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The answer is not a single number
For example, $(a,b,c)$ might be $(1,0,0)$, and $ab+bc+ca = 0$. If $(a,b,c) = (\frac 1 {\sqrt 3},\frac 1 {\sqrt 3},\frac 1 {\sqrt 3)}$ then, $ab+bc+ca$ becomes $1$ instead
k12byda5h
all we can pull outta this alone is $\sqrt{1+2(ab+bc+ca)} = a+b+c$
there are infinite values to $a+b+c$ so infinite values to $ab+bc+ca$
yoavmal isobar
hmmm
let's take ab+bc+ca as x here
now, u know $(a+b+c)^2 = a^2 + b^2 + c^2+ 2ab + 2bc + 2ca$
No Lifer?
$(a+b+c)^2 = 1 + 2x$
No Lifer?
$a + b + c = \sqrt{1+2x}$
No Lifer?
hmmm
hey wait...
bruh
Alr @snow forge here's a step by step solution
This requires the AM GM inequality, so if you aren't familiar with that I suggest you go search it up
@old crystal brother, AM GM inequality cannot do this, it literally has infinite values
as we know:
$(a+b+c)^2=a^2+b^2+c^2+2ab+2bc+2ca$
and $(a+b+c)^2 \geq 0$ for any real a,b,c
Now, it's given that $a^2 + b^2 + c^2 = 1$
So, $1 + 2ab + 2bc + 2ca \geq 0$
$ab + bc + ca \geq \frac{-1}{2}$
Now, AM GM inequality states that
$a+b \geq 2\sqrt{ab}$
lets just plug in $a = a^2, b = b^2 ; a = b^2, b = c^2 ; a = c^2, b = a^2$ to get 3 vital equations:
$a^2 + b^2 \geq 2ab$
$b^2 + c^2 \geq 2bc$
$c^2 + a^2 \geq 2ca$
adding these things, we get:
$a^2 + b^2 + c^2 \geq ab + bc + ca$
$1 \geq ab + bc + ca$
we also have $ab+bc+ca \geq \frac{-1}{2}$
So:
$ab+bc+ca \in [\frac{-1}{2},1]$
The above result is all the possible values of ab+bc+ca
Hope this helps!
@snow forge
No Lifer?
can we also do it using GM>= HM?
I encourage you to try, but I feel like AM GM is simpler
It could work though!
If it works, post your solution here and ping the OP
okay thanks!
he has = sign, this still doesnt solve it, but its all u can get
because its unsolvable
yeah
It does help to decrease it to a range of values though