#Basic algebra

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peak vigil
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The answer is six (I didnt get it)
I factorized stuff, thought of modulus and used odd/even logic.
3(x+y)^2 = (2+3x)(2+3y) - 4

Though I got it through graphing but I want to know the algebra way, that I am failing to find right now

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timber tendon
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You could use the quadratic formula to solve for one of the variables in terms of the other.

short hill
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Maybe bringing it to the canonical form could help.

wispy ridge
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Diophantine equation, is it?

short hill
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If I'm not mistaken, the (close to) canonical form is ||(2x - y - 2)^2 + 3(y - 2)^2 = 16||, at which point we just need to test some cases.

old spear
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goo goo gaa gaa

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HIIIIIII

old spear
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but we'll go with the straightforward one

old spear
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oh, even cooler

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use the [unnamed] substitution

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$\begin{cases}x=a+b\y=a-b\end{cases}$

hushed fractalBOT
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wolfqz

short hill
old spear
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ravi substitution or what

short hill
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The name is "rotation and scaling" 😄

old spear
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alright

old spear
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or solve it as a quadratic in x

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or let x,y be the solutions of the quadratic equation X^2-SX+P=0

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these are the only 3 methods i can think of rn on no sleep

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and all of them work

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use whatever one you like

short hill
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Or what I did above.

old spear
short hill
peak vigil
short hill
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If you're specifically working with second-degree curves/surfaces, you do substitutions after that, but that isn't necessary here.

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Getting this form is enough.

peak vigil
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Thanks

short hill
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This isn't quite the canonical form, but it's a better form for this exercise (no fractions).

peak vigil
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I see

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old spear
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hi

peak vigil
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Hi

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I was unable to find the parity

lapis knoll
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I know this may seem obscure, but what about denoting x and y to be roots of a quadratic, then using vieta’s formulae and newton’s sums concerting it into coefficients? Or maybe it’s far fetched?

old spear
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thus x,y are of the same parity

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now check if they're both odd or both even

lapis knoll
old spear
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lmfao no issues

timber tendon
# peak vigil I was unable to find the parity

Like I said, just transform the equation into quadratic form to solve for one of the variables in terms of the other, then note that you require the discriminant to be a perfect square.

old spear