#number theory

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limpid plank
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can someone help me with task 10b?
thank you.

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glossy zealot
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start with the definition of a ≡ b

limpid plank
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thats what i have done so far

limpid plank
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but just if a and b are integers

limpid plank
heady minnow
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summation is straightforward

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$$ n\mid b-a \ &\ n \mid d-c \Rightarrow n \mid (b+d)-(a+c) $$

leaden bridgeBOT
heady minnow
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multiplication requires some effort

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you start from the same assumptions: n | b-a and n | d-c

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and you have to show n | bd - ac

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@limpid plank

limpid plank
heady minnow
limpid plank
heady minnow
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$$ bd - ac = b(d-c) + c(b-a) $$

leaden bridgeBOT
heady minnow
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@limpid plank

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is this enough?

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do you see why n | bd - ac holds?

limpid plank
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on the other side

heady minnow
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correct

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why is the right side divisible by n?

limpid plank
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but why did u write this?

limpid plank
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ohh

heady minnow
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$$ bd -ac = bd - bc + bc - ac$$

leaden bridgeBOT
limpid plank
heady minnow
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yes!

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and we already know that divisibility respects addition

limpid plank
heady minnow
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and you can conclude now also that when p is a polynomial with integer coefficients then

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$$ a\equiv b\pmod{n} \Rightarrow p(a) \equiv p(b) \pmod{n} $$

leaden bridgeBOT
limpid plank
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ohhh right!

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i see

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but what does mod n mean?

heady minnow
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$$ a\equiv b \pmod{n} \overset{\mbox{def}}\Leftrightarrow n\mid b-a $$

leaden bridgeBOT
heady minnow
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it's just notation

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they don't write mod n here

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because it's clear from context

limpid plank
limpid plank
limpid plank
heady minnow
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more accurately, the set of integers is chopped into equivalence classes modulo n

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for example modulo 3, you have 3 equivalence classes

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with 0 class being all the multiples of 3

limpid plank
limpid plank
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if you have time

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and thanks for the previous help, it made me come a step further

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@heady minnow

heady minnow
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$$ a\mid b\ &\ a\mid c \Rightarrow a \mid b+c $$

leaden bridgeBOT
heady minnow
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@limpid plank

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can you prove this?

limpid plank
heady minnow
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yes

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recall that a | b iff b = ka for some k

limpid plank
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ok so, b = ka and c = ag. we can prove it by showing that (ka+ag)/a = k + g, where k is the answer for b/a while g the answer for c/a

heady minnow
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ka + ga, can you factor this?

limpid plank
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indeed yes

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a(k+g)

heady minnow
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and what is it equal to?

limpid plank
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i mean its the same

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but were you looking for what i just wrote or something else?

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@heady minnow

heady minnow
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a(k+g) = b+c

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do you agree?

limpid plank
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oh yess

limpid plank
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but yes i agree

heady minnow
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therefore a | b+c, which is what we wanted to show

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@limpid plank

heady minnow