Skill issue

[misty mesa]

Shit I don't know how to delete this

Meh

Well, I've thinking about the collatz conjecture

And it's incredible to me the fact that this simple question is that much hard

If it's solvable, we're talking about a big skill issue of humanity at math

Terence Tao said that the question is probably unsolvable

And that's not crazy, we hace unsolvable questions in math like this thing of here

But, what happened if this go to the next level?

My existential question is:

What happen if the question "Is the Collatz conjecture solvable?" Is unsolvable?

And what happen if the question " "Is the Collatz conjecture solvable?" Is an unsolvable question?" Is unsolvable

Where we should stop?

Pd: sorry for my English, I don't speak it

[slim phoenix]

So like is it like an axiom?

[slim phoenix]

[misty mesa]

Something like that

When a Yes/No question is unsolvable, we can assume the answer is yes or not to create a new type of math, but yes, asumming the answer will make it an axiom in this new math, as you said

[lone kraken]

well it feels like a bit harder question to ask because continuum hypothesis is a more of a set theory thing than collatz conjecture

like its directly about your ability to construct a set with certain properties

probably a good start would be to look at collatz's conjecture from a set theory pov

[quaint coyote]

There's a reason no one works on the Collatz Conjecture

I think it is solvable, it'd be weird if it wasn't solvable. You can either find a number that makes it go to infinity or you don't

But finding the solution? Nah, that's some crazy next level shit

[misty mesa]

Skill issue

Nah, y'all are right, it would be weird if it's unsolvable

[quaint coyote]

Podrías ser el primero en demostrarlo

Aunque mejor intenta cosas más fáciles jajaja

[misty mesa]

Si es resolvible, no creo que sea infernalmente difícil, solo que no tenemos la teoría para resolverlo todavía

Como el caso del último teorema de fermat

[quaint coyote]

Eso sí, a día de hoy es irresoluble pero yo confío en nuestra capacidad para crear nuevas ramas matemáticas para resolverlo

[misty mesa]

[quaint coyote]

El caso más cercano de esto es la conjetura ABC, que tardó un matemático como que 20 años en desarrollar unas matemáticas totalmente nuevas para poder resolverla

[misty mesa]

No la conocía, voy a investigar al respecto

[last karma]

A veces necesitamos revisar de las teorías en un ciencia.

Disculpa mi pobre español.

[lone kraken]

no spanish