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vast citrus
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Sum of this series. Can I apply beta gamma?

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golden pilot
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$\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}\frac{4k+1}{(2k+1)(2k+2)(2k+3)}$ right

jovial nebulaBOT
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Graph = G for Garbage

golden pilot
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I'm thinking partial fraction decomposition

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yeah you can decompose it

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ill leave it to you now @vast citrus

vast citrus
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Lol

vast citrus
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Bro next steps are tricky

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Taking LCM and all

vast citrus
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@junior acorn

junior acorn
vast citrus
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A/(2k+1)+B/(2k+2)+c/(2k+3)

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@junior acorn

junior acorn
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have you solved it

vast citrus
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Nope I can't

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Is there any other method like gamma beta function?

junior acorn
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are you just using words

vast citrus
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No

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I solved a similiar question

junior acorn
vast citrus
vast citrus
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Let me tell you why i am having difficulties here

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A(2k+2)(2k+3)+B(2k+1)(2k+3)+C(2k+1)(2k+2)=4k+1

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i cannot solve it in varibles

junior acorn
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3 variables, 3 equations

vast citrus
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That's it if you want me to put random numbers then i will skip

junior acorn
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this is uniquely soluble

heady bluff
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A quick method is multiplying by 2k+1 on each side and evaluate for k=-1/2

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You will get A

vast citrus
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Where are you seeing 3 equation

junior acorn
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= 0k^2 + 4k + 1

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ring a bell?

vast citrus
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Hmm a little bit

junior acorn
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when are two polynomials equal?

vast citrus
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Now i can compare

junior acorn
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good

vast citrus
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😂😂😂

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How stupid i am

junior acorn
heady bluff
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Or if we are being rigorous consider the rational fraction F=4X+1/(2X+1)(2X+1)(2X+3)=A/2X+1 +B/2X+2+C/2X+3 if you multiply by 2X+1 on each side and evaluate for X=-1/2 you have A and do the same for B, multiply by 2X+2 and evaluate for X=-1 etc.

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It’s faster imo if you know the trick

junior acorn
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a lot faster even

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very useful trick when there are lots of terms

junior acorn
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but that's not hard

vast citrus
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It converges if it gets a certain number

junior acorn
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you will assume convergence along the way

vast citrus
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But why?

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It is easy

vast citrus
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I don't understand why x=-1/2

junior acorn
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what variable do you want to isolate

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plug in k=-1/2 here

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some things disappear

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what do you see?

vast citrus
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Wow

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Awesome

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Rotor

heady bluff
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Because for X=-1/2, 2X+1=0, if we multiply on each side by 2X+1 then when you evaluate at X=-1/2 the B and C constants vanish leaving only A=something

vast citrus
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I liked your method

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A=-1/4

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I got

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And it is easy

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I will try now al method

junior acorn
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Ax1x2 = -1 implies A = -1/2

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if you understand how to apply Rotor's suggestion, then you don't need to worry about it anymore

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the problem is not about linear algebra, but series manipulation

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$$ \frac{4k+1}{(2k+1)(2k+2)(2k+3)} = \frac{-1}{2(2k+1)} + \frac{3}{2k+2} + \frac{-5}{2(2k+3)} $$

jovial nebulaBOT
junior acorn
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this is how you can write the general term

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$$ -\frac{1}{2}\sum _{k=0}^n \left( \frac{1}{2k+1} - \frac{6}{2k+2} + \frac{5}{2k+3}\right) $$

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can you figure out what this is for all n?

jovial nebulaBOT
junior acorn
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@vast citrus

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many paths to victory here, but I'll leave you with this for now

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i got this answer, eventually

vast citrus
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Bro

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I don't want answers

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😁😁

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I can think of log series

junior acorn
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says you who are obsessing over fake solves and whatnot 😂

vast citrus
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If you want me to do a fakesolve i will add a few start terms and check with options....lol

heady bluff
vast citrus
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Just imaging all options in log terms so

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log(1+x)=x-x^2/2+x^3/3-..

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loh(1+x)/log(1-x)

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I found it

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Yooo

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log(2/3)

heady bluff
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Oh well I don’t know how you did but i see two ways of doing one is too express everything inside in terms of an integral then using the intervertion of series integral theorem to intervert both then get the result

junior acorn
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that's probably what I did but I don't recognise this phrase

heady bluff
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Second method is a bit similar, we can rearrange the terms in the sum to get a telescopic sum and a sum of something that can be rewritten as the integral of a well known series expansion

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I probably mistranslated in French it’s said that way

junior acorn
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what's the gist of the theorem?

heady bluff
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Basically given certain conditions you can switch integral and sum (maybe beppo Levi’s theorem is more appropriate, idk)

junior acorn
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aah

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fubini

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or rather a special case

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i know what you mean, no worries

vast citrus
heady bluff
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Why are you summing them ? What are you trying to achieve here ?

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Are you trying to get the sum of x^(2k+1)/2k+1? The problème is that’s not going to work for x=1

golden pilot
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the intervention

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what

heady bluff
vast citrus
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Many

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😇😇

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Bro even if you are not giving any hints

heady bluff
jovial nebulaBOT
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Rotor 😑

heady bluff
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now you can exprès similarly 1/(2k+2) and 1/2k+3 for k>=0

vast citrus
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x^2k+1/2k+1=1/2k+1

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Integration 0 to 1 x^(2k+1)

heady bluff
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using what I said the sum becomes $\frac{-1}{2} \sum_{k=0}^{+\infty} \left(\int_{0}^{1} x^{2k} -6x^{2k+1}+5x^{2k+2} dx \right)$

jovial nebulaBOT
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Rotor 😑

heady bluff
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@vast citrus

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Now switch integral and sum (i won’t justify it here but it works, you can)

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And think of the geometric series

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(Here we are integrating on [0,1[ so |x|<1)

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From there you will have an integral to calculate which will give you your result

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You could’ve also just at the beginning rearranged the sim to get a telescopic sum which may have given easier calculations

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$\sum_{k=0}^{+\infty} \frac{1}{2k+1}- \frac{6}{2k+2} +\frac{5}{2k+3}=\sum_{k=0}^{+\infty} 5\left(\frac{1}{2k+3} -\frac{1}{2k+1} \right) +6\left(\frac{1}{2k+1} -\frac{1}{2k+2} \right)$

jovial nebulaBOT
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Rotor 😑

heady bluff
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the first part is telescopic and for the second one you can do the integral trick

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Sorry for yapping so much I hope this helps

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@vast citrus

heady bluff
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This method reminds me of a proof of the Basel problem

vast citrus
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I see

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I am reading and understanding

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Slowly

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Thanks rotor