#sign of a function

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brittle python
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why is my sign of a function wrong ? , seems like that I just dont know how to use this method , so does anyone know this method

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delicate night
brittle python
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wait why would
sqrt(x-1) x=/2

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bc sqrt(2-1) is not a problem

delicate night
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Because we can only have (x^2 - 3x + 2)/(x - 2) = x - 1 when x ≠ 2. Otherwise we get 0/0, which is not good.

brittle python
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okay , I never did this method so I might try to learn it , but why in this case is my method wrong ?

delicate night
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The function won't change sign when going across x = 2.

brittle python
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but then I would get
-|-
instead of
-|+

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which still would be wrong since it would need to go to +|+

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and shouldn't everything sqrt(x)>= 0 so it should start from + change on 1 =>- change on 2 => +

delicate night
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slow field
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,w Plot sqrt( (x^2-3x+2)/(x-2) )

delicate night
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As I said, it's √(x - 1) for x ≠ 2.

brittle python
delicate night
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Yes, but again, easier to factor the numerator first and cancel, just minding that x ≠ 4.

brittle python
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okay I will def do that after I just learn why this method is not working rn , so I dont feel like I wasted time learning it

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leat me just do the sqrt version of this problem

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and see where my logic breaks exactly

delicate night
brittle python
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so the sign should not change when doing sqrt() of something (+)

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and sqrt should always be positive number so it should always be + ?

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that is at least what I heard

delicate night
brittle python
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where did I make a mistake ?

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I was told that if its sqrt I should write + in the whole row

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bc sqrt is always positive

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and then it would be actually something that looks like a answer

delicate night
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Not sure what you're doing there.
We have (x^2 - 3x + 2)/(x - 2) = x - 1 for x ≠ 2. So:

  • for x > 2
  • for 1 < x < 2
    - for x < 1
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Which is as expected.

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Clearly, the root can't be negative.

brittle python
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aa wtf am I doing

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here

delicate night
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Abandon the root. It doesn't need to be there.

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Method of intervals applies to rational functions.

brittle python
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in this case it looks like it is correct

delicate night
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Let me show how you need to do this.

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I would analyze the function like this.

brittle python
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thank you so much , bdw I found out for my method you do just add + to the end for sqrt's but this method seems like a horrible way to continue so when I have time I will def learn your way to solve this

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its just that I was thought this way and now I have forget that XD