#Gruzzer Milk

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proven garnet
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-gruzzers are meat animals selectively bred to be dumb as fuck
-they are therefore analogous to cows, and numerous in crossroads
-the liquid in the crossroads barrels is white, but has different physics than mantis blood or water
-like what the fuck is it it's not shown anywhere else in the game
-gruzzer milk
made by Groversoup

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Gruzzers are dumb, also seemingly harvested for livestock and cows are also selectively breeded to be dumb. The consistency of the liquid in barrels is different from anything else like water or SOUL.
There’s gruzzer meat in the kitchen hidden room at Pleasure House, which further supports gruzzers being used as livestock and being milked.

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One might wonder where the udders are if the gruzzer is a cow equivalent. Simple. The udders are inside the gruzzer, as they carry their children within their bodies

lethal zephyr
opal kestrel
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Why

warm hare
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the thought of gruzzer milk bugs me

proven garnet
# opal kestrel Why

I wish to beget more discussion in thjs topic and/or get more breakthroughs

restive topaz
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Is there any evolutionary advantage to having udders inside there body's?

valid reef
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when she has babies they drink from the inside

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i guess

restive topaz
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if they're on the inside surely it'd be a pain to milk

valid reef
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🤷‍♂️

cursive rover
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Where is it stated in game that gruz mothers were domesticated?

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Gruzzers are very numerous in the forgotten crossroads, but we only see a single gruz mother, so imo saying they’re very populous isn’t very true

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We have seen a natural gruz birth, but it’s possible that they just burst out when they’re ready like we see in game

proven garnet
proven garnet
cursive rover
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The dream nail dialogue supports the Alien style birth by saying that they’re “full” but also that they’re “tired” and “dying”

restive topaz
proven garnet
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She’s explicitly said to shelter and raise then in her body

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how are they doing that without a food source

cursive rover
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A food source is certainly there, but it definitely isn’t milk

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You don’t feed milk to a fetus

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You feed milk to a baby

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I don’t think drinking gruzzer placenta is a good idea

indigo vessel
indigo vessel
opal kestrel
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God this image is so fucking cursed

restive topaz
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oh it says after birth

indigo vessel
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Gruzzer pills

restive topaz
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ig gruz mothers have a hole after all

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god that sentence is cursed

cursive rover
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(Or at least I really hope they aren’t drinking from an inverted nipple)

indigo vessel
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Its stated they're nurtured in gruz mommy's body beyond birth/development. Given they stay inside till she dies and then they burst out as fully developed flying bastards, they are being nurtured inside. Gruzzers have milk. The milk is accessible from inside.

restive topaz
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i hate that this makes sense

lethal zephyr
cursive rover
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I agree that there is nourishment but I don’t think it’s milk

lethal zephyr
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it can't be anything else

proven garnet
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insects and bugs can make milk

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roach milk is a thing

cursive rover
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“A whitish liquid containing proteins, fats, lactose, and various vitamins and minerals that is produced by the mammary glands of all mature female mammals after they have given birth and serves as nourishment for their young.”
Definition of milk

proven garnet
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oh god it says OP next to my name

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i’m gonna hurl I hate reddit

proven garnet
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Clearly

cursive rover
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Well we’re applying the real world concept of milk to hollow knight

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If we want to define something as milk we need an objective definition of milk

proven garnet
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white liquid secreted by females in order to feed their young

opal kestrel
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Mmmmmmmm

cursive rover
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Let’s go with the Merriam Webster definition rather than a random one we make right here.
“a fluid secreted by the mammary glands of females for the nourishment of their young”

opal kestrel
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Gruzzers probably don't have mammary glands

cursive rover
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And thus, it’s is better described as yolk

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Or some other word I don’t know

proven garnet
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honestly I should just

opal kestrel
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I mean iirc there are animals irl that produce milk/have milk glands that don't have mammary glands

cursive rover
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We are returning to the inverted nipples

proven garnet
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draw the milking process for gruz mother

opal kestrel
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I'm sorry for your loss

restive topaz
opal kestrel
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But yeah I believe they have inverted nipples

proven garnet
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since I am skedaddling home as a hurricane is gonna hit central florida

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how malleable do you think the nose thing is

opal kestrel
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Sniff

cursive rover
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We’ve boiled this down to a matter of opinion I think, on wether or gruzzers have inward nipples.
As a human, im not a big fan of this idea, so my opinion is going to stay no

opal kestrel
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Racist

proven garnet
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So if a hypothetically genetically modified human had inward nipples or udders

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you’d accept the theory?

opal kestrel
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Being a human doesn't give you the right to discriminate against bug people

cursive rover
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I just think it is really weird + Occam’s razor + ratio

opal kestrel
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You can't Occam's razor me

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I am Occam.

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(Yes ik that's a place and that the dude's name was William)

proven garnet
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inward udders is the simplest answer

cursive rover
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They could just drink placental fluid or whatever it’s called

opal kestrel
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I mean it's also possible Gruzzers just don't obey the laws of thermodynamics

cursive rover
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Like sharks

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There’s no shark milk

opal kestrel
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Bet

proven garnet
indigo vessel
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You dare shame the theory of the gruz nips but then you propose that?

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Shame on thou ye filthy fucker

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Perish

cursive rover
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Wait i just realized something

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mammary = mammal, Gruzzers aren't mammals, so they can't produce milk

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even if they can produce a milky substance and feed their young through inverted nipples

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that wouldn't be true milk

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it would be the equivalent of almond milk

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only milk in color and function

proven garnet
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mammals don’t exist in HK, and Kirb already addressed that

cursive rover
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exactly my point.

proven garnet
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no

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you said “it’s not milk because mammary glands”

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milk can be produced without mammary glands

cursive rover
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not really

proven garnet
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Wherever it appears, lactation is expensive. Flamingos are among the few birds that make milk for their young, and the effort drains them of all color — but at least it's an egalitarian affair.

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Assaying the milk of the nine-banded armadillo, for example, Michael Power, a lactation researcher at the Smithsonian National Zoological Park in Washington, and his colleagues were impressed by the high levels of calcium and phosphorus they detected, and by the even greater concentrations of protein

opal kestrel
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Bird milk is a thing yeah

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Cursed as hell but it exists

proven garnet
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Hooded seal pups nurse on rapidly shrinking ice floes for just four days, and during that time they manage to double their weight. Not surprisingly, hooded seal milk is more than 60 percent fat — the fattiest milk among mammals.

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point destroyed

cursive rover
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we established the definition we would be using to define milk as “a fluid secreted by the mammary glands of females for the nourishment of their young”

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milk is defined as a mammal product

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bird and roach milk exists

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but its "milk" not milk

proven garnet
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ok

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people who know more have a better definition

opal kestrel
cursive rover
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I agree, we need a new definition

proven garnet
opal kestrel
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Armadillos are my favourite reptiles

cursive rover
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so true

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also, i have more evidence against gruzzer nips

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The gruzzers are in there pretty tightly, and dont have much area to move around. there is probably at least one or more completely surrounded by other gruzzers

unknown.png
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they would have no way of getting to the glands, or getting nutrition at all

opal kestrel
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They don't appear to be packaged up that tightly, and we do see them move quite a bit in game

cursive rover
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they could just be bouncing off eachother

opal kestrel
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Also non sequitur but does the Gruz Mommy usually give birth to the Gruzzers or do they always burst out of her

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I assume the former

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Based on the WJ entry

cursive rover
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dnd and WJ supports the idea that she is about to die of exasution and the gruzzers will burst out or slide out or something

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and probably eat her corpse

proven garnet
opal kestrel
# cursive rover they could just be bouncing off eachother

"Some have been known to send their offspring out to meet threats head on" implies she can choose to give birth to them before that happens, which would be a trade off since it means she can get pregnant again but they have a lower chance of survival

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Wrong reply

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But re: whether or not they can move around in there the way the diagram is drawn it looks like they can slide over each other

cursive rover
indigo vessel
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Besides dictionaries are dumb as fuck for defining words. Oxford Languages defines "tree" as "a tree-shaped object"

cursive rover
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If we're trying to define something, we need a definition

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earlier in the convo that was the one we settled on

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in any case we already established theres probably a better definition out there

indigo vessel
indigo vessel
opal kestrel
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Guess Gruz Mommy's gotta die then

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How about this for a definition

an opaque white fluid rich in fat and protein, secreted by female mammals for the nourishment of their young.

indigo vessel
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So TRUE

cursive rover
opal kestrel
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Well actually male birds also have milk glands

indigo vessel
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Secreted by living organisms

opal kestrel
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Hopefully

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Wait what about robot milk Mush

cursive rover
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Anyway, what im saying is that it makes a lot more sense that they would have a birthing process a lot like sharks, where they have a placental link to the mother, even while being fully developed, as there wouldn't be the evolutionary need to have a separate organ, when you could just keep using the same placenta. Internal nips are while possible, implausible. but i don't think TC thought this far anyway

opal kestrel
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Ok then what's in the barrels

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It's white and milky, it could only be two things and I don't like the second

cursive rover
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what?

proven garnet
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Mayonnaise

opal kestrel
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The ones in crossroads

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It has a different consistency to white water or Soul

cursive rover
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from its physics its more dense than water

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as cursed as it may sound, its probably some other substance thats not milk. This is because gruzzer milk wouldn't exist.

lethal zephyr
cursive rover
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Gruzzers dont produce milk while their babies are born, because they are dead. internal nips are the other way they would produce milk. That's impractical idea, when the gruzzers could do the same as sharks and have a placental connection.

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also it wouldn't really be harvestable in the first place

indigo vessel
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It is

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You simply have to have a special section on the application to find a special someones

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Who enjoy the job

cursive rover
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you would have to kill the gruzzer to get access to the milk

indigo vessel
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No

opal kestrel
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I mean they were gonna eat it anyway may as well get some extra milk while you're at it

cursive rover
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true

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but you wouldn't be able to really get a constant supply

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since normal gruzzers dont produce

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you would have to kill specifically a pregnant mother

indigo vessel
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Wha

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We arent killing the mothers

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We're simply eliminating children to create room

cursive rover
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what?

indigo vessel
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I will make a fucking diagram dont test me doktor

cursive rover
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Gruz children burst out of the mother normally. Theres no hole out (as far as we know) so there wouldn't be any hole to go in and get the milk

indigo vessel
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Pep

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Gruzzes are not self fertilizing hermaphrodites

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Ergo

cursive rover
indigo vessel
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I am the Gruzfather

lethal zephyr
proven garnet
cursive rover
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You would still have to cut something to get into the womb

indigo vessel
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@cursive rover

cursive rover
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What

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I’ll get back to you on that

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I’m going to eat my tortellini

opal kestrel
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If I were you i wouldn't have much of an appetite after seeing that

indigo vessel
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Lnao

cloud geyser
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You all have my blessing

cursive rover
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So if gruzzers have inward nipples

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Mush, youre supposing that a bug could shove their head in there and then milk it in complete darkness with small gruzzers flying around in there, all while the gruz mother is still alive

scarlet lichen
indigo vessel
restive topaz
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Or they could just drag the children out then go in

opal kestrel
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Fellas

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I gotta say, this is some fucked up shit

indigo vessel
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Because

real nebula
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god is dead

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this is what's left

cursive rover
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I feel like I’m living in a simulation

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No one could actually believe that gruzzers have nipples inside of their body that bugs milked

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This is a glitch in the matrix

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Maybe I’m just going insane

indigo vessel
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_ _

proven garnet
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alright because gruzzer milk has been confirmed to exist through lots of discussion

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Next I want to bring up cookies

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Buy my cookies! They're ever so tasty.

Buy my cookies! Once I've sold them all I can go home.
From Millybug in Spirit’s Glade

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This stupid child
This implies that baking and by extension pastries exist in Hallownest

opal kestrel
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That is correct

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Perhaps Gruzzer Eggs are also used in place of chicken eggs, as we know Rancid Eggs are probably poisonous and wouldn't taste very good

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This makes Gruzzers the ultimate form of livestock, as they are not only delicious and nutritious meat animals, but they also produce milk and eggs

cursive rover
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Gruzzer eggs?

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how would gruzzers produce milk and eggs at the same time

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also gruzzers give live birth

opal kestrel
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Oh no no no you misunderstand their true nature

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I was talking about the unfertilised eggs, the (nonexistent) fertilised eggs that they'd lay wouldn't be fit for consumption anyway

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If a bug can dive into a Gruzzer to collect milk surely it could also go fetch some beautiful eggies

cursive rover
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i

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im just going to agree with yall

opal kestrel
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Finally, you have seen the light

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Clearly when creating Gruz Mother TC intended for players to appreciate the fact that Hallownestian bugs dove into them head first in order to harvest their unfertilised eggs (which they'd use to make all sorts of deliciously sweet treats) and collect milk from an inverted nipple used to feed their young (which they'd pour into large barrels and crates)

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It really is quite something isn't it.

cursive rover
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It really is

proven garnet
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It has come to my attention that Volt Twisters consume Charged Lumaflies to learn how to manipulate electricity.
Soul/Sanctum Scholars can consume things in order to replicate them with soul

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I think you know where this is going

indigo vessel
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Snail bits™️ cereal REAL

proven garnet
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Therefore, as part of my college thesis, I will prove that the food crisis of the City of Tears WAS CAUSED by the Pale King denouncing and opposing the Sanctum scholars at every turn

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Because they couldn’t use their abilities to consume and replicate Gruzzer Milk

restive topaz
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i look forwards to reading said thesis soulpensive

cursive rover
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truly this is the worst timeline

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Pk saved tens of thousands of lives but now there is no canonical soul master gets milked asmr

proven garnet
real nebula
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the fuck

proven garnet
real nebula
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i saw

proven garnet
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PK inadvertently caused a food shortage due to him being against genocide, so sad

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and almost any substance can be weaponized

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milk slams, like when you pour the milk in the empty bowl first and it splashes a little too hard because you have poor motor control

unique cove
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PK could have a gruzzer ice cream vault

unique cove
proven garnet
unique cove
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Oh damn

plucky folio
lethal zephyr
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are we still debating this shit zote

plucky folio
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I guess

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I looked through everything, and found that tiny little detail.

cursive rover
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For my own sanity I will agree with you

cursive rover
restive topaz
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interesting read

zinc python
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Why would you make this

lyric comet
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Inform the people.

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And also get TC to read it.

cursive rover
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To end this debate permanently

lethal zephyr
cursive rover
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The boss fight disagrees imo

lethal zephyr
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how so

cursive rover
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They are incredibly exhausted before the fight, but as soon as they are provoked, they begin to hurl their weight around and defend themselves wildly

lethal zephyr
opal kestrel
cursive rover
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yes?

grim linden
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What if we use gruzzer milk and rotten eggs to make pancakes

lyric comet
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paleHmm Listen you do not want to go down that path...
...actually it's been a long while since the last good food convo I was in radthink

delicate crest
lucid wagon
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I will never fight gruz mother the same way again

plucky folio
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Wait a minute, gruzzer cheese exists then!

lyric comet
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Yes yes we know, this is all part of the plan for the two ultimate end goals:
Pizza.
Cake.
It has been discussed thoroughly before, and then left to die for a while.

steep meteor
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I WANT TO EAT GRUZ CHEESE

peak sphinx
harsh jasper
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Gruz cheese

grim linden
peak sphinx
grim linden
peak sphinx
proven garnet
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Hello

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More new gruzzer lore has been added to the channel

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Gruzzers are basically cows, so ground up Gruzzer patties can be made
Gruzzer milk exists so Gruzzer cheese could in theory
And cookies exist, so bread could presumably be made
Add some gulka leaves or something and you've got lettuce
Gruzzer cheeseburger

lyric comet
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GOD
DAMN IT

proven garnet
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now who wanted to see this

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@cursive rover @peak sphinx and @grim linden clearly

lyric comet
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"Wake up babe new Gruzzer Milk lore dropped."

peak sphinx
lyric comet
cursive rover
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Also gulka leaves are the ones with lsd in them?

proven garnet
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Venom

grim linden
proven garnet
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gruzzer cheemburger

grim linden
lethal zephyr
lyric comet
zinc python
plucky folio
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What about male gruzzer milk

grim linden
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Banned

proven garnet
warm sable
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What if soul is the milk as well

proven garnet
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That is partially feasible

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as you know, volt twisters ate charged lumaflies to learn how to create electricity. Don’t see why they can’t do the same to make gruzzer mklk

cursive rover
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I don’t follow

warm sable
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gruzmommy

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milky mommy

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mommy milky

proven garnet
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Inappropriate

warm sable
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Sorry beesive

sonic fable
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Re: milk
There are several mushrooms that secrete fluid that looks like milk if the cap is cut

cursive rover
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good point

cyan plinth
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What the hell did i just read

proven garnet
hazy granite
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how is this thread still active

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its nearly been a year

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dear god kill it already

cursive rover
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it’s like a cockroach

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disgusting but it lives on in spite

lethal zephyr
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"Actually what the fuck. How the hell are you planning to reach into the womb of a living, wild, Gruz mother, known to “hurl its huge body around” (HJ) and milk an inward nipple in the dark, while there are 8 or more moving, attacking Gruzzers inside there."
Refutation: animals commonly have milk extracted during/after childbirth. Given that it's already known how GM's can be exhausted from the process of gestation/childbirth, they and their young would likely be too weak to fight back at certain points.

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This is supported by how in the GM fight, there are periods where they are left defenseless after banging their body against the walls a bunch of times, leaving them open to be slashed to death with a nail.

lethal zephyr
cursive rover
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morning serr, pkyes
A similar thought is already in the doc, but I don’t 100% agree with the fight evidence. Every boss has a few seconds between attacks, and the GM is still moving and flying during this time. I don’t know how to check the enemy ai, but i’d be willing to bet that they’re still hostile to the knight during that time

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That said, i’ve been thinking (against my better thought to let this topic die) to redo the doc in a clearer way

lethal zephyr
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yeah do so

cyan plinth
lethal zephyr
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you would be shocked at how fast people can milk cows

stable flame
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Also I concur with the pints in this document, have see. The light, and now know the only true religion is that where we worship the gruz, the in house egg and dairy product producer that is physically incapable of complaint.

cyan plinth
stable flame
cyan plinth
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Gruzzer milk best milk

tribal widget
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Gruzzrt hillow night

cyan plinth
tribal widget
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sorry i was experiencing a stroke when i typed that out

tribal widget
cyan plinth
tribal widget
hazy granite
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Gruzzer milk 1 year anniversary is coming in 4 months

cyan plinth
warm sable
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i wanna drink gruz milk

cyan plinth
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Why?

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Just why?

warm sable
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seems yummy

cyan plinth
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I going to Hollow knight myself

proven garnet
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What flavor would gruzzer milk have

cyan plinth
cursive rover
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Assuming it’s drinkable, impossible to say

grim linden
hard fable
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Why doesn’t this just die?

warm sable
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balls

cyan plinth
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balls

warm sable
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OwO

plucky folio
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Do we know if mammals exist in this universe?

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Wait, if gruzzers produce heat, and have any form of fur, that’d make them mammals.

lethal zephyr
celest river
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I hate gruzzer so much cause they ended my first steelsoul

open jasper
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i want to die

somber axle
bold bough
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lovve gruzzer millk🤤

bold bough
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yum gruzzer milk🤤

open jasper
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im going to kill myself

cursive rover
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please let this thread die my ghost can’t move on until i get closure

bold bough
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gruzermilkkkhh‼️‼️🤤

open jasper
bold bough
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hnmgg grruuuzer millkk🤤

subtle flower
grim linden
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Our spirits are collectively bound to this thread and it's continued existence proves a hazard to our mental stability, please we want to LEAVE agonyking

bold bough
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mmmmmmhhhhhgggg gruuuuuuuzzzzzeeerrr millkkk🥛 😋

bold bough
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mmmmmmmhhhhngghh gruuuuuuuuuuuzzzzzzzzeer milkks🤤 🤤

tired blaze
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call the bondulance

open jasper
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mmmmmmmhhhhngghh gruuuuuuuuuuuzzzzzzzzeer milkks🤤 🤤

lethal zephyr
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i think this has gone on long enough

cursive rover
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thank god

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please kill us

echo laurel
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The fact it was a topic is strange to begin with

tired blaze
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Help

open jasper
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PLEASEEEE AT LEAAST LET IT HIT ITS ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY

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ITS IN 9 DAYS

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IM BEGIGNG YOU 😭 😭