Summer Oasis Server

[naive falcon]

money grab ...

[plush frost]

Ye for sure in a server that will be merged to dead Valehir? Nosfire would grant them 10x more money than Oasis will if that’s even enough xD

[naive falcon]

money grab , without affecting the economy of a server where they already earn a lot

because it's obvious that valehir won't be saved because of Oasis

[plush frost]

Ye and it’s obvious that even a 20% happy hour will grant more than entire Oasis server in 6 weeks. It’s not a smart marketing strategy to open Oasis instead of classic Nosfire

And you can see at the rewards they try to get new players to that server so Valehir is getting new players. But we all know the trap isn’t working as it should

[naive falcon]

iam not sure 20% happy hour they get more money than an new server

[exotic granite]

I mean no one is forced to play on the server but for sure there will be now a lot of people and after 2 weeks it starts with wts money here for dv or other servers 🤷‍♀️ theachievement will go to the biggest money and best no life guys 🤔 but yeah no one is forced in playing there

[deep jetty]

==

[naive falcon]

The truth is that talking won't solve anything, they already have everything planned and it certainly won't change anything through our feedback , like always

[exotic granite]

And let’s be real I chase a real new player will join this server… there is no way to reach any of this rewards as one of the best 10 players ???
So ist just the race for the best alt char on vale 😂

[vestal cave]

And Valehir itself dies more again next two months

[plush frost]

It’s not. DE/DV players already said they will grind for the rewards and sell it for their server money or just keep it in case there comes a merge in like 1 year

If they don’t limit the „powercreep“ items of that achievements it’s gg and bots will run the market

[boreal heart]

just give these poor guys tickets to server they want without gold

[jolly cave]

They won't have it

As a top rush player i can say it

If you don't nosmall, have a team of 6 and days off/jobless

you can't be top 10, even top 50

[main flame]

How do you both nosmall and jobless

[jolly cave]

And random german or DV players can't be top 10 if they didn't rush a server before

For me it's nosmall and days off

[main flame]

Alr makes sense

[gaunt hull]

Yes nosmall >> you don't have to make money and you can rush xp

[deep jetty]

After overall sword wins DV pvp tournment we have this...

[exotic granite]

100% true Money and time 👍🏻
Not more needed 😂

[gaunt hull]

And have knowledge on the game

[vestal cave]

exactly, it's just not nice
why i said this

[jolly cave]

Every servers, top 50 of the lvl ladder are same nicknames since Int 2

And same fams

[vestal cave]

and i know someone on valehir who is so close to getting master trainer title after all the time and money spent
and a random rusher would get the same

[deep jetty]

imagine you are grinding master trainer in val server and you see this ==

[gaunt hull]

@snow sandal best players win the rewards

[jolly cave]

Random germand DV or cosmos players won't be top 50, so top 10... 😂

[jolly cave]

best nosmall, jobless, botters*

[wind crypt]

real

[jolly cave]

@wind cryptlike this guy

[snow sandal]

So 5 polish botters?😄

[gaunt hull]

They have to be banned

If they bot

[jolly cave]

Imagine top 10 NosFire was full of botters and they didn't get ban

[gaunt hull]

@jolly cave it's luck

[plush frost]

Nobody is getting banned bcs of the lack of Anticheat xD except on DE server bcs they’re ahead to catch the botters, DV has too less GMs to follow ahead and Valehir is just dead so they don’t care about botters for months/years

[snow sandal]

They have to be yea,but it doesnt happen

[gaunt hull]

@snow sandal the question is why, if everyone know their cheat

I ask questions I don't have the answers

[deep jetty]

was hoping rewards to be something like rune 100% up scroll/ sth like that
then they now give away these so exclusive things that val players could not get==

[snow sandal]

Because no one cares for Vale from gf you can check ch4/ch5/ch7. Same ppl botting every day at the same time,with bought accounts

[gaunt hull]

I talked about Nosfire

[vestal cave]

jobless botters more rewarded than people who actually love and invest a lot of time and effort to the game in the long-term...
and defeating the original idea of people working hard in a specific area for a once so-very-precious, exclusive reward

[deep jetty]

I can only hope it means they are speeding up the generation to release a better title in NosMall

[gaunt hull]

So the problem is cheating, recrute GMs to ban botters

[pure nova]

I think some people won't mention names genuinely have 16h a day to play NosTale

[vestal cave]

not just that
those pvp titles, master trainer titles, very-expensive stuff etc.
it's like a slap in the face to those who got those items 'normally' on normal servers
losing their original meaning

[plush frost]

Hey fluffy don’t be so rude it’s obviously to reward those players, that grind a lot to help the state of Valehir 🤡🤡

[deep jetty]

well my fedback is there

remove pvp title and master trainer reward and replace them with rune 100% up scroll x5 or something; 6 sum of combination resistence of player's choice; 110% drone. Both of those current rewards are extremely unachieveable in normal server and would be so unfair to those who are grinding now

[gaunt hull]

But it helps people to go on Valehir

[vestal cave]

it goes back to 'hardcore alt abusers don't really help saving valehir'
especially if they don't stay long term, or kind enough to play with casual players instead of on their own

[gaunt hull]

I know it's sarcastic

[vestal cave]

I was thinking if you were sarcastic too but just in case some ppl don't understand

[gaunt hull]

The only solution is delete or merge valehir

Don't complicate

[jolly cave]

Solution : merge valehir to fr or de

and open a NF serv every 6/8 months

[slim laurel]

[storm sapphire]

is it even possible? +20 in a server that is 1 1/2 month old wtf

[deep jetty]

those seems very possible to obtain

[jolly cave]

Easy when you have 50k nds

[storm sapphire]

how much money do you need to waste for that

[deep jetty]

for the master trainer?

[pure nova]

Possible but not worth

[storm sapphire]

mecha flame is not even worth that money to +20 when your sp is +20+0

[jolly cave]

Server isn't worth in general '_'

[deep jetty]

o you mean +20 mb, then luck based

[pure nova]

That's why I just won't play it

[deep jetty]

maybe rename yourself Costa* and you get that

[jolly cave]

When NF3

is the real question

[pure nova]

If I spend the money to get+20 on valehir server I'd be able to buy good perfected one

So why spend it on a new server

[gaunt hull]

You have noswheel, so 3/4/5 stars pets

[storm sapphire]

the server is just tailormade for

1. nolifers/botters
2. people who originally play on valehir anyways

it absolutely has no hope to get new players because the missions are ridiculously time gated and competitive

[deep jetty]

tbh I want that pvp title but I only have 12 days max AL left 🤣

[pure nova]

Even us from valehir don't want it

[storm sapphire]

master trainer was rather a flex title for people who dedicated their time to get 200 different pets to 6 star
it's kinda a spit in the face for them

[deep jetty]

..really hope this gets forwarded and actually revise

[jolly cave]

Even for Valehir players, doing Erenia is better than playing oasis

[pure nova]

They use our server as a 🗑️ to throw the unwanted alts and then complain about them

[jolly cave]

[storm sapphire]

the only gain valehir actually gets from this is leftover nd/items from players who played on oasis though

[deep jetty]

exactly in val you need to beg people to sell you event pets at very high cost

[rough cairn]

Thats the most easy thing if u are nosmaller

[deep jetty]

or spend time to do event raids which you could have done actual raids to earn gold and mats

[storm sapphire]

I'd rather have people have +9+9 tattoos over the title

[deep jetty]

or the guy with the title get +9+9 too

[storm sapphire]

how, you cant buy dragon gem from nosmall

[rough cairn]

But from players yes

[storm sapphire]

people need to spam lol first kinda

[deep jetty]

cross server trade I give nd in dv you give me gem

[rough cairn]

To be honest after 7.2 game is getting worst

And more money grabbing than ever. So i dont have hope for good things

We are also asked for removed gated timed things and here we go agains

[storm sapphire]

at any rates, the server is a hard pass, I thought roddyn saying the rewards will be tempting but the requirement/limited slots is the deal breaker

[rough cairn]

2h and half of maintance in 2x box events with a only 4h extra on monday that is the first workday of the week each week instead on friday that is the end of the week and most do only half day work

[storm sapphire]

no point playing a server if only top 1-10 can get rewards and we know those are always contested by botters who dont get banned and players who take 2 months vacation from work

[rough cairn]

Also release amulett discount + double box before new server

Is also a troll to the new server too

Im waiting for betting event next week or the week later as another troll

Instead nosfire events was thinked more well than this ones

Same for discounts

This is just int5 reskinned with limited time event server

[slim laurel]

i actually enjoy this, whoever grinds for this deserves it

[gaunt hull]

I will grind the master trainer to sell it on vale and troc my gold to dv

[main flame]

I am mostly interested in BP rewards and market reset at this point
Achievements look discouraging, but it's something I can just ignore I suppose?
In the end, 2x exp doesnt matter till you switch from questing to lod, so why not make an alt on already established server

[charred crane]

Bro
Where can I see this?
Can I see the next picture?

[charred crane]

Yes fun

VeryNice OP Title

[magic shoal]

How can you make these Challenges with these rewards when there are Botters and people who live in this game?

[storm sapphire]

master trainer is generally not tradeable

[magic shoal]

Also this "be the first 10 to upgrade +20" doesnt sound money greedy at all

[storm sapphire]

questing to 55 just takes a few hours anyways, you can still make use of double exp in the first day
plus the fastest way is not doing main quest for server rushes

[noble sluice]

As I said yesterday:

• Useless titles;
• Useless pets;
• Useless overall rewards.

Master Trainer is the only title worth in the quests but it will be for sure not tradeable, so useless af.
Pets are overall useless compared to Panda/Otter;
Rewards are just "what?". Why should someone rush for 300pp or gloves/shoes when you can buy them on every normal server putting less effort? Also progression is faster on a normal server if you have already characters.
NGL, it's getting worse and worse.

[storm sapphire]

if they made it so that if you actually put effort (and not 24/7 for a month with limited reward slots) get p100 sps it would even be fine
getting p100 is still rng and it's increasingly getting mandatory to have. it's a huge but nice powerboost for new servers. even p80 with fixed pp is fine.

as it feels now, it's just false advertising for "hardcore raids content after server ends" because the broad majority, even if they play actively, wont get any of the broken rewards

[vestal cave]

Those exclusive titles should not be there no matter tradeable or not, a matter of respect

[noble sluice]

Respect? They were released for INT1, 2 and IIRC 3 challenges. They were gifted as community prizes for tournaments or ingame PvE events. They're not exclusive and never something will be exclusive.

[smoky pilot]

What do you think is worse between the +20 sp challenge and the master trainer challenge

[vestal cave]

I can't think rn with sadness flooding
but in what aspects do you define worse or better though

[kindred badger]

15% onyx 10% all dmg 10% monster dmg thingies are all "unique" for now tho, doesnt make any sense

[vestal cave]

as I said I never liked the idea of rushing things for Nos in general be it longetivity/player motivation-wise or idk i just dont like these things because they are so money-grabbing and meaningless (whales/botters win), so the first one has no relevance to me
and the trainer title (or pvp titles), it's just making those who worked hard angry (or making tournament winners a joke)

[kindred badger]

Rushing 95% requires p2wwing so it is no different than "spend 5k nd gain this extra reward!" black friday discount days, except 5k is now 50k 100k or even higher

[pure nova]

Rushing B is free

[kindred badger]

Didn't they (season) say that master trainer title should be special for those who specifically work hard for that? I can't see why they full 180° turn now, even if its 5 man only

[pure nova]

Because he left the team

[smoky pilot]

Yeah there are different kind of worse , but between a challenge that shits on players who spent 5h per day and 1g for Master Trainer for 1 year , and the +20 which is pure greed and extremely luck based , nothing like the concept of rewarding the most rushing players , idk for you

[real heath]

What I'm reading: "Rewards too op, this will make people actually play new server, and increase chance of more valehir players "

[pure nova]

The title is just as much p2w. You need as many 5 star pets as possible

[smoky pilot]

Yeah on that kind of server that's also p2w asf

[fast lagoon]

Fernon fairy in a non pvp server : Useless / Top try hard limited titles : useless and a lot of them rushers will : Get banned for bot/ Dont play Valehir . Only good rewards are Mulan Felt hat, Meca wings and pp stones, GG all

[kindred badger]

Battlepass pets could be in battlepass because you know they are no big game changers but when 99% rewards are best obtained through whale level p2w, i believe that int5 is just a quick cashgrab

[pure nova]

Imagine 5x fernon and 4 of them will be banned

[fast lagoon]

Hahaha

[pure nova]

Also why go try try hard competing spending money when I can just wait and buy fernon fairy from the winners for 4-5b

It makes no sense

[slim laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/television-tv-shows-tv-popcorn-watching-gif-17892683

[pliant rover]

you make the 6.2 quest faster than 4-5b on valehir no?

[kindred badger]

Valehir pvp is dead, wtb fernon 10kk

[fast lagoon]

Imagine spend x000 euros for rush titles and fairies, use cheat , account sharing ect and get banned

[pure nova]

Nope, you have to try hard and to be amongst the first you have to cash more than them, even then it's not guaranteed.

[fast lagoon]

Who care about Fernon fairies in Valehir ? Come 1 week afk in arena, come at all Caligor time and u will see

[kindred badger]

Also friendly warning, i feel like there will be a ton of accoung sharing to run down a factory 7/24 from different time zones for this reason

[pure nova]

What happens if you buy 30-40k nd and you are 6th? You're literally Fd

[noble sluice]

Everyone can just wait and buy that stuff (not titles). BP pets will be back in the future for sure like football bushi, titles too and in easier way to be obtained.
As someone said, if I should give a name for this server, it would be:

Quick crashgrab from brainless people

[pure nova]

Completely agree

[pliant rover]

you could rush the server and buy nd items for cheap

then sell after merge for max profito

[pure nova]

Also to do the quest fastest you need a party of 3. If you're second fastest party you're literally competing your own party

[noble sluice]

You make more just doing IC with multiple alts, trading gold or via blackmarket tbh

[pure nova]

Yep, for NF i made around 6-8b , and 1 character c74, without try harding

[elder vine]

Regarding the bot concerns, I'll dig into it and try to have something to share next week

[fast lagoon]

And about Account sharing ?

[fast lagoon]

GF will add anti cheat ?

[elder vine]

I'm talking about the concerns with the rewards, not the bots in general

[fast lagoon]

Oh okay ^^

[deep jetty]

reward is final?

[elder vine]

Might be there are changes, but still TBD

[deep jetty]

please forward my suggestion and let the product team consider

[elder vine]

Which one was yours?

[deep jetty]

sec I ping you again after this round

[deep jetty]

it doesn't have to be the reward replacement I mentioned but the reward I argue shouldn't be that exclusive already to a val player

the power of reward is there tho from I what see

[gaunt hull]

@elder vine i ve a question on rewards, except the drone and fernon fairy, does the reward of the raids will be immediately donate?

Like, you achieve

[elder vine]

No, it's sent at a later point

[gaunt hull]

Ok, do you know the time required to donate ? 1 day or it Can be later

[elder vine]

If it works like in previous servers, should be at the end

But I can ask to have 100% confirmation on Monday

[gaunt hull]

So mysterious reliqs you win in Ibrahim raid is a reward for the end of the server xd

It 's not worth

XP titles are not worth too if u obtain at the end of Oasis @elder vine

[elder vine]

I'll ask on Monday about it as said

[gaunt hull]

I will wait monday but if u can talk about this

Thx @elder vine, otherwise create achievements and rewards does not give advantages during the server

[elder vine]

I already asked about other stuff but it's late today, that's why I couldn't tell til Monday

[real heath]

this battlepass will heal my soul

hoping there’s enough funstuffs outside of the hardcore sphere for non top-10 players

[final oyster]

If achievement rewards are given on the end of the server they are almost useless..

[real heath]

bit dramatic mate

[jolly cave]

there are none

10k nds, jobless and bot, or you're out

[storm sapphire]

it's just whaling/timespent/botting competition

[jolly cave]

yes

Ppl will go day 1 cause they are delusional and think they can do something, but they suck

They'll leave right after seeing the first ladder and be 80 and polish will be c20 😂

[deep jetty]

That level 3 book thing probably get done by second day

[jolly cave]

Day 3 : ghost serv

Ok, maybe day 4

[storm sapphire]

due to high competitive environment in a super restrictive map options, it's going to be super toxic with griefing and stuff as well

do we know if there are copied maps and such?

what about caligor issue, if it's on the bp again

[jolly cave]

NosFire was good cause everyone could be good thx to lvl 80 start and stuffs given

but int 5..

[storm sapphire]

average people weren't gatekept from c10 eq from top1% doing raids xD

[jolly cave]

and 85 stuff too, don't forget it

[storm sapphire]

that too

[rough cairn]

You smarto baguetto

[pure nova]

There aren't

[noble sluice]

When Phaendar gave int 1 and 2 prizes, they came like 1 week after we completed the raids (or few days after, I don't remember exactly how many days passed because it happened like 3-4 years ago)

[polar osprey]

Summin up the feedback: take a hint

[onyx steeple]

They dont care

Till ppl keep buy nd on every new server

https://tenor.com/view/money-dollars-bills-fanning-rich-gif-11676089

[delicate wraith]

shiiitt

[fallen kiln]

I think maybe this server should have other bonus like exp x3 and gold x3 or things like that cause only 1 month duration and 2 weeks its too few time

At least to have the ppl happy and another reason to "maybe" play

[rough cairn]

Gold x3 its impossible. It is capped to a limit. It id usless

[noble sluice]

Actually I don't think there are people that will "play" the server. I think it's more reward based to move on their main character if tradable at the server ends.

[jolly cave]

You ppl has too much ego

Top 10 of all things will be one organized polish team, randoms can't compete

[fallen kiln]

Yeah bro I think the same ppl will not play thats why they should add better things 🙂

[wind crypt]

[noble sluice]

Even better rewards don't solve valehir problems

[fallen kiln]

Yeah I know dude, just giving some ideas

[pure nova]

Even if we leave that issue aside, nf was fun 2 months, why do sheety update after? Lv80 starter with all the quests done was a huge plus for me

[noble sluice]

Yes it was so good start at lv.80 and I also think that it should be normal for every server not only event ones because the early content is so outdated

[pure nova]

Exactly. We've done that too many times, I don't want to do quests over and over.

[rough cairn]

They are adding raidcore raid maybe this would make fan a1 again

[noble sluice]

I guess it's scheduled for december

[rough cairn]

No end september probabily, a4 for december

[limber plaza]

At which time server starts?

[noble sluice]

Afternoon

[final oyster]

News about rewards?

[elder vine]

Morning, the plan is to send them in a quite regular basis - daily or almost daily

[gaunt hull]

Thx @elder vine

[elder vine]

🤨

All servers have happy hours

[wind crypt]

about the pass we'll know some or start day?

[elder vine]

Start day

[wind crypt]

kk

[gaunt hull]

@elder vine do we have a starter pack like the nosfire in nosmall or it's the same that every int server?

[polar gull]

a content creator shared it on #🎥│video-streaming

[cobalt lynx]

no

they shared achivements not battle pass

[polar gull]

oh okay mb

[marsh lava]

where can i see achievements

[gaunt hull]

@marsh lava

[bold haven]

Any changes about merge ? @elder vine

Did he give any answers about this ?

[fallen kiln]

You can get Master Trainer thats the only thing that catches my attention

[gaunt hull]

Even if it's the ultimate title it's for valehir

[fallen kiln]

Yep I thought the same

[tender junco]

these achievements are pretty unlikely to achieve if you have to work a job. Kinda sad that its only for the first 10 players and not some fixed rewards for everyone to get

[eager lynx]

It's an attractive server only for the first 10 players, useless

[sweet junco]

no just for valehir player

[rough cairn]

You shouldnt work if you play nostailo

[idle steppe]

kinda useless 😄

so they expecting only 10 players will join their server? 😄

[exotic granite]

@elder vine maybe make it also the first 10 raid groups for raids ? Is that a option I mean not double or triple times for one group just for separate raid groups because like ibra raid is in early a huge diff…

Or even 5 raid groups

[naive falcon]

this achievements are so DAMM

[idle steppe]

Its not worth to play.

just imagine they will somehow interest new players. With no knowledge. And they will never achive this top 10 players.

i dont think this is the best way how to dazzle new players. 🙂

[deep jetty]

Spit hard on valehir players who are grinding for master trainer

[idle steppe]

the only way they will get new players is that the server will have a wow effect for people who have already heard of nostale..

This server will be again used for earning money and exp alts.

[deep jetty]

If you start grinding for the title on pet trainer release, you are very close to complete the title, then you see this

[elder vine]

No, plan remains the same

[elder vine]

No answers

[light stump]

So that means the staff received our request and they refused

Or its still in discuss?

[light stump]

Nvm

[pliant rover]

The 79 clowns emoji were not enough to open fr/de merge, rip server

[rough cairn]

You need 7900

[smoky pilot]

It also spits on Season

[small inlet]

Watch them add a better title to nosmall 1 day after the server ends

[deep jetty]

ye I hope, maybe put those jobless bots in their place

[rough cairn]

Its 2 years that eternal is coming out. So i suppose its time for a new title. They switch the top tier title every 2 years more or less

[fast lagoon]

2 years since last voke pet too ( Dont speak to me about tamer skill, CD is too long, a lot of teams want u to have Panda or Otter, nothing else)

[limber plaza]

Which time a clock it start about

[fair pebble]

Hello, do you have news ?

[jolly cave]

Best bots win

[sterile solstice]

83

[finite terrace]

this the rewards for joining the new server? 😂

[storm sapphire]

no

[finite terrace]

thank god

[rough cairn]

No

[storm sapphire]

you only get them at top rank

that wasn't a joke

[rough cairn]

Well i hope this title would be in normal server too in future. But i don't think

They are pretty good for some specific situation

[finite terrace]

nah the best one gives 10% attack

and the fairy is 35% and cant get stronger lol

[rough cairn]

10% atk is like master trainer

And 15% dragon title is way better than master trainer and eternal in a8 against bosses

[charred crane]

X 1.075 DMG Average
Mage op ?

Master Trainier better

[storm sapphire]

who let him cook

[charred crane]

Mage need

[kindred badger]

this + any onyx wing + floral weapon + blackrabbit = 50% onyx chance
slap an +9 onyx tattoo = 70% onyx proc

time to lag the server with seer/scout combo 5 ghost/sec

[rough cairn]

That 70% onyx proc maybe would be worth But not sure

[storm sapphire]

no

[idle steppe]

Its crazy there is still no info 😂😂

this is like yesterday's maintenance...

announcement 10 minutes before 😂😂😂

[idle steppe]

😂

This is why Valehir will never recover. 😂

[exotic granite]

They say yesterday maintenance from 9 and will not end before 12

[jolly cave]

Today is flopday

[noble sluice]

I bet 2 ch full, 2 on busy

[jolly cave]

Haha ^^

[jaunty viper]

In 1 week ch1 normal

[noble sluice]

Next days it will raise to 1k+ for a while

[cobalt lynx]

😂 what is that bulls

[cobalt lynx]

better than nf 👍

[jolly cave]

Clown

[noble sluice]

I was researching how many players does NosTale have daily. If the chart is correct, it should be around that number (the site does count same IP multiple account logged as 1 player )

[cobalt lynx]

does that count all servers ?

it seems extremely low

[cobalt lynx]

you're mad 😂 🫵

[noble sluice]

Yes. I correct myself, it counts also alts in the total but I guess it's only for steam players

[fair pebble]

https://steamcharts.com/app/550470

more than 600

[cobalt lynx]

oh okay steam seems reasonable

[fair pebble]

steam is ~350 player but who play on steam ??

[pure nova]

What about in 1 week

[proven jungle]

Are there expected to be more than 100 players? If so, why make no rewarding "achievements" where 90%(+) players will be ignored?

[cobalt lynx]

the point of achievements is being first, it rewards the more invested people in theory.. all players will get a free battle pass with rewards so don't worry about it

[rough cairn]

In theory

[proven jungle]

In theory they called out for most loyal and motivated players. In reality the achievements are only for those quitting their job / using their holiday so far. Terrible wording in their advertising.

[proven jungle]

But which person even gets this terrible idea of only posting news for 10-15 people on an event server. That's not how you motivate players to come to a server if the only information is the rewards for the most sweatiest people and not for those who try to just tag along....

[fast lagoon]

BP rewards are not good

[sterile solstice]

Same BP reward

[pliant rover]

Yeah bp rewards are nothing special, if you play it's only for the top rush prizes

[jaunty viper]

All channels recommend

[pliant rover]

btw 12h opening is a record no?

[proven jungle]

If BP is as disappointing as expected I guess next step is to wait and see what first server-wide achievement will be like and what its reward is...

[sterile solstice]

nothing to add, just put already existing boost , ofc it won't be delayed

• it's the same mission
  800 fish

[grave cloud]

Battle pass rewards kind of useles no?

[gray estuary]

https://nostale.comastuff.com/OasisAchievements/Achievements.php?lang=en

🤔

[grave cloud]

No pet, no mount, no potions, no ancelloans, no tarots. Nothing for free2play player. IF someone new to this game actually will join the server I suppose he will leave as fast as he will have to go to sunny meadows by foot on Mage with 7 base speed or something like this lol

[proven jungle]

Server-wide isn't visible to me, yet.
https://forum.nostale.gameforge.com/forum/thread/1319-server-start-maintenance-07-08-2024/
Telling me that visibility starts on 12th August

[sterile solstice]

16 years ago we start with no ancello, no pet, no mount etc.... it's nothing to do with a new server

[tall river]

What a bp

start 1lv Dragonveil

[marsh lava]

i go back dragonveil

[rough cairn]

You have the mount in nosmall the rabbit mount

[grave cloud]

that is available for 15lvl or 30lvl when playing via Steam

imagine someone joins via Steam, create mage and have to wait for lvl 30 to be able to buy something for real money xD

[rough cairn]

lvl 30 with 2x xp is pretty fasto

[grave cloud]

And still - you would have to buy nosdollars to be able to move faster in the game you're not sure you will play for longer periods

[charred crane]

@elder vine faltas tu

[rough cairn]

Then we have the 1st rank to reach c65 then. Prism with his charater

[proven jungle]

I doubt there will be many motivated people to spend money on a mount at level 30 after seeing BP quests and achievements, considering how many they likely already saw running off with nosmall package mounts.

[broken terrace]

its just a bad joke

they give us a server with LV1 START with NO STUFF and with SHORTER SERVER DURATION and the same BP missions as in nosfire server..

like guys are you completly crazy? with these lifestyle sp missions, hit c65, complete valehir raid and so on

how on earth can normal people do these missions

[jolly cave]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-victor-pivert-the-mad-adventures-of-rabbi-jacob-haha-lol-gif-11706669366776407179

[broken terrace]

even the achievements are for normal people completly pointless, because you wont get them

for normal people, new players and returning old players it MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE to even play this server

and to make it worse, you get merged with valehir server

gameforge is just completly lost, they dont know what their players really want or they dont give a f about it, its just disrespectful at this point

[sterile solstice]

when people will do ibrahim with 63/62 eq

[broken terrace]

yeah i mean you have 1,5 months to build your character from scratch, you need to farm gold, you need to farm and make your own equipment, sps and so on

how on earth will a normal player do valehir raid, act 8 ts, hit c65 and in the meantime catch 800 fish and so on

its just delusional, i think before they decide things like this, they should maybe play their own game so they have atleast a little clue how things work for normal people xd

[proven jungle]

Same BP missions while having to start 79 levels lower and without equipment assistance on same time limit certainly feels like a "We are generous by giving you a free BP but we actually don't want you to get any meaningful rewards."

[rough cairn]

Its august. Now you get holiday, so you can play 10h a day.

[broken terrace]

sure sure, i mean its worth it, because in the end i can play on a dead server

i thought atleast the missions and rewards will make it worth to play but this is just a disrespectful bad joke ngl

[finite terrace]

why not all people got the package?

[tidal jackal]

Today i bought a paper shredder and I'm having more fun than at the oasis. lol

[sly garnet]

how is server going

[grave cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-monkey-dying-gif-13123180

[light stump]

bEST SERVER EVER

[noble sluice]

Not even ch1 normal

[slim laurel]

i just did first yerti

[jolly cave]

@slim laurel Can you go rank 1, change your nickname to mine and screen?

Ty rinoobex. It's for my collection.

[slim laurel]

Ok '_'

[rough cairn]

Can you go rank 1, change your nickname to mine and screen? Ty rinnoobnex. It's for my collection

[storm sapphire]

you dont even have a collection

[rough cairn]

I will start from now my collection.

[storm sapphire]

then start on nosoasis, you dont have much competition

[rough cairn]

Im in vacation. I cant. They started the server too early

[storm sapphire]

no worries about starting late, there arent players to compete against

[boreal heart]

Who would want to Play on server that will not playable after 2months 💀

[proven jungle]

I wouldn't say "not playable" as it will get merged. Nosfire also wasn't playable after its time was over but characters got merged into other servers so u still could use them...

[pure nova]

NF you could pick your destination, on this one you can't

[storm sapphire]

? wdym after its time was over, it was fully active throughout the server duration until merge into the server of your choice

arask meant that valehir is not a playable server, not recommended to start there at all

and no one who plays there would ever recommend playing there too

[proven jungle]

well, I meant the point of merge being "end of nosfire servertime"

[storm sapphire]

valehir. is an unplayable server for average players

[proven jungle]

sounded more like a "characters used on oasis will be deleted" attitude to me. Might have mistaken it.

[storm sapphire]

getting deleted or deported to valehir is the same thing ngl

[boreal heart]

I mean if you cant go to not dead server after end of oasis i dont see point to Play it , why not start on alive server

[storm sapphire]

you can see how much of a deterrent the stigma "valehir" has on the playerbase, just making it merge to valehir at the end of the server's duration made the server dead already with not a single channelnon 'normal'

[proven jungle]

I'm more into playing on event servers at this point, than playing on the main servers. Treating them like a seasonal gameplay.

[storm sapphire]

yes, that's for your case, but majority of players would enjoy a permanent server as you cant get maxed out in one of those event servers though

[proven jungle]

Yet, seeing the BP missions under Oasis circumstances and the motivation destroying achievements, it's a first time for me to fully pass on one of those....

[storm sapphire]

more recommended for anyone who doesnt want to join server rushes/plays the game for a month every year to just start on regular server

[storm sapphire]

the bp missions are the same as on nosfire, just that you have less time, resources and level

[naive falcon]

you guys wasting your times here e.e server is already opened , just play who want

many blablabla

[rough cairn]

Just playyyy

[proven jungle]

So feedback can only be given before something starts and not during/after its existence?

[boreal heart]

Yeee go play , but then people should not cry about merge with other servers

[storm sapphire]

^

if even 1 person complains about being stuck on valehir after this

[proven jungle]

I'm more interested into knowing what the average reached BP stage will be, by active players, under those circumstances.

I'm seeing those tasks under oasis circumstances as very troublesome but would like to know if I'm proven wrong.

[slim laurel]

dude u have no idea at all why bash valehir 24/7

its goodo besto servero

elite players are on valehir, average noobs that need alot of players are on dv 😄

[storm sapphire]

not bashing, 9/10 people complain about being stuck on valehir asking for merges

while playing int2-3-4

[slim laurel]

people talk too much nonsense, maybe care for yourself

[smoky pilot]

One of my biggest complain about Oasis is the timing:

• Last year we had sp balance + Valhalla quest rework + few Qol , the week before Int4 , so it was still somehow "nice" to try those changes.
• The year before we had the whole a1 to a5 quest rework (5.1 excluded) , that was a good timing to start a new character to see the difference.

Also Oasis is only barely more than 2 months after the end of NF.
From what i've read , it's the same BP as in NF , but as said above , without lvl 81 boost , and 2 weeks less than NF , so that's a huge disadvantage given how hard it seems to get the endgames missions/titles/rewards.

There is nothing for new players since years , but this time Oasis comes at a moment where there is nothing new about what was written in the roadmap.
In what way a server that forces veterans to rush like hell a server within 7 weeks , is a preparation of "hardcore raids"?

Some rewards/titles are nice , other aren't (it was already explained here why Master Trainer reward is such a disrespect on Valehir players).

Also imo it would have been nice to get another BP on regular servers , it's been time since last one.
At least , new background when selecting player is nice

[deep jetty]

at least they disable pvp title achievement so I am happy with it

[noble sluice]

Now tell me how this server can revive valehir. It has literally only 1 channel on NORMAL during DAY 1. It never happened before.

[onyx steeple]

How server Is going?

https://tenor.com/view/lolol-lol-rotfl-laugh-emoji-gif-15683012

[rough cairn]

Normal + normal = near full

[obtuse kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/lilm3gan-gif-13900014848715533958

[broken terrace]

That happens if you dont listen to the players who actually play this game..

Just ignore every feedback. They didnt even change or adapt these ridiculous bp missions xd

If you make a server with lv1 start without anything else and you tell everyone that the server will get merged to a dead valehir server, atleast make the rewards and bp missions and other stuff so rewarding, that its worth to play on this server even tho it merges with valehir. You have to make it as easy and fun as possible to motivate people to play on a server like this

But nah, just make it less attractive than nosfire, take the same bp missions, with less time, with no eq, no sps and so on. Surely that will motivate people to play on a dead server :)

Even on nosfire some of these bo missions took way more than a month and there you startet at lv80 with act1-act3 quest finished, with 5+7 eq and sp 1-4 50+5 and fairys

[idle steppe]

Yeah I tried it today and its very bored

[broken terrace]

Its just delusional in my opinion and disrespect to every casual nostale player who loves to play this game

[idle steppe]

At least they should Add EQ

[broken terrace]

Yeah i mean the lv1 start is completely fine for me. But then atleast give us SOMETHING, give us eq, give us sps or a very good battle pass where you gain stuff like that with achievable missions. Not something where you have to hit c65, do act 8 valehir raid or fernon raids with a lv1 start server in 1,5 months without anything

Its literally soo easy to make a really really good bp, with HUGE rewards to make it fun and worth to play

But no they just do this

[storm sapphire]

they could make level up rewards like in nostale SE
it would be much more fun if you start with 5+7 lvl 1 eq
do class change and receive set of new eq every x levels, it's not op on those outdated eq either

[idle steppe]

Only what they made was new wallpaper 😂

[storm sapphire]

and it's ai generated

[broken terrace]

Exactlyyyy its so easy. I just dont get it, it seems like they are just to lazy for that

[broken terrace]

Im pretty sure it doesn’t even take much time to do something like this

[idle steppe]

Ofc.

Its seem they dont care about comunity. Only care about their bank account

Rush system for nosmallers only

New players cant achive anything

[broken terrace]

https://discord.com/channels/628543142819528714/1270812246443819059

Just look at this and please listen to the community..

[solid portal]

Listen and never open again another season servers.

[rough cairn]

How do you know

[fast lagoon]

Not hard to see that xD

Just take 1 min of ur time, u will see all problems on that picture and it's AI problems ^^

[autumn path]

ignoring everything obvious you can see by just looking at the image, even online tools are certain

[fair pebble]

deserved

[tacit sphinx]

Did the Achievement to obtain the limited Fairy get removed? I feel like these last minute changes should be communicated because it's confusing like this.

[rough cairn]

My eyes are not expert to detect ai things

[next sequoia]

this server was a very small swing but a massive miss

it's like they went " so, we learned from nosfire and decided to make this server a lot worse "

[pure nova]

Neither are your hands expert to cook

[finite terrace]

boycott this bs

[next sequoia]

boycotting anything GF does never works ngl

[charred crane]

you mean because of this? or what?

[autumn path]

and that and that and that and just everything in general

im not against AI art for things like this, but for the love of god, at least get a better quality (low resolution artifacts) image and choose a better ai model

or have someone clean it up slightly

[rough cairn]

A brofessional image cost a lot. Around 100-150€. You guys don't shop enough for paying an artist for every update

[vestal cave]

I am against AI art for things like this
What's the purpose of the new login screen? To make people feel delighted, like gifting a gift (showing your care)
You don't wrap up a clump of stolen art as a gift and feel satisfied about that...
I can't appreciate this, and I would appreciate it even if it was a lower quality (as in poor art skills) but properly drawn art
Or just don't have it if an artist can't be found
It's very sad to see this type of AI art being used in a business (professional) setting

[pure nova]

Artist can't be found== if you don't want to pay to an artist

[next sequoia]

100% money taken out of the community, 0% invested into the game

[deep jetty]

Maybe ask AI to re-create Nostale in Unreal Engine 5

[next sequoia]

it's hilarious that they didn't just sit down an intern for a few days and had him generate Ai images until one without obvious flaws came out

effort: none

but what's new with nostale

[broken terrace]

https://discord.com/channels/628543142819528714/1270812246443819059

[fast lagoon]

Imagine u are a company who earn x millions , have a good community with a lot of artists and u prefer use a sh..tty AI than to pay a professional artist 200/300euros or organize a community contest 3/4 weeks before the start and let the community vote for the best, imagine ! How can we accept that sh..t ? Are u okay ? Please stop be more D..mb than u are in reality, Mr "Besto Foodo", use AI in this situation is all except a good thing !

A little thing like organize a tiny contest in a discord they dont do that ..... Seriously ?!

[rough cairn]

but if a company can save money it's better, in a long time 5 years and everything will be done with AI for the artistic side, and people won't care at all if something is done with AI or not. unless you have no moral codes and you will only independently support artists who don't use AI. because no artist will be able to support themselves working. The use of AI for film production, music, images and more by companies is already foreseen

[fast lagoon]

"The use of AI for film production, music, images and more by companies is already foreseen", maybe, maybe not but in big 2024 it's not a reason to accept that sh..t ! What about a community contest ? What is ur answer Mr "Have answers to everything"?

U dont think it can be a good thing to do a community artist contest ?

[rough cairn]

I suppose that contest take times to organize, do a qualitative evaluation, a survey etc. etc. and time was probably too tight for nosoasis

[fast lagoon]

Just post a topic on discord and let community vote, u think it take a lot of time ? Okay okay i have my answer, i stop speak with u

[rough cairn]

It was announce in july and it was relesed in august. Maybe 1 month was a short time for doing a contest

Because you need to give 1/2 weeks atleast for the graphic to the artists, than do a file with all images of different artist andnthen 1/2 weeks for the survey

You are just out of time more or less

[fast lagoon]

Yep yep it's better to use a sh..ty AI with a lot of bugs in the picture, yep, ty genius 🤡

[rough cairn]

For sure its not better. But probabily that's the most economic and efficient way

[next sequoia]

they could've even gone with the excuse of "art contest for summer oasis" and just taken the winner's as a background

but of course that'd require effort on their end

[rough cairn]

Economic also in employeers time. Because one should be work on the contest project instead of basic normal routine wo4k

[fast lagoon]

They copy past 80% of things of NF (without the good things hahahaha) , we got 3 or 4 maintenances in 2/3 days and create a topic on discord (Job of CoMa imo) take too much time ? (Oasis was announced more than 1 month ago)

[rough cairn]

yes, but you have to consider that from what I've seen over the years, Gameforge is very slow in any decision and change. Fortunately they work in the video game field, which is a substantially easy field. If they worked in the music field they would probably already have a noose around their neck, since you always have to be on the ball and do things quickly or you get cut off, not for nothing many of those I know take drugs or smoke a lot. They play in the easy mode world of work, and fortunately they can afford to do things in more reasonable times. But it's not just Gameforge, even bigger companies like Blizzard, EA etc are particularly slow, they also have to ask for permission

just having to ask for everything at different levels than you slows things down enormously.

[fast lagoon]

It will be never a reason for accept that really bad and full of bugs AI logging screen.

[pliant rover]

Who cares about AI logging, if anything id like them to use AI to speed up things

[fast lagoon]

Because others things are okay for u ?

[pliant rover]

Which things

[fast lagoon]

U dont see all players bad reactions and commentaries here ? Nothing is well done

[pliant rover]

Yes this server is a joke

If you ever play on it ur stupid to begin with, just like int2 and so on

[fast lagoon]

All of Oasis is a joke, and AI logging screen is a part of that joke, we speak about all problems of Oasis here since x weeks, why not speaking about the logging screen too ?

[pliant rover]

Logging is for everyone not oasis

[fast lagoon]

So it's a bigger problem than just Oasis 😉

Because all can see that sh..t every time they log

[pliant rover]

I dont think its a problem, it looks cool. Only giga nerds cries about it being AI cause some parts are not full hd like who cares, its refreshing

[fast lagoon]

Okay so i'm a giga nerd if u want, no problem, but i will never accept use AI badly like that , sorry but not sorry

[main flame]

That ai image is very disheartening
Its not even well hidden...
Nostale has been looking very inconsistent with its artstyle for quite a bit and this just adds more to that bag

I would rather have no new login screen than an AI generated one

[slim laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/trash-garbage-truck-aye-bruh-there-goes-your-opinion-gif-16381942

[pliant rover]

People complain about cool AI art while they give you valehir server

[fast lagoon]

Because 1500 messages about the server and the merge is not enough for u

So we cant speak of others things than things U want us to speak

[pliant rover]

For me it is for GF i dont think apparantly

[fast lagoon]

Nice, nice

[pliant rover]

[main flame]

I can later on list all the things I like and dislike about new server, because login screen is not the only thing I have some thoughts about. This is why we have the feedback text ch after all

[storm sapphire]

I don't think this is possible on a new server with 2 maps for valehir

[broken terrace]

Sure bro just take your credit card, cash 10000€ so you can afford to make your sp +20 and up your eq to +10 and then if all other people do it too, it might be possible :)

They dont play this game, so they have actually no clue how hard some of these missions are for a lv1 server without anything

I guess they didnt even think about it while copy pasting the bp missions

Ctrl c + ctrl v is too fast for that

[storm sapphire]

it was relatively doable for 1 preroom if everyone was c65 equipped using soundflower 😂

[boreal heart]

Well maybe if this reaction from players would be from first int start , they will not go for it but now we get what we get

[rough cairn]

It is possible

I remember moonfall team back in a8 did in 4:33 minutes a trio valehur

300 s its around 5m

[onyx steeple]

Cant log ch1 help to many ppl

[frail halo]

Change 6.2 quest to first 8, as a fernon team is kinda weird to make them compete between same team.

[smoky pilot]

It got changed to 8 it seems :https://nostale.comastuff.com/OasisAchievements/Achievements.php?lang=en

[frail halo]

Ty for telling me, didn't notice

[idle steppe]

Guys it is for free, why should they care?

[gray sail]

50% happy hour boyz, cash in on new server

[fast lagoon]

Nop ty

[noble sluice]

I don't see nosmallers

[autumn path]

i do and i dont even play

[idle steppe]

never ever again 🙂

[smoky pilot]

Even at peak hour for sheep minigame , it doesn't seems to attract many players/alts , surprising

[rough cairn]

i don't think they will reach 12.500

[proven jungle]

something distracting from the individual achievements will likely not get that much attention, considering the few people likely will want to go for the other goals first

[noble sluice]

TBH 150% increased chance of B, A, S skills isn't attractive at all.

[noble sluice]

In 2 or 3 days announcement:
"We decided to lower the total amount of minigames from 12.500 to 7500" or something like that

[obtuse kernel]

when do we get, " we decided to finally merge valehir with dv?"

[noble sluice]

I think next year is the one

[plush frost]

It would be but the current wheel is useless without Marie

[rough cairn]

You have baby panda. Cupcake
Otter and also forga

[plush frost]

Ye panda cupcake and otter op for skillticket event? 🤣

[rough cairn]

Yes

[rough cairn]

What is being changed?

Adjustments to the Summer Oasis server (more info tomorrow)

lol

[small inlet]

Hopefully never

Just delete all servers, create 1 new one with nd prices 3x higher

And exp 10x slower

[pure nova]

Interesting idea

[vapid tangle]

That's ... Bringing back nostale before adding tart buff ?

[pure nova]

It'll be a journey to get c90

[main flame]

Yoooo
They actually listened to our feedback??
Thank you

[vapid tangle]

That's still late.
Not sure who would start on Oasis when the main rewards (race title) are already unavailable

[small inlet]

What will happen with accounts which won't reach BP 12?

[small inlet]

c90 was free anyways

[elder vine]

More info on that will be provided at a later point 🙂

[small inlet]

Well so valehir players should for the next 7 days just do lvl90 alts tbh( the once that don't have alts)

[broken terrace]

Thank you Daveius for listening to our Feedback. You‘re the best

[small inlet]

and pray that accounts without bp will go there

[pure nova]

So when new server is failing, gameforge decides that they can give a merge for a few weeks but gate-keeping valehir for years?

[small inlet]

Well still could be worse for valehir

No merge is still better than merge with dragon

[pure nova]

Idk about that but one thing is for sure, this server was a huge unsuccess

[vapid tangle]

They'll prob plan a merge Vale->DV 🤔

[small inlet]

which everyone knew in advance

[small inlet]

hopefully never

[next sequoia]

are valehir players still sitting on all their botted fishing money from back then?

[pure nova]

Yes, however they knew what we wanted and gave it in the end but they HAD to make sure that we're not joking

[small inlet]

Funfact: Fishing bots were actually more common on predragon servers than vale

[next sequoia]

i only remember that it completely ruined any chances for a stable economy for vale

[small inlet]

same on the other servers, thats why they had to be merged into dragon

but on them it was already fully ruined, by earlier golddupping bugs. On Polish servers Nos$ got to 400k/nd(or even to them being non existent).

[noble sluice]

Valehir if they make min. 600 points I bet

Next step is to listen our feedback about Valehir and end the suffering. Maybe after this server ends.

[storm sapphire]

I think you get auto transfered to valehir regardless

and lvl 12 is just to get out of that prison

[pliant rover]

Good changes for Oasis

Its good when you are listened

[small inlet]

good one

Thats why the change is done just right after the ND 50%

When they realised they had terrible sales on the server

[storm sapphire]

the way it is going to be, is what it should have been before launch, when people complained already to be fair
even if those reactions on discord don't represent all of nos, it does represent a sizeable amount of players and most of them have the same thoughts about it

[sterile solstice]

🧑‍🦯

[plush frost]

Delete the valehir transfer ticket. Nobody will chose it anyways and we don’t need any more alts. Ty

[small inlet]

Of course we will, but really appreciate the fact that they added dragon option. We won't get players on the server that only play to move gold to dragon anyways.

Good change for valehir as well

[plush frost]

[noble sluice]

What did I say on saturday?

[small inlet]

Everyone knew that only then they will listen

But it's funny people believe it was because of the players feedback

[noble sluice]

If in the last week ppl really wasted money it was not going to happen for sure

[finite terrace]

Dajjeeeeeeeeee finally u listened

trust us from beginning next time, much love

[vestal cave]

[noble sluice]

They trusted the money spent on oasis graph

[finite terrace]

yes we told them we wouldn't spend any

[kindred badger]

Damn even the fluffy changed the holym pfp >.< truly a big incident

This one is just as cute tho ngl

[vestal cave]

it is like back to when I first joined nos discord, also with my ffxiv pfp
that's my ffxiv lala

[noble sluice]

They put more maps

[boreal heart]

Wow so if its about money they can listen

[fast lagoon]

From "Oasis for save Valehir" to "Oasis for kill Valehir"

[timid sail]

@elder vine
And again I am fascinated by how Gameforge and their decision making keeps working against specific groups in the community.

On the 31st of July I mentioned in this post, that I like how it was planned to force merge Oasis into Valehir, because only in this way we could have seen (or in this case "not seen") the impact this approach would bring to solve the situation on INT-Valehir. We also already saw what it means for a new server and their population if u know that everything people work for will end up in a graveyard. I told u "Let's see if they have the courage to keep it that way till the end." but I guess in the end even Gameforge can't be that stubborn about their mistakes.

So we started with option 1 of my post from the 17th of July (#🎮│eu-undercity message) where I gave u the 3 logical possibilities beforehand. And now we switch to option 3 because it turns out, people don't wanna actively play on a server that is meant to merge into INT-Valehir. What a shocker.

I find it funny how in this case where a feedback of Oasis gaining around 93 negative votes and hundreds of posts will result in Gameforge adapting to the situation where on the other hand through several feedback posts from previous servers AND a suggestion thread about INT-Valehir and the problems that reached OVER 200 upvotes and was equally active is still... ye.. where is it? Still forwarded?

Ask us about feedback one more time. Please. It will be very educative.
Gameforge should get their things checked. This is disgusting.

[fast lagoon]

This situation proves to us that the only way to make things happen is to boycott, funny, funny

[rough cairn]

Wow

[fair pebble]

true

[small quail]

[fiery cliff]

In earlier post, some GF staffs mention that INT-Val couldnt be merged with DV because the total population would be beyond the server's capacity. At this point, I am perplexed by the fact that both NosFire and SummerServ could be merged into DV without any issues, but not INT-Val

[fast lagoon]

It's just a nonsense ^^

[fiery cliff]

All Int-Val players deserve a closure after 4 years of torture. Just merge us w/ DV

[noble sluice]

Boycott Valehir then

[glass pine]

consider rerun of costume wheel since no one cashed bc no one cares about valehir 🙏

[broken terrace]

I think the BP is still way too hard for the short server duration, especially if you start 1 week later. Some of these missions are really ridiculous. Like the 300s valehir raid that is just not possible on a new server like this with prerooms. So please make the missions easier OR give us the transfer earlier, maybe at BP Level 10

[small inlet]

the BP is very easy

If you play even casually you easily get to lvl13

[pliant rover]

Yeah i said multiple times, you want to save valehir? Make it die with boycott no money in it, its the only thing company cares about

[small inlet]

Fun fact, they added the Server transfer instead of sp10 pp, probably the best reward of all the BP

[broken terrace]

not really if you consider that there is almost no eq available to exp beyond lv85+. On nosfire it was easy because you had eq for all milestones already in your inventory, so you could just exp all the way through c65 but this server is different

and we have missions with 100 ts lv85+, act 8 ts, 100 raids c10+, level 20 celestial spire, 300s valehir raid and so on where you actually have to be stronger, so you need decent eq to level up and do these missions

and we have only 40 days left

[kind parrot]

yeah it's going to be a challenge 🥲

[broken terrace]

triple exp is nice, but without eq you are stuck, so you cant level up anyways, so more exp doesnt really matter here

[cobalt lynx]

Very good job sirs you listened to our concern and Oasis is saved

[storm sapphire]

not to mention 100 ts 85+ take a lot of time, you can't just spam ts 73 and need to do carno ts or anything else

[storm sapphire]

oasis saved - valehir killed

[rough cairn]

why do you say that

[small inlet]

Valehir is actually doing pretty fine since jotunheim merge

Definitely enough players to play with and items sell easily on market

[main flame]

How would you even save valehir?
Announce nostale 2 that will merge with valehir or what

[broken terrace]

yes exactly, on the nosfire server you could atleast do ts73 and especially if you consider that you had quest act 1-3 already done, it was much easier to do these ts missions, but now you have to complete all ts from act 1-3 before ..

beside triple exp, i personally think it would be faster if you start a character on dv or any other server

there is litereally one c10 gun for mages in the whole nosbazar, no other c10 eq or c25 eq

for the other two classes there is literally ZERO champion eq available

and lv85 fake eq is 15kk~ right now

so triple exp doesnt help at all if you cant progress because theres no eq available

[vapid tangle]

And probably no maps available

[broken terrace]

nah maps are free, cause the majority dont have eq to even deal dmg to act 6+ mobs :P

[noble sluice]

Still waiting the FAQ @elder vine

[fast lagoon]

One year i say to whales to stop cash shop, stop spend 20k nd in the wheel every new item ect, i only do my daily 9.2 so i boycott and its not from now 😅

[fast lagoon]

I always say that too, in discord and IG

[noble sluice]

I stopped playing valehir after nf1 release

[fast lagoon]

Gg, but i cant restart. I play with my char until the end, but just for daily 9.2 and free to play since 9 months

[noble sluice]

Nah. I said I'll not play it anymore 100% and I will not do anything. I'll not login my charas from valehir until merge

[fast lagoon]

Its the best thing to do.

[elder vine]

Not today I feel

Tomorrow most likely

But they'll be pretty similar to how the ticket worked on NosFire

So you can take that as reference for now

Still, note that there will be few differences

[storm sapphire]

what about items
since that's one of the main staller people wait on to hear

[noble sluice]

Just asking:
Limited items to trade like nf?
Will we be able to transfer our gold or they will be set to 0?

[next sequoia]

oh no

the akashic hoarding begins again.....

[fast lagoon]

What about characters without BP done ? There is a minimum to transfert to Valehir Or no need to do BP ?

[swift ivy]

They shouldn't be "rewarded" with Valehir for not completing the BP, they'll just use this to keep on the "dormant accounts" that will activte if we're ever fused

[fast lagoon]

In my situation, i play on Oasis only for make 1 ou 2 alts for fun and i play on it just because it was not needed to do the BP for merge with Valehir, if we have to do like NF a minimum of BP (Was 6 on NF if i remember well) i stop now to play on Oasis ^^

[noble sluice]

It's 650 BP points. Not so hard to achieve.

[fast lagoon]

Just for fun alts, it's too much

[charred crane]

No matter how hard I think about it, there's no other benefit than getting the title rewards from the Oasis server
Even if we do a 4X EXP event a week after the release of the server
There seems to be no reason to do it, but there are so many inconveniences and drawbacks to the new server

[charred crane]

a waste of time 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[charred crane]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-pizza-hungry-starving-gif-14327980

[small quail]

Where is the FAQ ||dont run||

[broken terrace]

@elder vine Just as a constructive feedback, because i know many people including me, who wont continue to play or even begin to play on this server.

Theres actually zero eq available for the majority of players to grind beyond lv85. We have 40 days left for the BP and sadly most of these missions are only doable if you are already higher level with decent equipment. And for a casual player who plays like 1-2 hours on average each day its almost impossible to reach the 650 Points needed for the transfer. So people stop playing or not even begin to play on this server, because its really demotivating with such a hard bp.

The BP itself would be fine for a server with longer server duration or a server where you actually get the eq needed to level up faster and make use of this triple exp right now.

But for the actual state of the server, you‘re actually missing out a lot of players because how hard it is to complete the bp. So please consider MAKING AN EASIER BP with more missions that you can achieve a lot earlier than c30 or c60+. Oasis is a lv1 start server where you dont get anything. So before you can exp, you have to farm and grind your equipment. That also takes a lot of time if you only play for 1-2 hours daily. And then you also have to exp, farm some gold to upgrade your sp and your newly acquired equipment and on top of that you have to complete all these different bp missions. Its just not possible in 40 days if you have a real life and an actual job.

[broken terrace]

I understand that the BP is so hard to stop people from doing alts. But in the same way you lose some of your playerbase because of that.. and i think some of these missions like 300s valehir or act 8 ts could be swapped with some better missions that are achievable in the early game and maybe LOWER THE NUMBERS needed for many of these missions. Like 200 Raids (85+) or 100 TS (80+) and so on takes A LOT of time. Especially the TS are kinda crazy because you have to do all TS from act 1-4 then and there are actually not many ts that you can do for this mission. The only viable one is the carno ts in act 7, because ts73 is now lv73 again. The Raids are atleast somewhat useful but the TS are kinda useless, you only do it for the BP… Also the 300s Valehir is impossible with these prerooms on a fresh server.

Maybe swap some of these for missions that are actually useful for a player

• Upgrade an SP to +9
• Upgrade one Weapon to +7
• Complete 30 Instant Combats
• Reach C10

If i start on this server now, i have to spend all my time just doing the BP if i only play for 2 hours daily. Theres no time left for anything else. And i would say with 2 hours daily its still impossible to finish the BP because i need to get equipment first and then i have to exp for 1-2 hours daily. So no time left to do the BP then..

[next sequoia]

honestly, it's impossible to play nostale on timed event servers if you can only commit 2 hours a day to them. > is that bad? yes!
will they ever change it? doubt it...

[broken terrace]

Yeah its sad they only make this server for jobless hardcore grinders who play more than 8 hours daily

the majority of the playerbase are adults with a job and other responsibilities nowadays, so they cant play that much every single day for 40 days

I would be happy if they make it possible to play on servers like this for these people too

I honestly think you have to play like for more than 4 hours daily to complete the transfer if you start now if we include grinding for the gear, gold farming and leveling up

[finite terrace]

yes please make 6x exp

[broken terrace]

The exp isnt the problem here, you exp fast enough if you have the eq for it. The problem is the time needed to complete the bp to get the transfer

[main flame]

What i find crazy how few quests are actually doable before lvl 80. Even with 3x exp getting to that level takes a lot of time and efford. RN there are 2 quests I can progress - killing bosses on the maps and doing minigame raids.
I believe there should be more quests related to the act 1-3

[broken terrace]

Yes exactly this! Its a lv1 server after all but anything you can do basically starts after lv80. The BP makes no use of the lv1 start at all. Sure its because they just copy past the bp from nosfire but i think thats pretty lazy. Atleast change some of these missions to things you can achieve in the early game like some early raids or finish act 1 / act 2 / act 3 questline or stuff like that. Its sad that the Act 2 and Act 3 questline and also the early game raids are literally completely irrelevant. Theres just no purpose to do them, the rewards arent good enough and if there are not even bp missions for them, no one will do them at all.

[charred crane]

But it's not worth it
a waste of time

[noble sluice]

That's because quests are long not because they are actually hard. BTW at level 80 just with a pet (polar if you are poor or otter/panda) you can do solo a5.1 (better if with 2 alts) and farm a lot of money and exp. You can do 80-85 in like 6-7 hours (and also more than 10kk)

[next sequoia]

they even removed the gold coin ibra gear from the npc

[noble sluice]

It's not nf

[next sequoia]

doesn't mean it shouldn't be a baseline addition

[charred crane]

Realistically, it's best to buy exp up to c10 on a dv server

[pure nova]

For completely free 2 play yes, otherwise you can just do 2h LoL a day and that's enough

[rough cairn]

for me limited time server should have something like glacernon system perma-active. Something like 3-4h of gameplay max a day so they can give more bonuses instead of only x2, but also x4 xp and similar with less limited time

[noble sluice]

Then there would be no differences between nf and int svs

Getting fake eq with triple drop is easy. U just need fb, tarot and a lv.83 weapon +4 and a sp j99 set atk

[next sequoia]

doubt archers do enough dmg even at that point

[cobalt oriole]

#1269928621217153115 message just to get feedback if it helps

[pure nova]

Usually do but you don't cuz player diff yk

[tropic pond]

Hello, do you guys know when the server will be closed?

[noble sluice]

Yes they do. With fake bow you can chill in a7 and with fake dagger you can also do clol until c60. Tested and working

I'm actually doing it on oasis and it's really chill. A7 witch with fake bow I did 48k crit dmg

[finite terrace]

why is it alresdy possible to switch server?

[pliant rover]

You can use the ticket but the switch server will happen only after the server close

i guess it was disabled before but thats pretty much it

[charred crane]

If everyone can start fairly from the beginning
It was worth looking for the title
It's not worth it because it's not fair

[charred crane]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-pizza-hungry-starving-gif-14327980

[finite terrace]

we want 1 week of 4x exp because of this maintenance

https://tenor.com/view/business-man-leon-short-gif-21636355

[noble sluice]

extended 3x exp until monday

[finite terrace]

fair

[last blaze]

LF FAQ

[fossil moon]

How can i transfer my char from Oasis to another server?

[noble sluice]

650 bp points, then select DV/DE/FR

[small inlet]

Valehir chosen already

[fast lagoon]

One day we will have the new FAQ

[small quail]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-ardito-dave-ardito-naruto-naruto-run-gif-26136762

[small inlet]

When is it going to be announced what happens with accounts that dont reach BP lvl 13?

[pliant rover]

You are merged in valehir like planned

[next sequoia]

faq never

[tall river]

Is there a problem buying Nosdollars on Steam?

[fast lagoon]

Still waiting the FAQ

[onyx steeple]

[charred crane]

https://tenor.com/view/thisdrunk-drunks-goats-gif-20843731

[patent stirrup]

I d like to comment on adding transfer to other servers. In particular the achievments, as i earned Master Trainer title within over 1 year of hard pacient work, i am little confused that now the title is achievable within 1 month with less work. I d like it to be distinquished in some way because the effort is not comparable. I know now its to late to change the rewards but pre merge there should be some mechanism that distinquishes these titles. Even diffrent color would make me satissfied.

The real reason people tried to obtain the title was the respect to hard work given when seeing someone have the title as the title itself is not far better that eternal except pvp purpose. Now its no more like this after merge. Its a bit unfair to those that completed the title before in a way

[pure nova]

On which server are you? @patent stirrup

[patent stirrup]

Dv

[pure nova]

Dw bro all trainers titles are somehow going to valehir 👍

[patent stirrup]

What You mean

[pure nova]

That only valehir players played in the beginning hence the head start and they won't transfer their characters to dv so you'll still be the only master trainer in dv

[patent stirrup]

Idk nobody completed yet and i think its totally doable even with later start so im not so sure.

[pliant rover]

Makes no sense, things always get easier as time goes by, nothing keeps value overtime almost in this game

[patent stirrup]

True yet its THE hardest achievment in the game. Not some sp +20 or other stuff.

[pliant rover]

Yeah but back then fish was the hardest one and they made scrolls to make it easier

Everything gets easier when time goes by unfortunally

[patent stirrup]

Fish took like 100h. Sorry friend its not comparable.

[pliant rover]

it's the same

[patent stirrup]

It s like 100 ppl on dv probably are on the way with the title rn. And probably around 5-7 completed as for now. And in this state GF adds it to achievements. Its totally not comparable.

[pliant rover]

Yeah then i want my 2 PvP titles to be different than rush servers, i had to win real pvp tournament not kill my alts in act4 in new servers

[patent stirrup]

At least it didnt take 1 year to obtain the item itself.

[pliant rover]

yeah took way more than 1 year to win in pvp tournament and 10 times the money than to tame chickens i agree

[patent stirrup]

I guess the pvp titles should have some info of time obtained which tournament but gf is to lazy to respect hard work

Even diffrent title name with same buffs for each pvp tournament/event server would make diff.

I see this as pure disrespect.

[patent stirrup]

Btw I think its a bit diffrent situation. You spent more time/Gold to win the tournament but it was not the reason You were playing pvp. The tournament was just an addition to thousands of hours at arena/a4. But with Master trainer the award was clear from the start and everybody had to calculate effort. Its like sacrifise while when ppl build pvp they do it to play arena a4 . Pvp title is not the purpose in itself. I hope You know what i mean.

[deep jetty]

well they can have a stronger title from Nosmall and I would still put that master trainer in appearance if I had one;
you would 100% put PvP Champion on title even you use a stronger title for effect

[patent stirrup]

Agree however i feel as though my hard work has been deprecated. It is just not the same title anymore.

[proven jungle]

Considering the "achievements" on oasis, that were designed for their most "loyal" players, are basically just a bunch of tasks for the top 10 closest to going on credit and turn jobless for 2-ish months to grind only.... I doubt you'll find a satisfying result.

I'll still judge those "achievements" for not having anything for all participants to be obtainable. Should have used another name than "achievements" then imo.

[storm sapphire]

written as "most loyal players", spelled as "botters, no job players and whales"

[boreal heart]

how someone can write for "most loyal players" when new servers is a slap for players like this

[small inlet]

you can hit most of those achievements while having a job

specially since people have not been really tryharding

You just need 15ppl playing for the same goal

Regarding the master title - i wouldnt be supriced if some of them will go to dv. I saw maybe 2 or 3 people really tryharding it at the start

• after dv players came they added 5* dino into nm drops, you could buy 4/8/12x to speed your progress a lot, getting the 3x 6* title very fast. So all advantage of valehir players starting earlier was lost

And those pets were very cheap to buy

[pliant rover]

Well no valehir could buy them too since they would have money if they played from the start. And they could tame it to +50 instantly

[small inlet]

yeah ofc they could, but it still reduced the difference

And on first days you didint have enough kk for that + you didint have rep because glacernon was fully dead until dv joined

[pliant rover]

I dont really understand, its *5 pet, its useless for books iirc

[small inlet]

i had to log 50acc on glacernon to spawn the 1st raid

[small inlet]

but you get faster taming title for 2 and 3 6*

[pliant rover]

Ye ok that makes sense, you tame +50 kill them all and make some *6 for title

[small inlet]

It took most players 4/5 days to hit 500k rep

[pliant rover]

Still think players that started beforehand got more avantage than others from that, not at all dv player late comers

[small inlet]

yeah of course that gave them advantage, but not that huge

at the end its about consistency

and how many 1h tamers you spawn per day

• you need to do other things to have gold for taming, it actually is quite a lot of money

[proven jungle]

I think if server choice to transfer to were like the current version... That would be very tough to gain. Especially SP1-4 achievements where you might have to give up certain SPs for later to assure a wanted achievement.

[vapid tangle]

It's just 1 day off to get to sp4 and win.

But I think I did that when new servers were not on x2 xp 🤔

[small inlet]

Tbh for sp4 the x2 xp makes no diff

you get 55 from missions and do 1 lod and you hit 65 anyways

[gaunt hull]

Sp4 you need 2kk to get the achievement, I think it's the hardest on day 1

[vapid tangle]

The diff is when the lv65 ends 🤔
Iirc on last regional server, top 10 was filled around 8Am the next day. Kinda requires 1 day off (for launch), and prob half a day for the next one X)

[next sequoia]

just get lumps of gold from wheel day 1 :3

[vapid tangle]

Hardest was sp3. Mostly because it had a low drop rate and tons of drops

[gaunt hull]

No it was very easy, I did in 2hours

[next sequoia]

Sp3 on triple drop sounds incerdibly easy

[gaunt hull]

Just needed a little amount of golds of my crew and that was fine

[vapid tangle]

That why I said was xD.

No x2 drop and old 1% droprate was a pain and amde you vhose between sp3 or 4. Or if you can survive not falling asleep with the old ~6h quest

[gaunt hull]

Oh okk

I thought you speak about of Oasis

Et pourquoi je te parle anglais vas-y j'en ai marre tes français

🤣🤣

[vapid tangle]

Chan inter xD

#💬│général ?

[small inlet]

Do you think we will get the FAQ before the server ends?

[vapid tangle]

1 day before prob

[gaunt hull]

If u ask a question about Nostale that there is a problem

[small inlet]

imagine making 10 alts for merge to be told 1 day before server ends that accounts without BP 13 dont merge

[gaunt hull]

I think WE will get at the next server

[small inlet]

Noswater in February/March?

[gaunt hull]

Maybe december

But yes strong probability in march I think

[naive falcon]

When summer server close and i change to other server , i can change me nickname ?

[tropic pond]

Depend if someone already have the same username as your character

otherwise, i don't think it will change anything

[small inlet]

make a lvl 1 acc on the server you are transfering to

with the same name

[tropic pond]

genius 👍

[sweet junco]

double box at the end of oasis ?

Just why ?

[charred crane]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-pizza-hungry-starving-gif-14327980

[next sequoia]

GMs don't play the game and are fully out of touch

[gaunt hull]

They are crazy, IS it only on Oasis or all of the servers?

[cobalt oriole]

only oasis

[next sequoia]

dv players gonna make alts just so they can get closer to guaranteed double box

[noble sluice]

125k IC seems too much for oasis

[gaunt hull]

Maybe put this achievement for every servers or just decrease number of IC needed at 50k

[elder vine]

It's a high limit to make the maximum really worthy

The other two were not completed either

[noble sluice]

100k IC looks more resonable to me (already impossible to complete with 3 day left). Oasis has 1 channel on normal only, it's not possible for population to achieve 125k.

Or extend time limit for 72h

[proven jungle]

Might want to consider server-wide achievements that actually get achieved. Failing the first 2 and then doing that objective as third is not really something that gets people motivated

[noble sluice]

Not motivation side problem. It's just not possible if you look at people activity on the server. It was a flop from the start.

[proven jungle]

That's why I'd recommend adapting server-wide achievements to player activity of said server

Having the first one fail and adapting the following to server activity would be better for leftover players than just be argumented with "you won't get any achievement done cuz u aren't 5+ channels full"

[next sequoia]

That only goes to show that the player to goal ratio was completely miscalculated

Creating events and setting goals with the intention of them being unreachable just completely misses the point of the event

[noble sluice]

I guess the events were made before server start and they thought it was going to be a full server

[next sequoia]

They adjusted everything else in hindsight though

[gaunt hull]

Add UP SP event so we can reach SP+20 for the achievement

[noble sluice]

Close call

[marsh bay]

For me this server would be better than nosfire with normal start

[proven jungle]

if only having a casual start was part of the big problems this server has.

[bold haven]

Question about merge : Are all the inventories of the same account transferred to the destination server, or is it just the inventory of the one who completed the battle pass?

[elder vine]

All

[next sequoia]

plsplspls learn from this to make nosfire3 as great as nosfire 1 was 🙏

[proven jungle]

what happened/happens to nosfire2 ?

[fast lagoon]

Was just empty ^^

[proven jungle]

are we counting oasis as nosfire2 now?

[storm sapphire]

nosfire1 and 2 were running concurrently

[fast lagoon]

Wtf ?

Do i speak about Oasis ?

[proven jungle]

oh, I completely forgot about the secondary running server as it had no impact left in my memory

[proven jungle]

nah, but I forgot that 2 were running at same time, I had them merged as one in my memory and thus was missing a nosfire2 in my memory.

so I was trying to figure out where the 2nd came from

[noble sluice]

Nosfire 2 was the second server. Empty like valehir even if it had dv merge from d1

[next sequoia]

yeah they massively overestimated how many people would play

[storm sapphire]

for oasis? yes
for nosfire? no, people just overcrowded nf1

[smoky pilot]

Only 1 Oasis achievement wasn't done , wonder why

[noble sluice]

Final feedback on the server:

The server started off TERRIBLY. The desire to continue "SAVING" Valehir made you believe that this year too, people would flock to Oasis as they did in previous years. We had already told you in our previous feedback that it would go badly. We had told you and demonstrated this through the reactions on Discord and all the negative comments, and in response, we were told that reactions on Discord are not an indicator of the appreciation of a novelty. Instead, feedback was forwarded and ignored, and here we are with a FAILED server.

Why failed?

Trying to salvage what could be salvaged after the first week by backtracking and reopening the possibility of being merged where a player wanted, instead of forcing them to Valehir, was a desperate move due to the difficulty in even reaching the "Crowded" status on ch1.

The reasons for the server's failure were:

the stubbornness in continuing to open new servers with merges into Valehir;

backtracking after the first week regarding where players could transfer their characters when the damage was already done;

copying and pasting the old BP from NosFire;

never paying attention to our feedback.

Moreover, the server was modified mid-course, and during the last two and a half weeks, the BP was nearly impossible to complete due to the lack of people to do raids and other required activities.

The constant presence of the usual people using bots for exp (not to mention other things) was there again, and despite being the same people, they continue to play undisturbed and will once again bring c90 characters to other servers (only on NF few of them got a ban). Act 9 and the clols were monitored less than zero.

In terms of player base, it felt like being on Valehir before NosFire.

It was supposed to be a different server from NosFire (i.e., the classic INT), but it ended up being something horrible.

There are no words to express my disappointment.

I am not against new servers, to be clear, but I am against continuous and unjustified deceptions. Valehir is clearly dead as a server; stop trying to revive it. Let it die or merge it with DV. I would rather cry because I can't get into CH 1 and 2 than cry because I can't even start a marathon at random, unscheduled times, without having to organize it on Discord.

[vast ivy]

I loved a chance to get a nice character thanks to this server, and I cant wait to play on the next one with friends, that never played Nostale before :3

[gaunt hull]

I liked this server after the 1st week. (1st week was a dead server)
First of all I could get a character on the server I wanted.
I enjoyed better than Nosfire because there were not just 1 activity. I hadn't just to XP, I needed also to get my c10, c25 and c55 weapons on raid.
I didn't need to play with alts because the economy wasn't broken with multicounts IC/Glacerus/Yertirand/fafnir (start lvl1)
I enjoyed the x3 XP/drops/golds for 1 week, it helped a lot to get lvls and make money to upgrade my weapons/SP.
The achievements were a good idea. It gave rewards to people that had a good strategy to reach it and it makes the server more funny.
Events with missions were good (particulary the SP perfection and x2 boxes).
In conclusion I think that Oasis was a good server (better than Nosfire I guess if we don't count the 1st week) 
the idea of the achievements with the site makes more fun on the server and start lvl 1 make the economy better than starting lvl 80.

[shadow sentinel]

The oasis server had its issues that have been painted clearly here so I do not feel the need to rehash what was already said. However, on a positive note, the oasis server was a blessing for me.
Coming off of a 2 year break from valehir and having gave basically everything away when I departed, I was left with nothing. Oasis allowed me a cheap and quick way to get to C90 (although it was still a grind) as well as have decent gear before merging to be able to keep up wth base a9 content. Basically no alts to my name, I now have end game equipment in a very short amount of time mostly due to having reached c90 in the first place. This was all thanks to the boosts in Oasis. I for one am grateful that things like this exist for potential returning players. If the decision to allow transfer tickets to DV had no been implemented. I would have never stayed.
Yes valehir is in shambles. Yes it needs something, but it's not up to me how that happens.
With some tweaks I think another version of this could potentially be a full on success, but some of the above feedback should be considered to make the player base more at ease for future server releases. All in all, thank you!