#Integral Question

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obtuse zephyr
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How do I find I(1) and I(3/2) with the given data.
Don’t know what to do after that.
****(Int is from 0 to infinity)

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obtuse zephyr
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How does the given data help in solving it?

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Don’t we have to evaluate one of the integral for solving it?

placid veldt
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What do you need to find I’m confused

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Just know that if G is the gamma function then G(x) * G(1-x)= pi/sin(pi*x)

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Oh is I the gamma function

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?

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No never mind it’s from -infinity to infinity

obtuse zephyr
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I don’t know that much about gamma function

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This question came in my comprehension with the given data and data is said to be sufficient to solve the given question but I still can’t do it.

obtuse zephyr
placid veldt
obtuse zephyr
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Yes

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As A is I(1) and B is I(3/2) for those I need I(0) and I(-1/2)

placid veldt
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Oh okay I see

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It’s a bit odd though because the integral itself doesn’t necessarily converge if it was from 0 to infinity there wouldn’t be a problem for p>0 but when t is negative -t is positive

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Are you sure it isn’t from 0 to infinity the bounds ?

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And that’s how the gamma function is initially defined so seems odd that the bounds are -infinity infinity instead of 0 infinity

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Plus you are integrating the power of a negative like if t<0 and s=1/2 there is a problem

obtuse zephyr
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I don’t remember correctly

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Try doing it from 0 to infinity

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But if I take from 0 to infinity then will you find I(0) ?

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Or are they already known?

placid veldt
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If it’s indeed from 0 to infinity then I(0) doesn’t exist because the integral diverges

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And if it’s indeed from 0 to infinity you can find A and B using a change of variables

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Setting x^4=u you will have dx=1/4 * u^(1/4-1) du

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so A becomes the integral of 1/4 * u^(1/4-1) * e^-u

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Which is 1/4 *I(1/4)

obtuse zephyr
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Then the other would become I(5/8)?

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*1/4 as well

placid veldt
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Yes the other one is 1/4 * I(3/4)

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And 3/4=1-1/4

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So using the fact that I(s) * I(1-s)=pi/sin(spi) you’ll get the answer

obtuse zephyr
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It isn’t I(3/4)

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Wait let me recheck

placid veldt
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Well using the same change of variables

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x^2 becomes u^1/2

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Multiplying by 1/4 * u^(1/4-1) gives u^-1/4

obtuse zephyr
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So it becomes u^1/2/u^3/4

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Which is u^-1/2

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Which is I(3/2)

placid veldt
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well it’s u^1/2 * u*(1/4-1) which is u^-1/4 which is u^(3/4-1)

obtuse zephyr
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Oh sorry

placid veldt
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So B= 1/4 * I(3/4)

obtuse zephyr
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Yeah thanks mate

placid veldt
obtuse zephyr
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I didn’t change the denomination while doing it

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I have some other questions can you help?

placid veldt
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Im a bit occupied at the moment but you can still post the questions here if you want

obtuse zephyr
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Alright

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Can we find a general answer to alphaAn+2=(beta)*An+1+ (gamma)*An?

placid veldt
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Given alpha is nonzero

obtuse zephyr
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An is coefficient of x^n in the sequence

placid veldt
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Okay I see

obtuse zephyr
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How to approach these kind of questions?

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A headway would be great

placid veldt
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Well maybe you can try identifying a11 using the relation between the roots and the coefficients here the roots are j and j^2 and both have multiplicity 20 so you can possibly find all the coefficients ( here j is the complex number e^2pi *i/3 ) another possibility is using Taylor’s formula to find ak for any k ( basically ak=P^(k) (0)/k! With « P » denoting the polynomial here, so you can calculate the k th derivative of P at 0 using Leibniz’s formula P=(X-j)^20 * (X-j^2)^20 which is equivalent to the root formula I think

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Hmmm maybe it’s a bit too much

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Here you don’t need the coefficients necessarily but you need to find (alpha-beta)/gamma

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Is that right ?

obtuse zephyr
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Haven’t studied Leibniz formula

placid veldt
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Okay never mind then

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You can try binomial expansion but there will be a double sum

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Im sorry I’m quite tired so I said some quite useless stuff

obtuse zephyr
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Binomial expansion isn’t the way as it’s too length and calculative

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I tried doing that In the paper

placid veldt
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Yes that’s what I thought there is a double sum so it’s quite annoying

obtuse zephyr
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Appreciate the help bro thanks