#Areas related to Circles

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ionic veldt
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Show your work.

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I actually didn't know that formula, I just used Heron's formula, but yeah.

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I mean, it simplifies into that when you take a = b = c.

inland copper
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Wait, Heron? But this is an equilateral triangle.

ionic veldt
inland copper
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For an equilateral triangle with side a we have S = a^2 √(3)/4. That can be shown from the usual S = (1/2)xy sin(θ).

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The region is the difference of the triangle and three identical sectors.

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Hm, let me try.

ionic veldt
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Is it negative?

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...right. That's not what I'm asking.

inland copper
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We have:
S(shaded) = S(triangle) - 3S(sector)
S(triangle) = √(3)(2r)^2/4 = √(3)r^2
S(sector) = (1/2)(π/3)r^2 = (π/6)r^2

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That doesn't give a negative area.

ionic veldt
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I get a positive number.

inland copper
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What you you mean? The area of sector of radius r and angle θ is (1/2)θr^2.

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What other formula are you using?

ionic veldt
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That's just conversion. Degrees vs. radians.

inland copper
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That's the same thing, you just forgot the degree sign.

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Wait, hold up.

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Why use 22/7?

ionic veldt
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Did you actually plug it into a calculator and get something negative?

inland copper
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I mean, in any case we get S(shaded) = (√(3) - π/2)r^2, no matter what formula you use.

ionic veldt
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So then how do you know it's "deffo negative"?

inland copper
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Oh, hold on.

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We are given the area of the triangle.

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No matter, not a problem.

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Let S(triangle) = S. Then:
S = √(3)r^2
Then r^2 = S/√(3). So:
S(shaded) = (√(3) - π/2)(S/√(3)) = (1 - π/(2√(3)))S

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Still positive, of course.

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I don't think you're using that formula correctly. Just use the usual one.

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Doesn't mattter.

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It's the correct and valid formula.

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Huh...

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That teacher needs someone to talk to them, then.

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That isn't ok.

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The standard formula is (1/2)θr^2.

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Ugh...

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Fine.

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Let me show with that formula, then...

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S(sector) = (1/2)θr^2 = (π/360°)θr^2
So:
S(shaded) = S(triangle) - 3S(sector)
S(triangle) = √(3)(2r)^2/4 = √(3)r^2
S(sector) = (π/360°)(60°)r^2 = (π/6)r^2
Then it's the same.

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What your teacher is doing is kinda stupid, to be honest. Just my opinion, though.

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Oh.

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Though, I'm not sure why they want you to approximate √(3) and π.

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Yes?

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You're welcome!

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Still not sure why the approximation is needed, though...

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What do you mean? √(3) is √(3).

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Wait, hold on.

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Where's π?

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Let me calculate the answer, hold on.

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Oh...

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Well, why do that?

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Let's find the exact answer first.

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S(shaded) = (√(3) - π/2)(S/√(3)) = (√(3) - π/2)(49√(3) cm^2/√(3)) = 49(√(3) - π/2) cm^2

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That's the exact answer.

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We can use a calculator to approximate it: S(shaded) ≈ 7.901 cm^2

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The concrete answer is the exact one, not the approximate one.

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As you can see, when you first calculate it and then round it, you get the correctly rounded result.