#how to solve by combination?

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brisk comet
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I am not allowed to solve by substitution, just by combination how do i do that?

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upper lily
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maybe by elimination?

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feel like you can manipulate them so some stuff cancels out

brisk comet
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wdym?

upper lily
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like have you seen
y+x=5
3y+x=10
subtracting you get -2y=-5

hallow dust
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the second equation is just (x+y)/2-3(x-y)/5=1 so set both equations equal to each other (since they are both equal to 1)

hallow dust
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after expanding our a bunch and collecting like terms, youll arrive at a wuadratic equation you can solve, or an equation for a circle..

brisk comet
upper lily
brisk comet
upper lily
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that’s just a random example unrelated to your question

brisk comet
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oh

upper lily
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used it to show what elimination was

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anyways any progress

brisk comet
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yea i need to do it by elimination

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thats what I meant, sorry my maths is in french and idk the english terms

brisk comet
brisk comet
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tried this but still looks sketchy

upper lily
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hmm still don’t see a way tho

bronze pebble
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Notice that 2 and 5 are of a different parity, but for integers x and y then x+y and x-y are always of the same parity. This means (along with the fact that 3 doesn't divide 5) that (x+y)/2 and 3(x-y)/5 cannot both be whole numbers for integers x and y, unless one of x+y or x-y is 0.

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If you let x+y = 0, then the second equation cannot be solved in integers. So you should let x-y = 0.

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This gives x=y=1 which also satisfies the first equation

hallow dust
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There are probably more solutions tho

bronze pebble
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yes

hallow dust
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,w (2+31)^2-21*(21+1)-31*(41+31-1)

hallow dust
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Yeah one if yours

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And the other uhmm

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Oh the other is uglier

bronze pebble
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$$\frac{x+y}2-\frac{3(x-y)}5-1=0\implies 10 = -x + 11y$$ but idk how to implement this without substitution