#Feynman's Integration Technique

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uneven jettyBOT
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AstroVortex

visual tusk
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Please help me!

low dirge
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Let $I(t) = \int_0^{∞} \frac{\sin tx}{x} dx$

uneven jettyBOT
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(xy)²=(yz)²=(xz)²=xyyzxz=-1

low dirge
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from Leibniz rule
$I'(t) = \dv{t} \int_0^{∞} \frac{\sin tx}{x} dx = \int_0^{∞} \pdv {t} \frac{\sin tx}{x} dx$

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Liebniz rule is the same as Feynman's technique

uneven jettyBOT
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(xy)²=(yz)²=(xz)²=xyyzxz=-1

low dirge
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$= \int_0^{∞} \frac{x\sin tx}{x} dx$ (view x as a constant)

uneven jettyBOT
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(xy)²=(yz)²=(xz)²=xyyzxz=-1

low dirge
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@visual tusk

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i think you can continue from here

visual tusk
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Well I have never heard of the Leibniz rule before

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uneven jettyBOT
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AstroVortex

visual tusk
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from the chain rule

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low dirge
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yeah

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i forgot to change language

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oops

low dirge
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you should call it liebniz rule tho

low dirge
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not the function itself

visual tusk
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oh yes yes

visual tusk
low dirge
pale kite
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Multiply integrand by e⁻ᵃˣ then perform two integrations by parts

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worldly wolf
visual tusk
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okay

worldly wolf
uneven jettyBOT
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apex predator

visual tusk
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hmmmmmmmm

uneven jettyBOT
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apex predator

uneven jettyBOT
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worldly wolf
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differentiating that is a little less simple than e^-xt but it works I reckon

low dirge
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i see

worldly wolf
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nevermind it won't

low dirge
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skull

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uneven jettyBOT
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apex predator

worldly wolf
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so it won't work

low dirge
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i see

uneven jettyBOT
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apex predator

visual tusk
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Will take me time to digest

worldly wolf
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the most difficult part to wrap your head around the first time is finding your C, in my opinion

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I should add that the integral only works because t≥0

visual tusk
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It will take some rigorous penance!

pale kite
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Instead of integrating by parts, one can also see -sin x as the imaginary part of e⁻ⁱˣ

visual tusk
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Hmmm

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Oh well

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We can write sin x as -i sinh(ix)???

low dirge
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i sinx = sinh ix

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visual tusk
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Nahh

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It's - I sinh(ix)

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,w graph sin x

uneven jettyBOT
visual tusk
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,w graph sinh(ix)

uneven jettyBOT
visual tusk
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,w graph -i sinh(ix)

low dirge
uneven jettyBOT
visual tusk
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My bad

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I read it wrong

low dirge
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skull

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it's ok

visual tusk
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Skull?

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Ok yes we can use this complex thing

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visual tusk
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But the real thing is

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I still didn't learn Feynman technique 😢

low dirge
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it's hard ik

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you need to look at other examples too

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not just this one

visual tusk
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Or maybe I'm a bit too dumb 😭

low dirge
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you aren't bro

visual tusk
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Ok lemme look up for another eg.

low dirge
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you're good at your age

visual tusk
olive ploverBOT
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@broken osprey has given 1 rep to @low dirge

visual tusk
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Hey I can't find it

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Do you know any other examples?

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Ohhh

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Found it

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$\int_{0}^{\infty}e^{-x²}\cos{5x}dx$

uneven jettyBOT
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AstroVortex

visual tusk
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From bprp

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And yes, I didn't understand what he said in the video

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Can you help me @low dirge ?

low dirge
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i dont think i can
this topic is way beyond my knowledge rn

visual tusk
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oh

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maybe @worldly wolf ?

uneven jettyBOT
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apex predator

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apex predator

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apex predator

worldly wolf
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@visual tusk

worldly wolf
uneven jettyBOT
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worldly wolf
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that term you can see goes to 0 on both 0 and infinity

uneven jettyBOT
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apex predator

worldly wolf
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to find your C you can set your t to 0 and that leaves the Gaussian integral from 0 to infinity

uneven jettyBOT
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apex predator

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pale kite
worldly wolf
visual tusk
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Nah I am good with complex numbers but I am trying to learn this method

visual tusk
visual tusk
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Please enlighten me

worldly wolf
worldly wolf
visual tusk
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What time is it in your country rn?

worldly wolf
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7

visual tusk
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My brain is getting fried

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So can you explain me tomorrow? Pleaseee

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Ig ill be able to grasp better when I wake up

worldly wolf
visual tusk
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thank you!

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And sorry ik you haven't seen someone as irritating as me

worldly wolf
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you have your xe^-x²cos(tx) and you integrate by parts with xe^-x² as what you're integrating and cos(tx) as what you're differentiating

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@visual tusk

uneven jettyBOT
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apex predator

worldly wolf
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and that other part

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you can see that's the integral you started with bar some t

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so you can replace that with just I(t) and solve the differential equation

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@visual tusk I'd really prefer to finish today

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if possible

visual tusk
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You know any tricks to freshen my mind in 5 mins?

visual tusk
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oh sorry you're doing IBP

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uneven jettyBOT
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AstroVortex

visual tusk
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correct??

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@worldly wolf

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@visual tusk

visual tusk
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ok so we have fount I(t)

worldly wolf
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now you look to what you started with and you see that t=5 for that integral

visual tusk
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we have to solve dI/dt = -t/2 I

worldly wolf
visual tusk
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Lemme see

uneven jettyBOT
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apex predator

visual tusk
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hm yea

worldly wolf
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which is a separable differential equation

visual tusk
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hmmmmmm

uneven jettyBOT
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apex predator

worldly wolf
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integrate both sides

uneven jettyBOT
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apex predator

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visual tusk
uneven jettyBOT
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AstroVortex

worldly wolf
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-25/4

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and it's over 2

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not 4

visual tusk
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sorry typo

worldly wolf
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but yes that's your integral

visual tusk
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broken latex

worldly wolf
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wh

uneven jettyBOT
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apex predator

worldly wolf
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I hate when I make a mistake with placement of curly brackets

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pain to read back through

visual tusk
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i can feel your pain

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anyways this is the answer right?

worldly wolf
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yup

visual tusk
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ah!

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thanks @worldly wolf !

olive ploverBOT
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@broken osprey has given 1 rep to @worldly wolf

visual tusk
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Ill read the chats again

worldly wolf
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ok

visual tusk
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mb then itll be crystal clear

worldly wolf
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alright

visual tusk
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and yeah thanks @low dirge your effort was admirable

olive ploverBOT
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uneven jettyBOT
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apex predator

visual tusk
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huh? noice!!!!!!!!

worldly wolf
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you may see it again? although it's very specific

visual tusk
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Yes of

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ofc*

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but imma sleep now

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its mn at my place

uneven jettyBOT
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apex predator

visual tusk
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hmmm

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btw are you Nepalese?

worldly wolf
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no, why?

visual tusk
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I was checking ChatGPT's accuracy

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then which country?

worldly wolf
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what??

worldly wolf
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how

visual tusk
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oh leave it

worldly wolf
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I'm curious now

visual tusk
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I'll tell you some other day

visual tusk
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so you told me its 7 pm right?

worldly wolf
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ah

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it's 8pm now

visual tusk
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yeah so I told chatgpt that at my place its mn

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and your time

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so I asked for the timezone

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in whcih you live

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but it was inaccurate lol

worldly wolf
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yeah I'm English, it's way off

visual tusk
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USA?

worldly wolf
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England

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UK

visual tusk
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ohhh

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niice

worldly wolf
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good luck with your Feynman's trick

visual tusk
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thanks I really need it!

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ok now its time for me to sleep

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byee

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gn

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and pleasee dont close this thread