Rebirth Level - Idea

[strong elm]

As the name suggests, I would like to introduce the idea of Rebirths level. Instead of only increasing the C-level for new Acts, I would prefer to increase the difficulty significantly for maximum grinding.

Rebirth (RB) level:

• After you reach 99+80 you can choose to rebirth which means your level will be reset and you will be back to level 1 with RB 1.
• C80 level equipment and Specialists should still be usable with RB 1, so that it will be easier to increase your level again. As RB 1 equals 99+80.
• You will then get an exp boost that is only available to those who have RB and this boost also increases the further up you go in RB, which means as an example:
  RB 1= 100%, RB 2= 200%... RB 10= 1000% or RB 1-2: 100% 3-4: 200%... 9-10: 500%.(possibly to high)
• RB should be capped at 10 and the first RB equipment should be available at RB 4/5 and the last RB 9/10. (can be changed)
• New leveling maps should be available starting at RB 2 so that players have to grind at least once more to 99+80 before they can enter the new leveling maps.

(And if you ask how much I want to level grind? My answer would be: YES!)

Maybe the new Act design could be, as we only gone up in the sky recently, underground like a crystal mining map.

If you like this idea or want to give me any constructive feedback, then please do so 🙂

[tidal lion]

1. Copypaste prestiges from pservers, ideated many years ago.
2. What's the point of rebirth to lv1 to exp again with an exp buff, 10 times just for a new equipment?

[strong elm]

First I never played any p severs and so I cannot have copy pasted it from there. Its my own Idea if you believe me or not. But thanks for the constructive feedback. Second: why not?

[midnight heron]

2. because thats the nature of MMOs
   MMOs are never-ending progression games so equipments have to be upped overtime endlessly to maintain relevancy to the playerbase so they can be "entertained/distracted"
   The idea is honestly no much different than just slapping c90 and adding eq for c90, it's honestly just flavor text

But I think it's okay
mainly for the reason that the advantage of this over just upping levels is visual clearance
replacing by resetting the level with a ✨ tm ✨ essentially; is at least visually more appealing than clv capping at c99 and then adding new system then you have
freaking

99+99+10 and that just looks silly

[deep robin]

I just see 1 problem, and it has really nothing to do with the suggestion, so, i'm ok with the suggestion, i like progressing on levels and getting stronger with better gear etc, but in this game, i have a problem with farming maps, i have a lot of friends that totally have clv1 to 30, because in x2 events, it's literally torture to find empty maps to farm, and when you are in one, i had a few people just go ahead and start killing, when you're using boosts like ancelloan etc, seen lots of people just don't reach c30 because of that, and just leave the game when the x2 ends, because they just didn't find map, or people to go lvl with, i think that needs to be solved in some way.

I know, this is an MMO, and interacting with other people is one of the points of it, but when i'm farming with a 3 people group, i don't really need to interact with anyone else in a way that hurts the group, i think making some kind of farming map, that can be entered in group, could be nice, something like a lod or lol, but for groups, and has the same enemys that the public map has, idk what you guys think about it?

[midnight heron]

well that's kind of why LoL (cLoD) was made

[strong elm]

You could make your own suggestion on this, I think people would agree that some maps that are just for farming could be interesting, but those that solve your other problem should then maybe be guild bound or a timespace so that you cannot get griefed from other players.

[brave thistle]

lol rebirth nostale modern warfare 2

[dry forge]

Hmm. I'm fine with the idea personally, but I think implementing so much grinding at once would be overkill. They always released leveling in small waves after champion level was introduced. To be able to completely restart what is essentially new game +, multiple times would be too much at once. This idea exists under the precursor that is hitting the absolute cap level. But is c80 really cap? I think not. Likely they want to go to c99, or c100 to round it off nicely. The rebirth idea in itself is a fine idea, but it doesn't really fit the mold that is an mmo. Possible once we hit confirmed champion level this can be explored, and instead of adding level(champ)(insertnewflashyexpgrindhere) we can have this instead. Hopefully this ramble made sense. Good idea, maybe just too early.

[vernal juniper]

I like it but i think would be better like add a tittle and a sp in last RB so there will be another reason for get max RB

[deep robin]

I'd imagine they would add it in waves, like 1st update RB 1 and 2, having the first new gear on RB 2, then till RB5 with more gear there and so on, that should come with new maps etc, to not just stay for 99+80 levels on the same map 10 times....

[compact ginkgo]

I think there should be more added benefit to the rebirth, since it's such a huge commitment, for example a 5% to 10% boost to damage and defense. Make it atleast worth it something, instead new numbers and possibly EQ.

[vernal juniper]

Yeah, that could be good, and with specials maps, i can,t imagine 60 persons or more in the same map

[deep robin]

yes, but I had the worst experience in my life on any game getting from clv1 to clv30 because during x2 exp event there was no maps available during the time-zone I can play the game, past that was all good. anyway, i made the suggestion as Julius said, we'll see if it gets some attention, it's up to debate how it could be applied anyway.

[regal garnet]

LoL is sadly not enough to exp(if you're a player like me who loves mmos and can exp for 9h straight), so if we wan't a exp expansion I think we should also have a solution to the maps problem.
Otherwise related to that idea, I think it's gonna be better aesthetically as you said it's better to see 99+99+10 rather than 99+110.

[midnight heron]

as you said it's better to see 99+99+10 rather than 99+110```no the opposite, I said 99+99+10 looks silly
if after 99+99 getting to "Rebirth" removes your 99+99 and starts showing instead as R1 just to throw an example, it looks better

the "R1" would already represent that you capped Lv+cLv anyway and having the "R1" to replace those showcase you're going beyond that without taking more space than needed

[harsh dagger]

its true that 99+99+10 would look weird just like 99+1?? it just doesnt fit to the game so a system like this might be something that could exist in the future although I hope it doesnt end up to be too repetitive with the maps etc.

[strong elm]

Maybe don't even display the old level anymore once you reached Rebirth. Also the color of the name could be changed as example to red or yellow + a symbol✨ that indicates you have RB.

[regal garnet]

ahh now I understand yeah 99R1 looks better (or with a symbol/different color w/e you want to do)

[sleek spade]

Idk how it can be implemented in Nos but another GF game Metin2 has a "champ level system" too, after you get to lv120 and unlock the next level, it turns you back to Lv1 but in blue text, instead of 120+1 or 121

[deep robin]

Maybe with an aura, like 16-+20 on SP even, make it so stars go around the circle your character has on the ground, each star is 1 RB (just an idea, needs to be different than the one from SP so they don't break each other)

[sleek spade]

ex. picture ^

it also unlocks new stat points instead of new equipment so far, think of it as "there are 8 different new c-books but you can only activate 3 at the same time"

[strong elm]

I think your point and also Aurelius' are very interesting. Because Rebirth should give players the opportunity to stand out from others, e.g. through a different name colour, a shiny effect around the character or a new symbol. This then also increases the number of players who level up because they also want these prestigious cosmetics. And as Seraph~ has also mentioned, the players should of course receive more base stats or certain extra attack/defence %values per RB level, which would increase the desire to level up further in the first place.

[midnight heron]

xD no straight up just r1
as if you were lv1 again but with an R (or anything that represents you progression beyond 99+99)

[midnight heron]

yeah like this

[deep robin]

This might be silly, something that just came to mind, why not putting a little tree(as in fernon tree) with x amount of branches, and whenever you do a RB, one of the branches gets a leaf, or a fruit, or whatever that goes well with the lore, so if 3 branches have something, it means you have RB3, that might be tricky, because it should be clear to see, and it needs to be little enough that they can put it in the little space they have on the tag that shows up when you target someone, but something like this that goes well with the lore might be cool. I don't know if you guys gonna like the idea, but it came to mind and wanted to say it xDD