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neon quest
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F(0)=0
xcos(1/x) when x=\0
Check differential at x=0

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neon quest
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So here i did this

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hcos(1/h)/h

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cos(1/h)=cos(-1/h)

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And both are equal

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So it will be differentiable at x=0

fathom forge
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Omegabet_

fathom forge
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idk where the evenness came up

neon quest
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,w sin (1/x) tends to 0

fathom forge
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sin(1/x) also is DNE as x goes to 0...

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fathom forge
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obvious from the fact cos(t) as t goes to +-inf DNE

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But anyway, like the question says you just check 1st principles and whether that holds or not at 0

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hence checking whether $\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{h\cos(1/h)-0}{h}=\lim_{h\to 0}\cos(1/h)$ exists.

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Omegabet_

neon quest
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Then it is differentiable

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Because cos can handle negative inside

fathom forge
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????

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what are you even saying lol

fathom forge
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Omegabet_

fathom forge
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Not... its domain can have negative numbers

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xcos(1/x) is differenatiable at 0 iff the limit as h goes to 0 of cos(1/h) exists.

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Said limit clearly DNE, so xcos(1/x) is clearly not differentiable at 0.

neon quest
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hcos(1/h) it will be like h[-1 1] =0

-hcos(-1/h) h[-1 1]=0

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So limit will exist

fathom forge
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Ok, let's try it this way

neon quest
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And f'(0)=hcos(1/h)-0/h
cos (1/h) and cos(-1/h) will be same

fathom forge
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what's $\lim_{x\to\infty}\cos(x)$?

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Omegabet_

neon quest
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So differentiable

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DNE

fathom forge
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and $\lim_{x\to-\infty}\cos(x)$?

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Omegabet_

neon quest
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DNE

fathom forge
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So now set $x:=1/h$ in $\lim_{h\to 0}\cos(1/h)$, what does that sub do?

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Omegabet_

neon quest
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Ahh it will be DNE surely

fathom forge
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yes, you get $\lim_{h\to 0}\cos(1/h)=\lim_{x\to\pm\infty}\cos(x)$

neon quest
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But it is between [-1 1] oscillation

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Omegabet_

fathom forge
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yeah, and?

neon quest
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Ohh so limit exist but differntiation no

fathom forge
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limit.... clearly DNE

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as you just said

fathom forge
neon quest
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No no

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It is xcos(1/x)

fathom forge
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Ok, try reading this time

neon quest
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Sure

fathom forge
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read this

neon quest
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Yes true statement

fathom forge
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applying that to $f(x)=x\cos(1/x)$ and $a=0$... you want to check whether $\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{h\cos(1/h)-0}{h}$ exists

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Omegabet_

fathom forge
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that limit is clearly, from day 1 algebra, equal to $\lim_{h\to 0}\cos(1/h)$

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Omegabet_

fathom forge
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so xcos(1/x) is differentiable at 0 iff the limit as h goes to 0 of cos(1/h) exists.

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per the literal definition verbatim

neon quest
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I am saying the limit x=0 exist for the function but differential no

fathom forge
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LEARN TO READ, THE LIMIT DNE AS YOU YOURSELF SAID

neon quest
fathom forge
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yes

neon quest
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Limit for limit exist

fathom forge
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"limit for limit" is nonsense

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but checking continuity wasnt the question so idk why you care

neon quest
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Limit h tends to 0+

h×[-1 1] =0
Limit h tends to 0-
-h×[-1 1] =0
So the limit at x=0 exist

fathom forge
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yeah that means nothing

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you've just said symbols

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with no meaning

neon quest
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I don't know in our exams we first check the limit exists or not

fathom forge
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yes, you're checking whether the 1st principles limit exists....

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cause that's the question

neon quest
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Yes.

fathom forge
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If you opted to attempt a question you never read, then I wish you luck cause your brain is backwards lol

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But at this rate you're just trolling and seems like you're purposefully being daft

neon quest
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What?? I am just explaining simply

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As I have taught

fathom forge
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You're talking about something irrelevant to the question

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but anyway, the question has been answered

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feel free to close the channel.

neon quest
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I mean people said first check limit at x=0 exists or not then check differentiation

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Yes the question is solved. I am happy to learn from you. I am not trolling but. Sorry if I sound like that

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.close

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,close

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I don't know how to close it

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Let me ask someone

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+close