#Pascal Triangle Struggle (High School Data Management)

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balmy remnant
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summer sage
balmy remnant
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Yeah, i think i have the answer but i counted manually. There was another problem like thyis with boxes, where i counted the paths and added them up when there was a new one.

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Im just struggling to find the easiest way to calculate all paths

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Specifically in this format, the mitchell one

summer sage
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I think you're overcomplicating it

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in the first level there is 1 way to choose M

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in the second there's 2C1 which is just 2 ways of choosing I

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so there's 2 ways of spelling MI as it's 1x2

balmy remnant
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Yeah and it smooth until theres the H's

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Just gets hard when the one H can be chosen more than the edge H's

summer sage
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Wdym

balmy remnant
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I believe theres 4 ways of spelling MITC

summer sage
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yeah

balmy remnant
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But its not 4x3 because there isnt 12 ways of spelling MITCH

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I think?

summer sage
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how so

balmy remnant
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Because each C goes to 2 different H's

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Oh

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Ig it would just be 16 then

summer sage
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is there a restriciton on the path

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like does the letter above need to be directly below

balmy remnant
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No

summer sage
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there are 3 ways of choosing H (once)

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3C1

balmy remnant
summer sage
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Yep

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do you see how there's two paths to the middle H

balmy remnant
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Yeah

summer sage
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that's basically double counting

balmy remnant
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What do you mean

summer sage
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well not double counting

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but your method is wrong

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the two C's act as 1 element

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since we are only choosing 1 C

balmy remnant
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Yeah

summer sage
balmy remnant
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But the question asks for every way to spell mitchell

summer sage
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yeah

balmy remnant
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So the C's arent the same

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Each one counts for a different spelling

summer sage
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we counted for that before

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2 ways of choosing C

balmy remnant
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Oh

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Okay i think i get it now

summer sage
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btw it's be more like this

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6 branches

balmy remnant
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But thats wrong right

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The 6 brances

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Braches

summer sage
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well it's just a different method

balmy remnant
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Okay tell me if this makes any sense

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We combined the C's

summer sage
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yea

balmy remnant
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Is that similar to the idea of like

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Okay tehre was a question in an earlier lesson that was spellings for 'EXETER'

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and each E was combined, so the answer ended up being 7!/4!

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Or 3! sorry

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because each e was combined

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same idea right?

summer sage
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Hm, that's permutations

balmy remnant
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yeah

summer sage
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this is combinations

balmy remnant
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indeed

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Im just trying to make sense of it in my head

summer sage
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because this type of question doesn't specify the ordering of the letters

summer sage
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there's 3! ways of rearranging {E,E,E}

balmy remnant
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i thought it did specify the ordering of the letters

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it has to be M I T C H in order? or do you mean something else

summer sage
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No, as in we aren't counting the number of ways each letter can be rearranged

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like MITHC, MIHTC etc...

balmy remnant
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Yeah

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This is what i have down rn

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1, 2, 2, 4, 12, 24, 72, 72 if thats easier

summer sage
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Seems correct

balmy remnant
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Perfect

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Seems to make sense

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Thanks

summer sage
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np