Arena

[cerulean lake]

The suggestion is simple, once again I come to give a suggestion regarding PvP content.

Eliminate the entry with buffs in 'normal arena' just like in 'glory arena'. This will stop the abuse of having 14 alters for buffs and the abuse of PSP buffs (Chloe, Lucy, Freya...). Also, add a cooldown to the portal to prevent quick leaves, as happens in 'glory arena'. Potions and food will still be allowed, it doesn't make sense to have two identical arenas.

This will lead to a healthier and fairer competition in the arena for everyone. While it may end up changing the arena, there's a saying: "You can't kill something that's already dead". The difference it will have with 'glory arena' is that in 'normal arena', if the group is allowed, potions and food are allowed, partners and pets are still enabled, and of course, within the same 'normal arena', you can receive buffs from your group.

Anyone who considers themselves a clean PvP player will agree that this will benefit us all. Of course, those who are dissatified with this are likely to be a good chloe's abuser and buffs.

I look forward to everyone's opinions, whether they are in favor or against.

[feral robin]

Against, normal arena should stay as it is rn, just make a rework on Chloe buff, but if there’s no room for buffs in pvp where’s the point, we all use buffs for everything else, just go glory if you don’t want to play with buffs/pets, but this arena works fine rn, there’s no point in having 2 glory arena

[cerulean lake]

Tlyn its been years since you played arena, you only do Raids. There's no point in using all the buffs in the game for fight. I agree on a a rework for chloe.

[feral robin]

I just see you standing on stairs while the others are playing but I’m not going to go in that discussion rn. What I do or how I play, if I play, it’s my business. What I said it’s that there’s no point on having 2 instances with same rules, then for what would you like to have 2??? Glory arena is intended for 1v1, normal arena to have fun, if you think that to have fun you can’t use buffs just stay in glory, there’s no point in complaining about normal arena instead of complaining about Chloe. Or, what’s a better idea, don’t go to normal arena if you don’t want to play against Chloe enjoyers till Entwell makes a rework on it

[cerulean lake]

Yeah, you don't want to lose the hours you spent leveling 20 alters to 90, right? Make sure you check who you're looking at, because i don't usually play arena, i go there rarely. If for you 'normal and glory' are the same just for removing the external buffs and adding the cd in portal it means you haven't taken even a minute to read the suggestion

[feral robin]

Literally they’re the same if you remove the buffs and you add cd to the portal, I’m not evaluating how do the other players deal with it or how they play the game, so stop of trying to take it personal. The only difference between Glory and Arena is the buffs and the CD(ignoring the bugs that exist in glory), if you add those 2 “mechanics/rules” you’ll transform arena into another Glory. The suggestion is stupid, just ask directly if they can remove arena🤣.

[gray anchor]

I would suggest to only remove chloe, removing buffs and portal would mostly nerf the noobs and make people use alt in safe space and buff anyway

Chloe should disappear tho, its unfun for both ppl getting sniped and snipers

[cerulean lake]

Wait, i didn't know that fun refers to entering, hitting for 15 sec and then leaving the arena. It makes 0 sense for you to comment here when you don't even play arena LOL. I'll assume i'm right in saying that it would frustate you to lose all the hours you spent leveling 20 alters to 90 and the best part is that you're defending a mechanic that should have never existed in this game

[feral robin]

You're talking about how did I played, not about your suggestion. I’ll reply the same, with your own words.
“Delete buffs in Normal Arena at same way as in Glory Arena”
You admitted it in your same suggestion that you want to add the 2 rules/mechanics that are making the essential difference between both instances.
In arena everything is allowed, if you want 1v1 go to glory.

[cerulean lake]

you still haven't read the entire suggestion. Actually, there's something i was wrong about, and is that the 'psp lucy' will still be abusable, it's impossible to close all the loopholes for cheating and dirty play. If your biggest concern about this suggestion is: "Oh no, i won't be able to use all the buffs i've leveled up, or i won't be able to hit one combo without bein able to quickly exit before getting killed" the problem is yours for not gearing up properly for pvp. I invite you to return to pvp and play the same as you defend, i assure you that in two weeks you'll agree with me. That said, one thing we all agree on is that a suggestion to remove Chloe should be made

[feral robin]

As I said, still pointless, there's nothing wrong on using buffs (you dont need lv90 chars to get good buffs, mostly they're weapon optimization, crit rate, crit dmg, etc, just wolf buff and a little bit more buffs), the only buff which breaks the game-mechanic is the chloe one. The suggestion might be rework that buff to be lv5 or higher to make it impossible to steal with Eliza.
As soon as they dont rework the RNG in this game, the 5s stun, etc. its not worth to play PvP.

[cerulean lake]

In the end you've decided to speak like a normal person, responding to everything else. You don't need alters 90 to have good buffs, i mention the lv because you need it to spam act 6. And not everyone can have the perfect shell (that's why they use buffs) and PvP if it's 1v1 is still fun as long as it's without tattoos

[left spruce]

they have stated that this will not happen, because "there are people who enjoy this playstyle"

[cerulean lake]

Where did they put that?

[grim verge]

1% players which are the one spending 5-10k a month in nds (and that's why they are listening them and not others)

[feral robin]

Sure, the football clubs listen to the fans who pay the ticket to go to watch the game in the stadium, not to those ones who watch it in free websites

[grim verge]

You can't be comparing that and a game, you wouldn't have p2w players if the f2p player base would be gone (95% of the player base), servers would be empty and so p2w players wouldn't have any reason to pay anything

[boreal salmon]

No

play in glory if you don't need buffs , etc + already there was suggestion about that and it won't happen , this is how normal arena works ( no fair 1v1 and chaos )

[languid pulsar]

Remove Chloe or nerf Eliza totally agreed on that

[cerulean lake]

@feral robin He already suggested that and only received criticism (i can confirm this myself because i saw it)

[candid seal]

why it makes 0 sense for him to comment when you say you rarely play arena urself...?

[fringe sinew]

I can say 100% that the person who opened the topic didnt or couldnt enter the arena xD
btw,I laughed so hard when I saw this funny topic, thank you xd

[floral basin]

arena competition is based on gentleman agreement in the end...
Not sure if that needs to be regulated by taking away things you could actually do there