#Why?

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dense beacon
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Why can I use the sum 1/(1+k)^2=sum((n+1)(-1)^n*k^n) for |k|<1? The integral is from 0 to 1 but the domain is less than 1

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barren drum
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"but the domain is less than 1" what does this mean?

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@dense beacon

dense beacon
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I meant that the sum only konverges if |k|<1 but the boundaries of the integral are 0 and 1

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So why is it a valid move?

barren drum
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which sum?

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what is the task? to calculate I_1?

dense beacon
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1/(1+k)^2=sum from n=0 to n=inf of (n+1)(-1)^nk^n for |k|<1

dense beacon
barren drum
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$$\frac{1}{(1+k)^2} = \sum _{n=0}^\infty (-1)^n(n+1)k^n $$

atomic belfryBOT
barren drum
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where is this sum in the picture

dense beacon
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It's already simplified

barren drum
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if the integral runs from 0 to 1, then k in (0,1)

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confusing notation tbh

dense beacon
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Sry but I still don't get it

barren drum
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you said convergence holds for |k|<1

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if k in (0,1), then..?

dense beacon
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Uh

barren drum
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do you wonder about the equality

dense beacon
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I wonder why it's a valid move

barren drum
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$$ \int _0^1 \frac{x^{-1/2}\ln x}{(1+x)^2}dx = \sum _{k=0}^\infty (-1)^k (1+k) \int _0^{1} x^{k-1/2}\ln x dx $$

atomic belfryBOT
barren drum
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is your question why this equality holds?

dense beacon
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No

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If the sum diverges at k=1 why can we use it in the integral?

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The integral boundaries are k=0 and k=1

barren drum
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x in (0,1)

dense beacon
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What u mean?

barren drum
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this means

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the variable is in (0,1)

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it doesn't matter that you get divergence at end point

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if it is undefined for any finite number of points, it makes no difference

orchid girder
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I think the question kinda makes sense given that the argument "x in (0, 1)" isn't all that convincing to show that the equality holds... For instance, when considering the geometric series, it would hold a pathological identity, just under the pretense that $x \in (0, 1)$:
$$\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} (-1)^k \int_{0}^{1} x^k dx = \int_{0}^{1} \frac{dx}{1+x}$$

atomic belfryBOT
barren drum
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well, alleluja for you for understanding what the question even is noway

orchid girder
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That being said I have no clue what can answer this question

barren drum
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essentially why can we exchange limit and integration?

orchid girder
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Why we can do it here

barren drum
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something something uniform convergence

orchid girder
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and not in the Grandi series

barren drum
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lemme cook..

orchid girder
dense beacon
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I think I answered the question myself 😄

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Appreciate your help tho

orchid girder
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I totally forgot about dividing by 1/k when I integrate

dense beacon
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+close