#Hyperbolic integral

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royal plover
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Stuck in in my integral

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frail cosmos
# royal plover Stuck in in my integral

Let's see.
We have √(cosh(2x))dx. We take u = sinh(2x).
du = 2cosh(2x)dx
cosh(2x) = √(1 + u^2)
So:
√(cosh(2x))dx = (1/2)(2cosh(2x))dx/√(cosh(2x)) = (1/2)du/(1 + u^2)^(1/4)
So yeah, that's fine. And by Chebyshev's substitution criteria this can be shown to be non-elementary.

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Some other trickier approach is needed, probably.

royal plover
frail cosmos
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Wonder how we can find the integral, though.

kind sun
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I am sorry to inform you that it doesn't converge

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the integrand is lower-bounded by 1 trivially

royal plover
frail cosmos
kind sun
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sqrt(cosh² + sinh²) >= sqrt(1) = 1

frail cosmos
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I kept thinking about 1/√(cosh(2x)) for some reason...

royal plover
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so the whole think is wrong?

kind sun
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well no it's not wrong, all your algebraic manipulations are correct

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it's just useless

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because the integral doesn't converge

frail cosmos
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Yeah...

royal plover
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Hmm ff.
That's a bit annoying since I was trying to resolve this integral as the arc length of the parametric curve y^2 - x^2 = 1 3am

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parametrised by (sinh(t), cosh(t))

frail cosmos
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Yeah, it's a hyperbola, after all.

royal plover
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yeah I overlooked that

kind sun
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it's the two curves y = sqrt(1+x²) and y = -sqrt(1+x²)

royal plover
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thanks for pointing it out! would have kept thinking about it lol

kind sun
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no worries, it happens sometimes

royal plover
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