#set theorem basic exercise

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elder cave
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I don’t understand. I want to know (i) and then I can try the rest on my own.

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candid notch
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i says it's all real numbers that are negative.. so draw that

elder cave
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Just on a line?

candid notch
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draw the entire line.. then shade in the region

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and that's wrong regardless

elder cave
elder cave
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but I’m confused

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idk how the answer is supposed to look like

candid notch
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unless you cropped out the instructions that says the universal set is Z

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draw the real line

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then shade in all negative numbers

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hint: arrows exist to show the line continues on

elder cave
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uh

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what is the real line I don’t get it

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Literally all of the before was just set theory proofs

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And then I get this random exercise

elder cave
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so like

candid notch
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yes, though draw a line not a line segment

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This is a line, shade in the negatives

elder cave
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Then (ii)

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{ x | |x| < 1 }

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the absolute value of x is smaller than 1

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so it’s just everything left to 1

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?

manic notch
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-1 < x < 1

candid notch
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but yes, as Ravi barged in and said... |x|<a iff -a<x<a

elder cave
candid notch
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crystal clear.......

elder cave
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you’re speaking way too vague and annoying

candid notch
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if you want clarification, ask specific questions

elder cave
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Okay so the |x| in this case is not the same as absolute value?

candid notch
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it is

elder cave
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or is it

candid notch
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|x| is the abs value of x

elder cave
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Yeah however I understood the function as like if you put any number it’s just a positive output

candid notch
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it is

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or 0

elder cave
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so how did we get to -1<x<1

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I get the x<1 part

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where’d the -1 come from

candid notch
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if $x\in(-1,0)$, then $\abs{x}=-x\in(0,1)$

native driftBOT
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Omegabet_

candid notch
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since x is negative

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so it's clear $(-1,1)\subseteq{x\mid\abs{x}<1}$

native driftBOT
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Omegabet_

candid notch
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and it's clear that anything with magnitude less than 1 cant go outside of (-1,1)

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it all follows from the usual piecewise definition

elder cave
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Yeah I understand

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It can’t be -1 or lower cuz then it’s >=1

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which is the opposite of <1

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Okay (iii)

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now uh idk what the epsilon signifies

candid notch
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it's a number

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just use the property we just discussed.

elder cave
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-ε< x-a < ε

candid notch
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yes

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so $x\in(a-\varepsilon,a+\varepsilon)$

native driftBOT
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Omegabet_

candid notch
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ie an (open) interval around a of radius eps

elder cave
candid notch
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no

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not really

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(a-e,a+e) is an interval, open, centered at a

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and has radius epsilon

elder cave
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I understand the radius part being centered at a

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I don’t get the interval part tho

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isn’t that just saying it’s a radius epsilon centered at a

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can we assume some random numbers for epsilon and a

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a = 2 and epsilon = 5 e.g

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so I can get a better picture of how this works

candid notch
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it's an interval...

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(a,b) is an interval

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(a-e,a+e) is an interval

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$(a,b):={x\mid a<x<b}$

native driftBOT
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Omegabet_

candid notch
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$[a,b]:={x\mid a\leq x\leq b}$

native driftBOT
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Omegabet_

candid notch
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where the universal set is R ofc

elder cave
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Oh yeah okay I am just not so familiar with English terms das all