#Eidometry

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pearl glen
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weren't you in the other server too

fleet knot
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i got invited to the other one recently

pearl glen
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oh okay

unreal shard
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well it seems obvious to me why zfc doesnt care about physical reality? because maths and physics are different subjects. In the intersection of the two subjects we have things like axioms of quantum mechanics etc. (mathematical physics stuff). Why would we want our mathematical framework to rely on physics?

fleet knot
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That's the thing. Why would physics wanna rely on ZFCs that don't care about reality?

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they should be both internally and externally consistent

unreal shard
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physics relies on literally anything that works for a specific problem

fleet knot
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do you know about the cosmological constant?

pearl glen
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do physicists even care about ZFC

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unreal shard
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but maybe more than you idk?

fleet knot
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So the premise is that QFT says the vacuum energy density is something like 122 orders of magnitude above whats observed in GR, even though they're measuring the same thing on different scales.

unreal shard
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you are saying things about qft when you have never studied calculus past calc 1 from what i remember you saying, you cant even do a path integral

last ferry
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Wait, I thought the cosmological constant was about cosmic inflation?

unreal shard
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qft is a graduate level physics subject

fleet knot
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my learning is very assymetrical

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either case. i did approach this from a theoretical physics point of view first

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not mathematics

lean lodge
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you are hoping to figure out what is the best way to describe reality from your armchair?

pearl glen
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i don't even know what the theory is

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fleet knot
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mhm and i have repeatedly said i'm not even close to this level?

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and i have said i need more math knowledge?

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and i have apologized for wasting your times on trying to argue in classic frameworks?

unreal shard
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but then you are making bold claims about things you admit you are not even close to understanding 😭

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when you know you dont understand them

last ferry
fleet knot
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well yeah, einstein never realized general theory of relativity until years later even though he had the idea for it much earlier.

lean lodge
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proposition: everyone involved has acknowledged arguing about this is a waste of time, close thread?

fleet knot
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yes

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close thread please

unreal shard
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he also had 1 million other ideas over the years, and he promptly scrapped the ones that he could see were going nowhere.

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yes please