is so powerful that we can store thousands of valuable items in six weeks and create an infinite number of alts. So they need to decide between destroying economy or restricting casual players.
Unfortunately there is not much that can be done, there is too big a gap between the players.

[dusk sorrel]

Players, Payers, Botters, Alters, take your pick

[pale cloud]

Thanks for actually reading all that

I doubt the nerfs, hacks, alt farms & bots waited 2021 to overrun Nostale.
But I clearly wasn't looking their way back in the all-event raids days, I'll admit.

To me that was daily, proper fun until BP ended & the server became so dead, there was nothing left to do but play utterly alone, or start over on the older server that was only half-alive. I hadn't realized the merge was coming, so when my first event character arrived with the newer, that felt incredibly silly & such the huge waste of time playing at all.
Second start was tedious, noone played below the latest act, economy was a disaster. Then after the tedious efforts, my first character with its jewels prizes got merged with the second, making everything I'd done since useless except to stack the same gear, same everything I'd achieved, double the waste.
That truly was disgusting enough to stop playing. So in that sense, I suppose advertising right away that the char will end up on older server, that's honesty.

Yet I don't think flash servers will ever be a good idea, and to me the whole point is they're going nowhere, or in circles, spiralling in to the void.
Same top players who rack some benefits, same reason there's no true incentive for new players: it's all a smokescreen with a heavy price in real currency, sleep, IRL time & energy, no real pay-out back on regular servers (even if they manage to transfer).

Imo that old event server system, as a true permanent release, with anniversary BP & some more consistent advertising, that'd be a viable way to offer players with the very different game styles, rather than forever argue about what's good or bad about the game.
End VS early game, PvE VS PvP, novelty VS nostalgia, …

Then to be perfectly honest, imo another key point for that model to succeed, would be reinstate the no-alt accounts policy, on the new server. Allow them only on the oldie servers / once the newest server stalls into end-game.

Let the old server veterans have that solo-minded fun, but that's ruined the game so badly for any newcomer or returnee, it's a shame.
There'll be offenders, then they should get the ban.
Meanwhile, people who'd like to play a true multi-player Nostale, would have the chance again.

Considering the game launcher itself is now built to enable alt accounts…
I don't imagine that suggestion could go anywhere, even restricted to a new kind of servers while allowed on oldies where it wouldn't penalize people who make it a playstyle, or rather because on the technical side I doubt they'd tackle any sort of alternate parallel game launcher…
But that's smthg I truly wish I could see happen

[azure kestrel]

@novel harbor can u check about master trainer achievement too ? My friend completed it yesterday but we don't see him and he got no rewards

[novel harbor]

Is it updated now?

[real cape]

still 0/10 on the achievement site

[azure kestrel]

The site is updated but not this achievement specificly

[novel harbor]

It's being checked 🙂

[azure kestrel]

Thanks 🙂

[sterile pilot]

SUNDAY FERNON need:
x2 DPS and 1WK
65+ eq screen only
3 akashik / 1h
17 and 20 time
wisp me screen eq i add you in team

[azure kestrel]

This fairy event is really diabolical

[vapid latch]

Upgrade events seems to be like 1 week too early each time ( except for tatoo)

• Upgrade Item 6 day after opening server ( only few people had c55 equip)
• Double box ( a lot of people were C30 but cant rly farm good raid act7/8)
• fusing specialist is a joke btw
• now fairy ??

I think you surestimate a little the global progression of the server

[azure kestrel]

The real scam is saying it will be the best server to upgrade a char when u do event for an elite of 50 ppl

[split pawn]

yes every event(exept tatto) was conviniently few days before majority of ppl could use it. What a joke

well server dead anyway

[dusk sorrel]

They pander to the whale audience

[rapid hearth]

Well also Tattoo event was too early since we couldnt do sky tower for 2 weeks, so no daily fernon crystals

[shadow dirge]

[magic willow]

50 ppl Is already the Total amount of players in this newserver

[fast hinge]

Well they gave up on checking for bots on the server, seeing same characters selling stacks of "legally" farmed potions. Many of them are even farming fernon seals on caligor raid, walking in lines (like 20+ chars doing the same) on holy mages and getting points just by healing. But whatever, the important thing is that the server is profitable.

[magic willow]

x3 xp for rest of server weekends please

[raven valve]

4x

[novel harbor]

We did not give up in checking bots. But the team just doesn't have the resources to clean up everything in a reasonable amount of time. They do what they can.

[hallow stag]

i could maybe excuse namaju cuz it takes more effort and preparation, but the other 3 raids were just 10 holys with no eq needed and one person just got 3x10 pets
"well you couldve done this too and be faster" not my point. its just sad to see a view like this

[fast hinge]

its enough to stay at caligor raid while weekend, there are many of them

[kind oar]

are there any plans on adjusting the catacombs fastest floor -15 achivement?

[shadow dirge]

[hallow stag]

yeah if you dont join in the first few seconds you will never get in because someone had to log in their 100 holy mages constantly using buffs at spawn waiting to be slaughtered like pigs
and you dont even get their holy buffs because there are so many of them they hit aoe target cap

[half isle]

I was about to ask on sunday if caligor is dead as i saw like 40 active Player and could not join my 1 alt for seal and fernons 1+1 because of caligor area full

[half isle]

Xdd

[rancid current]

@novel harbor if we already perfectionned our sp do we get a refund ?

[novel harbor]

Let's focus on finding out what's going on first

[rancid current]

Okok 😢

[shut cedar]

would be good not gonna lie, I already bought like 180 sp 11 gems

[proper crow]

rollback please

[cerulean quail]

Prism isn’t at office to see backend code?

[true basin]

Can we do anything about 100% lifestyle event on nosversary? There was 100% bonus since the server started

so now we dont have any event for weekend on event server 😄

[prime hemlock]

feeling like a abandoned dog

[rancid current]

LIKE x3

[shut cedar]

so now its perma lifestyle also too till 19th november? that means we dont have active events this weekend for the moment

[raven jay]

yup

[tulip salmon]

the battle pass is really hard to complete within the time available is there any possibility the requirement to transfer will be reduced..? Not to mention 7.2 Tower was disabled for so long...

[azure kestrel]

BP is easier than u think, u just have to play

[tulip salmon]

too much

[wet saddle]

The problem is how some missions are time gated and/or impossible to do without serious grind (ex. You are working a lot and/or have Your own family) - I started on the day of launch, but due to both reasons above could not play much early on and by the time I finished a4 most fams did not even do LoD anymore (so had to grind 85 with quests).
A6 help with questing? barely a chance
Any real fams? C30+ req

Few missions require You to clear A7/8/9 for points, one raid mission requires C10 (raids) but You usually need higher to be accepted for maras, 80+ mission doesn't count draco raids, so You need to do glacerus for 30 days straight (or shove in ibras or the a5 raids on top with decent eq) to fulfill, etc.
From what I've checked I can hit the 750 BP barely on time now, though it's still not exactly certain (ex. the combat arena is nigh impossible for me as I can't hop in at 7/10 pm to do them despite it being a quite easy mission)
Glacernon kills are either You are geared by now or try luck hunting alts (without combat arena and caligors)

[azure kestrel]

The problem is that u have priorities and if you can't invest time in the game but you still want to play, you just pick the wrong game/server. Ngl i saw a friend in nosfire having her account deleted bcs she hadn't the BP points. But when u are not even acte 7/8 in a month, the problem comes from you. It's legit 10/15 hours of playing.

[celest fox]

Event server is made for achievements, 1-2 months and out, if you don't have time to play on it, just dont.

[fast hinge]

You got 2 weeks more, to complete it

[tulip salmon]

not enough!!!

[hallow stag]

yeah i love when a faction im in doesn't get rewards because 80% of it are holys spamming heals in spawn

[fast hinge]

what is not enough, to transfer your character?

you need to get c65 and spam a8 raids, do some cps, eventually get your hamster till 6* and the job is done

[true basin]

Will gold be transfered to another server, or items only?

[novel harbor]

Gold as well

[tulip salmon]

any hope the requirement to transfer will be reduced?

[novel harbor]

Not planned, no

[true basin]

will this server be extended again or ~20th of november is final date?

[novel harbor]

19th* November is the end date

No more extensions

[rapid hearth]

@novel harbor love to hear that you were able to fix the pp issue!
Could you share any info in what regard the affected players get compensated?

Are you able to track the failed attemps/used stones?
Or can you just do something simple like "everyone who perfected during time xy gets z melon stones"?

[novel harbor]

I don't have further details on the number or how they were calculated

All I know is what Prism shared in #💬│mimis-debate-team, which suggest a proportion of the used stones will be refunded

[kind oar]

any nosversary achivement rewards so we can actually enjoy them before the server ends?

[true basin]

Can you at least extend exp event to monday 23:59 as compensation? Some ppl werent sleeping and wasted their time without 3 x exp event and they wont be able to benefit as much from this one

[novel harbor]

Those who don't sleep at 4 AM, they're probably awake at 4 AM again right?

Or what do you mean?

[true basin]

Nooo I cant insult people here xd

Idk maybe they took day off at work or something xd

And we didnt get any event this week on EVENT server

[rancid current]

Yeah but some people get their week end since friday so i think thats what he meant

[zealous ermine]

but maybe some people took a day off for xp

[kind oar]

Did you consider making some sort of “transfer faq” post soon? Still many people asking about that

[void laurel]

Please very important thing tbh

[void laurel]

. @novel harbor

[novel harbor]

Yes

It'll be posted this week

[azure kestrel]

when perf event ? we had a date before, is it secret now ?

[novel harbor]

It'll be announced whenever possible

[rancid current]

Before the end of serv ?

[dark blade]

Yes Daveius confirmed it will be before the end of the server

[true basin]

so event will be extended by 5 years

[naive marsh]

is there any list of the achievements to do? and any speculation about the time per day that we have to play to achive that

[storm leaf]

Yes

[naive marsh]

is altrady shown somewhere?

[silent flare]

What arę u pierdoling