#Determinant

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weak robin
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Help pls 😭

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lime cedar
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@weak robin induct

weak robin
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What is that đŸ€”

lime cedar
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Then assume true for n=k

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Then prove for n=k+1

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Got it?

weak robin
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But that's the difficult part

lime cedar
weak robin
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How do we know the n=k+1 part

lime cedar
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It’s not that difficult

lime cedar
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Wait @weak robin have you ever used induction before?

weak robin
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Actually can you elaborate a bit more on this specifically?

lime cedar
weak robin
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What about this question as an example

lime cedar
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I meant simple example lol

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Wait I’ll solve this as well

weak robin
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Omg thanks đŸ˜©

lime cedar
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Wait

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@weak robin on the right side

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What would happen if you actually did the long division?

weak robin
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Idk

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I never did long division in two variables

lime cedar
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a^n + ba^(n-1) + b^2a^(n-2) + 
 + b^n

weak robin
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Okay?

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Yeah nvm fck this

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I give up math

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You suck

lime cedar
lime cedar
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It was simple lol

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If a=b


lime cedar
merry wraith
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Let $\Delta_n(a,b)$ denote the déterminant of the nxn matrice as shown here

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merry wraith
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Developing the déterminant with the first columns (using cofactors) you can actually prove that for $n\geq 2$ $\Delta_n(a,b)=(a+b)\Delta_{n-1}(a,b) -ab\Delta_{n-2}(a,b)$

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merry wraith
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You can now explicitly find $\Delta_n(a,b)$ solving the second order recurrent relation (finding the characteristic equation which has roots a and b)

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merry wraith
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And with initial conditions $\delta_0(a,b)=1$ and $\delta_1(a,b)=a+b$ you will have the scalars ( the solutions of the récurent relation is a vectorial space so do get an explicit solutions we need the scalars)

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merry wraith
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And like @lime cedar said if you don’t know reccurent sequences like I presented you can prove it via induction ( double induction with the relation I gave)

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Sorry for the ping

lime cedar
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(Proved for n=1,2)

merry wraith
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And for the case a=b you can litterally simplify the expression by using Bernoulli factorisation or using the reccurent relation we see that the characteristic equation has only 1 double root a so vectorial space of solutions is different but solving it once again gives the same solutions as the Bernoulli factorization

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Normally it should be (n+1)a^n

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# lime cedar Ouch

Naaah bro really said « you suck » and left the server that’s quite rude imo

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lime cedar
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that's why I couldn't ping him

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Lmao

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I bet he wanted the answer

merry wraith
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And I gave the whole process like a dumbass but I don’t think sĂ©quences defined by a recurrent linear relation are asked here because they answer is already given so induction is more adapted

weak robin
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@lime cedar I am back

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I accidentally left the server

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@merry wraith I am back

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Thanks for the help â˜ș

lime cedar