NosFire Event Server

[midnight atlas]

Maybe 4. Couldnt do this weekend becouse 4 times glacernon was full xD

[quasi kindle]

why does the teleport to morizios still cost 30k

[lethal quartz]

10 item slots for transferring your "items" is too little

Basically asking us to take what is most of value to us, while leaving so many other things behind being deleted

Why are our items being limited to be transferred from a server that's been online for 2 months, to "main" servers that existed for years and years?

[autumn pivot]

when easier batle pass

[obsidian ibex]

it's easy if you know how to play the game

[surreal zenith]

You just need time and luck

[obsidian ibex]

No luck. Caligor will be easier join every week, cursed beast can be found during early morning or late night. Everything else is just game knowledge

[surreal zenith]

Ah okay got it.
But how do i do this when im sleeping? Just asking for my boss at work who wants me to be active while working.

Its rude to finish the whole pass.

[obsidian ibex]

For 2 quests?

[autumn pivot]

you know we are not in vacations right, most of the quest are really time consuming, i want to consume that time in making a character, not worth doing the bp if doing so gets you a low lv char

[high island]

it is easy but it is also annoying. 30 mini games? really xd?

[surreal zenith]

You just need a lot of time. No one said its complicated 😂

[obsidian ibex]

2 months of time. You can just play 1 or 2 per day.
@autumn pivot after 2h of lol you can dedicate your time for some quest. Most of them will be completed doing marathons, upgrading stuff, training while afk or doing something else, fishing for 4 hours in 2 months.

[high island]

You only have guaranteed win at sheep, you also have 30 rainbow battles, and combat arenas, All of the above are just annoying, they don't help you progress, it's time waste. If you count it all together, you have to be online for ~5h a day which not everyone wants/can do

[obsidian ibex]

Not true. Minigame raids in 2 months are doable playing them 1 or 2 times per day even if you don't win all and requires 5 minutes of you time. RB, play 1 every 2 days and you good. Combat arena is the same, just join before the end and make enough points. You just need to play around 3 hours per day (even 1 if you don't want to exp or do marathons) to clear BP if you want to talk about time waste, also playing NosTale is time waste. I cleared half of the BP quest just doing my stuff without spending days online and without focussing on them. It's not that hard as you all say.

If you want to talk about "how boring is doing X quest" it's another matter.

[high island]

Ah, Really? 1 Rb a day, 1 mini game a day, 1 combat arena a day, glacerus + draco, 2-3 ts a day, some tamer, 1-2 champ raids +2h LoL ?

[pliant solar]

„Just Need to Play around 3h per day“ 🤡

[high island]

Because you're talking about those missions ONLY, which is not correct thing to do, unless you want to transfer a lv80 character

[pliant solar]

Where is the Feedback Channel for Ppl with a Job

[high island]

Also keep in mind that, even if you were to be right, to keep on 3h for 2 months straight is not easy, probably unachieable for most people.

[plucky plume]

Yeah you gotta Invest a lot of time during the Weekend. And then GL getting into caligor, Farming map Bosses, cursed when everyone does it

[surreal zenith]

On weekends? It started with eastern 😂
Some people might got family and they want to visit them sometimes.

[plucky plume]

Yes, i lost two days there also. But its doable. Focus on Things you can do yourself at all times. Daily eleraids are after every ic.

[crude monolith]

Well MMO take some time, if you don't have time to play Nosfire you won't have time to play after on normal servers anyway

If you can't play 1-2h after work and more on week-ends it's pointless to play there

[pliant solar]

I Dont have a time Limit on normal Server^^

[crude monolith]

then play normal server '-'

[pliant solar]

Sorry! I forgot that i Talk against 90% unemplayed people

U 100% Right 💯

[crude monolith]

i work and i can play 1-2h after work

i just don't play NF cause it's not worth putting time into it but you can easily play it this way

and get ur transfer

[plucky plume]

Indeed.

[crude monolith]

But anyway why do you cry for the transfer if you cant play anyway

[sand edge]

Bro considers 2h per Day unemployed

[pliant solar]

LOL what ever, i forgot where i am 💀

[crude monolith]

Imagine u can't find 1-2h per day to play but more than 3h to cry on discord

[restive sun]

imo nosfire server is nice, although there are some drawbacks
not time consuming to do the first 88+30 if you only have 1-2 hours per day at most to do

• starting c30 you need to find people who can do the same limited timeslots to exp
• sometimes you need to skip exping to get gold/mackerel to fund the exping session
• some bp missions are just annoying but majority of them are doable and "easy" for transfer, none of the bp missions are impossible to do. it's only getting critical for the warehouse
• quite a lot of time has to be reallocated/balanced out between exping and doing bp, people do get a lot of angst feeling from the fear of not making it and having their effort wasted tho

overall the server is nice to play, it's fun and definitely achievable
it's just not recommended to anyone who isn't well versed in the game or if new, has friends/people to hard carry
good for returners with knowledge or high adapability, not so great for people starting new with barely any knowledge of nos or heavy casuals

[surreal zenith]

And i thought games are made to play and have fun WHEN you got time.
Wtf is this logic, „you have to quit youre life to get the permission to play those games“

[pliant solar]

Sure bud

[surreal zenith]

Imagine you got kids one day. Instant quit nostale? 😂

[restive sun]

free raid members

[sand edge]

not play on a rush 2 month serv yes ? 😂 wtf is wrong with you

you can't come here and say "missions are too hard' if you don't login

[crude monolith]

Yeah when i have kids i won't waste time playing "rush servers"?

[sand edge]

wtf is this logic, as you said 😂

[crude monolith]

what is wrong with people

[sand edge]

"nooo!! i want to transfer and warehouse with 30min login every 3 days!!!"

thats how you sound like here ngl

but you know that's not how it works

[surreal zenith]

He said, if you dont got time to play NF you also dont got time to Play normal servers.
I didnt mentioned that point on NF.

[crude monolith]

Like even if u "put ur life aside" to get the transfer (which is half the bp so xd), you wont be able to play the game on normal servers anyway, so whats the point

This server is for players who wants to comeback and lower the grind, but obviously GF won't "remove the grind" entierly dont be stupid

it's already omega generous of them to give you everything needed to start

[obsidian ibex]

I work since 2018, spend my evenings with fam/friends/gf (weekends most of the time because I have to work) but still play with no rush and I'm almost at half of the BP. You just have to plan your activities in game and it will be easier

[crude monolith]

And as i said above, if in your daily life you can't play video games, you are not the target for nostale or any MMo, go play fortnite idk

1-2h per day and maybe sneeking a little more on week ends is more than enough for the transfer

[obsidian ibex]

I think they want to transfer a top server c83+ character

[crude monolith]

I don't understand some players sometimes

[surreal zenith]

Its so funny right now 😂😂😂
Players which came back in reason of NF dont actual know how to grind on this kind of Server. Would be interesting if they would be able to make it without any starting boosts.

[crude monolith]

"i'm a father i cant play nf" bro growup you got other things to do

[crude monolith]

They got a stupid op starter pack and x4 xp until c60, isnt it enough help

come one please

In which game they give you this much

[surreal zenith]

Yes its enough. 100% they now every map since a5.2/a6 every raid, the mechanics.
Its hard to argue with people who dont habe a life and dont even know what other hobbies mean..

[surreal zenith]

They give us much? We have to pay thousands of euros to gamble c55/80 gear 😂😂😂😂
And maybe c82

[surreal zenith]

And still, youre argument was, if you got a RL you arent allowed to play NosTale. No one asked about NF on that point.

[sand edge]

unrelated to NF but nice try

[obsidian ibex]

It's the first speed server we have. Soon we'll have another one and it'll be normal to play on speed servers to catch up faster. Returning players will learn. Remember that now they copy all the metin2 events since they ended with the old mobile game

[surreal zenith]

Thats a general problem. But on other servers you got more equipment you could buy from other people

[crude monolith]

But i agree with you

but when do you need op eqs to get the transfer from NF?

[crude monolith]

Yeah? In which universe do people with more responsabilities spend a lot of time on videos games?

If you don't have time to enjoy a type of game, you switch to another and thats why most MMOs are dead

[surreal zenith]

We never said a lot of time. But why arent people allowed to play mmos with only 2-3 hours a week?
Thea also enjoy such games.

[obsidian ibex]

MMOs (Massively Multiplayer Online games) tend to require a lot of time to play and keep up with for several reasons:

Persistent World: MMOs typically feature persistent worlds that continue to evolve and change even when the player is not actively playing. This encourages players to log in regularly to keep track of events, updates, and changes within the game world.

Progression Systems: MMOs often have extensive progression systems, including character leveling, gear acquisition, and skill development. Advancing in these systems can require a significant time investment to achieve meaningful progress.

Social Interaction: MMOs thrive on social interaction with other players. Building relationships, joining guilds, participating in group activities, and competing in player-versus-player (PvP) battles often require coordination and time commitment.

Endless Content: Many MMOs boast vast amounts of content, including quests, dungeons, raids, and other activities. Players may feel compelled to explore and experience all the content the game has to offer, which can be a time-consuming endeavor.

Competitive Environment: In MMOs with competitive elements, such as PvP or leaderboards, players may feel pressure to stay competitive by investing more time into the game to improve their skills or acquire better gear.

Grinding: Some MMOs feature repetitive tasks or "grinding" as a means of progression. This can involve farming resources, completing repetitive quests, or engaging in other activities to obtain rewards, which can be time-intensive.

That's what an MMO is.

There are several types of games that tend to require less time to play:

Casual Games: Casual games are designed for short play sessions and often feature simple mechanics and easy-to-understand objectives. Examples include match-three puzzle games, endless runners, and simple arcade-style games.

Mobile Games: Many mobile games are designed for on-the-go play and can be enjoyed in short bursts of time. These games often have quick gameplay loops and are easily accessible on smartphones or tablets.

Indie Games: Indie games, especially those with shorter playtimes or episodic formats, can be completed in a relatively short amount of time compared to larger AAA titles. They often prioritize unique storytelling or innovative gameplay mechanics over length.

Party Games: Party games are intended for multiplayer sessions with friends or family and typically offer short, engaging gameplay experiences. Examples include games like Mario Party, Jackbox Party Pack, or Overcooked.

Puzzle Games: Puzzle games often offer bite-sized challenges that can be completed in short sessions. Whether it's solving a single puzzle or progressing through a series of levels, players can often pick up and play puzzle games for short periods of time.

Roguelikes/Roguelites: While some roguelike games can be time-consuming due to their difficulty and depth, others offer quick, randomized play sessions that can be completed in a relatively short amount of time. These games typically feature procedurally generated levels and permadeath mechanics.

That's what you want.

[crude monolith]

Nostale is literally one of the only MMOs where you can pay to skip the grind

You can enjoy nostale with little time and no $, you'll just not be competitive

but in this case, you don't join rush servers

[surreal zenith]

Okay, got it. Like wolf said before.

Youre not allowed to argue with NosTale players if you got a real life and a job.
Youre right guys! Only people with 3 hours a day are allowed to play MMO dont care if they enjoy also such kind of games.

[crude monolith]

And in any case, most eldery person with family usually play on mobile while watching tv with family, not doing marathons on nos

[obsidian ibex]

Let's remember that you can't play NosTale alone. It's not funny at all. You have to play the game with a group (medium/large) of friends. That's the only way to enjoy the game and don't have pressure on having a top character. Also, if you play this game without talking with your friends on discord, there is no fun at all.

[surreal zenith]

Thats a solo player game since a6.

[crude monolith]

See? When you are wrong you cry, i have a job and i still can play nostale

But by playing nostale i don't play other games

[surreal zenith]

But nothin else loool

[crude monolith]

I could play other games, but i wouldn't be competitive on an MMo i don't play on

it's so simple idk

people be 15 here

asking for everything in the world with no effort, grow up

"if i dont play nostale i cant grind" this thread be spreading some shocking news

[obsidian ibex]

Not true. Erenia/Zenas solo maras are only the faster way to make gold. Everything else (act 9 rn) is a group activity that you can enjoy with your fam while talking on discord. You can also enjoy talking on discord with your friends while doing solo a6 raids. Cmon, I play this game from the release and never stayed alone. My group is almost every day on discord and we have fun together.

[pliant solar]

Yeap, Thats the Avarag nostale Player HAHAHAHA

[restive sun]

for people who just want the transfer, you can just do
6x caligor
50x cook shit
2.7kk rep
1x chicken 6* +60
150x farm mangoes
2x cursed beast
30x make 4* pets
spend 25kk gold on upgrades/npc
100x mapbosses
150x ts 73

then choose between catch 800 fish or do 30x rbs
that's only for the transfer though, but all of them are easily doable and don't take that much time if spread over 2 months

[crude monolith]

nooo i can't play please give me c80 for free 😢

[surreal zenith]

The hell, no one said that trash. Youre dumb or just kidding me. No one said you have to gift the progress. Some people are happy to achieve c25

[pliant solar]

Never Said so

[crude monolith]

Start logging into nostale instead of discord maybe you'll transfer kid

[pliant solar]

Sure big guy hahahaha

[surreal zenith]

You really cant argue with those people. Im out right now

[crude monolith]

Which thanks to the devs takes 3 days on NF

[pliant solar]

Same, have a Great day :)

[crude monolith]

But it's fine, now grown adults can't manage their time and play a game without crying, pointless to help the helpless

[restive sun]

just do the ones I said, you can skip quite a lot of time consuming stuff if you just want the transfer

[crude monolith]

I know it's easy

[obsidian ibex]

• you can ask your friends that unlock the warehouse to store for you some items (like half stack of scrolls etc...)

[crude monolith]

but this people just care about themselves like little kids and don't care that they made the BP too simple, jobless people would abuse it

[restive sun]

only the warehouse is rather harsh/hard to do

[crude monolith]

They can't login and looking at what they say they think most of player base is jobless, they don't have friends 🤣

[obsidian ibex]

Imagine an easy BP that you can complete in like 20 days of casual playing. How many alt abuser will appear? A lot. You really want DV with 7 full channels with no chance to join none of them? Just play 1 to 3 characters and chill out.

[obsidian ibex]

I feel bad for them if they think that. For sure there are people with no friends/no job but they don't know that in 2024 jobs are different. If you have a degree you can find short week jobs, 8 hours a day with 3 full days of vacation per week. You can go gym, hangout with friends, stay with your gf/bf, pay bills, buy stuff for your house, watch a football game (or basketball etc...), go out and explore restaurants (that's what I do, my hobby), go to disco (that's the only thing I don't do because I hate discos), organize your own wedding too and still have time to play. I got "friends" with kids too and they have no problems organizing their days and find few hours to play.

If your job is 12h per day, monday to saturday and when you go home you are exhausted then I'm sorry but you can't play MMOs unless you pay hard.

[crude monolith]

Yeah i don't know

either they don't manage their time or they don't know how to play

but like most people have a job idk they think it's special to have a job and play video games

[restive sun]

you probably still can, just not nosfire

[obsidian ibex]

They don't know that there are seasonal jobs too, night jobs, weekend jobs too. In their mind a job is "I work every day, except sunday and half saturday". That's true only if you never got a good degree or didn't study enough in your life. There are also smartworking jobs. They literally pay you the same as a normal job. If you studied to become (ex.) a chef it's obv you'll never have time for MMOs.

[crude monolith]

i'm literally getting paid typing on discord rn

so yeah

[plucky plume]

Paid actor

[autumn pivot]

what the hell is wrong with you all ppl, some ppl don´t even want some c80 char in this, just want to come back to the game, play until c60-65 so the other servers are playable (because unless you are in dv until then it is unplayable) and not needing to stress out because all those hours can be lost cause of some randomly chosen quest, you need like 30-40 hours just doing bp quest to get the transfer and thats like half the time what lots of ppl can spend in this server

also what about the alt abuser? yes like those ppl that can do 5 hours a day and would really make a difference haven´t already like 20 alts with at least 5-6 of them being c80

just put some quest at c60 that are easy to do but you have to get there, some points for xping or killing mobs with x lv hero

[crude monolith]

Yeah but you have to understand and balance it around the abusers. If you don't wanna rush things up and don't want the stress of everything goes fast on the server, why choose a rush server in the first place

And again, a lot of players are already close to c60/mid BP and it's only been 2 weeks

theres still almost 2 full month

[autumn pivot]

you all got complacient in dv if you can't undererstand that its almost imposible in some servers to start from zero

[crude monolith]

i'm from fr but ok

[autumn pivot]

then its worts, you just dont care for news and returning

[crude monolith]

I do care about it since nosfire returners will help FR server if they go there after merge

But thing is if you don't have time to spend on the server, it's pointless to get there

it's made for people who will tryhard 2 months to get back into the game, not casuals

[restive sun]

to be absolutely fair though, at least until 88+30, it literally takes
80-85 = 2 hours lod
85+1 to 85+10 = 3 hours 6.1
85+10 to 85+30 = 7-8 hours
that's 10-11 hours for a 88+30 char in total from scratch
if we consider bp taking roughly 30-40 hours for transfer it's 1h every 2 days of progress to transfer a 88+30 char though

[surreal zenith]

Its impossible to argue with him.
His point in one sentence: if you havent 2-3 hours a day, dont play nostale.

[restive sun]

like 5-6h investment per week I'd assume

[crude monolith]

Don't play rush server that will get deleted*.

[surreal zenith]

Thats new.

[crude monolith]

Nah you just read what you want bud

[autumn pivot]

ist that what you meant?

[wraith umbra]

So funny here let me get my popcorn

[crude monolith]

. my 3rd message literally

[surreal zenith]

‚On Nf and on normal servers anyway‘ dont want to scroll up there, but you said it almost like this.

[wraith umbra]

Yes

[crude monolith]

Want to chill and play nos -> normal server, Want to tryhard -> NF

[wraith umbra]

For Bobby

[surreal zenith]

Thats the point im arguing with him the whole time. Dont know what hes about.

[wraith umbra]

Dont ask me im reading and laughing

[autumn pivot]

love ppl that change what they say every sentence because winning is more important that the point itself

[surreal zenith]

Hes just switching every second, how he need the arguments.

[crude monolith]

The statement stays, you won't be able to grind a lot on normal servers but if you still want to play nostale with low time investment at least ur char is not deleted there

But you need more than 2 braincells to understand that i'm afraid

[sand edge]

yes it's fairly easy

they are just hypocrites that doesn't login

[crude monolith]

I mean i already knew some people weren't smart about going in time server with no time to spend into it but lol

[surreal zenith]

Okay. Just tell us how smart you are.. 🤡

[autumn pivot]

then atack the person when you cant think in new points to make

[crude monolith]

Don't worry you don't need to be einstein to know that if you don't have time to spend on a game, you don't join limited time server '-'

[surreal zenith]

Thats arguing second level vicente

[autumn pivot]

he leart it in arguing 101 in college

[crude monolith]

Still looking for any argument from you expect "i dont have time to play on nos fire it's not fair"

[wraith umbra]

Thats the dumbest argument ive ever seen

[surreal zenith]

Im not playing it since i know i dont got the time for it. But you never asked. Im just taking my points into the discussion.

[crude monolith]

How so?

[sand edge]

seems like smarter than the one complaining before

[surreal zenith]

Youre unable to argue, if you dont even want to get each point.

[autumn pivot]

i sort of dont care of myself, just having friends came back to the game stressing because of bp and some not even trying because of it

[surreal zenith]

There are much people like this 🤷🏻‍♂️

[sand edge]

stressing about bp while y'all still having 1 month and a half to finish it ? quite early to stress out

[autumn pivot]

yes, because thay could spend all that time and lost it

[sand edge]

as sealson said, you need about 30-40 hours to complete bp transfer, you still have more than 40 days to finish it..

it's not even 1h per day login sigh

y'all making it way too hard while in reality it's not, it's so fucking easy to complete it to transfer

it's just a little bit boring for some quests but that's another point

[crude monolith]

they didn't even started the BP they are already crying

pointless to argue

[autumn pivot]

i started it thanks for asking

[surreal zenith]

And again, he dont know where we are, just trying to push his statement 😂

[high island]

Because people spent money and want to keep the progress they've literally paid for?

[high island]

But you can say it without even playing the server right

[high island]

Show us your character on nf

[crude monolith]

So you spend money knowing you don't have time to finish the BP and knowing before hand that you needed to do it for transfer, at some point people should be responsible with what they do no?

[crude monolith]

I don't need to play there to know how much time missions takes

[high island]

Really , so tell us Mr genius

[high island]

People do not know and can not predict how long will X take or how long they'll be able to play for the next 2 months

[crude monolith]

I already said it 1-2 hours per day is more than enough to complete it

I agree for the warehouse it's hard

transfer it's not that bad

[high island]

Also this is feedback channel, you're not even playing, wyd here?

[crude monolith]

I gave my feedback before playing it like everyone else

I just don't play it because it's more worth to play on FR atm, but thats all

If you cry about missions it's skill issues

If you need tips for those hardcore missions ask me 🤣

[high island]

You're not playing cuz you're not good enough, that's skill issue

[crude monolith]

Nah it's the opposite, i'm too good on old servers it makes the server not worth playing, i'm not noob like you '-'

[high island]

Rather you've had too much free time in your boring life

[crude monolith]

Nah i've played the game for 10 years thats all

And thats pretty funny a jobless pve player brainless tells me i have too much time 🤣

[high island]

And still go review cars you've never driven, it's great hobby

[crude monolith]

Ah yes nosfire is so much different from any other server i guess

But at least i know i can do those basic missions without being a cry baby like you

[high island]

Idk who is brainless here, one who admits that it's not worth playing, or one who is saying that missions are taking too long, because you're admitting my point and just trying to gatekeeping from making it worth because you didn't start

[crude monolith]

Oh no don't worry i agree some missions are too long, but those missions are only needed to get the warehouse as i said above

[high island]

You lack basic comprehension

[crude monolith]

But people here cry for the transfer, not the warehouse

I'd say the opposite since i know transfer is not the issue that you are crying about rn, it's the warehouse

[high island]

No one has ever said that missions are too difficult. People are just saying that they take too long. People are complaining about the battle pass as a whole not for the lv6 transfer

[crude monolith]

In nostale hard means long

nothing is hard in this game otherwise lol

maybe you created ur char yesterday idk

[high island]

So what are you talking about then? Irrelevant blabber.

[crude monolith]

But you literally ping me crying "people are afraid they may not be able to transfer"

[high island]

And me in particular was complaining about 2 or 3 missions

[crude monolith]

thats not the whole BP stop spreading lies

Or you don't know how to speak proper english idk

[crude monolith]

Yeah but i agree some like fishing are really bad

[plucky plume]

Did they communicate any changes yet to BP?

Since no maint this week, WE expect something changed next week?

[high island]

I think that my English is far better than yours, can provide documentation if you're so brave.
I never pinged you "crying" . You need to take some English course or something

[crude monolith]

ouin ouin 🤣 🥲 nooo i will lose my char if i dont play on tempo serv

[high island]

Ouin must be something french. You're the only guy who thinks long and hard are the same thing. Must be cuz you've never been either one

[crude monolith]

Nothing announced and if they moniter the Nosfire BP like server population we can expect 0 changes

[crude monolith]

Yeah ouin is the sound you make crying on ds late at the night mister jobless

[high island]

Calling me a jobless, because I have less time for nostale than you Mr 10 years 8h a day. Stop treating nostale like a job

Oh wait your career is nostale content creator XD

Might as well get promoted to a nostale twitch streamer soon

[crude monolith]

It's you treating nostale like a job thinking it's impossible to spend some time on a tempo serv to get ur char not me xD

[crude monolith]

I just do it for fun and i barely post don't need to be jealous lil guy

[high island]

XD yeahh the guy with no options goes for "I love my job" nice try lil bro. Go make another video, preferably for something you've tried this time

[crude monolith]

XDDD poor jealous guy, I have a job i'm literally getting paid roasting you on discord rn

Cry more for help on bP it's too hard

[high island]

I've seen you on int1 you were literally worse than alts but nice try lil bro

[crude monolith]

Yeah i'm not jobless like you playing every new server and crying sorry

[crude monolith]

Literal fan of me it seems

[high island]

I aM eFFiCenT fArMeR gUyS cHeCk oUt mY nEwEsT ViDeO

[crude monolith]

How cring are you btw

[high island]

Less than you talking about stuff you haven't done

[crude monolith]

Seems like you haven't done them either if you cry it's too long

[high island]

Go farm a9 bro you need that c90 for your mental wellbeing

[crude monolith]

But it's funny to say i haven't done while i did it on normal servers

For some reason you think it's different on Nosfire

[high island]

On normal servers with already developed a character, yeahh next time they should give us c90s so we can do it as fast as you

[crude monolith]

Nah it's crazy, them gifting every starter needed item expect mount was enough, gogo mister whaler on new servers

[high island]

I can whale on any server, I have a well paid job unlike your nostale video income

[crude monolith]

didn't though you needed op eqs to do chef sp

Don't worry lil whale i can too i decide not to whale and then cry here because i wasted my money like you

[high island]

You can complete them all on lv80, and transfer a lv80 character. What a great achievement.

Do it for the content man!!!!

[crude monolith]

Yeah i'll do a video to make the missions easier for players like you don't worry bud

theres some missions easily achievable with some tricks

[sand edge]

Hes so mad 😂😂😂

[high island]

Oh here is your girlfriend coming to protect you

[crude monolith]

Just jealous fan like any other it's fine "i saw you playing on int1" crazy

[surreal zenith]

Its funny how some people argue about things, they dont even know.
I mean, its easier to tell other people about how to do it, without seeing how its going right now.
@high island Its not worth to wright anything in this chat.

[sand edge]

You are beyond malding

[high island]

Definitely. He called his b plug to come back him cuz he got mad

[sand edge]

Its so funny xd

[high island]

You're bald brother...

[surreal zenith]

Its like the trashtalking tutorials „do a4 main quest to 81“ from people dont knowing how f“ impossible that was.

[tribal portal]

U are so mad you don't realize it's a troll pfp

[high island]

Those two spend 24h in game doing shifts, talking about how easy everything is

[sand edge]

Nobody said doing a4 was a good idea

[high island]

You're so irrelevant, nobody knows you

[surreal zenith]

Yes, many people told so. And also, that have been just tradh talkers like youre friend 😂

[tribal portal]

this you jobless ppl?

[sand edge]

Im not even logging in since a9 what are you talking

[high island]

Who are you again?

[sand edge]

Who are you ?

[tribal portal]

I need to be a know jobless on ds like you to see how cringe you are

I see why you are jealous of the youtube guy lol

[crude monolith]

Who are you

[high island]

Your English is so terrible, I can't even understand you

[surreal zenith]

Its like in politics. 5 people trying to argue without knowing how it is. And then arguing against the people which know it 😂

[crude monolith]

Bro

the missions are the same as BP on normal server it's not different missions xD

expect the speed run valehir i gues

[high island]

They have their own discord to ping for back up whenever someone is making them mad

[sand edge]

Bro came with the "Who are you again" like hes someone

[surreal zenith]

And the same player, same amount of players and much more side facts.
But its the same.

[crude monolith]

He wish i guess "who are you' crazy 🤣

[high island]

I need le help le helppppp azna is le bullying meee

[sand edge]

Crazy how mad his random aaah is

[tribal portal]

You are beyond cringe its crazy how mad you are

and you don't realize it it's the most funny part

[sand edge]

Hes so dogshit at the game he cant finish BP in 2month

I love it

[high island]

Said by bums that don't even play the server, get some help

Go cry on baguette server how you don't want merge cuz other servers too stronk

[sand edge]

I have friends that already finished transfer

In 2 weeks

[high island]

So you have more jobless friends other than roddyn nice.

[sand edge]

You are so mad

[crude monolith]

are you not playing on valehir playing with dog shit eqs?

[high island]

You are le maad, you've no other words in your dictionary

[sand edge]

We are not even logging in 1h per Day since a9 release

[crude monolith]

let the jobless rush server cry please

[sand edge]

People rushing serv calling other jobless nah bro

Hes the entire circus at this point

[crude monolith]

Also calling other server bad while being on VALEHIR is crazy

Now i know why hes mad 🤣

[sand edge]

🤣

[gritty flax]

I also have a friend who already finished the transfer. But he played like atleast 12 Hours every single day for the last 2 weeks. And i would guess these people spend a lot of ND to get their stuff quick enough to finish these missions fast enough. So i dont think we can use these guys as a fair measurement.

For a normal Person, you have to do

• Draco & Glace
• Atleast 1-2 ics to get enough Gold for you character and bp missions
• Exp about 1 Hour a day
• Do 1 Hour of other BP Stuff like Fishing, Pet Training, Ts and so on

So thats roughly 3 Hours a day if you directly find a Raid Team, a Group for LoD, A7 or LoL and can join ic 2 times in these 3 Hours. In Reality you have to be logged in a little bit more i would assume. For Caligor you have to be in A4 atleast half an hour before.

So to use the Server effectively i have to play atleast 3 Hours every single day. And for me, thats very hard to do, because Nos isnt the only thing i do in my freetime after the 9-5 Job. I have to cook, clean my apartment, go grocery shopping and spend time with friends and girlfriend.

And it feels like Nos only want the people that treat Nostale like a real Job, so they can play like ATLEAST 3 Hours+ every single day for the bare minimum

[sour jolt]

The only difference being that Nos doesn't want to give you money, it wants to take your money

[open talon]

I wonder why you made new char on a server where you have to rush if you have little time.

[plucky plume]

Honestly the best feedback ive read so far.

[tribal portal]

Goes to a server where the main purpose is to grind a lot totransfer then cry you can't grind a lot because you don't have time

smartest humans gathered here

[open talon]

They have been able to see the bp quests from day one. I didn't make the character there specifically for the very long quests

In my opinion they did it hoping to change the quests and since it didn't happen now they're crying

Nostale player's go brrr

[crude monolith]

Yeah idk literally what i said

If you have time to grind the new server play it, if not play dv '-'

[restive sun]

I just finished transfer, what took majority of time was doing pets to 4* brainafk

catching 800 fishes was annoying af as well

[gritty flax]

Sorry that im an Adult with responsibilitys. So im not allowed to play on event servers because i cant spend atleast 3 Hours every single day for 2 Months to play nostale.

I really dont know about that logic. I think the purpose of the Server should be to give new and old returning players the opportunity to build a good character. Nos is so grindy already and to start from scratch without spending hundreds of dollars for ND is so hard on older servers. Its so hard to find someone for LoD, for Act 6 or Act 7, because most of the players are already beyond that. And the Road to C65 from Scratch without having anything is so long, because the gold you need for costume, pet, sps, equipment, perfume and so on is sooo hard to get as a low level player without paying.

And this server is a very nice idea to give all players a good start to build your character from scratch. But in my opinion it should not be exclusive to players that rush everything and play minimum 3 hours a day. It should also be for other players with a real life, with family and friends and a job.

I would assume most of the players that rush on the server and get the transfer in 2 weeks already have a strong character on other servers. Because if you are an old returning player or a new player you need a lot more time for all these things, because you dont even know how to start properly.

[restive sun]

I can just say that it's possible to transfer now already with roughly 2 weeks investment of 2-3 hours per day at most
however, that requires know how and sacrificing time spent exping/farming gold for bp completion during the 2 weeks.
for sp, the 50+5 sp they give is sufficient for any class and following some of the 5.1 questline gives enough gold to do sp3 and sp4
the hardest to do is making a proper plan/schedule if you want to do things efficiently and quickly and be lucky on the workshift (being available at the good minigames, sheep/bushi king + having nonbraindead people there)

I agree on people not having some basic neccessarities being incredibly painful, like no mount, no pet as they arent provided for
and having to buy it for a lot of gold from people or being forced to pay is a big turn off tho

[sand edge]

wow you finished transfer? you must be unemployed !! 🫵

[restive sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1039193153669959790.gif?size=56&quality=lossless

ngl I wasted so many pet trainers by being too much afk since I could only train 7 chickens at the same time (2 normal pets, 1 chicken)

[high island]

Yea transfer, but are you going to transfer empty char? Plus youre behind with exp

[restive sun]

just to point it out that the main issue is the warehouse, not the transfer itself like some say

ofc always going to be "behind with exp" but it should be enough to reach c65 comfortably with minimum effort after those two months.
majority of time has to be spent not actively exping but getting the fking gold to afford exping
not sure if I can get the warehouse tho

[high island]

I think when people say transfer they mean both

[restive sun]

on a personal standpoint, I dont think I even have anything to transfer ngl

[sand edge]

no but like your 100% unemployed if you already have transfer right ? right? right?

your playing 24/7 right

[high island]

Neither do I, but you can see 3 grown men glazing me every time I type something

[sand edge]

or is it just maybe you play instead of crying on discord who knows

[high island]

Or maybe he plays more than your stated 1h a day

[placid wave]

just ridiculous to complain already, serv is out since 2 weeks you still have 1 month and half to complete transfer..

[sand edge]

maybe he plays 2h wow this nerd

[open talon]

this server is made tho create profit for gameforge and if u dont see it i think u are blind

[high island]

Wow.. maybe he doesn't log in but just comments on discord

[open talon]

not for new player

[high island]

Just like every game?

[sand edge]

ofc it's made to create profit

[open talon]

tell me a new player how the fk should know how to do all these quest in 2 months

[restive sun]

they arent running a charity

[open talon]

https://tenor.com/view/lolol-lol-rotfl-laugh-emoji-gif-15683012

[sand edge]

and yes i also think this serv target was returning players, not "new" players

[restive sun]

a company should always strive to make profit while making customers happy

[high island]

If possible

[open talon]

let them milk

[restive sun]

but this server is definitely not beginner/new player friendly

[open talon]

I mean only profit, they dont care about player base at all

[sand edge]

i think this serv is very well design for player base but hey we all have our opinions

[restive sun]

issue is also player mentality, "no grp if you dont have otter/panda"
so if you farm gold on a new server it takes multiple days of progress just to start unless you have a duo/trio (you dont even need panda/otter to exp like every single player states)

[open talon]

they just lazy asfuck

[high island]

That wasn't in any announcement afaik tho

[restive sun]

they dont want to disencourage new players from trying the server before making their own judgement probably
also not a good way to advertise a server as "returner/veteran" only when it could be a good way to rope in new players

but it definitely isnt newbie friendly the slightest, cuz even the transfer might be hard for them

[high island]

I agree but that's just getting new players disappointed.

Not that nostale has any new players

[restive sun]

that's true,
tho my fam has quite a bit of new players, like 5 or so, who never in the life heard or played nostale prior to this
they do get handpulled but I think they might/or have quit already after two weeks tho

[high island]

Great. But would've better if they left some bucks on the way out

[crude monolith]

They shoud let 100m

for transfer imo

it's not mucho

[cinder fern]

wtb shining blue stones for 110k ea

[crude monolith]

rich

[cinder fern]

jk

but thats one way to "transfer gold" if u have the warehouse

[jagged vapor]

Simply put it even at lv 4-5 but not 14, for new players or those who come back after years it is difficult for them now to have time to do everything, for those who say just 1h a day is enough you are right but the problem is that to do certain things you need to level and to level you need money. Those who have little time unfortunately can't do everything and above all not everyone has the chance to shopp, you also have to put into account the unforeseen events that people may have. You don't require to give away the pass because in the end you have already done it but you help those who are new and those who are back to come back and have fun without going crazy to do everything.

[surreal zenith]

Wait, how those „smart guys“ are arguing:
Then stop playing rush server \o/

[jagged vapor]

Is that sarcasm or are you serious?

[surreal zenith]

Sarcasm. Those other idiots are real about it

[bitter lynx]

idk why they got the extremly good events everytime on Early stage of the server...

[crude monolith]

agreed

should have kept bet and pp for later ngl

[bitter lynx]

the upgrade for Specialist is fine but why the perfection event???

[plucky plume]

Many people have gotten some PP from the BP. I think its reasonable.

[bitter lynx]

bro 30 pp each

you would need like 20 chars with the bp to get good use of the event???

[plucky plume]

Bro...

[bitter lynx]

you can only push your sps to perfection 20-30 and then its end with only 1 char ^^

i got my PP boxes and get from every PP stone max 30 each and

why idk why they put this event now thats stupid as hell

[surreal zenith]

Just make it +20.
You can finish the perfection on the main server.

[bitter lynx]

with which money xDD

[surreal zenith]

Just have luck.

[sand edge]

Usually you make +100 before +20 because you dont want to make a bad perf +20 sp

So its not a good time for perf event

[plucky plume]

For nosfire No. For normal Servers yes.

[surreal zenith]

Sarcasm isnt funny, if you have to explain it.

[sand edge]

Yes but theyll do the same event on both serv

I dont think they can do x event on nosfire and y event on regular server

[bitter lynx]

i think they should not do double events overall. its cool but. bro on nosfire you have not nearly the amount of PP or there amount of money to get good use of it. yea the up-event for Specialist are nice but the PP event is stupid

[sand edge]

Yep same opinion

[steel kraken]

Lv 5 bp on 10 char and you are able to upgrade you r sp+70 nice catchup 🙃

[bitter lynx]

yea nice having 10 chars thats not the reason for this server ^^

[slender vapor]

Thats because u didnt rushed for erenia/zenas duo and glace/ draco solo with x4 teams or u had enough pp

[surreal zenith]

So, it sounds like a skill issue to me, or what do you think?
😂😂

[bitter lynx]

xD

[novel raptor]

Best Event yet

[high island]

I'm trying

[plucky plume]

Skill issue indeed

[high island]

True

[quasi kindle]

again no chance to get inside caligor when bp from 6 -> 1

[surreal zenith]

Imagine you got disconnected and cant login for 3 hours cause everyone waiting for caligor

[tropic sparrow]

and 40% of them already did the BP Mission and still go in there for a small chance to do some money

[balmy ingot]

Meanwhile GF lookin’ at feedbacks

https://tenor.com/view/whistle-homer-gif-10351507

[slender vapor]

[manic hollow]

m

[plucky plume]

@proven tinsel Hello good sir, do we expect any changes to current nosfire battlepass, or anything regarding this speed server at all? Or we just gonna wait for the next one to do better?

[sick swift]

You have 2 MONTHS to complete

Stop crying y'all

[plucky plume]

Im very aware of that, thanks. I got my transfer a week ago. Just asking.

Also since you are not dave, please try to not respond.

[sick swift]

It's hard not to answer when you want everything served on a golden platter.

Apart from the fact that you already have a big boost for anything and you still don't have enough.

[tropic sparrow]

idk right now the Belial Raid is disabled, so i cant access those 100 points

[surreal zenith]

Just play more Caligors

[indigo aurora]

I mean.... there are a lot of stupid quests that are not possible to be done 😄 Cursed mobs, Caligor etc 😛

So something should be done with the BP - that's true, do not make it easier but make it possible 😛

[quiet sleet]

Can we have fairies transfer without warehouse ? bcs if some player get transfer without warehouse he will keep sp but without all fairies ?

For the future answer I have warehouse so idc i will have all my fairies but its stupid af for other ppl

[slender vapor]

Agree.
23 crused mob should be change with 500 pollutus raido.
Caligo should be change with 10.000 kiro

[plucky plume]

np can do 600 pollus per week

[open talon]

https://tenor.com/view/lolol-lol-rotfl-laugh-emoji-gif-15683012

[proven tinsel]

Hello, we're open to apply changes if we see people are really struggling with it

But there is still more than one month to go, people get a bit desperate for not being able to rush it, so perception of the progress may be a bit distorted

[plucky plume]

Good Info, i'll keep it in mind ty

[tropic sparrow]

What about those 150 Battlepoints i cant reach for now?

I didnt do the Belial Raid Quest yet, now i cant.
And im pretty unsure when you can make Belials again

[proven tinsel]

Don't worry about that, it'll be back way before the temp server ends 😛

[crude monolith]

9.2 before server end or not

[proven tinsel]

No xD

Would not be convenient to have both things running at the same time

[carmine crystal]

There is hopium then

[ionic barn]

What about caligor? Still havent had any luck to enter caligor. I have 1/6. People Spam it with Lots of alts and others dont get in to it.

[proven tinsel]

As said many times, we are monitoring the progress and if any adjustment is needed at some point, we will do it 🙂

[ionic barn]

Well not many weekends left ... act4 is full way before caligor and i dont See any purpose on wasting 1 hour before to afk in act4 Just to not be able to enter caligor...idk im not the only one

Monitoring is fine as is, but Still people who have finished the bp will Spam with alts Just to get as many seals and possible chests from caligor (which is 100% understandable). And "skipping" this quest will not give me the bp rewards...

[proven tinsel]

This answer still applies to that concern

[surreal zenith]

I think, one part of the problem is, that this answer ist just a like movie with open end.
A few people (like me also) stopped playing cause we/i didnt thought we can make it in time.

And thats the issue im thinking of: Its hard to play "cause maybe" something will happen..
If not, everything can get deleted (even if its just equipment i tried to safe or something else high value).
But if it will, we stopped playing for no reason.

[carmine crystal]

Issue with the game is that the people balancing it are so focused on people just doing everything with alts and multipling rewards over and over by just abusing that.

They stopped thinking about normal human beings, not playing 6h a day with 15 different characters to progress in the game.

Its been the same since 6.1 release and it hasnt stopped since then, they need to give a stop to this behaviour and game balancing system.

Stop thinking that every user wants to play 6h a day with 15 diff characters.

Making the math of how long does it take to complete the BP is stupid, it shouldnt have ever been set this way, with time gated stuff requiring you to even do things that give you 0 literaly 0 towards your character progression (chef, trainer and fish as an example)

[restive sun]

already told people workaround to always be able to join caligor regardless

[surreal zenith]

Youre right, there are other ways, but that shouldnt be the normal way.
Right now it will work, next time there wont be a second server (maybe) and it wont work. Repeating the missions "cause it worked last time".

And Valhir got a solid point. But thats something, what depends of youre culture.

The polish guys are playing 32 hours a day, some french people are saying, that you arend allowed to play with just a few hours a week.

(And i know, not everyone is the same. But thats the point you get on discord)

[restive sun]

personally think that most of the bp missions are doable with the given 2 months

only issue is that you wont be able to progress well enough unless you hardcore grind for extended periods of time because some of the missions are excessive with the amount needed and could need some tuning or adjustments (i.e 150x timespaces above 85 or making chicken to 6*. changing it to "make 2pets 6*" would already be much better instead of wasting resources and time on it)

[ionic barn]

Thats what bobbilein is saying. Unless u hardcore Grind 24/7 (which is not possible as worker) you have to give up on other necessary stuff.

[surreal zenith]

Jup. Thats my Point 🙂
And i dont have to play a rush Server, if i would progress more with the same time on my regular server.
Thats the wrong way.

And in my opinion, if you try to get more players, or try to get old player back to the game, its probably the wrong way. If they would have 10 hours a day, they never had a reason to quit.

[ionic barn]

I dont even have my taamer Job 40 because no time. No chicken nor panda 6 Star

[restive sun]

I mean, what lvl are you rn? you probably rushed and pushed exp first

[ionic barn]

The idea of the Event Server itself is awesome, way better than dead int Servers after few weeks. But the remove of Character after the Server will fear people who not giga Grind or have the time to Do bp to immediately quit

[ionic barn]

I am c80, but i had 2 weeks of holidays which i had to take anyways due my Company rules, but did 2 hours daily lol after. Still. I play the game since 2008 and know enough of the game. It always comes down to managing what you Do. But i only Do 2 hours of lol and 2 hours of raids daily. Not more possible

[crude monolith]

4h daily and u think bp is impossible?

[restive sun]

I think you would still be able to fully do bp, currently at c55 but from day 4 or 5 to now I just only dedicated my 1-2h time to the bp without exping, pretty much at the warehouse once I hit c65 (haven't done any raids at all so far) first 4-5 days were just hitting 80 to 88+30

[ionic barn]

If i only do bp and skip all other yea possible. I can do almost all, but the caligor and Same others like fight Arena which are tied to other Timings are always bad

[restive sun]

though it does make you being excluded from raids for a longer while though xD

[ionic barn]

Yeah and i dont want to skip a9 progress. That is of course a "my " Problem. But still as Bobbilein said, you have ongoing issues with stuff like caligor which they know since years. Capped on amount of Player and Server capacity

[restive sun]

imo, 99+65 + transfer/warehouse is nicely doable within those 2 months
c80+ no way unless you spend more time on it

[crude monolith]

True, transfer is easy tho, only the warehouse is hard and boring

[ionic barn]

Maybe we are Just crying on high Niveau but i feel more exhausted than on int4 where i did not even have holidays. Ppl with no Job can Just play 24/7

[restive sun]

it just depends on the goal the player has
I doubt that people who enjoy new servers with a lot of people and fresh air who just tryna vibe get further than transfer + c30 or so

some people want to rush c90 which is extremely unlikely given the time frame + bp missions

at least when you have a normal working schedule or the likes

[ionic barn]

That is 100% true. But for the New people (who even starts nostale New....) there is Tons of gaps anyways and playing 2 months to get your character deleted is Just yikes

[restive sun]

would never recommend nosfire to actual newcomers, starting at lvl 80 with a lot of gaps is super harmful for them unless they get hardcarried by veteran fam members throughout the game

[ionic barn]

I like it as Veteran if i May call myself that, you can Just exp freely (unless act9 maps since they did not get increased - why even- yeah they think not many people will reach 80) so my biggest concern was always act9 maps and act9 raids. But i get it that the Server was not ment to be a giga rush

The Problem i have with that is that so many people lock the maps with their bots and they dont even get banned. And if groups of 3 Spam a9 maps and dont get banned idk where to exp

After c83 u dont even get exp on lol anymore. Guess i wait until my old Server then

I have not seen any mmo like nostale with so many bots , only Lost ark looks worse. But eh who am i to judge that.

[steel kraken]

Still looking for the "quadrupling" the reward event

[sour jolt]

Release a box that has pet/partner food, my god

how hard can it be

[high island]

If your goal was c65 I think you could achieve it on any server for less time

[restive sun]

very doubtful if we are going for a veteran returning player who is taking up the chance to make a main on a new server or want to have a strong alt with lifestyle books and decent tats when he cant afford the latter on the main server.

if you already have a built char that is 99+80 or possibly higher or cash a lot, it is obviously taking a shorter time to just raise him to a certain degree simply because you already have the neccessary funds and capability for that char

someone who does not have a main but the knowledge and want to switch server from i.e valehir to dragonveil, it is a good opportunity and tremendously shortens their time spent on all regards

[slender vapor]

the problem of nosfire is that when u reach c80 as a new player, you still need billions ofbillions to catch up the old players on old serveru

[restive sun]

like the classic nos, it's just rng when and how long you need to catch up.
exping is majority of your time spent which is one of the only non rng progression you ever see in nostale
people already have +16+100 sps, c80 eq and 1b worth of shells after 3 weeks in just a matter of money and luck

[plucky plume]

Nosfire did a9 raids a few days ago already. Kinda impressive how far you can go within a month If you have the time and money to push.

[pliant solar]

Impressive to be jobless and spend all your Money left in Nos

[carmine crystal]

true

[plucky plume]

Not everyone investing time and money is jobless, but you got this bro

[pliant solar]

Lol

[crude monolith]

Jobless cant whale usually but hes just jealous ig

[restive sun]

to be technically correct, it's possible if you are german due to bürgergeld xD

[slender vapor]

BURGERGELD? is it something with hamburger?

[high island]

yes, you eat hamburgers from burgerking and get burgergeld

[slender vapor]

[south tree]

will there be a way to change names

[restive sun]

namechange item

[south tree]

do i have to pay for it or is it given

[restive sun]

pay

[south tree]

where i don't see it in nosmall

[surreal zenith]

Why you should buy a namechange?
I thought, you have to change the name anyway with the transfer

[restive sun]

it's not on nosfire, after server ends, you can buy it from nosmall for 250 nd

[restive sun]

if the name isn't taken, obviously you don't have to rename.
if it is, then your name has to change

[south tree]

isn't there a given one tho my Friends are saying they give us at the end

of the server

so i don't have to pay since it's taken

[restive sun]

you don't get one for free
what happens is, if your name was taken already, then you have to force rename your character (that's free)
if you want to change your name now which is available, you don't have to change your name

[south tree]

yes i know that's what i meant in the server i want to change there is already 1 account with the name i have in nosfire

[plucky plume]

not possible, they stated at the start due to "techical limitations".

[high island]

He can use name change item on the character on the other server so after transfer name won't be taken ig

[gloomy ruin]

But I dont think it is his account on the server he wants to change to

[proven tinsel]

Hello, how is it going with the battle pass

[restive sun]

it was overall very doable, a lot of people I know finished the bp as well

only thing I'd have changed is

• the amount of timespace needed lowered a bit. while definitely doable, it is a waste of time because there are much better things to run/do for gold (in case you do ts73 for the bp) and it's a huge time sink on a limited time server
• minigames win condition adjusted (meteor dodge survive 3-4 rounds instead of winning it completely, bushi king raid to 160 activity points regardless of win, sheep is fine)
• maybe replace big mangoes for onions, or at least partially. most just had to sell mangoes to npc because it isnt really realistic (and it was physically impossible) to do cooking book on the server due to time. onions are at least required for early craft and the entrylvl would be c1 vs c10
• increase chicken trainingslvl to 60 was contraproductive for progression as well because in the end, you just have to delete it. perhaps split the mission to train a pet to trainingslvl 60 and evolve 10 pets to 5 star. time wise it would be the same, just that you can now have 2 6 stars of your choice instead of 1 and a chicken that takes space

[plucky plume]

If you invested enough time, it was easy.

Timespace amount was pretty bad. 130x Carno TS? Whats the point.
Minigames: Doable, if you only go for sheep for example.

Would be nice to have adjustements faster, and not during the last two weeks. A lot of people have finished the BP a month in. Make it more beginner/returner friendly.

[surreal zenith]

Also a few people dont even started because it wasnt sure if or how it will be adjusted.

[tropic sparrow]

Sealson did some good critisism, i agree to all his points

[gritty flax]

Maybe reduce respawn time for cursed Monsters and reduce the Gold drop from these, so its easier to find them. If there will be only 1 Nosfire Server it might be annoying to do this Mission. And for the new Server make caligor more accesible from the start

And maybe include Partner medicine and Gourmet pet Food 30x to the large starter Package

[restive sun]

for cursed mobs on nosfire specifically add 2-3 cursed mobs that have no gold drop and it is fine

some people farm them for gold specifically making it more scarce too

that way we would have ppl who still farm them for gold + people who can do it for bp mission

[sour jolt]

Imo, 150 TS is craaaazy - TS73 was a very good way to make money in the first 2-3 weeks of the server but then it just became a waste of time.

I'd even reduce it down to 'it was only good in the first week' because, tbh, A5.1 gold was a lot (imo) better and less braindead

[high island]

I thought the same. Though when i started doing them it wasn't too long as duo.. I rather that than mini games or combat arena XD

less than 4h as duo

[plucky plume]

@proven tinsel perhaps you know? Will fairys (nosmall ones) be transfered? Whats with things like ancelloan, other nosmall items in general? Do we have to use them or put in warehouse if we have?

[proven tinsel]

Hello, they must be equiped or in the warehouse, yes

Otherwise they're gone with the rest of the inventories

[plucky plume]

Hm okay, so if people invested buying them from nosmall, thats deleted Money/items then

[proven tinsel]

Yes, being purchased from the NosMall doesn't flag the item differently

So the items that are transferred are inventory-based, not item-based. This means that what we transfer are certain inventories as a whole (equipped items, SP inventory and costume inventory, plus the warehouse inventory). That's why, for example, a SP that's in the regular inventory is not transferred, while one that's in the SP inventory is.

[restive sun]

the quest items gonna need refund after merge

[proven tinsel]

Good point

[restive sun]

already asked jophiel for potentially next nosfire if [drop],[transaction],[sale] items (those are mainly quest and limited items) are included for transfer next time, as of now not possible for this one but they will check

[high island]

Let that alone, premium mounts fairies, 2ndary weapon sets, everything would be gone. 10 spaces are simply not enough

[surreal zenith]

That was known since day one.

im sorry to be such a bad guy, but thats the problem of each player, who bought anything like this.

[high island]

I won't cry for 800 Nd, this thread is to give feedback to the nf servers and that's what I'm doing

[obsidian ibex]

I don't think there are solo players into NosFire. You must have friends that have free slots or just alts.

[high island]

Not many people have alts with wh

[plucky plume]

I would be curious if they have statistics on how many people reached lv 14/20

[obsidian ibex]

They do

[high island]

I'd love to see statistics of how many characters go to each server as well

[potent lark]

gimme the jotun/vale numbers

[high island]

They can't make statistic how many used this server as a chance to leave them so can't see the negative numbers sadd

[plucky plume]

I know at least two Players that will Join jouten

[obsidian ibex]

You're trying everything to fake Valehir activity and avoid a real merge in the near future. 🤡

[cinder fern]

yeah it should have been told in the beginning of the server, they were too afraid of "farming alts for only 300 pts instead of 700"

[potent lark]

reaaaaal

[high island]

new players or just old jotun

[plucky plume]

Old jouten

No new sane player will join a dead server.

300 for valehir? Hahahah

[high island]

That will fake some activity or something because the number of 0 is probably not liked

[plucky plume]

200 for jouten pls

[potent lark]

Is it right that stuff that is equipped by partners will transfer too?

as this just mentions what your character specifically has equipped

[surreal zenith]

Thats correct.

You can equip youre Partners with high value ressistance to get transferred without using one of the ten slots.

[proven tinsel]

We are not trying to fake anything. We decided to do that to help a bit with the activity on INT - result of your insistent feedback

As said many times before, there are reasons to not want to merge the INT servers with any other server

But hey, if you don't want to have anyone new in INT, fine, but don't complain later about low activity

[plucky plume]

Whats the point of that? Someone who has barely 300 points did not get anything done during those two months and wont be able to catch up on this server?

[proven tinsel]

It's impossible to create new characters on NosTale then

Imagine someone who starts from scratch

[plucky plume]

Yeah, go ahead and create a new character on valehir and play for a month. Lets see how far you come

And how fast you gonna quit because there are barely any possibilitys for a new(er) player to catch up on dead servers?

[proven tinsel]

Luckily for the people who will be included in that move, they don't start from scratch 😄

But as said

If you prefer we just don't bring new people to the server

[plucky plume]

I honestly would prefer to merge into two big servers in total, and a nosfire launch every 6 months for people to decide if they want to go A or B.

[proven tinsel]

As said, INT won't be merged with DV or FR/DE, there are reasons for it

[plucky plume]

Also once entwell/gf decided that they sell character transfers servers like any int will be dead.

I dont see a reason to delay the merge of jouten/valehir or what ever else there is into big servers.

[proven tinsel]

So that's the reality, if we can find a way to help the server besides that, we do, but if that help is not wanted, we just stop trying 🤷

[plucky plume]

Its just playing time in my honest opinion. I can monitor the activity every day on jouten if you want once nosfire has shut down.

[proven tinsel]

idk, you are against everything before it ever happened

Pointless to discuss

[plucky plume]

Im not against the idea.

Joutenheim died after a few months, that merge to valehir won't change anything. Soon you gonna have people complain again. And thats for a reason.

I just think, you guys (or girls) dont think forward into the future enough.

[proven tinsel]

We do, but as said, pointless to discuss

[plucky plume]

Would it be possible, to state those reasons?

[proven tinsel]

FR/DE were stated already, but I say again, it's pointless to discuss. You have your idea and that's not gonna change, no matter how many arguments I tell you

[plucky plume]

And the reason for DV?

[proven tinsel]

Overpopulation to start with, but not only

[plucky plume]

And do you have any countermeasures now, that nosfire ends and a lot more characters, will be joining that server?

[proven tinsel]

Many people just don't use their INT characters. In the moment they are merged with DV, they will start to, and that can explode badly. INT situation is partially an autosabotage

[plucky plume]

Yeah, the players that want to play gave up all of their int characters and went into dv.

[slender vapor]

I think it would be usless because most of ppls reached lv.6 are prob alts and if the main is in DV the alts in INT would not be played

[slender vapor]

Thats because the main is in DV

[plucky plume]

Can we get a feedback for channel for the 300 points into valehir merge? Would like to see what other players think of that.

[proven tinsel]

This is the channel

It's NosFire related

[plucky plume]

Oh ok, I'll quiet down and wait for other responses then.

[slender vapor]

The mistake was to release a 2nd and 3rd int in this way many players lvl up other charater for a future giga merge

[crude monolith]

Poor people who will merge nf to valehir with 0 gold on server where everything cost 1b

[agile saddle]

Imagine they dont want to merge Valehir with an other server but one year ago they Merged US server (very old server) with Valehir

[surreal zenith]

Its like the garbage container, for trash server

[cursive pier]

Only alts incoming so they can say "experiment was succesfull" Vale is healthy server now. And maybe those 20 legit players will quit in a week,when they see our prices

[high island]

That is indeed one of nostales biggest issues

[high island]

What are the reasons?

[autumn pivot]

and then why theia got merged, we got firts with usa and then an int just to be now stuck in a dead end

We weren't international but US-Cylloan, and we were transferred to Europe to make it easier to merge us. Now that we have merged internationally, we are somehow in an even worse position, with more lag and the same number of possible merges as before

[high island]

No. Even after Jotun merge we won't have 20 legit players. Further more if you check how many left it's definitely negative number of players who joined

Also what's with saying that int server won't be merged? Then close it? El o el

[cursive pier]

True yea. Actually so many ppl left vale for nosfire and going to dv/de now,its gonna be negative. They need to boost their data with fake numbers,so when we complain about chit merge,they can say you got alot of new players

[plucky plume]

DE is straight against speaking non german, france the same i guess. The "community" has raised their voice against it.

[plucky plume]

.

[high island]

I don't think any of the merged into dv communities liked speaking other languages. They still don't and speak their language. That reason is so invalid.

[plucky plume]

Im not saying that its valid. I've stated my opinion on that above

[tropic sparrow]

At which hour does Nosfire close?

[plucky plume]

We started a poll, where people go from our fam. Currently its 93% DV.

[high island]

In numbers?

[plucky plume]

I'll Update later tonight when more people have put in their vote.

15 DV
1 valehir
2 jouten
0 Cosmos
1 DE

for now.

[obsidian ibex]

https://take.quiz-maker.com/poll5141738x305a4028-155 this poll was made before nf start.

[proven tinsel]

Maintenance start, to be confirmed later

[plucky plume]

How does the staff think about seeing that 80% of the nosfire Accounts/characters will be looking to Transfer into DV? It was an issue, for months that DV was overpopulated.
Was it a mistake to allow to merge into DV from NF from the start?

[proven tinsel]

I don't believe it is a mistake, no

[plucky plume]

Is there any chance you guys publish the numbers of characters that transfered into their respective servers?

[proven tinsel]

No, I don't think so

[plucky plume]

Hm ok. Was just curious about exact numbers.

[indigo aurora]

So.. when we're done with merging NosFire into Dragonveil will you, for example, enable IC on more than 3 channels? For example 1-2-3-4? And maybe add new exping spots?

[proven tinsel]

What do you mean exactly with new exping spots?

Regarding IC, it's not something we considered for now, but I can forward that and monitor activity the first days to see how to approach that topic

[indigo aurora]

By 'new exping spots' I mean anything that can improve the accessibility of places where you can exp/mob. During peak hours (after-work, after-school) usually it is like REALLY hard to find a place where you can exp. Not mentioning XP Events 😛

And also I think that IC monitoring should start a while ago since channels 1-2-3 are usually full during previously mentioned peak hours

[proven tinsel]

There's not really a way to implement something like that in a "right away" sense

The exp spots I mean

[indigo aurora]

Probably, but on NosFire you did something to fix this. Added more maps. I know it's not 'clean' but better than nothing right

[restive sun]

exping time spaces are planned/in consideration according to jophiel

[indigo aurora]

That sounds nice

[crude monolith]

LoL is the way, but they need to buff it to make it more appealing (adding act9 drops)

[restive sun]

for 30-81 yes, for 1-30 it is still terrible

[crude monolith]

30-90 now

[restive sun]

81-90 you exp on map

[crude monolith]

no lol is oppy

14% at c87 no xp event

[restive sun]

exp is good but I need drops

[crude monolith]

thats why i said add drops a9 in lol

[slender vapor]

Thats why they need to add item in LoL. When more ppls jump to c90 mushroom will stay at 500k fixed

Even if they reduce plate

Because if u dont have map to xp

You go to LoL

[high island]

And what are you going to do about valehirs decreasing population? Double exp forever?

[obsidian ibex]

No. Just praying that new and returning people will play on it (not gonna happen).

[high island]

Whenever a person asks me which server he should pick I tell them anything but valehir

We have no lod fams. No c30 LoL fams, either combined with all the economy issues what's a new player gonna do there?

[obsidian ibex]

No new players will go on Valehir. Almost every player that picked valehir is going there because they can abuse more with their main character and their brand new free high level alts.

[high island]

Completely agreed. Yes we will get Jotunheim merged to us, but they're less than 25 actual players

[obsidian ibex]

Their hope is that with nosfire transfer + jotun merge, the server will take a breath. My prediction is:
1 week peak of activities for trading stuff. 1 more week for a9.2 and sp11 update. After that, the situation will be like before nosfire release. Terrible af.

[high island]

And the statement "We won't merge valehir to dv because many people will get additional alts" means that GF realizes that they made a mess but we the remaining players have to pay for it . If you don't want to do that then give us some super hard battle pass with moving box just like nosfire but we'd keep all our stuff or at least big warehouse.

[storm crown]

Well better let valehir die finally 😂

[obsidian ibex]

The statement is "We are scared of merging Valehir into DV because the amount of returning players would be huge and DV would be too full and unstable".

[high island]

Is it any different?

[plucky plume]

Any predictions how DV will look tmrw after 6 pm?

[storm crown]

Still in maintenence

[high island]

EXPLODED

[slender vapor]

well if DV explode they need to adjust their game engine finally

[proven tinsel]

As said multiple times, we'll see how things go after the merge

[south tree]

is it normal that i can't enter nostale

[proven tinsel]

We're in maintenance

[high island]

Ok we will keep you updated

[plucky steeple]

No GM Evets? Sadge

[gloomy ruin]

Nah people who do LoL only instead of exping in map shouldnt be rewarded with materials. Let people who exp in map reap the rewards by being able to sell their mats for hundreds of millions 🙂

If you go c30 to c60 in LoL you arent getting stacks of obsidians you wouldve gotten in a7 either.

[restive sun]

you get to choose either fast exp - or exp + mats tbh

exp could be minimal higher for lol tho

[high island]

No1 would do it for slightly better exp. If its twice better than maps then that's different

[gloomy ruin]

Right now its probably 1.8x map exp and I know more ppl who do the LoL than farm on map. Not having mats and fairy exp is their own fault at this point

[high island]

1.8 is acceptable

Is it 1.8x with all boosts or?

[gloomy ruin]

They should increase the exp on mushroom map slightly though, most people mob lab side now for exp or feels like it. Yea 1.8x is with most boosts, idk about mother nature tho.

[high island]

I think it would be fine if they compensate the less exp with far greater loot

So people can pick those maps for mats

[gloomy ruin]

Yes, but this is not the case. You need 1850 wires 2000 mushrooms for main eq, their prices are pretty close. Sure it would kinda even out but still a lil incentive to exp on either side is nice. Also people kinda have to pick a side now after they chose their fairy...

[restive sun]

they would, a lot of rich players exp in lol while buying all mats from other players without exping an hour on map so far tbh

only issue I see are that c90 bots arent banned

and required armour plates are a bit too much

[sand edge]

For me its 1.5, 10% on maps 15% LoL

[high island]

Don't get me wrong I'll do the same but not for 10 vs 12% difference

[restive sun]

that's why I said exp could be slightly higher though

[high island]

How many people in lol

[restive sun]

should be 4 for ruler

[crude monolith]

3

removed his sword alt was making him loose xp

[sand edge]

nah 3

my swordman was too weak

[restive sun]

ah but free voke char now

[sand edge]

nah 1 gravi + 3 panda is enough

not gonna pay 100 divine per hour for more lure

[restive sun]

my grav to weak to kill centaurs
and my group of 4 only has 2 vokes in total so getting additional war might be good

[plucky plume]

this guy knew

[south tree]

how will we change our names like when we enter the server there will be a notification?

[proven tinsel]

Similar to server merges

You'll get a window that forces you to change the name of the char

In order to log-in

[south tree]

oh ok

[indigo aurora]

@proven tinsel Jesus christ, the lags are unbearable after yesterday merge. Dragonveil is not overcrowded at all

[proven tinsel]

Hello

What kind of lags? Is anyone else experiecing it? I didn't read any report about a general issue with lags

[surreal zenith]

uh, and since yesterday we got some kind of random disconnects on Alzanor (like usual after a Maintance). But today some kind of log-in difficulties stacked on it. maybe its a relevant information

[indigo aurora]

Complete hang, which is not related to internet cause I'm not getting DC. Which points to server hang

Not mentioning random DCs xd