#How can I prove that?

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DarkBlood

limber mauve
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Well, it's not.

graceful galleon
limber mauve
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Like, why would you even think it is? The two sides of the equation don't even have the same domain.

graceful galleon
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Yes but idk i was solving some problem and fund this

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I thought it was weird too

limber mauve
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What problem were you solving?

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Because, like, -1/sqrt(1 - x^2) is the derivative of arccos(x), but the right side of that equation isn't a derivative. It's not even a limit.

graceful galleon
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Yes, i was trying to prove that the arccos function had a central symetry (ofc he has) so ther's my beginning of answer

limber mauve
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By "central symmetry", I assume you're talking about the rotational symmetry about its midpoint?

graceful galleon
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yes

limber mauve
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Well, the derivative is part of that, because you need to know whether the function is increasing or decreasing on its domain.

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The derivative is negative on the domain, so it's decreasing.

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Which means that what you want to prove is arccos(0 - x) - arccos(0) = arccos(0) - arccos(0 + x).

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For all x.

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...in [-1, 1].

graceful galleon
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And how do I prove that?

limber mauve
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Well, doing the algebra, it boils down to arccos(-x) + arccos(x) = pi.

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So then arccos(x) = pi - arccos(-x), which means x = cos(pi - arccos(-x)) = sin(arccos(-x)), and just... y'know, solve that algebraically I guess?

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Geometricallly, I mean.

graceful galleon
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Well I think no

limber mauve
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To be perfectly honest, I'm kinda half paying attention. I haven't been sleeping great.

graceful galleon
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Oh go to sleep then

limber mauve
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No, I woke up already today.

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Anyway.

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The, like, core point I was making is that what you want to prove is that if you go right from the center by x units, the graph goes down by the same amount that it goes up if you go left from the center x units.

graceful galleon
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Oh I see that

limber mauve
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Like, if you let f(x) = arccos(x) - arccos(0), you want to prove f is odd.

graceful galleon
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so arccos(-x) -arccos(0)= -arccos(x)-arccos(0)

limber mauve
graceful galleon
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Shit

limber mauve
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...wait, I see where I made a mistake.

graceful galleon
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arccos 0 is pi/2 so arccos(-x) -pi/2= -arccos(x)-pi/2

limber mauve
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It's what I said from the beginning. arccos(-x) - pi/2 = pi/2 - arccos(x).

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You're not distributing the negative.

graceful galleon
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Oh okay

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I see where it's going but don't see the way

limber mauve
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Well, it's like I said, arccos(x) + arccos(-x) = pi.

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I made a mistake when I said cos(pi - arccos(-x)) = sin(arccos(-x)), because I was confusing pi with pi/2.

graceful galleon
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With that, how can i prove there's a rotational symetry

limber mauve
graceful galleon
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Okay, thank you very much !

limber mauve
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Do you... know what to do from here?