#linear algebra

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How to solve this question?

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warm dome
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There's any constant on this type of equation, it can't describe any vector space.

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The only approach I imagine is to prove you can't distribute scalar multiplication to a vector addition.

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In other words, show that $\forall u,v \in E, \forall a \in \mathbb{R}, a(u+v) \neq au + av$ (if k is a constant $\neq 0$)

lilac yarrowBOT
shut fog
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I didn't understand it

warm dome
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Okay, if E is a vector space, so $\forall u,v \in E$, I can multiply those vectors $u$ and $v$ by a scalar $a$ such that $a*(u+v) = au + av$

lilac yarrowBOT
shut fog
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Yes. Of course we can

warm dome
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But if $k \neq 0$, you can't

lilac yarrowBOT
shut fog
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I guess we can

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When k isn't equal to 0

warm dome
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Try it, and tell me if the result is again in the vector space

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Even if you calculate $a*v, a \in \mathbb{R}$ and $v \in E$

lilac yarrowBOT
warm dome
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You'll that a*v is no longer in E, so E isn't a vector space

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It's a linearity problem

lavish gust
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the 0 vector has to be in the space

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so plugging in (0,0,0) must satisfy the equation, hence k=0

shut fog
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Yes it will satisfy but I am confused what should we do with the equation?

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2x1-x2+3x3=k

lavish gust
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the vector space is all vectors (x1,x2,x3) that satisfy that equation

warm dome
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Find what the vectors from E are

lavish gust
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for that set to be a vector space, 0 must be a solution to that equation, hence k=0

shut fog
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I guess i have to need more readings

lavish gust
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or read the question

shut fog
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So here we are finding any value which satisfy the equation?

lavish gust
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read the question...

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"Let W be (this set). If W is to be made into a vector space, what must k be?"

shut fog
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(0,1,1)

lavish gust
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17

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I can say random stuff too

lavish gust
shut fog
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X1,x2,x3

lavish gust
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Ill ask again

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what does (0,1,1) have to do with anything the question is asking?

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look up the axioms of being a vector space.

shut fog
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It satisfies the equation

lavish gust
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it doesnt unless k is 2

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If $W$ is a vector space, then $0\in W$, so $(0,0,0)$ must, by the definition of $W$, satisfy $2(0)-0+3(0)=k$

lilac yarrowBOT
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Omegabet_

lavish gust
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hence k must be 0.

shut fog
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You are right

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It must satisfy other properties

lavish gust
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yes, like being closed under + as was initially pointed out

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which, if you do the algebra, tells you 2k=k so k=0.

shut fog
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How you got 2k?

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@lavish gust

lavish gust
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if $x,y\in W$, then $x+y\in W$, so $2(x_1+y_1)-(x_2+y_2)+3(x_3+y_3)=k\to (2x_1-x_2+3x_3)+(2y_1-y_2+3y_3)=k\to k+k=k$

lilac yarrowBOT
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Omegabet_

shut fog
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Wow. Nice explanation tq so much